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Topic: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) - page 111. (Read 262908 times)

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Love your posts...But I've been getting my dd payout every day and it is the right amount...they even sent me 2dd payouts I didn't the first couple days it went live...8 more days and I'm fully roi'd Grin good luck to you

Tip though...just iggy bitgeek it's easy that way...he listens to no one if they bad talk gaw

How many mhs do you have?  Are they purchased direct from GAW or were they converted from zencloud hosted machines?

EDIT:

Based on crashoveride5492's post, I went back to examine my history.  Here is the activity record for one of my converted miners (now a prime hashlet) with 2 pools from yesterday to this morning:

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October 1, 2014

Zeus Hurricane X6

ZenPool: 0.00665327 BTC after pool fees (if applicable)

LTC Pool: 0.00169153 BTC after pool fees (if applicable)


Interestingly, LTC Pool and ZenPool have about equal performance yesterday according to the Rates table that GAW publishes:

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LTC Pool   0.00060319 BTC
ZenPool   0.00060319 BTC

So why is the LTC Pool payout for 12 hours lower than 50% of the LTC Pool payout rate shown by GAW?  It should be close to .003 even accounting for pool fees but instead is almost half that.

I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
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Dream become broken often
Just FYI to those thinking about buying hashlets, my approximately 300 mhs in prime hashlets have been up for sale ever since GAW announced they could be sold.  I also have had 4 Th/s of genesis sha hashlets up for sale.

1) Only 1 very small genesis hashlet sold despite GAW's propoganda that most have been bought back/sold through their scammy setup

2) Primes are still banned from direct p2p sale, and the "buyback" obviously doesn't work

3) There is literally no way to get out once you are in (at least for prime hashlets).

4) I have had several offers at the $25-26 per mhs price for primes.  This shows that there IS a market, and that the price (25-26) is much lower than what GAW would want to see.  If you cannot figure out why GAW is banning sales of primes then you are not very smart.

5) The new games GAW has put in place just do not work.  I have tried to use the "double dip" on all my hashlets that were not for sale, but may daily payout has been constant (within 5%).  Same thing for boosting.  It does not matter much to the end number.  I did get a double dip ONE DAY out of the past week or so since the double dip system was put in place but not since then.  It seems a lot more like GAW every once in a while drops in a few extra mBTC just to make it look like it is working (kind of like Pavlov's experiment which showed that random infrequent rewards worked, it seems GAW follows the same model).

6) Payouts on the zenpool in the early days were indeed 200% of the best multipool.  Since then they have steadily dropped to now, where zenpool and LTCpool are almost always neck and neck - surprisingly so.  It seems GAW realized that by giving 200% returns they were sending up red flags so they ratcheted it down and now have the lottery type games instead.

The whole thing stinks of scam so badly that I cannot believe GAW will exist much longer.  Anyone putting money into them now (esp at $49 per mhs) is worse than a fool, but I appreciate it because only with new fools will us old fools get our money out.

Hopefully the ponzi scheme will continue long enough for me to at least break even.   

Love your posts...But I've been getting my dd payout every day and it is the right amount...they even sent me 2dd payouts I didn't the first couple days it went live...8 more days and I'm fully roi'd Grin good luck to you

Tip though...just iggy bitgeek it's easy that way...he listens to no one if they bad talk gaw
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1) Only 1 very small genesis hashlet sold despite GAW's propoganda that most have been bought back/sold through their scammy setup

Most cloud mining providers don't allow you to sell your shares. You have this opportunity and still whine because nobody bought from you  Undecided
Put something on the market and blame the market owner for lack of sales.
You just can't satisfy some people...

You may not have the capacity to understand since you clearly failed to read or understand anything I have posted, but I will explain anyway for the benefit of those with an IQ above 10.

1) GAW promised the ability to resell.  That was a key part of the pitch to those of us who invested early.  I would not have invested a single satoshi if that promise had not been made.  It doesn't matter what others do or do not do.. I made this investment on a specific promise that has not been kept.

2) I do NOT have the opportunity to sell because GAW BANNED ALL PRIME SALES.  They do not alllow primes to be posted on the "market" NOR do they allow users to transfer in private transactions.  Their reasons for this are complete BS - Josh and Eric claimed last night it had to do with database profile matching problems created when users merged hashlets.  But my hashlets for sale were never merged.  Also, why allow ALL other hashlet types to sell on the market but only ban Primes?  

3) In case the above is not clear, I WANT a market so I can SELL and get the hell out of this scam.  I will sell at whatever I can get from the market.  Right now, there is NO MARKET, and NO WAY TO SELL primes at any price.  Period. 

I will be satisfied when GAW meets its commitments and/or Josh/Eric etc. are jailed.
sr. member
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1) Only 1 very small genesis hashlet sold despite GAW's propoganda that most have been bought back/sold through their scammy setup

Most cloud mining providers don't allow you to sell your shares. You have this opportunity and still whine because nobody bought from you  Undecided
Put something on the market and blame the market owner for lack of sales.
You just can't satisfy some people...
hero member
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Merit: 502
Finally mods doing something useful:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/8840/current-known-issues

Hopefully this will be kept up to date. I'm getting tired of being a beta tester and then wading through hashtalk to see if the issues are known, being fixed, etc.

Here is another source for latest status updates:

http://hashlets.info/

Meanwhile back on hashtalk apparently the faithful are growing restless and consider the CEO not posting for a few hours as being abandoned Smiley

https://hashtalk.org/topic/9438/my-theory-on-prime-buy-back-delays-and-functionality
https://hashtalk.org/topic/9429/monday-s-guaranteed-buyback

Great info. Saving much time
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 254
Just FYI to those thinking about buying hashlets, my approximately 300 mhs in prime hashlets have been up for sale ever since GAW announced they could be sold.  I also have had 4 Th/s of genesis sha hashlets up for sale.

