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The surprise result of the day was Stuttgart beating Dortmund 5-1 at home. I don't think anyone expected such a difference, and after Stuttgart's loss to Real earlier in the week, we might have expected them to be in low spirits.
Stuttgart was one of the best teams in the German Bundesliga last season so it's understandable that they defeated Borussia Dortmund in their over the weekend but what was actually surprising about the result of the goal margin that Stuttgart used in beating the last season UCL finalists. MHP Arena has always been a fortress for Stuttgart and I don't think they'll ever want to allow themselves to beaten at home by other teams.

But I didn't find Leverkusen that strong in this match, but I had a misunderstanding.  Leverkusen proved to be good and strong in this match and Bayern Munich are considered in this league but I will still put Leverkusen ahead because they scored 3 goals in the whole match and Bayern Munich didn't see a single goal.
Considering the performance and results of Bayern Munich since the start of the season, I don't think it's actually ideal to compare them against Bayer Leverkusen using Bayern Munich's results of last season. Bayern Munich have easily been the best German team since the start of the season and that's why I think they'll get the better of Bayer Leverkusen when they meet each other this weekend.
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But I didn't find Leverkusen that strong in this match, but I had a misunderstanding.  Leverkusen proved to be good and strong in this match and Bayern Munich are considered in this league but I will still put Leverkusen ahead because they scored 3 goals in the whole match and Bayern Munich didn't see a single goal.

At the moment I'm realistic, there are a lot of chances for both teams. Bayern Munich will try to win to stay at the top and Leverkusen I think will work hard. Bayern Munich's advantage is that they are at home, their mental condition is also good.  Leverkusen I think it's the same, but the record of always winning has been broken. The current condition is quite different from last season. I'm a little more confident Munich can surprise. The facts of Munich players statistically look better. It was a big game and Kompany's first test for a big game. His ability will be seen from the results of this match.
Yes, I agree both teams have the same chance. Their first meeting this season is what we are waiting for, this will be a tactical battle for both coaches. And so far Munich looks more consistent and even their goal productivity is extraordinary in their last 2 matches, Kompany's troops are much more prepared in this match, on the other hand Alonso's team still has shortcomings in the defense line he has not been able to fix it they have conceded 9 goals Leverkusen must work harder in this match. Reflecting on all this I am more favoring Munich to win.
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The surprise result of the day was Stuttgart beating Dortmund 5-1 at home. I don't think anyone expected such a difference, and after Stuttgart's loss to Real earlier in the week, we might have expected them to be in low spirits.

Nothing surprised me from Stuttgart beating Dortmund 5-1. It's all Nuri's fault for experimenting with his squad. And i hate him. I hate the way he was experimenting with his squad. This was because he was playing his players not in their actual positions.

It's very weird to see him put Sclotterbeck at LB, Sabitzer at RW/RM with Beier, and Gittens on the bench. That's insane. It feels like he is trying to be "tactical geniuses" with his weird formation.
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This is how Bayern's rivals are gradually losing points, and if Bayer loses at the Allianz Arena on Saturday, Bayern will be able to get a very good lead over all their main rivals, and rivals like Freiburg and Eintracht, I think, will eventually fall lower in the table. Bayer lost to Leipzig at home, barely beat Wolfsborg yesterday, it seems to me that Bayern should beat such a Bayer and continue their winning streak. Of course, even a draw would be quite an acceptable result for them, but it seems to me that Bayern is now capable of beating any rival.
It's been a whole lot of anticipations as to what we should be expecting from Saturday games, and that has been why the conversation about this has not persisted as everyone has been really discussing about this rivals because they have been of awesome performance this season but I still think that if Bayer loose that game, it's not all that will determine how well they are going to perform through our the season because beyond this game are other games they will be playing so they literally still have a chance and if like last session they loose only this and win every other games, they are most likely to stay ahead especially if  Bayern Munich do not stay consistent with their winning and maintaining a win with other games.
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Stuttgart seems to want to tell that they will still surprise this season just like before and the decision to sell Guirassy to Dortmund who was one of the key players in Stuttgart last season does not make them a bad club in terms of productivity.   I don't think anyone would have expected a score like this to happen even though I also didn't bet here because i knew that both situations were still tired after playing the Champions League but i also didn't feel that the score would be this big because my initial prediction was a draw or playing with a thin advantage but the opposite happened.

