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Topic: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) - page 6. (Read 262906 times)

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Of all the "cloud" mining vendors out there, do others have payment issues (paying wrong amount, holds on payments, etc)? Honest question, as I haven't spent much time looking at the other vendors, but it seems like it is more of a recurring issue for GAW than others. It seems a large part of this is there strange casino style "mining" where you bought something that was artificially tied to the rate of a different pools payouts, but without actually mining there. Seems like it is more work for GAW, than just creating "RandomHashlet" and assigning a random payout using a provably fair method (ala any number of the bitcoin gambling sites).

Also, what is the legality of changing your TOS for a contracted miner i've already bought? Meaning, can they really just change the terms as they see fit on something I have already paid for? Isn't that a breach of contract? If you look at the mobile space (Verizon, ATT, etc) they can't just decide to change the terms on existing subscribers. Thats why some people have unlimited plans still, even though the mobiles no longer sell them. I just wonder if GAW has kept date stamped copies of the TOS and kept track of which miners apply to which version. Or maybe the laws are different, and they can just change the terms on the fly, with no repercussions.

[Edit: Fix spelling errors]

Of course not! It's not rocket science to build a system that credits numbers correctly. For example, we can count the number of users affected with any payout issue in one hand. Smiley

-Sahra

And your service keeps getting better, that's the only reason I have 50% of my payouts auto reinvest.

Lol wait...you are reinvesting in GAW still?

No look at the account name I was responding to.  It's hashie.co official account.
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Of all the "cloud" mining vendors out there, do others have payment issues (paying wrong amount, holds on payments, etc)? Honest question, as I haven't spent much time looking at the other vendors, but it seems like it is more of a recurring issue for GAW than others. It seems a large part of this is there strange casino style "mining" where you bought something that was artificially tied to the rate of a different pools payouts, but without actually mining there. Seems like it is more work for GAW, than just creating "RandomHashlet" and assigning a random payout using a provably fair method (ala any number of the bitcoin gambling sites).

Also, what is the legality of changing your TOS for a contracted miner i've already bought? Meaning, can they really just change the terms as they see fit on something I have already paid for? Isn't that a breach of contract? If you look at the mobile space (Verizon, ATT, etc) they can't just decide to change the terms on existing subscribers. Thats why some people have unlimited plans still, even though the mobiles no longer sell them. I just wonder if GAW has kept date stamped copies of the TOS and kept track of which miners apply to which version. Or maybe the laws are different, and they can just change the terms on the fly, with no repercussions.

[Edit: Fix spelling errors]

Of course not! It's not rocket science to build a system that credits numbers correctly. For example, we can count the number of users affected with any payout issue in one hand. Smiley

-Sahra

And your service keeps getting better, that's the only reason I have 50% of my payouts auto reinvest.

Lol wait...you are reinvesting in GAW still?
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Activity: 168
Merit: 100
Of all the "cloud" mining vendors out there, do others have payment issues (paying wrong amount, holds on payments, etc)? Honest question, as I haven't spent much time looking at the other vendors, but it seems like it is more of a recurring issue for GAW than others. It seems a large part of this is there strange casino style "mining" where you bought something that was artificially tied to the rate of a different pools payouts, but without actually mining there. Seems like it is more work for GAW, than just creating "RandomHashlet" and assigning a random payout using a provably fair method (ala any number of the bitcoin gambling sites).

Also, what is the legality of changing your TOS for a contracted miner i've already bought? Meaning, can they really just change the terms as they see fit on something I have already paid for? Isn't that a breach of contract? If you look at the mobile space (Verizon, ATT, etc) they can't just decide to change the terms on existing subscribers. Thats why some people have unlimited plans still, even though the mobiles no longer sell them. I just wonder if GAW has kept date stamped copies of the TOS and kept track of which miners apply to which version. Or maybe the laws are different, and they can just change the terms on the fly, with no repercussions.

