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Quote from: Franctoshi on September 21, 2022, 06:25:35 PM

Every club has a season of their down time, and this season could be Bayern Munich down time, but however not until the season is finished. I do still believe at a point they will get up from their slumber, but literally they need to start getting things going in the right, hence it could be late for them and they might even find it very difficult and struggle to qualify for next season champions league game competition if they continue with this hands and keep going downwards in their league table.

Agreed, it's very painful to see that how bad the performance from bayern in last matches of bundesliga. I meant if it's not going straight with the performance of bayern in the champion league. This may become a big question for all of fans. If bayern will be getting another draw or lose again and the chance to be the top 4 is become even very small than before. Bayern needs to be qualified for the next champion league if that was failed in this season.

Concerns are rising even voices are still not loud because of their amazing performance in Champions League, but their performance in Bundesliga is surely having poor time and peoples are feeling departure of Robert Lewandowski having big impact but as we can watch they are doing good sadly they are fail to convert their chances which is surely a problem but as Coach saying he has faith in new players, and they could be on target in next few matches as things are under development.

Sadio Mané is surely quality player and done good job in past but right now he is having issues which is surely going to solve by time, and we will have good changes in coming weeks after International break but if things are not going to settle then surely we will have change in coach which is Thomas Tuchel and this is going to be good for them as they are serious looking for command in league.

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Quote from: bct_ail on September 22, 2022, 07:35:55 AM

No. Of course they do not only have problems with the defensive. But what I meant is that we can not take the departure from Lewandowski as the reason for lost games. Of course goals have to be scored. But if the defence has problems it is easier for the opponent to block the offensive and overcome the defence. It would be strange to always win with 4:3, 5:4 and so on. Cheesy

Yes, that's what we saw today, they have gaps that the opponent can use to score goals. It's true that they can win games by scoring a lot of goals, but they also concede a lot of goals, that's a problem. Because they will not score many goals in every game, because luck must also be considered.
Now they have two problems, namely defense and goal productivity. Even though they scored a lot of goals early in the league, it was not enough as they needed goals to win every game.

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Quote from: Docnaster on September 22, 2022, 02:44:14 AM

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It's not just about having quality players at Bayern Munich, it's also about more games yet to be played this season so Bayern Munich in general still has a chance to catch up with some of the teams that are already top of the table at this point. After all, the number of points Bayern Munich has with several teams in the standings at this time is not so much that it is still easier for Bayern Munich to catch up.

Bayern Munich wi catch up and also overtake the clubs that are ahead of them in the table. It is not difficult. Why I said so is that those clubs are not much threat, they can win Bayern today and get bitten by another club tomorrow. If Bayer had had an opponent club who can go 11 matches unbeaten, they would have found it difficult to return to top. But as it stands now, in the next 5 matches, everything will re-stablize for Bayern Munich.

It is not difficult for Bayern Munich to catch up with 5 points behind Union Berlin who are in first place in the Bundesliga. Munich need a few games to return to the top of the standings, Bayern Munich will close the first half with the status as leader of the standings.
Bayern Munich will not fall too deep after the defeat to Augsburg, they will try to get back up against Leverkusen. As a team that always dominates the Bundesliga, Bayern Munich will try to perform optimally after dropping a few points, Nagelsmann will make Munich appear optimal in the next match.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on September 21, 2022, 10:07:20 PM

I'm sure Bayern Munich is very easy to do again to score Champions League champions, because they have quality players of course wins are easy to achieve, but at the moment they are not enthusiastic and prefer to play casually, and at the end of the game Bayern Munich will bounce back and make many opponents scared.

I guess its not about enthusiastic and that they play casually at the moment , the other teams making really a big effort when they playing against Bayern Munich.
Also Munich maybe struggling a bit of the lot of games they have right now and that they focus more on the Champions League as on the League.
Nobody has expected that they after the 3 draws will lose there game against Augsburg.

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A few posts above there was a discussion about whether Robert Lewandowski departure had an impact. Of course, every departure has an impact for a team. That is also the case at work. When someone leaves the job we do not find a 1:1 replacement. But I do not think that is the question or the problem here. The problem is in the defence. They lost because goals were scored against them. So the focus from Bayern should be the defence.

I agree that Lewandowski's departure has had an impact (whether it's bad or not). But I don't agree that they only have defensive problems, because when their defense is good but they can't score it means they won't win the game. I said they played well, it was just that they had problems with finishing, that's what I saw. If they had a good finish, when they conceded one goal and created two, it would have been a win for them.

