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Dortmund fans will now experience the effects of that match for a long time. They lost the championship by losing points against a team that had no claim in a match that could be champion, and Bayern Munich scored in the last minutes and became the champion again. No matter what happens in the Bundesliga, the champion does not change.
It's really hurts for all of dortmund fans. The fans have been waiting for more than a decade to see that moment come back again but dortmnud is not performing so well like the old dortmund that was winning bundesliga and competing with bayern.
I think that dortmund's performance will be average next season. So many great players are leaving from the club. Dortmund must think again to get cheap players and develop it to be as good as those who left from the club.
Dortmund was also losing a player to the bayern. I doubt if dortmund will able to be competitive enough against bayern next season. Shall dortmund fans wait for another decade to see the same moment to come again?
Terzic must have learned a lot from what happened against mainz. Dormund used all of its best players against mainz but it was losing in the first half.
Dortmund has small chance to create the same moment again next year.
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Many things will change at bayern Munich due to the fact that a new trainer has been appointed in the last part of the competition. But could he turn this into a football machine again? It would be nice if Bayern could play football again at its old level, there was a time when they were so incredibly good that they were more than 20 points ahead of the number 2 in the league. We saw it coming a bit, as going into the winter break, this was already Bayern's worst halfway result in the last 10 years. Dortmund will not be able to win the title in the coming years, but Bayern will have to get things right first and that has not been done in a few weeks.
With Bayern Munich going through a seismic shift at the top, it's pretty clear they're heading into a phase of reshuffling. Sure, change can be a tough nut to crack, but I'm staying positive. This change could be the springboard for Bayern to reclaim their lion status in the football jungle. Remember when they used to leave their competitors in the dust, racking up points like nobody's business? After their recent stumble - their worst mid-season performance in ten years - now is the time to turn adversity into opportunity. I've got faith that with the right game plan and iron will, Bayern will sit atop the German football throne again, no matter where Dortmund might stand tomorrow.

Basically, if you believe in Tuchel's quality in building a team, then I'm sure you won't doubt it. Because after all, with Tuchel there is plenty of time to rebuild the team and of course, to improve the team's performance to be as desired as before when it had such good dominance in the Bundesliga. But for me personally I'm sure that Tuchel will be able to do it all well. But what I'm waiting for is whether Tuchel can give Bayern Munich a big chance in the Champions League as well.
This works differently for different coach. Tuchel build a good team in chelsea and earned good record. This achievement was basically on the players signed by Frank Lampard and with the help of former chelsea owner. Tuchel on his own while given chance to sign his own players had challenges. 
Graham potter did well in building Brighton team and the team did extremely well in the last season while chelsea with Brighton couldn't perform well because the team want build by Potter. Tuchel can only build a team who's players selection was already made. He isn't good at signing players.
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I would like to see Dortmund and Leipzig give Bayern Munich a big fight for the title. I also believe that the next season might be the best chance for them to do so. The coach is a fairly new one. He will need some time to get set with the squad. This is a chance that these two teams should take. Obviously, I don’t think it is going to be easy. The squad of Bayern Munich is still the best in the Bundesliga in my opinion. But we know that if there is a problem in coaching, the team can actually lose the matches that they should not be losing.

So if the coaching is bad, that is the only chance that Dortmund and Leipzig are going to get to win the title. But the biggest thing is both of them will have to be consistent. If they are inconsistent like they were in the last season they do not have any hope.
Dortmund have been the closest contenders in terms of the Bundesliga title each season, but the problem is they are not strong enough to put themselves in a position of competition for the Bundesliga title. The previous season we had seen how close to the title it was for Dortmund, but ultimately fell short in the last game as they had to draw. I also hope there are several other teams that are able to break Bayern Munich's dominance next season with their thorough preparations and new players who come to the club.

