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Honestly I don't expect much from Borussia Dortmund if they still behave like this (only making money from selling players). Even if there is a statement from them that they want achievement, I will laugh at that. What they need to do now is to improve the team first and not to be too greedy with profits.
Actually they have no intention of selling their star players, but any player whose name has been on the radar of big European teams will find it difficult to refuse requests and players will do anything to get out of the club, but the club certainly doesn't want to lose players for free, and they will hear all incoming offers.
Every season dortmund continues to create star players but none of these players last long in dortmund, maybe dortmund has no intention of selling these players but actually dortmund has full control to sell or not these players, I don't think if dortmund will reject every offer that comes in to its players if it really benefits them from a financial point of view and in fact dortmund does not try to keep the player at all costs if indeed they have no intention of selling him at all, as happened to haalaand, I think haalaand has a contract until 2024 with dortmund and if dortmund don't want to sell it of course manchester city can't do anything at all but the fact is when manchester city offers a lot of money doesn't dortmund accept it right away?
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Honestly I don't expect much from Borussia Dortmund if they still behave like this (only making money from selling players). Even if there is a statement from them that they want achievement, I will laugh at that. What they need to do now is to improve the team first and not to be too greedy with profits.
Actually they have no intention of selling their star players, but any player whose name has been on the radar of big European teams will find it difficult to refuse requests and players will do anything to get out of the club, but the club certainly doesn't want to lose players for free, and they will hear all incoming offers.
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Even before Dortmund sold Haaland it was a weak team (compared to the top ones), now it is obviously even weaker and I would not be surprised if they are moved from second place to third and maybe even fourth in the upcoming season. As for Bayern, they will not have any problems in the domestic championship, as for the Champions League, randomness is of great importance there, but they will definitely be in the group of favorites.
They are not weak but just not strong enough to win Bundesliga. It is from Dortmund, not too strong enough and the over domination of Bayern in Bundesliga. Getting the runner up position will still be a challenge for Dortmund but they can do it. Other clubs in Bundesliga are not actually stronger than Dortmund. So Dortmund will still have chance and be able to get it. It is not easy for them but they can get it.

Of course they are weak. They lost every tournament last year and in most of them they were eliminated not by Bayern at all, but by other much weaker teams. The Champions League, then the Europa League, the German Cup - they failed everywhere. Now that Haaland is gone, it's hard to imagine that they've gotten stronger, right? And this means that in the upcoming season their achievements will hardly be better.
Honestly I don't expect much from Borussia Dortmund if they still behave like this (only making money from selling players). Even if there is a statement from them that they want achievement, I will laugh at that. What they need to do now is to improve the team first and not to be too greedy with profits.
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Germany SuperCup this weekend and it's also the first test for Bayern without Lewa.

Bayern vs Dortmund is what we are looking at and for me , Dortmund has the first chance as I don't see Bayern going all-in for this trophy even if the fans will want to see them lift another one. For now , we don't even know if important players will play full game or only 20 minutes or so.
Germany Super Cup schedule is Bayern vs Leipzig not against Dortmund this because Bayern as the winner of Bundesliga will fight against Leipzig as DFB Pocal winner and starting lineup weren't published yet but this match is not so important for both of teams even similar to friendly match so i assume they will used some of their reserved players and new players too but for Dortmund they will fight early on Saturday for first round of DFB Pocal against 1860 Muchen and this is first test too for Dortmund playing without Haaland for new competition
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Even before Dortmund sold Haaland it was a weak team (compared to the top ones), now it is obviously even weaker and I would not be surprised if they are moved from second place to third and maybe even fourth in the upcoming season. As for Bayern, they will not have any problems in the domestic championship, as for the Champions League, randomness is of great importance there, but they will definitely be in the group of favorites.
They are not weak but just not strong enough to win Bundesliga. It is from Dortmund, not too strong enough and the over domination of Bayern in Bundesliga. Getting the runner up position will still be a challenge for Dortmund but they can do it. Other clubs in Bundesliga are not actually stronger than Dortmund. So Dortmund will still have chance and be able to get it. It is not easy for them but they can get it.