[Edit: Fix spelling errors]

Of course not! It's not rocket science to build a system that credits numbers correctly. For example, we can count the number of users affected with any payout issue in one hand. Smiley

-Sahra

And your service keeps getting better, that's the only reason I have 50% of my payouts auto reinvest.
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Of all the "cloud" mining vendors out there, do others have payment issues (paying wrong amount, holds on payments, etc)? Honest question, as I haven't spent much time looking at the other vendors, but it seems like it is more of a recurring issue for GAW than others. It seems a large part of this is there strange casino style "mining" where you bought something that was artificially tied to the rate of a different pools payouts, but without actually mining there. Seems like it is more work for GAW, than just creating "RandomHashlet" and assigning a random payout using a provably fair method (ala any number of the bitcoin gambling sites).

Also, what is the legality of changing your TOS for a contracted miner i've already bought? Meaning, can they really just change the terms as they see fit on something I have already paid for? Isn't that a breach of contract? If you look at the mobile space (Verizon, ATT, etc) they can't just decide to change the terms on existing subscribers. Thats why some people have unlimited plans still, even though the mobiles no longer sell them. I just wonder if GAW has kept date stamped copies of the TOS and kept track of which miners apply to which version. Or maybe the laws are different, and they can just change the terms on the fly, with no repercussions.

[Edit: Fix spelling errors]

Of course not! It's not rocket science to build a system that credits numbers correctly. For example, we can count the number of users affected with any payout issue in one hand. Smiley

-Sahra
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15mh = 500watts, are they the same chips in the new ones?

that would be 25k watts hahah


lol 25,000 Watts dam i will call the gas company and shut off my propane gas and just run those throughout the house for heat
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New ones, I think KnC Titan and those other guys I can't remember at the moment come in at 8W per ASIC and about 256 ASICs per 250MH miner = 2048W per 250MH. Ish. Have fun running three of those at home.  Smiley

i have the power at my house but i doubt its worth it. scrypt profitability is horrible when you figure in the electricity.
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New ones, I think KnC Titan and those other guys I can't remember at the moment come in at 8W per ASIC and about 256 ASICs per 250MH miner = 2048W per 250MH. Ish. Have fun running three of those at home.  Smiley
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15mh = 500watts, are they the same chips in the new ones?

that would be 25k watts hahah

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I can't believe people aren't jumping up and down in riot at that vaultbreaker post.
IF only we was all on web cam you would see we are while wearing our ski masks and tear gas goggles  Cool

What do you think the power use is going to be for those 3 x 250MH miners? The Vaultbreaker was supposed to be 750MH @ 1000W, I'm guessing these not-Titans-honestly miners will be ~2000W each. Shocked
i am thinking you are correct IF they even come out i say between 2000W - 2500 W
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You wan chili saus?
I can't believe people aren't jumping up and down in riot at that vaultbreaker post.
IF only we was all on web cam you would see we are while wearing our ski masks and tear gas goggles  Cool

What do you think the power use is going to be for those 3 x 250MH miners? The Vaultbreaker was supposed to be 750MH @ 1000W, I'm guessing these not-Titans-honestly miners will be ~2000W each. Shocked
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Ban from my one account was lifted btw. Have to check how long it took.
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I can't believe people aren't jumping up and down in riot at that vaultbreaker post.
IF only we was all on web cam you would see we are while wearing our ski masks and tear gas goggles  Cool
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I can't believe people aren't jumping up and down in riot at that vaultbreaker post.
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You wan chili saus?
Small potatoes.

I heard that GAW is in talks with Obama and Hashcoins will be backing USD. The dollar will soon feature Josh's smug face and inappropriate vests floating above the pyramid.

In GAW we trust.

Haha. Josh for president 2016! Grin
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Yeah, that must be it, GAW bought Twitter to censor anyone trying to make negative statements on there about them.  Grin

Maybe it was an equity deal involving first round hashcoins. Two mysteries solved in one shot  Cool
LOL good stuff guys
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Small potatoes.

I heard that GAW is in talks with Obama and Hashcoins will be backing USD. The dollar will soon feature Josh's smug face and inappropriate vests floating above the pyramid.