Dortmund and Leipzig must become a bridge as a club that is able to do that next season and the key is consistency for the two teams the. Because as far as we can see how the 2022-2023 season is going and even the title is getting closer in sight it just disappeared for Dortmund because it was not ready to become a champion candidate.
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But hopefully in the next season they can actually have a core player who is good enough to be able to dominate the Bundesliga and take the championship trophy.
I hope so but dortmund must be coming with better performance compared with the last season. Im still waiting who will be replacing bellingham's position. Dortmund may still be in the process of getting a replacement for him.
Dortmund need to rebuild the mindset to be even tougher. It's always like that. Missing the biggest chance to stop bayern's win streak is a chance that will be rarely coming for dortmund. Not even for the upcoming season.

If bayern has better performance than last season and i will say dortmund has no chance to win next season's trophy.

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It seems that Dortmund are comfortable with this way of working, so it is always difficult for them to break the dominance of Bayern Munich, and when the season just finished they had the opportunity to break this dominance, not only because Dortmund appeared impressive but because Bayern experienced a sharp decline after the international break, ~snip~

They always do this. I think it's been a frequent thing. Selling the young star players. I think they will look for a new replacement quickly. The orientation of the club is very good. They are an example of a good club in business football.
As for Bayern Munich, they are in a period of change. So I can't say yet they will decline next season. There will be many surprises because the transfer market is still very long. Tuchel has had a tough season, as some of the best players left and came in at the latter age of a career.
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Wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the next season because they had their own policy to sell the players for years that's how they usually earn money. This business helped them to earn money by selling players like Haaland to Manchester City and now other players Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid while we know if Dortmund had both players in this season, by using a player like Haaland they could have much more chance to achieve the Bundesliga title, but they prefer to earn more money instead of this.
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Many things will change at bayern Munich due to the fact that a new trainer has been appointed in the last part of the competition. But could he turn this into a football machine again? It would be nice if Bayern could play football again at its old level, there was a time when they were so incredibly good that they were more than 20 points ahead of the number 2 in the league. We saw it coming a bit, as going into the winter break, this was already Bayern's worst halfway result in the last 10 years. Dortmund will not be able to win the title in the coming years, but Bayern will have to get things right first and that has not been done in a few weeks.
With Bayern Munich going through a seismic shift at the top, it's pretty clear they're heading into a phase of reshuffling. Sure, change can be a tough nut to crack, but I'm staying positive. This change could be the springboard for Bayern to reclaim their lion status in the football jungle. Remember when they used to leave their competitors in the dust, racking up points like nobody's business? After their recent stumble - their worst mid-season performance in ten years - now is the time to turn adversity into opportunity. I've got faith that with the right game plan and iron will, Bayern will sit atop the German football throne again, no matter where Dortmund might stand tomorrow.

