Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread - page 137.

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Quote from: irhact on October 24, 2024, 04:58:57 PM

Quote from: Hyphen(-) on October 24, 2024, 04:30:03 PM

Vincent Komoany is a good coach, he have talent of coaching, but he is yet to get the big team coaching mentality which was among the reasons he lost to Barcelona Yesterday, but there is still hope for Bayern Munich if they can win their remaining champions league matches, they can still make it to the round of 16.

He's not a good coach and not fit for the job of being the manager for Bayern Munich, the club is to big for him. He's a new manager that doesn't have any experience yet but only got favoured to become the coach of Bayern Munich. What has he achieved in his career as a coach that we should call him a good coach. He's below average and very soon the whole world will get to know how awful as a manager he's. Vincent Kompany should focus on the league as you said and forget about the champions league. He first lost to Aston villa and now losing to Barcelona that other Bayern Munich managers has been winning always in the champions league.

Vincent Kompany is not really good, that was proven in the match against Barcelona when Kompany still doesn't know how to deal with big opponents. I am not satisfied with coach Kompany's tactics. I think coach Kompany is "too naive" and does not have enough experience to lead the team, especially in big matches. We all know that Kompany is just Bayern's backup plan when it comes to choosing a coach. The decision to appoint an inexperienced strategist like Kompany as Bayern coach once caused fierce controversy.

Kompany will have no excuses. He is young. He must learn from these games. A defeat like that won't define Bayern's season. I know things are pretty bad for Kompany and his team. They will need to get better results in their next encounters to keep their hopes of progressing alive.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on October 24, 2024, 04:53:39 PM

A rather poor performance by the German clubs in the Champions League this week. Both Bayern and Borussia suffered high losses against Real and Barcelona respectively. [...]

It was a surprising lost as both Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund lost by a margin of 3 goals each. We can forget about Borussia Dortmund because they are playing away and their opponent is Real Madrid, the king of the Champions League. Bayern Munich is the only one that can't be forgotten, even though Barcelona scored a quick goal early in the match, they were able to quickly score a goal scored by Harry Kane. I didn't expect the result to be like that in the end.

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Quote from: irhact on October 24, 2024, 04:58:57 PM

Quote from: Hyphen(-) on October 24, 2024, 04:30:03 PM

Vincent Komoany is a good coach, he have talent of coaching, but he is yet to get the big team coaching mentality which was among the reasons he lost to Barcelona Yesterday, but there is still hope for Bayern Munich if they can win their remaining champions league matches, they can still make it to the round of 16.

He's not a good coach and not fit for the job of being the manager for Bayern Munich, the club is to big for him. He's a new manager that doesn't have any experience yet but only got favoured to become the coach of Bayern Munich. What has he achieved in his career as a coach that we should call him a good coach. He's below average and very soon the whole world will get to know how awful as a manager he's. Vincent Kompany should focus on the league as you said and forget about the champions league. He first lost to Aston villa and now losing to Barcelona that other Bayern Munich managers has been winning always in the champions league.

Bayern Munich didn't hire an experienced coach and they paid for it against Barcelona otherwise I think Bayern Munich could never have lost this match normally forget they have got strong forwards like Kane in this team and this player could have had a much better performance because of the weak defender's and young palyers they have in Barcelona and this could be a good chance for them but Kompany didn't use this chance.
I think now Kompany should start finding the weakness in this game they lost against Barcelona and get the team ready for the next Bundesliga match.

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Quote from: tusandii on October 24, 2024, 10:49:18 PM

Dortmund thought a 2-goal advantage could make them win the match but they didn't realize that they were facing the best club in the Champions League so even though Dortmund was 2 goals ahead it didn't make the Real Madrid players' mentality weak they had indeed been trained to have a strong mentality in any difficult situation until finally Real Madrid was able to make an extraordinary comeback and make Dortmund lose control in the second half.
The defeat against Real Madrid was actually not a surprise to me because initially I also thought Dortmund would be defeated again like when they met in the UCL final last season.