The first half of Dortmund was completely destroyed where they seemed to lose confidence in controlling the ball which in the end the Stuttgart players were quite free in developing the game including creating opportunities that could be converted into goals because of 2 quick goals in the 20 minutes of the first half.
What happened in the Dortmund match was a reflection of regression, being slaughtered by Stuttgart was far from what I expected. Although indeed Stuttgart seemed to vent their bad results in the UCL to Dortmund. Actually, even the first half was enough to explain that there was no need to continue to the second half. The mentality of the Dortmund players had fallen, the single goal that was created would not change anything so Stuttgart just played relaxed in the second half because they knew their lead would be difficult to catch by Dortmund.
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But I didn't find Leverkusen that strong in this match, but I had a misunderstanding.  Leverkusen proved to be good and strong in this match and Bayern Munich are considered in this league but I will still put Leverkusen ahead because they scored 3 goals in the whole match and Bayern Munich didn't see a single goal.

At the moment I'm realistic, there are a lot of chances for both teams. Bayern Munich will try to win to stay at the top and Leverkusen I think will work hard. Bayern Munich's advantage is that they are at home, their mental condition is also good.  Leverkusen I think it's the same, but the record of always winning has been broken. The current condition is quite different from last season. I'm a little more confident Munich can surprise. The facts of Munich players statistically look better. It was a big game and Kompany's first test for a big game. His ability will be seen from the results of this match.
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Dortmund has not found its best performance and many people are talking too much about the positive results they achieved in several previous matches so that finally this week's defeat with a fairly big score occurred, there is no reason for this defeat because Dortmund deserved to lose, they played very badly.
Nuri Şahin must immediately improve, what he has done so far has not shown the best performance for the Dortmund team.

And for Stuttgart I think it also does not prove anything because of this victory, so far Stuttgart has indeed been a strong team but they have not been able to maintain the consistency of their performance.
A team as big as Dortmund, even though they haven't found their best game, they shouldn't lose with a score like that, it's questionable why Dortmund is like that this season. I actually feel Dortmund is worse than last year, in this match they fired two shots on goal throughout the match. Even though Stuttgart is not the first ranked team, or even the top five ranked team, how will Dortmund be when they play against strong teams in the Bundesliga.

Nuri Sahin not only has to improve himself immediately but he also has to be given pressure from the club if he doesn't improve his team immediately he will be fired. Because Dortmund's biggest problem is that they can't handle the pressure, they don't have an answer and give up easily. Then they lose confidence and Dortmund's defense line is very bad in this match, they let the opposing players always have full freedom in the penalty area.

So I think Dortmund should give a warning to their coach to improve himself immediately if he doesn't change immediately he will be fired immediately. Because Dortmund needs a coach who dares to make decisions and can make his players not give up easily.
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The Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen game that'll be played on Saturday will be a very interesting game to watch for fans if both clubs as well as neutrals. Last season, we saw how Bayer Leverkusen dominated the league and went on to win the league without conceding a defeat in the entire season - a record that no German club have ever matched while this season, Bayern Munich have been the best team in the league and have won all league games they've played so far. So the game will be a big test for both teams in their quest to know who's better than each other at the moment
This match was really very interesting and tough and it was difficult for both teams to win because both teams were strong at that time.  It was their hard work and because of that they won this league. If any team works hard and plays with the intention of winning the match and puts all their effort into it, then that team definitely wins the match and that includes Leverkusen.  were  And in this match too, we got to see the same performance and hard work.  Yes, I have seen and heard the performance of Bayern Munich, but they lost to Leverkusen in this league as well.  But I didn't find Leverkusen that strong in this match, but I had a misunderstanding.  Leverkusen proved to be good and strong in this match and Bayern Munich are considered in this league but I will still put Leverkusen ahead because they scored 3 goals in the whole match and Bayern Munich didn't see a single goal.
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By the way, I saw something surprising in yesterday's match when Stuttgart beat Dortmund with a score of 5-1 really this is beyond our expectations because we expect a fierce match, unfortunately Dortmund could not do anything until this embarrassing defeat happened. Usually Dortmund as one of the teams that has the best defense but a fast goal from Stuttgart in the 4th minute can disrupt Dortmund's defense also disrupts their concentration. Now Dortmund has to get out of the top 5 and they have to catch up in the near future.
Stuttgart seems to want to tell that they will still surprise this season just like before and the decision to sell Guirassy to Dortmund who was one of the key players in Stuttgart last season does not make them a bad club in terms of productivity.   I don't think anyone would have expected a score like this to happen even though I also didn't bet here because i knew that both situations were still tired after playing the Champions League but i also didn't feel that the score would be this big because my initial prediction was a draw or playing with a thin advantage but the opposite happened.

