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I really do not see Bayern Munich to be favorites over Bayer Leverkusen in this match considering what played out last season, moreover the Leverkusen side are not doing really badly this season except for the fact that they lost against leipzig and ever since they have been consistent in winning almost all their matches including their champions league match.

Bayern Munich on the other hand have been enjoying a winning streak so far this season and haven't lost yet and seem ready to contend for the title this season but would have to steal all 3 points from the Leverkusen side which also seem to be a very tedious task for Bayern Munich based on how resilient Xabi Alonso's side have been all the way from the previous season even up to this season.

This game will be among the most eagerly awaited by football fans, given both teams' performances this season. Bayern Munich has once again shown their might with a seamless game; in fact, they have gone back to being termed as a slaying team. Win after win placed them at the top of the table, all set to battle for the Bundesliga crown. However, Bayer Leverkusen is not to be underrated. While they had a lukewarm start to the season, they crept up surreptitiously and are now stationed at number two, a clear indicator that they mean business. This makes it difficult to predict whether either toughness or consistency prevails in Xabi Alonso's team; hence, making this game even harder than before! The victor in this game will consolidate his place at the top; therefore, competition in Bundesliga will be even more intense.
Oh yeah, talking of increased intensity that we now have in the Bundesliga it is an atmosphere I really love that it's playing out this way with Bayern Munich now not feeling comfortable about winning the league seamlessly. Prior to this time in recent seasons before the Bundlesliga season kicks off we would all have already concluded that Bayern Munich was going to win the title due to their unrivaled dominance of the league but Xabo Alonso has made a game changer in the league making Bayern Munich's chances of winning the title a matter of serious debate. And I think Brussia Dortmund should also take the bull by the horns and intensively join in the race as favourite so it doesn't look like a Leverkusen and Munich race only.
For now I can only see Bayern Munich and Bayer Leverkusen as the only contenders for the title this season. It's quite unfortunate that Borussia Dortmund have really fallen from where they used to be years ago. Had it been that Borussia Dortmund were still as strong as they used to be the Bundesliga would have been more and more interesting because more competition for the league is what we would have seen. But it's still good that at least there is a team that's actually giving Bayern Munich restless night. What's interesting to me now is that Kompany has risen to the occasion and is doing everything possible to keep Bayern Munich at the top. When he was appointed many really thought that it will take him a season or two to adapt, but that has not been the case as he has blended immediately and making the league more interesting to watch.
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But if Leverkusen wants to win the title, they will undoubtedly have to play better. Because Leverkusen's main rivals for the title, Bayern Munich, are in great form this season. The team is winning every match by a big margin. So if Leverkusen's overall performance is not stronger, they will not win the title.

Yep. "quite well" is not enough. Their midfield and front line are good but their defense is a bit worrying, conceding 3 goals is too much. They need to be better defensively.
And if they are so happy with a game like the one against Wolfsburg in their stadium... I'm really sorry, Bayern will destroy them

This season the Bundesliga should be more interesting, Bayern has been running at full speed.
Hopefully, Leverkusen, Stuttgart, and Dortmund can put some pressure on Kompany
Leverkusen are still one of the favourites this season in the Champions League after what they did last season, but if we compare their performance last season with the start of this season we can see a significant difference including a defence that is no longer as strong previously, but even so, of course the long season still allows Alonso to be able to improve their backline to be better later.

Leverkusen dramatic victory over Wolfsburg clearly proves that there is a weakness in their current defence, but luckily Leverkusen still has a good mentality in making comebacks in every game they play, seeing the fierce competition in the Bundesliga this season, Alonso should be able to make a lot of changes, especially since it is likely that a team like Bayern Munich will not give Leverkusen the opportunity to repeat what they did last season, the squad upgrades that occurred at Bayern Munich, Dortmund and also Stuttgart will of course provide a tight resistance for Leverkusen to be able to maintain their champion status this season.

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Oh yeah, talking of increased intensity that we now have in the Bundesliga it is an atmosphere I really love that it's playing out this way with Bayern Munich now not feeling comfortable about winning the league seamlessly. Prior to this time in recent seasons before the Bundlesliga season kicks off we would all have already concluded that Bayern Munich was going to win the title due to their unrivaled dominance of the league but Xabo Alonso has made a game changer in the league making Bayern Munich's chances of winning the title a matter of serious debate. And I think Brussia Dortmund should also take the bull by the horns and intensively join in the race as favourite so it doesn't look like a Leverkusen and Munich race only.
Many are too confident that Bayern will become champions. Why all of a sudden? Well, yes, there are prerequisites for this, but you shouldn’t make hasty conclusions based on this, since this is just an assumption. Even the strongest team can show dismal results in any match. Now you can’t be sure of anything. Any effective player is capable of making mistakes that will lead to defeat.