Do you believe that Madrid in the first half was only trying to assess Dortmund strategy?
Ancelotti strategy style and Madrid tactics always take advantage of opportunities in the second half and in the first half Madrid always sees strategies and opportunities that can be destroyed. Just look at how Madrid appearance in the first half looked ordinary but in the second half Madrid crushed Dortmund weakness with a long pass that made it difficult for Dortmund defense to block it.
Most people say the same thing if Madrid victory is guaranteed because in the history of the two teams meetings, Madrid has always been able to get satisfactory results.

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Quote from: mamesso on October 24, 2024, 10:39:08 PM

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Having just three points out of possible nine points is not a good performance for big team like Bayern Munich in the Champions League that they have good reputation and have been among the best teams in the competition.
4-1 thrashing defeat against Barcelona yesterday should have give them hint for leaving the Champions League for the champions that have experienced coaches and players, by focusing on the German Bundesliga so that they can give enough points gap to Dortmund and Leverkusen that might be obstacles for them in the Bundesliga title race.
Vincent Komoany is a good coach, he have talent of coaching, but he is yet to get the big team coaching mentality which was among the reasons he lost to Barcelona Yesterday, but there is still hope for Bayern Munich if they can win their remaining champions league matches, they can still make it to the round of 16.

Munich are under pressure after only managing to pick up 3 points from a possible 9 in the 10 games played. Kompany is under increasing pressure as his work gets harder in the next match, winning is a non-negotiable target in order to open up the opportunity to qualify for the knock-out round.
The situation that occurred when Kompany handled Bayern Munich in the Champions League:

Bayern lost two consecutive UCL group stage games for the first time since 2009.
Conceded 4 goals in a UCL group stage match for the first time in history.
Bayern Lose to Barcelona for the First Time Since 2015.

It is unexpected that Bayern Munich will experience a stressful situation. for a team that is used to winning almost all domestic matches, not to mention their greatness in European competitions. But how could they lose consecutively in Champions League matches.

and this is a sign that they have to work hard again, especially in the back line; their defense looks fragile at the moment. Kompany needs to find a solution to close the gap in his back line and make the team's attack sharper, if they want to return to winning ways.

and we can't lie that with extensive experience on the European stage, Bayern Munich has a strong dominance because they are a quality team. In the upcoming match, getting three points of victory is a must. Therefore, Bayern Munich must be able to improve and balance between defense and attack. In this way, Bayern can improve its position and once again appear stronger in European competitions.

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on October 24, 2024, 08:17:44 PM

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That’s all about football so the Dortmund know supposed surprising you, because even when the match was begin and the way I saw Dortmund performance I see that their first 2 goals as a luck goals they only manage to dominated the first half goals, and that’s why in the second half they didn’t have much capacity to attack the Real Madrid as they way there able hold their Real Madrid in the first half. That’s how the Dortmund performances supposed be in the second, because their have use all the capacity and opportunities in the half.

Dortmund didn't learn from some experiences when facing Real Madrid so they didn't imagine that there would be an extraordinary comeback from Ancelotti's men. I think Dortmund's two goals can't be called lucky because they were indeed good cooperation to create opportunities to score goals, but they were careless and too busy chasing additional goals that they forgot to strengthen their defense.

Dortmund were unable to maintain their lead in the second half and they allowed Real Madrid to play the ball wider in attack so what happened was Dortmund lost the victory they had previously achieved.

Dortmund thought a 2-goal advantage could make them win the match but they didn't realize that they were facing the best club in the Champions League so even though Dortmund was 2 goals ahead it didn't make the Real Madrid players' mentality weak they had indeed been trained to have a strong mentality in any difficult situation until finally Real Madrid was able to make an extraordinary comeback and make Dortmund lose control in the second half.
The defeat against Real Madrid was actually not a surprise to me because initially I also thought Dortmund would be defeated again like when they met in the UCL final last season.