In GAW we trust.
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Of all the "cloud" mining vendors out there, do others have payment issues (paying wrong amount, holds on payments, etc)? Honest question, as I haven't spent much time looking at the other venders, but it seems like it is more of a recurring issue for GAW than others. It seems a large part of this is there strange casino style "mining" where you bought something that was artificially tied to the rate of a different pools payouts, but without actually mining there. Seems like it is more work for GAW, than just creating "RandomHashlet" and assigning a random payout using a provably fair method (ala any number of the bitcoin gambling sites).

I use Genesis-Mining, Hashie.co, and LTCGear and have always gotten my payouts with Genesis-Mining and Hashie.co every day right on time and have always been able to withdraw with no problem.  LTCGear has always payed out on Friday flawlessly. 

As of right now this seems to be only a GAW thing and I think it results of their gross incompetence at running the company.  The only other companies that I have read that had problems like this turned out to be scams.

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Also, what is the legality of changing your TOS for a contracted miner i've already bought? Meaning, can they really just change the terms as they see fit on something I have already paid for? Isn't that a breach of contract? If you look at the mobile space (Verizon, ATT, etc) they can't just decide to change the terms on existing subscribers. Thats why some people have unlimited plans still, even though the mobiles no longer sell them. I just wonder if GAW has kept date stamped copies of the TOS and kept track of which miners apply to which version. Or maybe the laws are different, and they can just change the terms on the fly, with no repercussions.

I'm not a legal expert so I can't really say, but any time a website or service that I use has changed their TOS they have notified me about it which GAW has never done. 
i was interested in Hashie.co i got the 10ghs they give made account verified it. I can log in and all but i sent support ticket to them 36 hours ago asking where are they mining and can we see live pool stats. I see they have 1 picture on website but lets be honest someone can buy a shitload of ebay or other sites GHS rental and then just take screen shot. I have not heard back from them and i also do not like how they dont let you ask question in chat till you buy 20 GHS minimal. So its really going to cost me almost $10 so i can be able to ask a question lol.

They were mining at BTCGuild and have proof they were.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9230458
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Of all the "cloud" mining vendors out there, do others have payment issues (paying wrong amount, holds on payments, etc)? Honest question, as I haven't spent much time looking at the other venders, but it seems like it is more of a recurring issue for GAW than others. It seems a large part of this is there strange casino style "mining" where you bought something that was artificially tied to the rate of a different pools payouts, but without actually mining there. Seems like it is more work for GAW, than just creating "RandomHashlet" and assigning a random payout using a provably fair method (ala any number of the bitcoin gambling sites).

I use Genesis-Mining, Hashie.co, and LTCGear and have always gotten my payouts with Genesis-Mining and Hashie.co every day right on time and have always been able to withdraw with no problem.  LTCGear has always payed out on Friday flawlessly. 

As of right now this seems to be only a GAW thing and I think it results of their gross incompetence at running the company.  The only other companies that I have read that had problems like this turned out to be scams.

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Also, what is the legality of changing your TOS for a contracted miner i've already bought? Meaning, can they really just change the terms as they see fit on something I have already paid for? Isn't that a breach of contract? If you look at the mobile space (Verizon, ATT, etc) they can't just decide to change the terms on existing subscribers. Thats why some people have unlimited plans still, even though the mobiles no longer sell them. I just wonder if GAW has kept date stamped copies of the TOS and kept track of which miners apply to which version. Or maybe the laws are different, and they can just change the terms on the fly, with no repercussions.

I'm not a legal expert so I can't really say, but any time a website or service that I use has changed their TOS they have notified me about it which GAW has never done. 
i was interested in Hashie.co i got the 10ghs they give made account verified it. I can log in and all but i sent support ticket to them 36 hours ago asking where are they mining and can we see live pool stats. I see they have 1 picture on website but lets be honest someone can buy a shitload of ebay or other sites GHS rental and then just take screen shot. I have not heard back from them and i also do not like how they dont let you ask question in chat till you buy 20 GHS minimal. So its really going to cost me almost $10 so i can be able to ask a question lol.
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Yeah, that must be it, GAW bought Twitter to censor anyone trying to make negative statements on there about them.  Grin

Maybe it was an equity deal involving first round hashcoins. Two mysteries solved in one shot  Cool
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