I watched many matches and saw such a picture. Therefore, I won’t risk joining the majority. Everything has its time.

The Bayern Munich team is in great form at the moment. They are able to perform well in every match. And being able to win by a large margin. This is the reason why Bayern Munich team is considered as the most favorite for the Bundesliga title. Both Leverkusen and Leipzig could not continue their winning streak. Leipzig drew two matches and Leverkusen lost one match. On the other hand, Bayern Munich have won all four of their matches.

Leverkusen is the title challenger for Bayern Munich. So many like me are looking forward to see the Munich vs Leverkusen match on September 28. If Bayern Munich can win this match by a big margin, then Bayern Munich is a worthy claimant for this season's title.
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In Germany, Bayern Munich continues to lead with 4 out of 4. We can say that the other teams follow with one defeat and obviously the point difference will continue like this for another 5-6 weeks. After Dortmund's heavy and unexpected defeat against their rival, the number of undefeated teams in the league dropped to 3. The first of course is Bayern Munich, while the other two teams are Union Berlin and Leipzig.
Bayern Munich, Leipzig and Union Berlin are the only three teams in Bundesliga that haven't lost a points that's they haven't faced any defeat while Dortmund that make them four fall out in their last match against Vfb stuttgart which ended 5-1 and make Dortmund to move to 8th place in the standings, Dortmund really disappointed me for allowing Vfb stuttgart to ride on them like a relegated teams that have loses every strength. Bayern Munich have taken a lead in the table with 12 points, three points different between Leverkusen and others two teams that have the same 9 points, while Leipzig and Union Berlin having everything the same, the league is just starting and nothing can be say but the teams the are ready to roll have started rolling, let see how the table will react when the league goes.
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In Germany, Bayern Munich continues to lead with 4 out of 4. We can say that the other teams follow with one defeat and obviously the point difference will continue like this for another 5-6 weeks. After Dortmund's heavy and unexpected defeat against their rival, the number of undefeated teams in the league dropped to 3. The first of course is Bayern Munich, while the other two teams are Union Berlin and Leipzig.
It takes special skills from the coach to be able to make Bayern Munich game reach the level it is at now, doubts from football fans about Kompany ability to handle Munich were answered with consecutive wins. Now Munich has managed to top the standings after successfully gaining maximum points from four matches, they are three points ahead of their closest rivals in second place.

The real test will soon come to Kompany when Leverkusen visits their headquarters, this match is very difficult to predict because both teams are in top form. Leverkusen have the chance to match Munich points tally, but if they lose, there will be a change in position in the standings. Can Kompany extend Bayern Munich winning record in the Bundesliga or will Xabi Alonso also a student of Pep Guardiola give Kompany his first defeat?
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Many are too confident that Bayern will become champions. Why all of a sudden? Well, yes, there are prerequisites for this, but you shouldn’t make hasty conclusions based on this, since this is just an assumption. Even the strongest team can show dismal results in any match. Now you can’t be sure of anything. Any effective player is capable of making mistakes that will lead to defeat.

I watched many matches and saw such a picture. Therefore, I won’t risk joining the majority. Everything has its time.
Everything can still roll because we still have a long schedule, the new format of the Champions League and the Bundesliga is only 30 matches away. Therefore, it would be unethical to conclude too quickly, although it cannot be denied that Bayern Munich performance is very promising, but in the end it is not certain whether that consistency can last until the end of the season? In the standings there is Leverkusen who continues to follow Bayern Munich behind so don't ignore the threat that still has the opportunity to shift Bayern Munich at any time. Remember Leverkusen has not experienced much decline, they only lost once out of 4 matches in the Bundesliga so the opportunity will not be too far to make Bayern Munich continue to be threatened.
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Do you believe in the high probability for Bayern Munich?
Maybe it's justified considering Bayern Munich's fantastic performance recently, after all they are also playing at home.


