Topic: GAWMINERS/ZENCLOUD - SCAM and LIES (Read 11190 times)
5 zenhashlets for 900$?1 zenhashlet costs 20$! You just were smart enough to buy some of the overpriced ones.
wow that sucks.. customer support handled that very poorly.
then again, the hashlet is already sold, so wtf can you do right.. man i feel for the op. i think the point of all this was he wasnt given a choice to back out or can find the sold part to figure what his prices were..
then again, the hashlet is already sold, so wtf can you do right.. man i feel for the op. i think the point of all this was he wasnt given a choice to back out or can find the sold part to figure what his prices were..
you sold 5 mh/s of Zen for $90 but wanted to post them for $900 ? so you leave GAW CEO negative feedback for it ? lol you should thank them. you came out way ahead. the zen are selling for $10-12 each now.
i never thoroughly read your post till now. i thought you sold a larger lot size. seems to me like your moaning and groaning over nothing. put on your big pants. there are folks that actually did have mistake sales where they sold 900 zens for $18 total. IMO you should give negative feedback when it is deserved. seems to me like you jumped the gun.
my .02
I am not sure why the OP is even still on default trust (especially after two long standing very reputable members were removed from default trust for much less of a questionable feedback). The OP is clearly trying to scam GAW by trying to get them to pay him an over market price of the hashlets he was "selling" i never thoroughly read your post till now. i thought you sold a larger lot size. seems to me like your moaning and groaning over nothing. put on your big pants. there are folks that actually did have mistake sales where they sold 900 zens for $18 total. IMO you should give negative feedback when it is deserved. seems to me like you jumped the gun.
my .02
you sold 5 mh/s of Zen for $90 but wanted to post them for $900 ? so you leave GAW CEO negative feedback for it ? lol you should thank them. you came out way ahead. the zen are selling for $10-12 each now.
i never thoroughly read your post till now. i thought you sold a larger lot size. seems to me like your moaning and groaning over nothing. put on your big pants. there are folks that actually did have mistake sales where they sold 900 zens for $18 total. IMO you should give negative feedback when it is deserved. seems to me like you jumped the gun.
my .02
i never thoroughly read your post till now. i thought you sold a larger lot size. seems to me like your moaning and groaning over nothing. put on your big pants. there are folks that actually did have mistake sales where they sold 900 zens for $18 total. IMO you should give negative feedback when it is deserved. seems to me like you jumped the gun.
my .02
You knew you sold the hashlets and were answered by their support and people here. But still you wrote to them that they owe you money, acting like they missed your payout or something, and when they checked your profile and found out that you sold on the marketplace and refused to pay, you jumped at them with your typical line "scam and lies". LOL
"unfortunately the miner sells for price different than mine and in that case you steal my miner and/or my money"
Can't argue with such reasoning
+1 on this. The OP is essentially wanting to receive the price that he "tried" to sell his hashlets on but instead entered the actual market price that caused the hashlets to sell. To say that he is missing 5k+ BTC is misleading as if he had set the price that he "intended" to set it at then there is no way they would have sold. "unfortunately the miner sells for price different than mine and in that case you steal my miner and/or my money"
Can't argue with such reasoning
You knew you sold the hashlets and were answered by their support and people here. But still you wrote to them that they owe you money, acting like they missed your payout or something, and when they checked your profile and found out that you sold on the marketplace and refused to pay, you jumped at them with your typical line "scam and lies". LOL
"unfortunately the miner sells for price different than mine and in that case you steal my miner and/or my money"
Can't argue with such reasoning
"unfortunately the miner sells for price different than mine and in that case you steal my miner and/or my money"
Can't argue with such reasoning
SCAM ALERT!
The final lies
SCAM ALERT!
Huh, I guess I did well with GAW miners after all...There were always some issues: first payment when I was buying Prime was delayed...waiting for support tickets to be solved...payout issues...