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Quote from: Hyphen(-) on October 24, 2024, 04:30:03 PM

Quote from: Weawant on October 24, 2024, 04:08:38 PM

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Having just three points out of possible nine points is not a good performance for big team like Bayern Munich in the Champions League that they have good reputation and have been among the best teams in the competition.
4-1 thrashing defeat against Barcelona yesterday should have give them hint for leaving the Champions League for the champions that have experienced coaches and players, by focusing on the German Bundesliga so that they can give enough points gap to Dortmund and Leverkusen that might be obstacles for them in the Bundesliga title race.
Vincent Komoany is a good coach, he have talent of coaching, but he is yet to get the big team coaching mentality which was among the reasons he lost to Barcelona Yesterday, but there is still hope for Bayern Munich if they can win their remaining champions league matches, they can still make it to the round of 16.

Munich are under pressure after only managing to pick up 3 points from a possible 9 in the 10 games played. Kompany is under increasing pressure as his work gets harder in the next match, winning is a non-negotiable target in order to open up the opportunity to qualify for the knock-out round.
The situation that occurred when Kompany handled Bayern Munich in the Champions League:

Bayern lost two consecutive UCL group stage games for the first time since 2009.
Conceded 4 goals in a UCL group stage match for the first time in history.
Bayern Lose to Barcelona for the First Time Since 2015.

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Quote from: AYOBA on October 24, 2024, 04:56:42 PM

That’s all about football so the Dortmund know supposed surprising you, because even when the match was begin and the way I saw Dortmund performance I see that their first 2 goals as a luck goals they only manage to dominated the first half goals, and that’s why in the second half they didn’t have much capacity to attack the Real Madrid as they way there able hold their Real Madrid in the first half. That’s how the Dortmund performances supposed be in the second, because their have use all the capacity and opportunities in the half.

Dortmund didn't learn from some experiences when facing Real Madrid so they didn't imagine that there would be an extraordinary comeback from Ancelotti's men. I think Dortmund's two goals can't be called lucky because they were indeed good cooperation to create opportunities to score goals, but they were careless and too busy chasing additional goals that they forgot to strengthen their defense.

Dortmund were unable to maintain their lead in the second half and they allowed Real Madrid to play the ball wider in attack so what happened was Dortmund lost the victory they had previously achieved.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on October 24, 2024, 04:53:39 PM

A rather poor performance by the German clubs in the Champions League this week. Both Bayern and Borussia suffered high losses against Real and Barcelona respectively. Leverkusen got back from France with only one point after a 1-1 draw with Brest.
On a positive note, Stuttgart finally won their first UCL game this season, surprisingly beating Juventus 1-0 in an away game. It was not an easy win though, and the only goal was scored in 90+2minute, following a red card for Juventus player. Hopefully, that win will help them unblock their potential. They can really play decent football and could go far in the competition. Their major problem is converting chances into goals. They could've easily scored 3 or 4 goals on Tue and I don't even mean the missed penalty.

As for the Europa League, the only German team in that tournament, Eintracht Frankfurt, defeated Latvian RFS 1-0 and moved to the 6th place in the table.

Speaking about Bundesliga clubs in Champion league i think it is a coincidence that in Champion league Bayern Munich and Dortmund has been met the teams from Laliga Barcelona and Real Madrid at the same times but unfortunately both teams has been lost with big scores especially for Dortmund that they can leading 2 goals in the first half but Dortmund was unable to managed their consistency and they have to conceded 5 goals in that match

Besides them i have been notice about Leipzig performance too because yesterday they lost from Liverpool indeed Leipzig only lost with slim score from Liverpool but this result is makes them suffering 3 losing streak in Champion league and i have to says Leipzig was done in this competition and i think they won't be reach to top 24 at the end of League phase

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Quote from: Hanadawa on October 22, 2024, 09:10:35 AM

I agree with you. Both are great strikers and are still productive even though they are in their 30s. Both have great finishing ability and I don't think we need to compare them. Lewi played in Munich's glory days and managed to dominate the Bundesliga. Kane is unlucky because currently Munich does not only have Dortmund as their rival. RB Leipzig and Leverkusen are also solid and even Munich and Kane failed to win a trophy last season. Maybe the only difference between the two is that Lewandowski has a trophy with Munich. I hope Kane will be dominant this season and can get the first trophy in his career.