No. Of course they do not only have problems with the defensive. But what I meant is that we can not take the departure from Lewandowski as the reason for lost games. Of course goals have to be scored. But if the defence has problems it is easier for the opponent to block the offensive and overcome the defence. It would be strange to always win with 4:3, 5:4 and so on. Cheesy

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Quote from: sana54210 on September 21, 2022, 11:14:01 AM

That's mainly because they are lacking a striker like Lewandowski and they were so used to him finishing those positions. He scored 40 goals a year just on bundesliga, add in UCL and the cup games as well, that dude had 50 goals a year every year for them, and that meant that it would be easy for them to score, get it to a point and then give it to lewandowski so he could score.

Nowadays, they do not have him, and they still come to a point but then they are lacking that finishing, nobody in the team has it as good as Lewa did and that is the problem. They will adjust and start scoring too, but it will take time to get that responsibility distributed to everyone.

Perhaps there are two options here, either Mane will adapt and start scoring as much as Lewandowski (although he is used to a different model of play), or all players from attacking line, will score a little bit every one. It seems that Negelsmann himself is still in search of optimal tactics for Bayern, although by this time it would be time to decide.

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Quote from: bekti3 on September 22, 2022, 04:36:24 AM

It's been busy the last few weeks when Mane left and was replaced by Mane but it was a natural thing because, as you said, every departure, especially for a player who has always been the focus of a club, will definitely have an impact and maybe with Bayern's current condition it's not impossible. some will think that this was the wrong decision to sell Lewandowski.

The Bayern Munich party who chose to sell Lewandowski was not a unilateral decision from his team, but also the decision of Lewandowski himself who no longer wanted to stay at Bayern Munich for this season. So the deal to sell him to Barcelona is a good thing and it's not wrong at all because Bayern Munich can still get good results this season if they are able to play consistently in every game they have left.

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Quote from: bct_ail on September 22, 2022, 02:44:25 AM

A few posts above there was a discussion about whether Robert Lewandowski departure had an impact. Of course, every departure has an impact for a team. That is also the case at work. When someone leaves the job we do not find a 1:1 replacement. But I do not think that is the question or the problem here. The problem is in the defence. They lost because goals were scored against them. So the focus from Bayern should be the defence.

Based on Bayern's results - they are not that bad, especially the beginning of the season was crazy when it became clear that they can score goals even without Robert Lewandowski... Now after such a great start Bayern have slowed down a bit because they also have to play in Champions League... But I still think they are in great shape!

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Quote from: bct_ail on September 22, 2022, 02:44:25 AM

A few posts above there was a discussion about whether Robert Lewandowski departure had an impact. Of course, every departure has an impact for a team. That is also the case at work. When someone leaves the job we do not find a 1:1 replacement. But I do not think that is the question or the problem here. The problem is in the defence. They lost because goals were scored against them. So the focus from Bayern should be the defence.

It's been busy the last few weeks when Mane left and was replaced by Mane but it was a natural thing because, as you said, every departure, especially for a player who has always been the focus of a club, will definitely have an impact and maybe with Bayern's current condition it's not impossible. some will think that this was the wrong decision to sell Lewandowski.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on September 22, 2022, 04:20:29 AM

Quote from: bct_ail on September 22, 2022, 02:44:25 AM

A few posts above there was a discussion about whether Robert Lewandowski departure had an impact. Of course, every departure has an impact for a team. That is also the case at work. When someone leaves the job we do not find a 1:1 replacement. But I do not think that is the question or the problem here. The problem is in the defence. They lost because goals were scored against them. So the focus from Bayern should be the defence.

I agree that Lewandowski's departure has had an impact (whether it's bad or not). But I don't agree that they only have defensive problems, because when their defense is good but they can't score it means they won't win the game. I said they played well, it was just that they had problems with finishing, that's what I saw. If they had a good finish, when they conceded one goal and created two, it would have been a win for them.

It's true, Munich played well, but it looks like something went wrong up front against a team with a strong defense. none of the Munich forwards have the initiative and can unlock it. when it comes to a deadlock, of course, Munich will be very frustrated when there are many chances but don't produce goals. when they have a lot of possession but can't give a good pass. Munich must evaluate its squad.

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Quote from: bct_ail on September 22, 2022, 02:44:25 AM

A few posts above there was a discussion about whether Robert Lewandowski departure had an impact. Of course, every departure has an impact for a team. That is also the case at work. When someone leaves the job we do not find a 1:1 replacement. But I do not think that is the question or the problem here. The problem is in the defence. They lost because goals were scored against them. So the focus from Bayern should be the defence.

I agree that Lewandowski's departure has had an impact (whether it's bad or not). But I don't agree that they only have defensive problems, because when their defense is good but they can't score it means they won't win the game. I said they played well, it was just that they had problems with finishing, that's what I saw. If they had a good finish, when they conceded one goal and created two, it would have been a win for them.

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Quote from: Docnaster on September 22, 2022, 02:44:14 AM

Bayern Munich wi catch up and also overtake the clubs that are ahead of them in the table. It is not difficult. Why I said so is that those clubs are not much threat, they can win Bayern today and get bitten by another club tomorrow. If Bayer had had an opponent club who can go 11 matches unbeaten, they would have found it difficult to return to top. But as it stands now, in the next 5 matches, everything will re-stablize for Bayern Munich.