it's totally understandable that Bayern munich is being given a stronger probability of winning against Bayern Leverkusen. With the recent result they've had as compaired to that of Leverkusen, the winning probability is fair enough but the question is, how well can this reflect in the game Knowing the kind of team bayern Leverkusen is? Bayern Munich and Bayern Leverkusen have one thing in common and that is that you get to see a lot of thier goals from different players and coming from different angles. If you analyse this two teams from the last three games they played against themselves, it's very likely that they will be getting a draw out of this match regardless of the quality of the current Bayern Munich team. The mentality and the super power of the Leverkusen team is never to give up regardless of the team they are going against and that's one reason why I strongly believe that whatever Munich brings on, Leverkusen will deficult be equal to the task. The only added advantage that Bayern Munich will have is thier playing as the home team and if they are able to utilize that to thier advantage, they might get a fair win from this encounter.
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But if Leverkusen wants to win the title, they will undoubtedly have to play better. Because Leverkusen's main rivals for the title, Bayern Munich, are in great form this season. The team is winning every match by a big margin. So if Leverkusen's overall performance is not stronger, they will not win the title.

Yep. "quite well" is not enough. Their midfield and front line are good but their defense is a bit worrying, conceding 3 goals is too much. They need to be better defensively.
And if they are so happy with a game like the one against Wolfsburg in their stadium... I'm really sorry, Bayern will destroy them

This season the Bundesliga should be more interesting, Bayern has been running at full speed.
Hopefully, Leverkusen, Stuttgart, and Dortmund can put some pressure on Kompany
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Oh yeah, talking of increased intensity that we now have in the Bundesliga it is an atmosphere I really love that it's playing out this way with Bayern Munich now not feeling comfortable about winning the league seamlessly. Prior to this time in recent seasons before the Bundlesliga season kicks off we would all have already concluded that Bayern Munich was going to win the title due to their unrivaled dominance of the league but Xabo Alonso has made a game changer in the league making Bayern Munich's chances of winning the title a matter of serious debate. And I think Brussia Dortmund should also take the bull by the horns and intensively join in the race as favourite so it doesn't look like a Leverkusen and Munich race only.
Many are too confident that Bayern will become champions. Why all of a sudden? Well, yes, there are prerequisites for this, but you shouldn’t make hasty conclusions based on this, since this is just an assumption. Even the strongest team can show dismal results in any match. Now you can’t be sure of anything. Any effective player is capable of making mistakes that will lead to defeat.

I watched many matches and saw such a picture. Therefore, I won’t risk joining the majority. Everything has its time.
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VfB Stuttgart gave excellent performance in this match and I am impressed and surprised by the performance of that team.
D. Undav played well in this match and he played critical role in win because he did 2 important goals for his team and he attacked on the opponent team from the start of match.  He did his firsr goal at 4 minutes of the match when match was just started and he did his  second goal at 45 minutes of the match. 21' E. Millot and B. Touré also goals at 45 minutes and We saw one sided and audience didn't enjoy that match because all want tough competition. Both teams have good position on points table and they have equal points but Borussia Dortmund has 0 GD as comparison of 4 GD  of VfB Stuttgart team.

The Dortmund team performed very well in the first three matches. So we all expected Dortmund to win against Stuttgart. But Stuttgart dominated their home match. The performance of Dortmund's players was quite poor in this match. Players are also not able to attack much. Dortmund played somewhat defensively in this match. However, Dortmund conceded 5 goals in this match. Dortmund conceded the goal only 4 minutes after the start of the match. Dortmund fell behind at the beginning of the match. And the players of Dortmund were not able to make a comeback in the whole match. The dominance of Stuttgart's players surprised everyone in this match.
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Stuttgart was a surprise as they managed to humiliate Dortmund with a crushing score, we know Dortmund is a tough opponent but in last night's match they had to be embarrassed by the losing score.