Well, given the way things are going, it's obvious that every time we see the games, we could say that the luck factor exists, and obviously Kane doesn't come out very well, some call him "dumb", but that's something I don't see well, I think that the player lacks a bit of luck, but technically, in everything he is very good, but it's something that can be fixed , Bayern's players are very good, they can help him score the goals, it doesn't matter that he is the one who scores the goals, at Bayern they need that striker at a thousand miles an hour.

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Quote from: Hyphen(-) on October 24, 2024, 04:30:03 PM

Vincent Komoany is a good coach, he have talent of coaching, but he is yet to get the big team coaching mentality which was among the reasons he lost to Barcelona Yesterday, but there is still hope for Bayern Munich if they can win their remaining champions league matches, they can still make it to the round of 16.

He's not a good coach and not fit for the job of being the manager for Bayern Munich, the club is to big for him. He's a new manager that doesn't have any experience yet but only got favoured to become the coach of Bayern Munich. What has he achieved in his career as a coach that we should call him a good coach. He's below average and very soon the whole world will get to know how awful as a manager he's. Vincent Kompany should focus on the league as you said and forget about the champions league. He first lost to Aston villa and now losing to Barcelona that other Bayern Munich managers has been winning always in the champions league.

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Quote from: Dzwaafu11 on October 24, 2024, 02:04:03 PM

Dortmund did a very surprising thing yesterday after they were leading with 2 goals ahead of Real Madrid. I was hoping that even if they lose to Real Madrid, the score will not be much like this, but they failed to maintain their performance, and that is how Real Madrid scored 5 goals. Till the last minute of the game, although I know that Real Madrid is very good in performance, the goals were too much for Dortmund.

That’s all about football so the Dortmund know supposed surprising you, because even when the match was begin and the way I saw Dortmund performance I see that their first 2 goals as a luck goals they only manage to dominated the first half goals, and that’s why in the second half they didn’t have much capacity to attack the Real Madrid as they way there able hold their Real Madrid in the first half. That’s how the Dortmund performances supposed be in the second, because their have use all the capacity and opportunities in the half.

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A rather poor performance by the German clubs in the Champions League this week. Both Bayern and Borussia suffered high losses against Real and Barcelona respectively. Leverkusen got back from France with only one point after a 1-1 draw with Brest.
On a positive note, Stuttgart finally won their first UCL game this season, surprisingly beating Juventus 1-0 in an away game. It was not an easy win though, and the only goal was scored in 90+2minute, following a red card for Juventus player. Hopefully, that win will help them unblock their potential. They can really play decent football and could go far in the competition. Their major problem is converting chances into goals. They could've easily scored 3 or 4 goals on Tue and I don't even mean the missed penalty.

As for the Europa League, the only German team in that tournament, Eintracht Frankfurt, defeated Latvian RFS 1-0 and moved to the 6th place in the table.

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We can't blame Dortmund for this result at all. Real Madrid is known for great comebacks and even when they do not have a good performance at the start of the game they will play in a different way in the second half just like what you saw against Dortmund from Real Madrid.
Dortmund had a perfect start and they could even beat Real Madrid. But you should understand playing against Real Madrid is not the same as the other teams and that's why I still think Dortmund was having a good performance.
The only mistake was from their coach Nuri Şahin when he used Waldemar Anton instead of Bynoe-Gittens.