Basically, if you believe in Tuchel's quality in building a team, then I'm sure you won't doubt it. Because after all, with Tuchel there is plenty of time to rebuild the team and of course, to improve the team's performance to be as desired as before when it had such good dominance in the Bundesliga. But for me personally I'm sure that Tuchel will be able to do it all well. But what I'm waiting for is whether Tuchel can give Bayern Munich a big chance in the Champions League as well.
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It seems to me that success in the Bundesliga is not really that important - the difference in income from first and second place is not much different. An important difference is the ability of the club to compete in European competition. For example Real Madrid lost La Liga this year, but in the Champions League they played just one game less than the maximum possible number and received a lot of money + advertising. Thus, their year turned out to be much more successful than that of Barcelona if we take purely finances. Dortmund need to aim not just for the Bundesliga title, but to represent something in the European arena.
Borussia Dortmund management never been gone for the title in Bundesliga or European competitions because their main business is buying youngsters and after few seasons Polish sell them at high price which is much better and profitable for them and they are having few good luxuries just because of their business role model and just because of this mind set Bayern Munich is enjoying good success in both level competitions because they are also having enough funds and their role model is also one of the best which is helping them for having enough quality players for the better results and win of trophies many times we discuss this here but Dortmund never been going to change their strategy and doing things as they want to do for having enough profit.
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It always surprises me when I see Dortmund fighting for a way to make huge profits from football rather than trophies, as other teams do. Yes, money is everything, but there are times when we need to put money aside and focus on the main goal, and right now Dortmund is always focusing on how to sell their star players and make money, which in my opinion is a bad idea for a team like Dortmund to be waiting for trophy for a long period of time due to there Performance and I hope they should change next coming year.
It seems that Dortmund are comfortable with this way of working, so it is always difficult for them to break the dominance of Bayern Munich, and when the season just finished they had the opportunity to break this dominance, not only because Dortmund appeared impressive but because Bayern experienced a sharp decline after the international break, lucky for Bayern Munich because when the chance to win the Bundesliga seemed impossible but Dortmund, who had this opportunity, failed. So when Dortmund can perform quite well in one season it's like a bonus because the next target is to sell their players at high prices, they like and succeed in getting big profits, so it turns out there are clubs whose business is to create stars and sell them not titles.
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Many things will change at bayern Munich due to the fact that a new trainer has been appointed in the last part of the competition. But could he turn this into a football machine again? It would be nice if Bayern could play football again at its old level, there was a time when they were so incredibly good that they were more than 20 points ahead of the number 2 in the league. We saw it coming a bit, as going into the winter break, this was already Bayern's worst halfway result in the last 10 years. Dortmund will not be able to win the title in the coming years, but Bayern will have to get things right first and that has not been done in a few weeks.
With Bayern Munich going through a seismic shift at the top, it's pretty clear they're heading into a phase of reshuffling. Sure, change can be a tough nut to crack, but I'm staying positive. This change could be the springboard for Bayern to reclaim their lion status in the football jungle. Remember when they used to leave their competitors in the dust, racking up points like nobody's business? After their recent stumble - their worst mid-season performance in ten years - now is the time to turn adversity into opportunity. I've got faith that with the right game plan and iron will, Bayern will sit atop the German football throne again, no matter where Dortmund might stand tomorrow.
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Like I said yesterday, it's not only about winning, making money is part of it. And to be realistic, no one can underestimate Dortmund in Bundesliga, so if they are interested in making more money than winning, it's their choice but all this is still guesswork as I don't expect any club to be thinking of money-making alone. Also for the record, they tried so well this season, after all, they ended the season with the same points as Bayern Munich, only that Bayern got there earlier than them.

This season and many other seasons that Dortmund did not win were still spectacular, they always prove that they are a viable contender, and one day they shall win the trophy again.
I have said this many times, that business and football cannot be separated, but how do they place between those 2 needs, achievement and money. If they prioritize too much about money, then they will place achievements that may not be the main target. Whereas when they focus on achievement I think the money will follow by itself, for example there will be many big sponsors coming in and so on.

If you don't want to prioritize one of the two things, then they should do something balanced and move simultaneously between focusing on achievement and business. There is no reason for a club to say it can't do that, because they have people who have abilities in their respective fields and are not only managed by one person.
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Like it or not, this is always going to happen. Rich clubs will always be in front when they get a player. Especially in the Bundesliga, Borussia Dortmund are concerned with profits, actually if they want they are very capable of retaining their players, because financially they are actually fine and are not constrained by a situation which requires them to sell potential players. But that's not what they want, when they realize there is something very profitable when they sell players, they will not hesitate to sell them.
Who doesn't know Borussia Dortmund, and it's not just once or twice that they sold players to Bayern Munich, who are their main rivals in the Bundesliga.
In the new football modern era, money is everything and can change the history of one team for winning many tittles, regarding how faster development progress from Manchester City in Primer League since acquisition and has much money City won many tittle from domestic league until Champion League. Bundesliga has farmer league label because team with huge money is Bayern Munich only than 18 participants teams, I think need new investor for making Bundesliga keep competitive and Bayern Munich not dominance every season how easily winning domestic league tittle.

Indeed has any teams with business priority than keep compete to make Bayern Munich difficult winning domestic league, Dortmund and Leipzig are both team always sell their star player on every season to rival teams Bayern Munich. Its stop sell star player to rival teams seems another Bundesliga participants teams has chance for stopping Bayern Munich dominance in domestic league.

Dortmund is interested in making a profit, and Bayern Munich is always interested in winning trophies. That is the biggest difference between these two clubs. That’s why we see Bayern Munich winning the Bundesliga title year after year. This is probably the 11th time in a row they have done that. But Dortmund is not capable of doing something like that.