Next week may be an interesting match again, because Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen meet early, we know last season Leverkusen beat him and the current season still does not know which one will win.
Yes, the match between Stuttgart vs Borussia Dortmund surprised me, because Borussia Dortmund had to lose by conceding 5 goals and could only reply with 1 goal, it was a result that never crossed my mind with such a big defeat. Borussia Dortmund has not been able to find its best form, but that is something natural because it is because they themselves do not seem to care about achievement. In my opinion, Borussia Dortmund will decline this season and they will no longer be competitors for Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich already has a new competitor, Leverkusen, who can even break their champion record for more than a decade. While Borussia Dortmund is always in the same situation every season and tends to decline.
This match was really amazing as Stuttgart beat a strong team like Dortmund 5/1. Stuttgart really came as a surprise and they managed to score goals which was interesting, I think if they are excited like that this season they will definitely be in a good position towards the end of the season. Borussia Dortmund though did not play at their best in this match due to which they did not win the match only they countered with 1 goal which is a pity for them. If Borussia Dortmund could have won the match they would have hoped to move to the top of the points table but they lost points leaving the match and Stuttgart managed to occupy a good position with 3 points.
VfB Stuttgart gave excellent performance in this match and I am impressed and surprised by the performance of that team.
D. Undav played well in this match and he played critical role in win because he did 2 important goals for his team and he attacked on the opponent team from the start of match.  He did his firsr goal at 4 minutes of the match when match was just started and he did his  second goal at 45 minutes of the match. 21' E. Millot and B. Touré also goals at 45 minutes and We saw one sided and audience didn't enjoy that match because all want tough competition. Both teams have good position on points table and they have equal points but Borussia Dortmund has 0 GD as comparison of 4 GD  of VfB Stuttgart team.
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In Germany, Bayern Munich continues to lead with 4 out of 4. We can say that the other teams follow with one defeat and obviously the point difference will continue like this for another 5-6 weeks. After Dortmund's heavy and unexpected defeat against their rival, the number of undefeated teams in the league dropped to 3. The first of course is Bayern Munich, while the other two teams are Union Berlin and Leipzig.
Bayern Munich will face a tough test to maintain their unbeaten record next week, when they host Leverkusen. Union Berlin cannot be trusted completely, they can easily lose their balance, in this case Leipzig are more reliable. If Kompany squad can beat Leverkusen, then it is clear that the standings will start to form with a points difference that may continue to be maintained until the end of the season. Dortmund defeat was very surprising, they have not shown any signs of being a title contender. Stuttgart, who were not favored after losing in the Champions League, took out their anger on Dortmund.

Many parties want to see the competition for the Bundesliga trophy involving several teams at once, but it seems unlikely to happen. Leverkusen and Bayern Munich will compete directly at the top of the standings, just like last season. Dortmund, Stuttgart, and Leipzig seem to provide temporary disruptions. What is clear is that the unbeaten record that Leverkusen once created will be difficult for any team to surpass.

Do you believe in the high probability for Bayern Munich?
Maybe it's justified considering Bayern Munich's fantastic performance recently, after all they are also playing at home.



I have always compared Bayern Munich and Bayern Leverkusen but Leverkusen gave us the shocker last season it will definitely be a great challenge this season and Bayern Munich has not just signed a new coach but also brought in players so they can overtake Bayern Leverkusen this season.
Kompany and Alonso has also been compared too much, now let us see what the both of them can offer. I am not sure Kompany is a good  enough manager than Xabi Alonso. They're not on the same levels.
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In Germany, Bayern Munich continues to lead with 4 out of 4. We can say that the other teams follow with one defeat and obviously the point difference will continue like this for another 5-6 weeks. After Dortmund's heavy and unexpected defeat against their rival, the number of undefeated teams in the league dropped to 3. The first of course is Bayern Munich, while the other two teams are Union Berlin and Leipzig.
Bayern Munich will face a tough test to maintain their unbeaten record next week, when they host Leverkusen. Union Berlin cannot be trusted completely, they can easily lose their balance, in this case Leipzig are more reliable. If Kompany squad can beat Leverkusen, then it is clear that the standings will start to form with a points difference that may continue to be maintained until the end of the season. Dortmund defeat was very surprising, they have not shown any signs of being a title contender. Stuttgart, who were not favored after losing in the Champions League, took out their anger on Dortmund.

Many parties want to see the competition for the Bundesliga trophy involving several teams at once, but it seems unlikely to happen. Leverkusen and Bayern Munich will compete directly at the top of the standings, just like last season. Dortmund, Stuttgart, and Leipzig seem to provide temporary disruptions. What is clear is that the unbeaten record that Leverkusen once created will be difficult for any team to surpass.

Do you believe in the high probability for Bayern Munich?
Maybe it's justified considering Bayern Munich's fantastic performance recently, after all they are also playing at home.

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Failing to win the German Bundesliga last season I think means that Vincent Kompany will be considered as a good choice if he he can help the club win the league title this season. However, if he manages to also win the UEFA Champions League title which I think will be almost impossible for him, then that will be the best way to shut his critics up and announce himself to the global stage. Just like you said, I also think Vincent Kompany's first major target this season will be to win the league title and then fight for any other available trophy
They have to be realistic in giving Vincent Kompany a target, because he will also need time to adapt with Bayern Munich and it will not be easy to compete in the Bundesliga now, because the Bundesliga is getting more competitive now after Leverkusen showed an extraordinary performance last season. Usually every season the opponent or competitor of Bayern Munich is only Borussia Dortmund and even then Borussia Dortmund has never been able to break Bayern Munich's dominance. This season it is much bigger, because another threat they will get from Leverkusen who even managed to break their record of consecutive champions last season. Now their target is at least to be able to return the trophy to the Bayern Munich public.