The first half of Dortmund was completely destroyed where they seemed to lose confidence in controlling the ball which in the end the Stuttgart players were quite free in developing the game including creating opportunities that could be converted into goals because of 2 quick goals in the 20 minutes of the first half.
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Stuttgart was prepared for everything and directed every atom of energy towards the visitors, .
It's still amazing to me, Borrusia Dortmund conceded 5 goals is definitely unacceptable and it's their first defeats of the 2024/2025 Bundesliga season.
I was smiling when i readed that with the atom of energy as it really describes it how that match was between Stuttgart against Dortmund.
Looks like that Stuttgart has done there homework and played very good and 5 Goals is a huge number.
There are no excuses for Dortmund , but hopefully they learned something from that defeat and making it better next weekend on friday against Bochum..
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Yes this match will be a discussion next week a fight between 2 favorite teams to win the title, almost all of us agree that Bayern Munich has a greater chance of winning the match, apart from playing at home they are also very consistent since the beginning of the season instead Leverkusen cannot be called consistent because of their defeat against Leipzig. However, we have no reason to underestimate Leverkusen and we still remember Leverkusen was the winner of the league last season with a perfect record.

By the way, I saw something surprising in yesterday's match when Stuttgart beat Dortmund with a score of 5-1 really this is beyond our expectations because we expect a fierce match, unfortunately Dortmund could not do anything until this embarrassing defeat happened. Usually Dortmund as one of the teams that has the best defense but a fast goal from Stuttgart in the 4th minute can disrupt Dortmund's defense also disrupts their concentration. Now Dortmund has to get out of the top 5 and they have to catch up in the near future.
This is how Bayern's rivals are gradually losing points, and if Bayer loses at the Allianz Arena on Saturday, Bayern will be able to get a very good lead over all their main rivals, and rivals like Freiburg and Eintracht, I think, will eventually fall lower in the table. Bayer lost to Leipzig at home, barely beat Wolfsborg yesterday, it seems to me that Bayern should beat such a Bayer and continue their winning streak. Of course, even a draw would be quite an acceptable result for them, but it seems to me that Bayern is now capable of beating any rival.

Yes, I see that this season there is a drastic improvement from Bayern Munich, I do not know about what Kompany has implemented in his new squad but what is certain is that I think by seeing how Bayern Munich's journey in facing this season I think it explains everything. I can't underestimate Leverkusen because they have only lost once, or I mean I haven't seen how their performance is overall, we have to see them compete against a top class team like Bayern Munich, and next Saturday we will see the match held which is a long-awaited match, Kompany will play at home and I think against Xabi Alonso's squad, meaning Bayern Munich is superior in this match and the worst is yes as you said friend, namely sharing points, but in any case Bayern Munich must try their best to secure full points in this match, because in any case now their points difference is quite thin with Leverkusen and several other teams in the top 4 area, but I am sure Kompany will not disappoint the fans at home.
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Dortmund has not found its best performance and many people are talking too much about the positive results they achieved in several previous matches so that finally this week's defeat with a fairly big score occurred, there is no reason for this defeat because Dortmund deserved to lose, they played very badly.
Nuri Şahin must immediately improve, what he has done so far has not shown the best performance for the Dortmund team.