Anyhow, I managed to buy miners for total of 1.05 BTC, mined for a while, earned something there, then sold all miners for 1.50 BTC total
Anyhow, I managed to buy miners for total of 1.05 BTC, mined for a while, earned something there, then sold all miners for 1.50 BTC total
I warned you guys about these assholes weeks ago ( https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9118628 ) but everyone said it was all my fault...Im glad to see that their company is finally falling apart and that douchebag Josh is going to get the shit beaten out of him. I would leave the country if I were you, buddy. People usually don't like it when you steal their money. Fortunately for you, I'm in the southeast, but if I ever happen to be up in the northeast, expect a visit from me, I want my $1400 back. What kind of narcissistic asshole names their company "Geniuses at Work" only to be discovered as a bunch of incompetent scammers.
Another idiot who thought a marketplace is reversible and you can just place orders for fun.
People have already answered in your thread and reposting it won't do you any good.
I don't think GAW had anything to do with this sale, the blame solely is on you. I don't mean to sound like a dick, but the reason you could not cancel was someone beat you to the punch and purchased it. there are tons of folks that sit there and hit f5 (refresh) waiting for a mistake sale.
it sucks, but dust yourself off and move on.
it sucks, but dust yourself off and move on.
But the answer that tops it off is this one:
Thanks for the hashlets 
I'm glad you think its funny.well im glad at least you now admit its your screw up.
dont worry, it took me a while to when i fatfingered on trex. fuck you richie & rami you fuckers owe me a boat.
I warned you guys about these assholes weeks ago ( https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9118628 ) but everyone said it was all my fault...Im glad to see that their company is finally falling apart and that douchebag Josh is going to get the shit beaten out of him. I would leave the country if I were you, buddy. People usually don't like it when you steal their money. Fortunately for you, I'm in the southeast, but if I ever happen to be up in the northeast, expect a visit from me, I want my $1400 back. What kind of narcissistic asshole names their company "Geniuses at Work" only to be discovered as a bunch of incompetent scammers.
80% "buyback" price
80% huh? Sounds a bit like those fruit gambling machines...brilliant! great prices as always GAW
"I sold a share for less than I bought it! They scammed me!" Pathetic.
So you can mine with it for 6 months and you will still get 80% of the original purchase price? or the current market price?
https://hashtalk.org/topic/9443/gaw-guaranteed-buy-back-program-scarcity-and-proof-of-burn-would-spur-reinvestment
80% Guaranteed Buy Back Program and subsequent destruction of Primes sold into the program (Buy back isn’t working at the velocity is should, and no way to track destruction of sold-back Primes)
This is what the OP basically did, he wanted to sell for more, but in fact activated the buyback option and sold to GAW and since all sales are final he couldn't cancel it.
80% "buyback" price
80% huh? Sounds a bit like those fruit gambling machines...brilliant! great prices as always GAW
"I sold a share for less than I bought it! They scammed me!" Pathetic.
So you can mine with it for 6 months and you will still get 80% of the original purchase price? or the current market price?
80% "buyback" price
80% huh? Sounds a bit like those fruit gambling machines...brilliant! great prices as always GAW
"I sold a share for less than I bought it! They scammed me!" Pathetic.
So you can mine with it for 6 months and you will still get 80% of the original purchase price? or the current market price?
https://hashtalk.org/topic/9443/gaw-guaranteed-buy-back-program-scarcity-and-proof-of-burn-would-spur-reinvestment
80% Guaranteed Buy Back Program and subsequent destruction of Primes sold into the program (Buy back isn’t working at the velocity is should, and no way to track destruction of sold-back Primes)
This is what the OP basically did, he wanted to sell for more, but in fact activated the buyback option and sold to GAW and since all sales are final he couldn't cancel it.
80% "buyback" price
80% huh? Sounds a bit like those fruit gambling machines...brilliant! great prices as always GAW
"I sold a share for less than I bought it! They scammed me!" Pathetic.
So you can mine with it for 6 months and you will still get 80% of the original purchase price? or the current market price?
80% "buyback" price
80% huh? Sounds a bit like those fruit gambling machines...brilliant! great prices as always GAW
"I sold a share for less than I bought it! They scammed me!" Pathetic.
80% "buyback" price
80% huh? Sounds a bit like those fruit gambling machines...brilliant! great prices as always GAW
No gawman, the user put for sale on one price.
But sold for other price.
Gaw's price.
80% "buyback" price
But sold for other price.
Gaw's price.
80% "buyback" price
You really can't get over it and keep posting the same conversation...