Kompany had a much better performance than we could ever expect to see in Bayern Munich from this coach. He was not successful at all recently and he failed before he joined Bayern Munich and when they chose this coach we were not expecting to see this good performance from him because he was not their first and even their second option for this season.
Now considering the performance he had recently maybe now the fans of Bayern Munich can again think about bigger achievements like the Champions League title.
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In Germany, Bayern Munich continues to lead with 4 out of 4. We can say that the other teams follow with one defeat and obviously the point difference will continue like this for another 5-6 weeks. After Dortmund's heavy and unexpected defeat against their rival, the number of undefeated teams in the league dropped to 3. The first of course is Bayern Munich, while the other two teams are Union Berlin and Leipzig.
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I really do not see Bayern Munich to be favorites over Bayer Leverkusen in this match considering what played out last season, moreover the Leverkusen side are not doing really badly this season except for the fact that they lost against leipzig and ever since they have been consistent in winning almost all their matches including their champions league match.

Bayern Munich on the other hand have been enjoying a winning streak so far this season and haven't lost yet and seem ready to contend for the title this season but would have to steal all 3 points from the Leverkusen side which also seem to be a very tedious task for Bayern Munich based on how resilient Xabi Alonso's side have been all the way from the previous season even up to this season.

This game will be among the most eagerly awaited by football fans, given both teams' performances this season. Bayern Munich has once again shown their might with a seamless game; in fact, they have gone back to being termed as a slaying team. Win after win placed them at the top of the table, all set to battle for the Bundesliga crown. However, Bayer Leverkusen is not to be underrated. While they had a lukewarm start to the season, they crept up surreptitiously and are now stationed at number two, a clear indicator that they mean business. This makes it difficult to predict whether either toughness or consistency prevails in Xabi Alonso's team; hence, making this game even harder than before! The victor in this game will consolidate his place at the top; therefore, competition in Bundesliga will be even more intense.
Oh yeah, talking of increased intensity that we now have in the Bundesliga it is an atmosphere I really love that it's playing out this way with Bayern Munich now not feeling comfortable about winning the league seamlessly. Prior to this time in recent seasons before the Bundlesliga season kicks off we would all have already concluded that Bayern Munich was going to win the title due to their unrivaled dominance of the league but Xabo Alonso has made a game changer in the league making Bayern Munich's chances of winning the title a matter of serious debate. And I think Brussia Dortmund should also take the bull by the horns and intensively join in the race as favourite so it doesn't look like a Leverkusen and Munich race only.
Frankly, I don't think Borussia Dortmund has much chance of winning the championship this year. We can watch a championship fight between Leverkusen and Bayern Munich. I don't know if Borussia Dortmund can participate in this, but from what I see at the moment, they seem like a team that can be in the race for third place. They can lose that in Stuttgart, just like the match where they conceded five goals. Although I don't expect it to be a very difficult season for Borussia Dortmund, I think they will be far from winning the championship.
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I really do not see Bayern Munich to be favorites over Bayer Leverkusen in this match considering what played out last season, moreover the Leverkusen side are not doing really badly this season except for the fact that they lost against leipzig and ever since they have been consistent in winning almost all their matches including their champions league match.

Bayern Munich on the other hand have been enjoying a winning streak so far this season and haven't lost yet and seem ready to contend for the title this season but would have to steal all 3 points from the Leverkusen side which also seem to be a very tedious task for Bayern Munich based on how resilient Xabi Alonso's side have been all the way from the previous season even up to this season.