Of course they are weak. They lost every tournament last year and in most of them they were eliminated not by Bayern at all, but by other much weaker teams. The Champions League, then the Europa League, the German Cup - they failed everywhere. Now that Haaland is gone, it's hard to imagine that they've gotten stronger, right? And this means that in the upcoming season their achievements will hardly be better.
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If we were daydreaming Bayern shouldn't be there. They are suitable in the premier league which has enough competition for each other. and really sure there is no discrepancy like in Bundesliga. but, for sure if the clubs you have mentioned have a great team and coach that is possible we can see Bundesliga as a premier league. That is a problem all clubs have, financial, sponsor, and money, which Bayern didn't have. But don't worry, Dortmund is a bit stronger than them

Yes you are right, it is possible that if Bayern Munich is a Premier League contestant, then the competition will be healthier, in the sense that they will not be able to dominate as happened in the Bundesliga. In fact, I think they will find it difficult to at least be in the top four of the standings. In the Bundesliga I can say, Bayern Munich had won 1-0 before the game started.
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Germany SuperCup this weekend and it's also the first test for Bayern without Lewa.
Bayern vs Dortmund is what we are looking at and for me , Dortmund has the first chance as I don't see Bayern going all-in for this trophy even if the fans will want to see them lift another one. For now , we don't even know if important players will play full game or only 20 minutes or so.

Well it is true that finally the season will start again this Saturday with the Super cup, but Bayern is not facing Borussia Dortmund their. They are playing against RB Leipzig. I think the rules are that the Bundesliga champion is playing against the winner of the DFB Pokal there. Of course in recent years it was pretty often the case that Bayern was the Bundesliga champion and the DFB Pokal winner at the same time and in this case they are playing against the team that was on the second position in the Bundesliga which would be Dortmund in this case.
Bayern is the favorite for me even though the cup is not important. They have a lot of new players and therefore competition for the places in the starting eleven.
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I agree Bayern Munich is a dominant team to win titles in the Bundesliga, but I never thought they would go their own way without competition from other teams. Even if Dortmund are not able to compete, then I'm sure other teams will provide good competition in the standings throughout the season.

An unexpected thing happened to Heller which actually cost Dortmund, but that was not entirely true as there are other players who are ready to play all season for the same purpose.
I still wonder which club will indeed be able to make a breakthrough like this and stop Bayern's dominance other than Dortmund.
There are some great clubs in the Bundesliga such as Leverkusen, Leipzig and even Freiburg and Union Berlin who are dark horses there. But things like this are not enough to keep Bayern stuck because they are not at the same level and will most likely be the same as last season with them elbowing each other in 2nd place down but not being able to put pressure on the top position.
If we were daydreaming Bayern shouldn't be there. They are suitable in the premier league which has enough competition for each other. and really sure there is no discrepancy like in Bundesliga. but, for sure if the clubs you have mentioned have a great team and coach that is possible we can see Bundesliga as a premier league. That is a problem all clubs have, financial, sponsor, and money, which Bayern didn't have. But don't worry, Dortmund is a bit stronger than them
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In fact, Dortmund already have hope for next season because Haaland's departure was immediately greeted with the arrival of Haller, but there are some unexpected problems for them now that Haller with his illness definitely needs time to be able to return to play.
Now Dortmund are obviously only relying on Reus up front and I don't think this is good because it's clear that Reus's burden is bigger now.
On the other hand there are some things regarding transfer information but until now there has been no further confirmation about this and it is certain that Bayern will benefit as they will be walking alone again for the title race.
Dortmund have bigger expectation and hope with Sébastien Haller after deal transfer with Ajax Amsterdam and become replacement for Haaland have sold to Manchester City, but with some unexpected problem faced by Sébastien Haller and until unknow time he can back to field make Dortmund have find new replacement for position leaving by Haaland. Exactly Dortmund don't want to make failed again on UEFA Champion League next season and he need to find new forward and can give more contribution on Bundesliga and Champion League. Not good ideas waiting with Sébastien Haller come back because he still need time and keep waiting to recovery his performance.
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I personally didn't consider Leipzig because even Leipzig in this transfer window didn't make many changes in their squad, only a few returned from loan and only signed a few young players. I don't think there is a big target for Leipzig next season even though they will play in the Champions League, but even so I still believe that Leipzig will still be able to compete for the top four places in the standings. I personally look forward to the changes that Eintracht Frankfurt are making, they have been very active in this transfer window so the changes in the Eintracht Frankfurt squad are clearly visible. Eintracht Frankfurt have a good process this time to be able to compete better in the Champions League and will probably become a contender team also in the top standings of the Bundesliga with the changes it has made.

By the way there is a possibility for Timo Werner to come back to Leipzig very soon. Because it has been speculated these days that Werner wants to leave Chelsea as soon as possible. He wants to play for a team that he can have a bigger playing time. If they don't sell him on a permanent deal he is likely to be loaned to a team. Among the teams that he can be loaned to, there is Leipzig as well. His times with Leipzig were really great in the past. He was unstoppable about scoring. If he returns Leipzig might have a better season.
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Germany SuperCup this weekend and it's also the first test for Bayern without Lewa.