It's not hard to draw conclusions from this situation:
The user sold his share on the market and wants to cancel the order.
The owner of the market says they don't cancel or rollback.
The user gets angry, calls them scammers and keeps posting his thread everywhere, hoping it will put pressure on them.
Botom line, the user is responsible for all sales, which he must have accepted when he registered on the marketplace. The marketplace owner has no obligation to cancel orders made by the user.
It's not hard to draw conclusions from this situation:
The user sold his share on the market and wants to cancel the order.
The owner of the market says they don't cancel or rollback.
The user gets angry, calls them scammers and keeps posting his thread everywhere, hoping it will put pressure on them.
Botom line, the user is responsible for all sales, which he must have accepted when he registered on the marketplace. The marketplace owner has no obligation to cancel orders made by the user.
https://hashtalk.org/topic/12380/service-and-resolution-update-10-17-2014
Another lie.
Another lie.
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Issue: Long Ticket Resolution Times
Description: Support Ticket Resolution Times were going unanswered or unresolved
Resolution: I’m working directly with our customer support team and am committing that by Friday October 24, 2014 all of our unassigned and backlogged tickets, as well as, all new tickets received up to Friday morning will be resolved.
Also, new internal processes are being built to change the internal reporting structure of our customer service team, as well as, the coordination of customer service with our development, sales, financial and leadership teams. As a result of this revamped process, GAW will be introducing the following ticketing service level agreements:
New tickets will be assigned and responded to within 2 Hours.
Tier 1 support will resolve all tickets within 4 hours of assignment or escalate to tier 2.
Tier 2 support will resolve all tickets within 48 hours of assignment or escalate to tier 3.
Tier 3 support will consist of Development, Sales or Financial issues and will be resolved within 96 hours from assignment (4 days).
All tickets not resolved within 5 days total time will be escalated to senior management for resolution and to track needed training’s or systems changes.
Description: Support Ticket Resolution Times were going unanswered or unresolved
Resolution: I’m working directly with our customer support team and am committing that by Friday October 24, 2014 all of our unassigned and backlogged tickets, as well as, all new tickets received up to Friday morning will be resolved.
Also, new internal processes are being built to change the internal reporting structure of our customer service team, as well as, the coordination of customer service with our development, sales, financial and leadership teams. As a result of this revamped process, GAW will be introducing the following ticketing service level agreements:
New tickets will be assigned and responded to within 2 Hours.
Tier 1 support will resolve all tickets within 4 hours of assignment or escalate to tier 2.
Tier 2 support will resolve all tickets within 48 hours of assignment or escalate to tier 3.
Tier 3 support will consist of Development, Sales or Financial issues and will be resolved within 96 hours from assignment (4 days).
All tickets not resolved within 5 days total time will be escalated to senior management for resolution and to track needed training’s or systems changes.
I personally looked in to this and was able to confirm that the user above listed the Hashlets for the price they were sold for.
Unfortunately, we can not reverse transactions that we listed incorrectly by sellers.
Imagine a situation where every time a sellers sold a hashlet, then changed their mind (or listed incorrectly, we reversed it. Just like eBay, you can list your Hashlets for any price you want, and you can change it anytime before it's sold. But once it sells, it can not be reversed.
I hope this clears this matter up a bit.
Unfortunately, we can not reverse transactions that we listed incorrectly by sellers.
Imagine a situation where every time a sellers sold a hashlet, then changed their mind (or listed incorrectly, we reversed it. Just like eBay, you can list your Hashlets for any price you want, and you can change it anytime before it's sold. But once it sells, it can not be reversed.
I hope this clears this matter up a bit.
Bullshit! Ebay sales CAN be reversed...all these cloud hashing shite sounds like pure BS to me..this will be the death of mining mark my words
tough luck OP unless other people come out and say they had similar problems you won't get anywhere
Buyers can also cancel or retract bids so not the only way I am afraid. eBay accept it and doing nothing about it. The same goes for sellers who can refuse or cancel sales based on a number of reasons.
The major difference between eBay and the gaw market place is that every item on eBay is somehow unique while every hashlet that GAW sells is essentially fungible. This results in there being much less legit reasons why someone would want to cancel a sale/purchase
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