GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) - page 46.

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Quote from: SDRebel on November 01, 2014, 07:48:59 PM

Josh himself has banned dozens if not over a hundred people. A lot of them simply because asked questions uncomfortable for him. He has contradicted himself too many times. Then there's the vault breakers, etc...there's like 150 red flags...if you don't see them it's because you close your eyes

I'm one of them, I've always been constructive and respectful but somehow got banned in a cowardly fashion (without notice) in a way where I wouldn't even know I was banned.

Since the ban I have dumped 100% of what I had left with them and won't be going back.

Time may prove that I made a bad decision but I won't regret it in any way, I can't stand behind such behavior.

EDIT: It wasn't a down vote ban, I got confirmation that I got admin squashed, look up the list of admins on HT, you'll notice that there's only 2 or three of them that are active.. and only 1 of them that doesn't have to answer to anyone or doesn't have to document anything.

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Quote from: SDRebel on November 01, 2014, 07:41:27 PM

Quote from: welchy8764 on November 01, 2014, 07:31:02 PM

Now apparently GAW will be releasing a new hashlet solo to mine the new coin(What ever it may be called).. It was to be prime only and now they are going to selling a solo for the new coin? WTF , Isn't that why GAW bought back primes a few weeks ago. I will press him on this until I get banned with my new account.. LOL Shocked

You know he contradicts himself all the time

Oh FFS, this is becoming more and more blatant price manipulation. Maybe the "day trading" revenue that was claimed to be one of the sources of income for ZenPool is actually day trading Primes on the Market and/or skimming the 10% on panic-induced volume. How else can you explain letting them slide to $30 then hype them as "the only" miners for HashCoin back up to ~$50, and now what? Back to $30? Then bring in unicorns and rainbows again. Magic Money Making Machine.

Yeah, I'm still waiting for my DD to finish so that I could offload them, so a bit cranky for that reason.

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Quote from: chmick on November 01, 2014, 06:46:53 PM

I have a s trange feeling about this :

I don't kow if gaw is a complete scam or if it's a good idea but with people not so good at project design.

I tell this because so far the criticism I see on this forum are posted by a lot of newbie profile, and because it remind me a lot of what people said about pbmining (at the end pbmining was good)
The zenpool had problems but it's more technical than financial for the moment .

Some try also to push to other investment plans. (and since the amount of investors is limited, it's better if you can kill competition)

On the other hand , some are tring to push the crowd to sell their primes , but the price is not collapsing like if somebody waited to buy all the primes at low cost .

Due to all this , for the moment i will keep the primes i have left

ajw7989

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I bought hashlets back when there was just hashlets and then these became primes. I just sold the last of my prime hashlets today. GAW contradicts himself too much and makes ALOT of announcements to hype people up that never come true. You can not compare pbmining to GAW. The reason I actually prefer pbmining over GAW although they are not as transparent is the fact that you know what you are getting. Pbmining gives 5 year mining contracts paid every sunday (I was with them since January as well). GAW was originally into cloud mining and came up with a lot of innovative ideas which most never came into effect. Hashpoints were suppose to be reward points but now they are going away and over at hashtalk they said they are not going to be selling anymore hashlets for a while on zencloud. Essentially this means I can either expect payouts in dust or get hashpoints which can not be spent yet. This reminds of the good old preorder mining hardware days and that is why I sold out. Too many questions and plans with hashlets keep changing on top of crazy software bugs every other day.

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well my advice to who bought prime at 40 dollars or more those who didnt ROI yet have two ways

try to sell it before any new coin or improvement

or keep it and wait to see the new coin as the new value of primes...

as all know these will be the only way to mine the new coin soo people will be forced to buy prime (atleast i supose this is the plan no hardware mining ,instead those as bitcoin made it to sha ,here they wanna control it soo have to control the cloud hardware they renting selling...)
as they released around 0.5phs at primes i suppose these is the power that us comunitty stand and have not sure i didnt read just guessing it,soo with 5 phs they bought they will be able to rent or to sell more cloud hardware soo we will stand with around 2.5phs half of the income that will be mining daily....only guess but this can become real in the meantime

i will stand even with those fucking balance raising droping all days i will left those miners i have mining on the new year i will see what to do before that i will wait those news to come alive Grin

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Quote from: welchy8764 on November 01, 2014, 07:31:02 PM

Now apparently GAW will be releasing a new hashlet solo to mine the new coin(What ever it may be called).. It was to be prime only and now they are going to selling a solo for the new coin? WTF , Isn't that why GAW bought back primes a few weeks ago. I will press him on this until I get banned with my new account.. LOL Shocked

SDRebel

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Quote from: chmick on November 01, 2014, 06:46:53 PM

I have a s trange feeling about this :

I don't kow if gaw is a complete scam or if it's a good idea but with people not so good at project design.

I tell this because so far the criticism I see on this forum are posted by a lot of newbie profile, and because it remind me a lot of what people said about pbmining (at the end pbmining was good)
The zenpool had problems but it's more technical than financial for the moment .

Some try also to push to other investment plans. (and since the amount of investors is limited, it's better if you can kill competition)

On the other hand , some are tring to push the crowd to sell their primes , but the price is not collapsing like if somebody waited to buy all the primes at low cost .

Due to all this , for the moment i will keep the primes i have left

SDRebel

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Quote from: welchy8764 on November 01, 2014, 07:31:02 PM

Now apparently GAW will be releasing a new hashlet solo to mine the new coin(What ever it may be called).. It was to be prime only and now they are going to selling a solo for the new coin? WTF , Isn't that why GAW bought back primes a few weeks ago. I will press him on this until I get banned with my new account.. LOL Shocked

Gotta keep the new money coming in to pay for the people already involved. There's a name for this.