I don’t understand why clubs like Dortmund do not prioritize trophies over making a profit by selling players. If they wanted trophies, they could have earned a lot more money because a lot of good players would have been interested in them. But now any player with even a little bit of potential wants to leave Dortmund because he gets bigger and better offers from other clubs which are known to have a legacy.


It always surprises me when I see Dortmund fighting for a way to make huge profits from football rather than trophies, as other teams do. Yes, money is everything, but there are times when we need to put money aside and focus on the main goal, and right now Dortmund is always focusing on how to sell their star players and make money, which in my opinion is a bad idea for a team like Dortmund to be waiting for trophy for a long period of time due to there Performance and I hope they should change next coming year.

However, Bayern Munich also need these funds in my opinion, but when it comes to competitions like the Bundesliga, which they win year after year, Dortmund needs to change and retrain their players in order to win trophies in my opinion, and I believe this is the difference between Dortmund and Bayern Munich when we compare how both clubs are managed.
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Bayern Munich won another season in Bundesliga and it's not surprising for us anymore to see this team winning the title of the league anymore because the recent years we saw the only team racing for the title was Bayern Munich, however in this season Dortmund lost many chances to beat Bayern Munich and win the Bundesliga title after years to failing they could with the title after more than ten years but in the ned Dortmund failed to win the ttle while they could easily earn that achievement by just winning the last game against Mainz.

Although Bayern Munich won the title this season, they could not dominate the Bundesliga this season. Bayern Munich's performance was very erratic. And so at the start of the season, Union Berlin was at the top of the points table for a long time. And at the end of the season, the top spot in the table was occupied by Dortmund. But unfortunately, the Dortmund team could not win the title due to not being able to win in the last match of the season. Dortmund had a good chance of winning the title. Due to erratic performances, Dortmund could not win the title.
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Many things will change at bayern Munich due to the fact that a new trainer has been appointed in the last part of the competition. But could he turn this into a football machine again? It would be nice if Bayern could play football again at its old level, there was a time when they were so incredibly good that they were more than 20 points ahead of the number 2 in the league. We saw it coming a bit, as going into the winter break, this was already Bayern's worst halfway result in the last 10 years. Dortmund will not be able to win the title in the coming years, but Bayern will have to get things right first and that has not been done in a few weeks.
Bayern Munich has the chance to revitalise and recover its status as a football powerhouse with the hiring of a new coach. Change can be unsettling but it also offers the possibility for resurrection. Bayern has a long history of dominating the league and despite recent lapses it is important to keep in mind their past achievements. They may surely aim to play at their previous level again with the right direction and preparation. Even though Bayern lead over their rivals has shrunk it is still crucial to recognise that football is a constantly changing sport. Bayern must concentrate on their own resurgence before looking too far ahead despite the fact that Dortmund may not be title contenders right away. Bayern can undoubtedly return to the top with the correct strategy which calls for perseverance commitment and a clear vision.
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Like it or not, this is always going to happen. Rich clubs will always be in front when they get a player. Especially in the Bundesliga, Borussia Dortmund are concerned with profits, actually if they want they are very capable of retaining their players, because financially they are actually fine and are not constrained by a situation which requires them to sell potential players. But that's not what they want, when they realize there is something very profitable when they sell players, they will not hesitate to sell them.
Who doesn't know Borussia Dortmund, and it's not just once or twice that they sold players to Bayern Munich, who are their main rivals in the Bundesliga.
In the new football modern era, money is everything and can change the history of one team for winning many tittles, regarding how faster development progress from Manchester City in Primer League since acquisition and has much money City won many tittle from domestic league until Champion League. Bundesliga has farmer league label because team with huge money is Bayern Munich only than 18 participants teams, I think need new investor for making Bundesliga keep competitive and Bayern Munich not dominance every season how easily winning domestic league tittle.