And for Stuttgart I think it also does not prove anything because of this victory, so far Stuttgart has indeed been a strong team but they have not been able to maintain the consistency of their performance.
Stuttgart was prepared for everything and directed every atom of energy towards the visitors, always on the dominating side this season. Borrusia Dortmund should belt up if they're keen on making top four this season, other oppositions wouldn't take it likely or easy on them. In the meantime, Stuttgart performance proves everything for an average club, they're exceptional competitive this season, they're able to beat Borrusia Dortmund, it's no shocking results to me because checking their history, Stuttgart have dominated everything and keen on hitting top targets for the club. Borrusia Dortmund headcoach, Nuri Şahin have a lot of explaining to make after having such a poor results against his oppositions over the weekend.

Borrusia Dortmund management caused every single thing happening to the club, they've been selling out their potential talents, we're talking about talents that would have changed everything for the club for the better. Their growth would have been exceedingly increasing in every elite tournaments and performance development. It's still amazing to me, Borrusia Dortmund conceded 5 goals is definitely unacceptable and it's their first defeats of the 2024/2025 Bundesliga season.
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Leverkusen are not as strong as last season but they have a chance to compete with Bayern Munich this season. The upcoming match will pit both of them against each other and I think it is difficult to predict who will win the match.

Agree.
Leverkusen's performance at the start of this season is still not up to expectations, Conceding nine goals after four games is too much.
But I'm sure Alonso can learn a lot, analyze it, and fix it, in time they will be ready for the top two games, against Bayern in the Bundesliga and Milan in the UCL.

BTW, Jonathan Tah and Edmond Tapsoba can't survive in aerial duels and Nathan Tella looks like he has to play against Bayern.
Last season Leverkusen performed very perfectly unbeaten and they were able to end the season as a team with a few concedes, but after being able to maintain a 35-game unbeaten run in the league but in begin this season they must to end that positive trend at the hands of Leipzig, although they failed to maintain an unbeaten record but I think Leverkusen is still the favorite team as a title contender this season.
The match against Bayern Munich next week will be a test of consistency for Leverkusen and also the first test for Kompany by facing a strong team in the Bundesliga, I think the match will be a game full of revenge from Munich after in the last few games Munich failed to beat Leverkusen, although the result of the match will not affect their chances of get trophy because a still long season, but of course victory will be very important in order to improve the mentality of the two teams later.
Every good football analyst will be able to tell you that they do not expect Bayern leverkusen to be as consistent as they were last season. Such record as unbeating throughout the season is not something that is achieved twice consecutively. I did not actually expect Xavi Alonso and his boys to perform as good as they did last season, I do not also expect them to be able to retain the Bundesliga title, but it is obviously what they can do. My expectation of them is to be able to win individual matches against big clubs both in Bundesliga and in the Champions League, also I expect them to be the Champions or runner up of the Bundesliga and proceed very far in the Champions League. If Bayern if Bayern Leverkusen is able to do the above, they are good and that will mark their strong stand as a big team in both Germany and Europe at large.
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Leverkusen are not as strong as last season but they have a chance to compete with Bayern Munich this season. The upcoming match will pit both of them against each other and I think it is difficult to predict who will win the match.

Agree.
Leverkusen's performance at the start of this season is still not up to expectations, Conceding nine goals after four games is too much.
But I'm sure Alonso can learn a lot, analyze it, and fix it, in time they will be ready for the top two games, against Bayern in the Bundesliga and Milan in the UCL.