It's a very poor performance from the German side, they had already won the first half with a clean sheet and everyone was thinking they have taken revenge for last season's finals and all of a sudden they slept and allowed Real Madrid back into the game and still went on to beat them with a three goal margin, it goes a long way to show how unsettled Dortmund were last night against real madrid. I think the coach should be blamed for the outcome of this game because he didn't know what to do when he saw that Real Madrid were getting back at them in the second half of the game.

Borussia Dortmund had gained a huge advantage when they went 2-0 up against Real Madrid and ended the first half, but it was a huge disappointment that they didn't continue this. I know that the German league has enough quality defensively, but they couldn't apply it in this match. Real Madrid scored goals with individual talents and finished the match with 5 goals in 30 minutes. It was a nightmare night for Borussia.

It was absolute nightmare, a shocking 30 minutes of play in the second half thay produced historical comeback goals and with each goal scored Dortmund were reducing in confidence and that was part of what brought about the hat-trick from Vini jnr.

You don't get too comfortable when playing with a talented filled squad as Real Madrid, even when you're having the lead in the game you have got to intensify your play as though you're the losing side till the final whistle because, they're always more than ready to cause an upset in their games especially in the champions league competition level. I think the show they pulled would definitely send a strong message to other team's like Manchester city, Barcelona and Liverpool that they're still in the business of winning the trophy back to back.

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Quote from: Weawant on October 24, 2024, 04:08:38 PM

Most definitely winning the bundesliga games would be the only best considering Bayern Munich can and will be able to get after such epic loss against Barcelona, they could rethink of taking their attention to the German bundesliga because it feels like they will do her there and probably secure a better chance to getting a trophy this season than they would at the champions League where the computer is looking rather too tough on them at the moment. In this case home advantage isn't just all that Barcelona has over Bayern Munich.

Having just three points out of possible nine points is not a good performance for big team like Bayern Munich in the Champions League that they have good reputation and have been among the best teams in the competition.
4-1 thrashing defeat against Barcelona yesterday should have give them hint for leaving the Champions League for the champions that have experienced coaches and players, by focusing on the German Bundesliga so that they can give enough points gap to Dortmund and Leverkusen that might be obstacles for them in the Bundesliga title race.
Vincent Komoany is a good coach, he have talent of coaching, but he is yet to get the big team coaching mentality which was among the reasons he lost to Barcelona Yesterday, but there is still hope for Bayern Munich if they can win their remaining champions league matches, they can still make it to the round of 16.

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Quote from: hahay on October 24, 2024, 03:38:01 PM

I personally can't say Dortmund is bad because at least Dortmund has managed to score two goals in the first half, even though in the end Dortmund still lost. Honestly, I'm also quite disappointed with this result but yes,I can only admit that Real Madrid has a very good champion mentality, so it's no wonder that Real Madrid is also the team that has won the most Champions League trophies, because Real Madrid has a verygood champion mentality that other teams don't have. But indeed, Dortmund should have been able to hold Real Madrid to a draw or atleast lose by only one goal, and not lose that big, because even worse, Dortmund's defeat occurred with a comeback made by Real Madrid.

The truth is that Borussia Dortmund played against the strongest team in the Champions league history but my only annoyance was how porous Dortmund became in the second half and lost woefully in a match they were leading by 2:0 in halftime. On the other hand, Real Madrid could not have afford losing to Borussia Dortmund because they just lost to Lille in their last champions league game before they played against Dortmund so there was no way Real Madrid would have lost that match because it would have really affected them in determining their possibility of qualifying in the next round. When it comes to the champions league, Madrid always find their way around because i could remember last season when Bayern munich was leading them by 2 goals only to get to the die minutes and Rodrygo scored a brace and equalized the goals so that is to show that the Madrid team is always relentless.

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Quote from: Farma on October 24, 2024, 12:15:12 AM

And in my opinion Kompany does not deserve to be in a big team like Munich he lacks experience and so on in his strategy is also not effective in the Champions they can only be in the Bundesliga but I put too high hopes on Kompany but now after this big match I think he is still very lacking on the coach's bench.