Indeed has any teams with business priority than keep compete to make Bayern Munich difficult winning domestic league, Dortmund and Leipzig are both team always sell their star player on every season to rival teams Bayern Munich. Its stop sell star player to rival teams seems another Bundesliga participants teams has chance for stopping Bayern Munich dominance in domestic league.

Dortmund is interested in making a profit, and Bayern Munich is always interested in winning trophies. That is the biggest difference between these two clubs. That’s why we see Bayern Munich winning the Bundesliga title year after year. This is probably the 11th time in a row they have done that. But Dortmund is not capable of doing something like that.

I don’t understand why clubs like Dortmund do not prioritize trophies over making a profit by selling players. If they wanted trophies, they could have earned a lot more money because a lot of good players would have been interested in them. But now any player with even a little bit of potential wants to leave Dortmund because he gets bigger and better offers from other clubs which are known to have a legacy.

From some of these talks it is very clear that Borussia dortmund is only looking to profit from selling their best players and are already comfortable being runners up in this Bundesliga.
When in fact trophies will be more impressive than just profits will never give the best impression of the club.
If only Dortmund were able to compete with Bayern Munich and get first place it would definitely be very exciting with the new history that Dortmund could get but it was very disappointing that Dortmund always threw away their best chance at the end of the match.
Like I said yesterday, it's not only about winning, making money is part of it. And to be realistic, no one can underestimate Dortmund in Bundesliga, so if they are interested in making more money than winning, it's their choice but all this is still guesswork as I don't expect any club to be thinking of money-making alone. Also for the record, they tried so well this season, after all, they ended the season with the same points as Bayern Munich, only that Bayern got there earlier than them.

This season and many other seasons that Dortmund did not win were still spectacular, they always prove that they are a viable contender, and one day they shall win the trophy again.
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I really think Dortmund can dominate this even without the help of any business something or an arab wealthy man as you can see now Dortmund was close to being a champion but this is just my hint, Dortmund doesn't really want to be champion they likely want to improve players and sell they on a high price, or reasonable price, but right now Dortmund is in preparation on getting potential players aswell, right now there are rumored 2 Naby Keïta, from Liverpool FC, and Edson Álvarez from Ajax Amsterdam, and now that Jude Bellingham has been transferred to Real Madrid they will surely need a replacement,

I agree with that. Dortmund's vision isn't targeting to become champion in the Bundesliga mainly. It is just as you described. However I really wish Dortmund was also bought by a rich person or a group of rich people maybe. Because Bundesliga has been under the dominance of Bayern Munich for 12 seasons. This season was a hope to break this dominance but it didn't happen either. Dortmund just blew their chance in an unbelievable way in the final moments of the season.

This isn't a common thing to be seen in the Bundesliga. Who knows when we would see Bayern Munich this vulnerable again. If they had a real opponent to fight for the title regularly then it would have been more fun to follow the league for me.
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Thomas Tuchel's current position is indeed a little difficult to determine how Bayern Munich will continue to welcome this new season when Thomas Tuchel must be really active in the transfer market to get reliable players to strengthen the club and get Bayern Munich's dream.
But there are other things that put pressure on which players to replace and whether that will improve Bayern Munich's performance.
So Thomas Tuchel really has to be careful about making this decision because it really affects Bayern Munich's achievements.

Well indeed and I think that Bayern Munich is helping and asking Tuchel what to do, I really this they need each other to make this happen but if there are Rumor Transfer arrivals there is also a rumored Transfer departure like Lucas Hernández, that could go to Saint Paris Germain, and because of the recent incident with Leroy Sane, Sadio Mané is rumored to be departing Bayern Munich and may go to two teams Real Madrid and Ettifaq FC, the two teams that likely could sign Mane, Alphonso Davies that could also a target of Real Madrid, João Cancelo that could go to Arsenal FC, and Joshua Kimmich to FC Barcelona for me this players are crucial to be transfer to another team for Bayern Munich,


Dortmund's habit of spotting out talents, grooming and selling them to other clubs will leave them with no silverware. The really need to change their old habit if they want to contend for trophies.The way the English premier league is attracting a lot of interest, I just hope the bundesliga can attract such level of interest too. I would really like to see a wealthy business or arab buy one of these clubs, maybe Dortmund and pump a lot of money to give the club a fighting chance to rival Bayern Munich. Bayern have so much dominated the league... How can a club win the league for 7 consecutive times? sometimes I ask myself if they are the only club in the league. Things needs to change, I would like the league to be more attractive, competitive and unpredictable.