BTW, Jonathan Tah and Edmond Tapsoba can't survive in aerial duels and Nathan Tella looks like he has to play against Bayern.
Last season Leverkusen performed very perfectly unbeaten and they were able to end the season as a team with a few concedes, but after being able to maintain a 35-game unbeaten run in the league but in begin this season they must to end that positive trend at the hands of Leipzig, although they failed to maintain an unbeaten record but I think Leverkusen is still the favorite team as a title contender this season.
The match against Bayern Munich next week will be a test of consistency for Leverkusen and also the first test for Kompany by facing a strong team in the Bundesliga, I think the match will be a game full of revenge from Munich after in the last few games Munich failed to beat Leverkusen, although the result of the match will not affect their chances of get trophy because a still long season, but of course victory will be very important in order to improve the mentality of the two teams later.
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Stuttgart was a surprise as they managed to humiliate Dortmund with a crushing score, we know Dortmund is a tough opponent but in last night's match they had to be embarrassed by the losing score.

Next week may be an interesting match again, because Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen meet early, we know last season Leverkusen beat him and the current season still does not know which one will win.
Yes, the match between Stuttgart vs Borussia Dortmund surprised me, because Borussia Dortmund had to lose by conceding 5 goals and could only reply with 1 goal, it was a result that never crossed my mind with such a big defeat. Borussia Dortmund has not been able to find its best form, but that is something natural because it is because they themselves do not seem to care about achievement. In my opinion, Borussia Dortmund will decline this season and they will no longer be competitors for Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich already has a new competitor, Leverkusen, who can even break their champion record for more than a decade. While Borussia Dortmund is always in the same situation every season and tends to decline.

I am not really surprised by the result of this match, in fact I favored Stuttgart in last night's match. Although Stuttgart's performance has declined quite a bit, because some of their key players left, Sebastian Hoeness is much more experienced than Nuri Sahin. Clearly, in this match we see that Nuri Sahin has not been able to maximize his team when playing against a fairly competitive opponent. In fact, Sebastian Hoeness is a smart coach and he has many plans with his strategies, tactics and systems. It is proven, he tried to apply a different pattern when hosting Dortmund. In this match, Stuttgart's performance was even better than Nuri Sahin's poor team. In fact, several Stuttgart players joined Borussia Dortmund. In the Dortmund camp, Nuri Sahin tried to rotate some of his players. Unfortunately, the results were not as expected. Well, the results of this match are a big lesson for Dortmund coaches when they have to play in the next match. If Sahin is able to utilize each individual player, then Dortmund's performance will be much better. As for Leverkusen, Alonso has a problem with his defense. In four matches they have conceded 9 goals, something that should be corrected. Meanwhile, Bayern, is much more ready to welcome the Bundesliga trophy this season.
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Move to top of points table? How is that possible? Winning or not, they're not going anywhere near the top of the table. The result of that game surprised everyone thou. Seeing the line up before the game, I did not expect much from them but I wasn't actually expecting a defeat with thunderstorm score as that. It was very embarrassing. Stuggart played excellently and the scoreline justify it.

 It's a well deserved defeat for Dortmund credit to Sahin who puts players in a position they're not too good at. When the couch is clueless, defeat is what await his team. Imagine your team two goals down and you subbed in two defenders. For what exactly? That wasn't enough, after making it three goals he then bring in a DM. I don't know what to call that tactics tbh.
Dortmund has not found its best performance and many people are talking too much about the positive results they achieved in several previous matches so that finally this week's defeat with a fairly big score occurred, there is no reason for this defeat because Dortmund deserved to lose, they played very badly.
Nuri Şahin must immediately improve, what he has done so far has not shown the best performance for the Dortmund team.

And for Stuttgart I think it also does not prove anything because of this victory, so far Stuttgart has indeed been a strong team but they have not been able to maintain the consistency of their performance.
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Yes this match will be a discussion next week a fight between 2 favorite teams to win the title, almost all of us agree that Bayern Munich has a greater chance of winning the match, apart from playing at home they are also very consistent since the beginning of the season instead Leverkusen cannot be called consistent because of their defeat against Leipzig. However, we have no reason to underestimate Leverkusen and we still remember Leverkusen was the winner of the league last season with a perfect record.