You have a point, Kompany has talent but he rushed into managing a big team which is the mistake most young managers do don’t understand that they need time to fully develop and gain more exposure and experience to manage a big team and that can only happen after several years coaching a small team and repeatedly succeeding every season. It has shown that Kompany is not yet experienced for the Champions League despite having such quality players they were completely outplayed by Barcelona a team that consist mainly of young teenage players.

I also don’t think he will go far in the champions league but he may win the Bundesliga and other domestic competitions. I believe with time he will develop into a better manager and maybe by next season they can compete for the Champions League trophy.

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Quote from: tusandii on October 23, 2024, 11:51:37 PM

Bayern Munich has suffered 2 defeats in the Champions League in the 3 matches they have played, the last time they suffered a crushing defeat against Barcelona, even conceding in the early minutes of the match, precisely in just 1 minute Barcelona had broken into Bayern's goal, isn't that very surprising? even I think when everyone was not ready to watch the match but Barca had surprised with that quick goal. Although Bayern Munich were able to equalize in the 18th minute through a goal scored by Harry Kane but Barcelona replied with a 2nd goal in the 36th minute created by Lewandowski and only 9 minutes later Raphael created the 3rd goal and finally in the first half Barcelona was 3 goals ahead and in the second half Barcelona really did not give Bayern Munich a gap in this match and Bayern had to swallow that defeat.

Yes, you are right. That was easy defeat by Barcelona team and Bayern Munich could not give good response in this match. The shots of Bayern Munich were not more and these were 11 and only 3 were on target . And possession percentage was 61 percent by Bayern Munich football team. The possession percentage of Barcelona was not excellent but they won the match easily by high margin. If we will focus on the passes then we will be in the favor of Bayern Munich because they gave 565 passes and these were not less and the passes of Barcelona were less . Many criterias were in the side Bayern Munich team but that team could not successful to do well in this match.

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Quote from: hyudien on October 24, 2024, 03:52:30 PM

RB Leipzig this season has been quietly sweeping and has swept 7 matches without defeat. Now the position of 17 points is the same as Bayern Munich, and week 8 Leipzig will face Feirburg who also have surprising performances. So to get 3 points will be quite difficult for Leipzig, both teams are very unnoticed by both Bayern Munich and Leverkusen who are proving who can win the trophy. My two cents Leipzig and Feirburg can be dark horses in the Bundesliga this season.

Bundesliga this season is somehow not predictable, due to the weakness we are seeing in those team that we all have hope on. Because Bayern Munich are not in a good form now to be sincere, they have some certain weaknesses most especially in their defense, even though I know they are doing the best they can but still they have to focus more harder to get a good performance. But talking about trophy then I can say, because for now I don’t see potential in any of them.

Furthermore, on the game of Leipzig, I don’t think they will not be able to gain that 3 points in their nest game, because their performance is still good, and they will try to see if they can make it to the top of the table, knowing that with more 3 points there points will be 20, that will make them the top. And if there is not any pressure in any of those teams like bayer Leverkusen or Bayern Munich then I Think Leipzig will be our next team to have a slight hope in to take the trophy, because they are actually trying in this season.

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Quote from: RaltcoinsB on October 24, 2024, 02:17:10 PM

Bayern Munich will want to win all their Bundesliga matches to forget their defeat against Barcelona. They really caused a huge disappointment in the Barcelona match. Although it was played in Spain, no one expected Barcelona to win by this much. Bayern Munich suffered a huge morale loss with this defeat. They should not reflect this on the Bundesliga.

Most definitely winning the bundesliga games would be the only best considering Bayern Munich can and will be able to get after such epic loss against Barcelona, they could rethink of taking their attention to the German bundesliga because it feels like they will do her there and probably secure a better chance to getting a trophy this season than they would at the champions League where the computer is looking rather too tough on them at the moment. In this case home advantage isn't just all that Barcelona has over Bayern Munich.

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