This game will be among the most eagerly awaited by football fans, given both teams' performances this season. Bayern Munich has once again shown their might with a seamless game; in fact, they have gone back to being termed as a slaying team. Win after win placed them at the top of the table, all set to battle for the Bundesliga crown. However, Bayer Leverkusen is not to be underrated. While they had a lukewarm start to the season, they crept up surreptitiously and are now stationed at number two, a clear indicator that they mean business. This makes it difficult to predict whether either toughness or consistency prevails in Xabi Alonso's team; hence, making this game even harder than before! The victor in this game will consolidate his place at the top; therefore, competition in Bundesliga will be even more intense.
Oh yeah, talking of increased intensity that we now have in the Bundesliga it is an atmosphere I really love that it's playing out this way with Bayern Munich now not feeling comfortable about winning the league seamlessly. Prior to this time in recent seasons before the Bundlesliga season kicks off we would all have already concluded that Bayern Munich was going to win the title due to their unrivaled dominance of the league but Xabo Alonso has made a game changer in the league making Bayern Munich's chances of winning the title a matter of serious debate. And I think Brussia Dortmund should also take the bull by the horns and intensively join in the race as favourite so it doesn't look like a Leverkusen and Munich race only.
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The match against Bayern Munich next week will be a test of consistency for Leverkusen and also the first test for Kompany by facing a strong team in the Bundesliga, I think the match will be a game full of revenge from Munich after in the last few games Munich failed to beat Leverkusen, although the result of the match will not affect their chances of get trophy because a still long season, but of course victory will be very important in order to improve the mentality of the two teams later.

I won’t say the next match between this two teams will be used to test their actual strength in the league. They’ve both did very well in the past and the most recent been the one of Bayern Leverkusen which they did an unbeaten run last season. They are both doing great this season with Bayern Munich already taking the lead in the standings. This match will either make Bayern Leverkusen reduce the points on Bayern Munich or Bayern Munich use this chance to increase their lead over their top rival in the league. Anything can happen in this match but that doesn’t give us the actual result on the outcome of the team that will win the league title.

So far this season Bayern Munich is having a better performance unlike the last season where they were trashed by Bayer Leverkusen who ended their performance in the league and took the trophy out of their hands.
They're trying so hard to not let that happen again this time around... The monopoly has been broken a few times, although breaking through isn't for any sub-divisional team.

You know after last season, many teams in the Bundesliga would grow more confidence in themselves because of how the trophy was collected from Bayern Munich. Bayern Leverkusen really broke the monopoly but keeping up with it won’t be something that easy though. Let’s wait to see how this season will end for them.
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I don't know how Borussia Dortmund will let us forget this heavy defeat. Not only Nuri Şahin but also the players are responsible for this. Such a defeat cannot be explained. Especially a team with the best players in the world like Borussia Dortmund can never explain this. Borussia Dortmund, who played in the finals in the Champions League last year, is conceding five goals from Stuttgart this year. They should see where they made a mistake. Nuri Şahin should come to his senses and intervene in the team. The team played very mediocre in the Stuttgart match.

They didn't play mediocre, they played like a 3rd or 4th devision team.
Up until now, I don't really see what can make them better. Nuri Sahin is inexperienced as a coach, they didn't really get strong enforcements over the summer and the overall atmosphere and feeling of the team just doesn't click.
Sure, sometimes defeats like this can spark a reaction from the team and that's the only thing I can hope for in this situation but honestly, there are so many issue at the moment, I just don't see them fixing it over night.
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Move to top of points table? How is that possible? Winning or not, they're not going anywhere near the top of the table. The result of that game surprised everyone thou. Seeing the line up before the game, I did not expect much from them but I wasn't actually expecting a defeat with thunderstorm score as that. It was very embarrassing. Stuggart played excellently and the scoreline justify it.

 It's a well deserved defeat for Dortmund credit to Sahin who puts players in a position they're not too good at. When the couch is clueless, defeat is what await his team. Imagine your team two goals down and you subbed in two defenders. For what exactly? That wasn't enough, after making it three goals he then bring in a DM. I don't know what to call that tactics tbh.
Dortmund has not found its best performance and many people are talking too much about the positive results they achieved in several previous matches so that finally this week's defeat with a fairly big score occurred, there is no reason for this defeat because Dortmund deserved to lose, they played very badly.
Nuri Şahin must immediately improve, what he has done so far has not shown the best performance for the Dortmund team.

And for Stuttgart I think it also does not prove anything because of this victory, so far Stuttgart has indeed been a strong team but they have not been able to maintain the consistency of their performance.
I don't know how Borussia Dortmund will let us forget this heavy defeat. Not only Nuri Şahin but also the players are responsible for this. Such a defeat cannot be explained. Especially a team with the best players in the world like Borussia Dortmund can never explain this. Borussia Dortmund, who played in the finals in the Champions League last year, is conceding five goals from Stuttgart this year. They should see where they made a mistake. Nuri Şahin should come to his senses and intervene in the team. The team played very mediocre in the Stuttgart match.
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