To be sure, Bayern Munich will find it difficult to catch up with the points left behind. moreover, currently the difference in points between Union Berlin and Bayern Munich is quite a lot. Union Berlin has 17 points and Munich only has 12 points, it seems to catch up to five points difference is not easy at all. what's more, Union Berlin currently has an unbeaten record in seven matches in the Bundesliga, this makes the Bundesliga more competitive.

As for Bayern Munich, we have no doubt that Bayern Munich can return to their best form. however at the moment, they are on a downward trend and it is certain that Nagelsmann and his squad will need time to return to the highest rankings in the Bundesliga.

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A few posts above there was a discussion about whether Robert Lewandowski departure had an impact. Of course, every departure has an impact for a team. That is also the case at work. When someone leaves the job we do not find a 1:1 replacement. But I do not think that is the question or the problem here. The problem is in the defence. They lost because goals were scored against them. So the focus from Bayern should be the defence.

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Quote from: Davian144 on September 22, 2022, 02:11:36 AM

Quote from: TopT3ns on September 21, 2022, 10:07:20 PM

I'm sure Bayern Munich is very easy to do again to score Champions League champions, because they have quality players of course wins are easy to achieve, but at the moment they are not enthusiastic and prefer to play casually, and at the end of the game Bayern Munich will bounce back and make many opponents scared.

It's not just about having quality players at Bayern Munich, it's also about more games yet to be played this season so Bayern Munich in general still has a chance to catch up with some of the teams that are already top of the table at this point. After all, the number of points Bayern Munich has with several teams in the standings at this time is not so much that it is still easier for Bayern Munich to catch up.

Bayern Munich wi catch up and also overtake the clubs that are ahead of them in the table. It is not difficult. Why I said so is that those clubs are not much threat, they can win Bayern today and get bitten by another club tomorrow. If Bayer had had an opponent club who can go 11 matches unbeaten, they would have found it difficult to return to top. But as it stands now, in the next 5 matches, everything will re-stablize for Bayern Munich.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on September 21, 2022, 10:07:20 PM

I'm sure Bayern Munich is very easy to do again to score Champions League champions, because they have quality players of course wins are easy to achieve, but at the moment they are not enthusiastic and prefer to play casually, and at the end of the game Bayern Munich will bounce back and make many opponents scared.

It's not just about having quality players at Bayern Munich, it's also about more games yet to be played this season so Bayern Munich in general still has a chance to catch up with some of the teams that are already top of the table at this point. After all, the number of points Bayern Munich has with several teams in the standings at this time is not so much that it is still easier for Bayern Munich to catch up.

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Quote from: wiss19 on September 21, 2022, 01:08:21 PM

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Moreover, rumors have circulated about Nagelsmann who will be sacked and a strong candidate to replace him is Tuchel, if this issue becomes a reality then of course Bayern Munich will come back strong and dominate the Bundesliga again. Also, if it is true that Tuchel will replace Nagelsmann immediately, then Bayern Munich will be a team that is a strong candidate to win the title also in the Champions League. But if you say Bayern Munich's performance because of Mane it is a mistake, because Mane is a new player here and Mane is not to blame for Bayern Munich's decline.

No doubt right now Bayern Munich is facing one of the worst time with their performance even their players are creating chances, but sadly they are fail to convert them into goals which is surely an issue right now specially with Sadio Mané which is a quality player but sadly right now not adjusting in their system but still have good back from coach Nagelsmann and management which feel he can do much better in coming weeks but right now another rumor is talk of the town with Thomas Tuchel who is now sacked by Chelsea is going to be favorite for this job even right now Bayern Munich management is not feeling, but rumors can do their work and things could be changed after international break.

After this break until start of the world cup we have tough time if Nagelsmann able to change current situation into positive then surely it's not problem otherwise most chances he is going to lose his job for Thomas Tuchel.

Anyway Bayern Munich by having good management then of course they will always try to continue to dominate the Bundesliga, unless they do not have a healthy management then they are difficult to become the strongest team. So, it's not something difficult for them to recruit a new coach to replace Nagelsmann and it's just, maybe they still have faith in Nagelsmann until they still give time for Nagelsmann to change this situation. But if Nagelsmann fails in that time frame then of course, Bayern Munich will get a new coach maybe before entering the second half of the season.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on September 21, 2022, 06:25:35 PM

Every club has a season of their down time, and this season could be Bayern Munich down time, but however not until the season is finished. I do still believe at a point they will get up from their slumber, but literally they need to start getting things going in the right, hence it could be late for them and they might even find it very difficult and struggle to qualify for next season champions league game competition if they continue with this hands and keep going downwards in their league table.