By the way, I saw something surprising in yesterday's match when Stuttgart beat Dortmund with a score of 5-1 really this is beyond our expectations because we expect a fierce match, unfortunately Dortmund could not do anything until this embarrassing defeat happened. Usually Dortmund as one of the teams that has the best defense but a fast goal from Stuttgart in the 4th minute can disrupt Dortmund's defense also disrupts their concentration. Now Dortmund has to get out of the top 5 and they have to catch up in the near future.
This is how Bayern's rivals are gradually losing points, and if Bayer loses at the Allianz Arena on Saturday, Bayern will be able to get a very good lead over all their main rivals, and rivals like Freiburg and Eintracht, I think, will eventually fall lower in the table. Bayer lost to Leipzig at home, barely beat Wolfsborg yesterday, it seems to me that Bayern should beat such a Bayer and continue their winning streak. Of course, even a draw would be quite an acceptable result for them, but it seems to me that Bayern is now capable of beating any rival.
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This match was really amazing as Stuttgart beat a strong team like Dortmund 5/1. Stuttgart really came as a surprise and they managed to score goals which was interesting, I think if they are excited like that this season they will definitely be in a good position towards the end of the season. Borussia Dortmund though did not play at their best in this match due to which they did not win the match only they countered with 1 goal which is a pity for them. If Borussia Dortmund could have won the match they would have hoped to move to the top of the points table but they lost points leaving the match and Stuttgart managed to occupy a good position with 3 points.

Move to top of points table? How is that possible? Winning or not, they're not going anywhere near the top of the table. The result of that game surprised everyone thou. Seeing the line up before the game, I did not expect much from them but I wasn't actually expecting a defeat with thunderstorm score as that. It was very embarrassing. Stuggart played excellently and the scoreline justify it.

 It's a well deserved defeat for Dortmund credit to Sahin who puts players in a position they're not too good at. When the couch is clueless, defeat is what await his team. Imagine your team two goals down and you subbed in two defenders. For what exactly? That wasn't enough, after making it three goals he then bring in a DM. I don't know what to call that tactics tbh.
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Leverkusen are not as strong as last season but they have a chance to compete with Bayern Munich this season. The upcoming match will pit both of them against each other and I think it is difficult to predict who will win the match.

Agree.
Leverkusen's performance at the start of this season is still not up to expectations, Conceding nine goals after four games is too much.
But I'm sure Alonso can learn a lot, analyze it, and fix it, in time they will be ready for the top two games, against Bayern in the Bundesliga and Milan in the UCL.

BTW, Jonathan Tah and Edmond Tapsoba can't survive in aerial duels and Nathan Tella looks like he has to play against Bayern.

It's just been 4 games in the Bundesliga and 1 game in the UCL and people already think they can evaluate Leverkusen's performance.
People also said Dortmund started good and what do they say now??
Last season has been a novice in German football history Never seen before and I doubt it can be repeated. Leverkusen will find it's place and show what they are capable of. Yes they conceded 9 goals but they also score 13 in only 4 games. You have to score to win, if you make more goal then you concede there is no problem.
In 6 days we will see the big clash between them and Bayern and let's see what their doubters say then.
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Leverkusen are not as strong as last season but they have a chance to compete with Bayern Munich this season. The upcoming match will pit both of them against each other and I think it is difficult to predict who will win the match.
Agree.
Leverkusen's performance at the start of this season is still not up to expectations, Conceding nine goals after four games is too much.
But I'm sure Alonso can learn a lot, analyze it, and fix it, in time they will be ready for the top two games, against Bayern in the Bundesliga and Milan in the UCL.

With Leverkusen dominating the Bundesliga last season and winning the title, as well as the team going undefeated the whole season, our expectations from this team have been high this season. And this is why we say that Leverkusen's performance is not good. But considering the overall condition, I would say Leverkusen is performing quite well this season.

But if Leverkusen wants to win the title, they will undoubtedly have to play better. Because Leverkusen's main rivals for the title, Bayern Munich, are in great form this season. The team is winning every match by a big margin. So if Leverkusen's overall performance is not stronger, they will not win the title.
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