I really think Dortmund can dominate this even without the help of any business something or an arab wealthy man as you can see now Dortmund was close to being a champion but this is just my hint, Dortmund doesn't really want to be champion they likely want to improve players and sell they on a high price, or reasonable price, but right now Dortmund is in preparation on getting potential players aswell, right now there are rumored 2 Naby Keïta, from Liverpool FC, and Edson Álvarez from Ajax Amsterdam, and now that Jude Bellingham has been transferred to Real Madrid they will surely need a replacement,

The season also ended terribly for Schalke 04, because they seemed to have saved things for a while, but due to a defeat they were still dredged in the last round. A very big name, but I assume that we can see Schalke back in the Bundesliga soon. The difference in television money is also huge, not as big as in England, but it is the difference between having a stable bank account or going bankrupt with the association. Bayern is the only one that has had a very healthy bank account for years, despite the fact that they incur a lot of costs and are also spending a lot of money every year.

Schalke would likely need to just accept the fact that they are now in the 2nd division it really didn't go their way but it is a different story with VfL Bochum and Union Berlin that once in the 2nd Division now is getting stronger as the day passes, and now Hertha has been the one that have gone to the 2nd division now,
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Leipzig have lost Nkunku who is one of their important players to Chelsea now. He was the top scorer of the season in the Bundesliga together with Fullkrug. There are still Andre Silva and Timo Werner in the squad of course. This might be seen as a chance for them to be the main striker of the team. However I still have doubts about them for now.

Because they played in quite many games this season but the number of goals each of them scored is really low compared to the number of games they played. Leipzig need at least one of them to improve their finishing skills more to get ready for next season. This is important to keep their consistency in top 4.
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I'm pretty sure that next season Dortmund will still be much better than before and will also continue to compete to become champions with a strategy that might be slightly different from before.
For sure Dortmund will be doing that , and the last years they was getting more and more closer to Bayern Munich.
Maybe we will also see some nice good transfers of Dortmund and that they get some good Players.

I thought this season would be the season in which Bayern Munich's championship record would be broken, but what happened was the opposite,
I guess or i hope that we will see this happend in the coming season and i believe in Dortmund.
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Disagreeing here, mate. Football is a team game, not a one-man show. So, you can't hang Dortmund's performance all on Haaland. Sure, his move was a big-money call, but to say he alone would've won them the Bundesliga is wrong. Even with him, they didn't clinch the title. It's unfair to put their poor run all on his absence. Bayern's just been too good for years. Dortmund's slump? More about the team's shaky grit than missing one player.
I agree with you that football is a team game and cannot be pinned on the individual abilities of players, but with the presence of players who have good abilities it is hoped that they can contribute more to the game. Collectivity must be the main thing in this game, but it will be maximized if a player has good skills when processing round skin. So the ability of the players combined with good teamwork will make the strategy implemented more leverage.

Bayern Munich won another season in Bundesliga and it's not surprising for us anymore to see this team winning the title of the league anymore because the recent years we saw the only team racing for the title was Bayern Munich, however in this season Dortmund lost many chances to beat Bayern Munich and win the Bundesliga title after years to failing they could with the title after more than ten years but in the ned Dortmund failed to win the ttle while they could easily earn that achievement by just winning the last game against Mainz.
Borussia Dortmund's failure in their last game saw Bayern Munoich win the title for the fifth time in a row, and there's no doubt Borussia Dortmund have missed many of the chances that have come their way this season. I thought this season would be the season in which Bayern Munich's championship record would be broken, but what happened was the opposite, they succeeded in extending their championship record once again.
Apart from all that, there are many things that must be improved, be it from Bayern Munich or Borussia Dortmund because this season their weaknesses are so thick.
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