Agreed, it's very painful to see that how bad the performance from bayern in last matches of bundesliga. I meant if it's not going straight with the performance of bayern in the champion league. This may become a big question for all of fans. If bayern will be getting another draw or lose again and the chance to be the top 4 is become even very small than before. Bayern needs to be qualified for the next champion league if that was failed in this season.

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Quote from: posi on September 21, 2022, 09:26:29 AM

At the moment, no team's performance is stable except for Union Berlin. Leverkusen and Leipzig are worst off. Leverkusen are now closest to the relegation zone. On the other hand, Leipzig managed to score only 8 points with 7 mats. As all the teams have made internal changes to their squads, the performances of all the teams have been somewhat erratic. Hopefully we will see stable performances from the teams in a few days.
Union Berlin, Dortmund and Freiburg will battle it out with Bayern Munich for the title this season. It seems that the road to the title this season will not be easy for Bayern Munich.

Yes, I agree, but 1 thing is for certain we can not assume this will be permanent because I witnessed this in the 2nd division last season, SSV Jahn Regensburg is doing fine during matchday 1 up to matchday 9 but it all shifted when Werder Bremen and Schalke have put a pace on their play to catch up to the standings, I think it could be the same in the 1st division that those teams were just waiting for a good opportunity to strike back, but apparently right now they are struggling to perform well,

Quote from: sana54210 on September 21, 2022, 11:14:01 AM

That's mainly because they are lacking a striker like Lewandowski and they were so used to him finishing those positions. He scored 40 goals a year just on bundesliga, add in UCL and the cup games as well, that dude had 50 goals a year every year for them, and that meant that it would be easy for them to score, get it to a point and then give it to lewandowski so he could score.

Nowadays, they do not have him, and they still come to a point but then they are lacking that finishing, nobody in the team has it as good as Lewa did and that is the problem. They will adjust and start scoring too, but it will take time to get that responsibility distributed to everyone.

I don't really think they need Robert Lewandowski anymore and in actuality, Lewandowski needs Bayern Munich right now Robert Lewandowski only got 8 goals for FC Barcelona which is not the same performance last season with Bayern Munich, that game on the UEFA Championship League Bayern Munich have won against Barcelona not because of the striker but because of the team, and they really know how Lewandowski is playing and Lewandowski is not used in the team play of Barcelona, while Barcelona still doesn't know how they will make a great game for Lewandowski,

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Bayern Munich can't be very happy at the moment truthfully. Because they are doing good only in the Champions League now. Things are going really bad for them in the Bundesliga. They lost nine points in their last four league games. Nagelsmann tried a different attacking line like Sane - Mane in the forward position against Augsburg. But they lost the game 1-0. We haven't seen Bayern Munich in this much trouble for a long period of time. As everyone said already, the permanent solution to their scoring problem is signing a complete forward as soon as possible.

Yes, Bayern Munich fans are not happy about the results they got from the team in this season that is making them to doubt if the team will go far in this season. I think, their coach need to do something fast to improve the team because they still have more opportunity ahead which they can still demonstrate to make their fans happy again. No doubt, Bayern Munich coach will definitely solve this problem the team is facing in this season because he is fully ready to bring in new talented strikers that can help the team to achieve many goals in any competition.

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Bayern Munich's poor performance was also influenced by Mane's declining performance and not finding his rhythm. Mane seems to need a long adaptation when it comes to playing in the Dutch league.
Due to poor performances, Bayern Munich had to settle for fifth place with 12 points this season and Union Berlin in first place with 17 points. Need 5 more points to reach the top, Bayern Munich must work hard and must score as many goals as possible.

New position for Sadio Mane in Bayern Munich as central forward make him can't give top level performance with Bayern Munich and he still adapting with position as central forward. I think will different if Bayern Munich manager Julian Nagelsmann give him left winger position because his position still with Liverpool. Beside problem with attacking line I think Bayern Munich still bad performance in defensive area because have been conceded 6 goals of 7 games.

Bayern Munich left 7 points from top standing position awhile Union Berlin have 17 points and become the only one Bundesliga team still unbeaten until 7 games, absolutely Bayern Munich still have chance get first standing position but need consistent and back recovery to winning record before losing points again and have different points with Union Berlin.

^ I have always thought that Sadio Mane is a natural left-winger. Furthermore, I believe it was a mistake to try to convert him to a center forward right after he had moved. If Bayern Munich doesn't adapt to a different strategy, then I believe that they will not be able to reach their goal. In the current rankings, they are ranked 5th, and things do not appear to be shaping up well for them.

One of the major reasons why people expect better results from them is the fact that they have consistently won the Bundesliga title for the last 10 years. As a result, it is obvious that there is something wrong with the team if they are not in the top 3 after so many games. I am hearing that the coach might be sacked, and that might turn out to be a wise decision.

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