1) Only 1 very small genesis hashlet sold despite GAW's propoganda that most have been bought back/sold through their scammy setup

2) Primes are still banned from direct p2p sale, and the "buyback" obviously doesn't work

3) There is literally no way to get out once you are in (at least for prime hashlets).

4) I have had several offers at the $25-26 per mhs price for primes.  This shows that there IS a market, and that the price (25-26) is much lower than what GAW would want to see.  If you cannot figure out why GAW is banning sales of primes then you are not very smart.

5) The new games GAW has put in place just do not work.  I have tried to use the "double dip" on all my hashlets that were not for sale, but may daily payout has been constant (within 5%).  Same thing for boosting.  It does not matter much to the end number.  I did get a double dip ONE DAY out of the past week or so since the double dip system was put in place but not since then.  It seems a lot more like GAW every once in a while drops in a few extra mBTC just to make it look like it is working (kind of like Pavlov's experiment which showed that random infrequent rewards worked, it seems GAW follows the same model).

6) Payouts on the zenpool in the early days were indeed 200% of the best multipool.  Since then they have steadily dropped to now, where zenpool and LTCpool are almost always neck and neck - surprisingly so.  It seems GAW realized that by giving 200% returns they were sending up red flags so they ratcheted it down and now have the lottery type games instead.

The whole thing stinks of scam so badly that I cannot believe GAW will exist much longer.  Anyone putting money into them now (esp at $49 per mhs) is worse than a fool, but I appreciate it because only with new fools will us old fools get our money out.

Hopefully the ponzi scheme will continue long enough for me to at least break even.   
sr. member
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Seriously though, the forum is the only place where all the announcements and updates are posted (I don't think they even bother to send e-mails, at least I haven't received anything from GAW except ads), but it's a real PITA to navigate let alone find anything there. It's good to see someone making an effort to organize the important bits.
I rarely see any emails from them regarding updates.

The most recent was the Hashlet store update thing, and the email came out a day after the announcement, with a link to the forum post.
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down...lool

https://hashtalk.org/


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The GAW cult will be bereft.
legendary
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you can get it here.

https://nodebb.org/

https://community.nodebb.org/

seems strangely familiar.


Yup, definitely looks like nodebb. I wasn't aware.
sr. member
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For me haslet is a good one that can help to anyone,
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Hashtalk feels a bit overwhelming with the number of posts people write every minute, but the search function is much better than what we have here on bitcointalk.

The hastalk is a big fu**ing bug.

We've gotta admit, that hashtalk is a nicely designed forum. Maybe it's not flawless, but gosh! this forum has the slickest look I've even seen. I was surprised at how it seemed that hashtalk came out of nowhere because clearly, there was some work put into it's making.  

you can get it here.

https://nodebb.org/

https://community.nodebb.org/

seems strangely familiar.
sr. member
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How is LTCgear better? I see everything on the site that was affordable sold out...

Somebody show me how it's better?

Zeushash is still in closed beta so it ain't better yet. Genesis mining might be better...



Things go from sold out to in stock within 24 hours. If you buy one of the decent packages with the promo code, then you are getting a considerably better return than a GAW zenpool hashlet.

Thanks I will look into it. I got some genesis and some gaw hashlets. They are both doing good. But I wish I would have gotten lots of hashlets primes when they were $17....the double pooling is working perfect for me....
sr. member
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How is LTCgear better? I see everything on the site that was affordable sold out...

Somebody show me how it's better?

Zeushash is still in closed beta so it ain't better yet. Genesis mining might be better...



Because you can buy LTCGear Asic shares.. $5/mh off of people like me. lol

$5 per 10 gh/s? Well now you are talking but the bitmain cloud mining is almost the same price. Why am I gonna buy from you? I don't know you...lol!

LTCgear is good if it was available from the company...all sold out...but I have not checked it today...
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It's making shadowban, post delete, and 20-30 times a day - 504 error
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Hashtalk feels a bit overwhelming with the number of posts people write every minute, but the search function is much better than what we have here on bitcointalk.

The hastalk is a big fu**ing bug.

We've gotta admit, that hashtalk is a nicely designed forum. Maybe it's not flawless, but gosh! this forum has the slickest look I've even seen. I was surprised at how it seemed that hashtalk came out of nowhere because clearly, there was some work put into it's making. 
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 1002
Hashtalk feels a bit overwhelming with the number of posts people write every minute, but the search function is much better than what we have here on bitcointalk.

The hastalk is a big fu**ing bug.
legendary
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https://bpip.org
https://hashtalk.org/topic/9484/live-video-call

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GAW_CEO
Global Moderator
Industry Innovator

Live video call

Hello, I will be doing a live video call latter today to answer any questions you guys have directly.

I think it’s the best way to get everything answered at one time :grinning:

Stay tuned for official announcement

I could make a sarcastic comment along the lines "let's make our communication accessible to an even smaller subset of our customers", but I won't  Grin
legendary
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https://bpip.org
Funny to see someone created an entire website so users can catch up with what's going on in a forum...

I know, it's inconceivable that someone would want to bypass the friendly HT community and go to a third-party site for information instead of trawling (or trolling?) the forum.

Seriously though, the forum is the only place where all the announcements and updates are posted (I don't think they even bother to send e-mails, at least I haven't received anything from GAW except ads), but it's a real PITA to navigate let alone find anything there. It's good to see someone making an effort to organize the important bits.
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