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Now apparently GAW will be releasing a new hashlet solo to mine the new coin(What ever it may be called).. It was to be prime only and now they are going to selling a solo for the new coin? WTF , Isn't that why GAW bought back primes a few weeks ago. I will press him on this until I get banned with my new account.. LOL Shocked

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Quote from: MOB on November 01, 2014, 05:09:33 PM

Quote from: bitgeek on November 01, 2014, 03:31:41 PM

Quote from: SDRebel on November 01, 2014, 03:13:14 PM

Quote from: bitgeek on November 01, 2014, 01:39:30 PM

Quote from: SDRebel on November 01, 2014, 01:18:17 PM

There's no negotiations. Zen is not a real pool. Josh arbitrarily decides how much it pays

Any proof of this or bullshit as always?

Josh has said that's not a real pool. Also, zen says its "choose a payout" it doesnt say choose a pool.
Also, it was artificially more than double any multipool. You tell me
There's more evidence of it not being a pool than of it being a pool
Also, in their T&Cs it says that you have a "digital miner" made with software... Does that sound like you have a miner hashing in a unicorn-driven pool?
I can keep going

I asked about the second part where you said Josh decides how much the pool pays. You know it's not like that.

No, not at all like that.

They have an algorithm that they have made public and transparent, or at least a reliable computer that calculates payouts without errors. That's what we all "know it's like," right?

Seriously Bitgeek, how do you still think there is nothing wrong here? Are you hoping to trick others into buying in so you can get out, or what is your angle?

Bingo

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I have a s trange feeling about this :

I don't kow if gaw is a complete scam or if it's a good idea but with people not so good at project design.

I tell this because so far the criticism I see on this forum are posted by a lot of newbie profile, and because it remind me a lot of what people said about pbmining (at the end pbmining was good)
The zenpool had problems but it's more technical than financial for the moment .

Some try also to push to other investment plans. (and since the amount of investors is limited, it's better if you can kill competition)

On the other hand , some are tring to push the crowd to sell their primes , but the price is not collapsing like if somebody waited to buy all the primes at low cost .

Due to all this , for the moment i will keep the primes i have left

Oldminer

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Wow, people still involved in this silly mess.

SDRebel

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Quote from: iawa on November 01, 2014, 02:07:09 PM

Quote from: bitgeek on November 01, 2014, 01:39:30 PM

Quote from: SDRebel on November 01, 2014, 01:18:17 PM

There's no negotiations. Zen is not a real pool. Josh arbitrarily decides how much it pays

Any proof of this or bullshit as always?

You mean like the proof walmart and amazon are on board?
Actually does josh ever have any proof?

Haha, indeed, he has not provided proof of anything except a few hundred miners

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Quote from: bitgeek on November 01, 2014, 03:31:41 PM

Quote from: SDRebel on November 01, 2014, 03:13:14 PM

Quote from: bitgeek on November 01, 2014, 01:39:30 PM

Quote from: SDRebel on November 01, 2014, 01:18:17 PM

There's no negotiations. Zen is not a real pool. Josh arbitrarily decides how much it pays

Any proof of this or bullshit as always?

Josh has said that's not a real pool. Also, zen says its "choose a payout" it doesnt say choose a pool.
Also, it was artificially more than double any multipool. You tell me
There's more evidence of it not being a pool than of it being a pool
Also, in their T&Cs it says that you have a "digital miner" made with software... Does that sound like you have a miner hashing in a unicorn-driven pool?
I can keep going

I asked about the second part where you said Josh decides how much the pool pays. You know it's not like that.

No, not at all like that.

They have an algorithm that they have made public and transparent, or at least a reliable computer that calculates payouts without errors. That's what we all "know it's like," right?

Seriously Bitgeek, how do you still think there is nothing wrong here? Are you hoping to trick others into buying in so you can get out, or what is your angle?

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Quote from: SDRebel on November 01, 2014, 03:13:14 PM

Quote from: bitgeek on November 01, 2014, 01:39:30 PM

Quote from: SDRebel on November 01, 2014, 01:18:17 PM

There's no negotiations. Zen is not a real pool. Josh arbitrarily decides how much it pays

Any proof of this or bullshit as always?

Josh has said that's not a real pool. Also, zen says its "choose a payout" it doesnt say choose a pool.
Also, it was artificially more than double any multipool. You tell me
There's more evidence of it not being a pool than of it being a pool
Also, in their T&Cs it says that you have a "digital miner" made with software... Does that sound like you have a miner hashing in a unicorn-driven pool?
I can keep going

I asked about the second part where you said Josh decides how much the pool pays. You know it's not like that.

suchmoon

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https://bpip.org

Quote from: klintay on November 01, 2014, 12:59:04 PM

wasn't there a hashcoin already...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-hashcoin-hash-x11-animated-logo-dgw-fast-exchanges-568453

What is the mining calculator like for these hashpoos? How many can I mean with 30gh?

That coin has nothing to do with GAW. And GAW is now saying their coin will have a different name.

As for a calculator, the coin hasn't been released, we don't even know which algo it's going to use, so no, you can't calculate anything.

But according to promises and/or rumors you can mine ~1 coin per day if you purchase ~25 ZenHashlets (currently about $12 each) or ~15 PrimeHashlets (~$46 each). I don't know what that means for the value of the coin.

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Quote from: bitgeek on November 01, 2014, 01:39:30 PM

Quote from: SDRebel on November 01, 2014, 01:18:17 PM

There's no negotiations. Zen is not a real pool. Josh arbitrarily decides how much it pays

Any proof of this or bullshit as always?

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