Bayern vs Dortmund is what we are looking at and for me , Dortmund has the first chance as I don't see Bayern going all-in for this trophy even if the fans will want to see them lift another one. For now , we don't even know if important players will play full game or only 20 minutes or so.
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I think they are trying to do the same thing that they did with Robert Lewandowski. Robert Lewandowski was always a striker. But when Jurgen Klopp was the coach of Dortmund he made Robert Lewandowski play in the midfield position instead of a striker. And that really helped Robert Lewandowski to be a better player.

From playing in the midfield he had no trouble going back to playing in the attacking position later. No one actually realized that initially but later even Robert Lewandowski realized why his coach did this.

So, I think they are probably trying to do the same thing with this player. But they have to realize that football has changed and the team also needs a striker right now.

Well, I believe you because to be the best striker you really need to be almost well known in all positions, in football, and did you all know on top of being a great striker he also has 4 Guinness Book of records and he will not get this kind of remarkable breakthrough if he wasn't really versatile with every position there is on Football, and I think the Athletic side of Lewandowski, he might be inherited to his family because every member of his family is known to be athletic, his father was a Judo Champion, and a footballer aswell, and his mother and sister was a volleyball player, and his wife won 2009 bronze medal karate championship,

Maybe Adeyemi and Haaland are totally different players. But their common features are that being skilled and having played for Salzburg before.  Grin  If Adeyemi also adapts to the team like Haaland did then honestly I think that we can see a great performance by Adeyemi. He can easily be the main centre-forward of the team depending on his performance. Dortmund like to play with youngsters there so they would give the chance he wants very much.

It is too early to speculate but I don't really want to compare Haaland and Adeyemi, but I think that Karim Adeyemi will eventually see his own path in the Bundesliga world he might be not the main goaler for the team but I think he needs to throw in other positions first to be the perfect attacker on the Dortmund team in the future,


I think it was already pretty clear before this news that Bayern will not sign Harry Kane this summer. I mean come on Bayern already spent around 110 Million € already for Mane and De Ligt. Today Mathys Tel landed in Munich to do the medical checkup and he will probably sign a contract until 2027 tomorrow. Tel will also cost 28,5 Million € which is a huge amount of money for a 17 year old in my opinion. So Bayern already spent 140 Million € so far while they only got like 55 Million € back for Lewandowski, Marc Roca and Omar Richards. Kane would probably cost at least 80 or 90 Million € because he still has a contract until 2024 and there is no way that Bayern is spending 180 Million € in one transfer period. Bayern is reasonable with their money, unlike Barca.

It was surely a large investment on certain many players for Bayern Munich to be getting Harry Kane will surely need a lot of financial back-ups and will surely get those many players in the club, and yes I also think Bayern Munich will not get Harry Kane anymore they also decline Timo Werner from Chelsea and Filip Kostic from West ham, I think the start of the next season of the Bundesliga is also nearing and will starts on Aug 6, with Eintracht Frankfurt VS Bayern Munich as the opening match, and I am super excited,
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In fact, Dortmund already have hope for next season because Haaland's departure was immediately greeted with the arrival of Haller, but there are some unexpected problems for them now that Haller with his illness definitely needs time to be able to return to play.
Now Dortmund are obviously only relying on Reus up front and I don't think this is good because it's clear that Reus's burden is bigger now.
On the other hand there are some things regarding transfer information but until now there has been no further confirmation about this and it is certain that Bayern will benefit as they will be walking alone again for the title race.
I agree Bayern Munich is a dominant team to win titles in the Bundesliga, but I never thought they would go their own way without competition from other teams. Even if Dortmund are not able to compete, then I'm sure other teams will provide good competition in the standings throughout the season.

An unexpected thing happened to Heller which actually cost Dortmund, but that was not entirely true as there are other players who are ready to play all season for the same purpose.
I still wonder which club will indeed be able to make a breakthrough like this and stop Bayern's dominance other than Dortmund.
There are some great clubs in the Bundesliga such as Leverkusen, Leipzig and even Freiburg and Union Berlin who are dark horses there. But things like this are not enough to keep Bayern stuck because they are not at the same level and will most likely be the same as last season with them elbowing each other in 2nd place down but not being able to put pressure on the top position.
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Conte is really pissed from Bayern attitude to talk to media about being interested on Kane. He called that a bit disrespectful and that they should talk directly to Spurs although he consider Kane an important part of the club project.
From what I understood, it appears that Bayern won't get Kane this summer at least.

I think it was already pretty clear before this news that Bayern will not sign Harry Kane this summer. I mean come on Bayern already spent around 110 Million € already for Mane and De Ligt. Today Mathys Tel landed in Munich to do the medical checkup and he will probably sign a contract until 2027 tomorrow. Tel will also cost 28,5 Million € which is a huge amount of money for a 17 year old in my opinion. So Bayern already spent 140 Million € so far while they only got like 55 Million € back for Lewandowski, Marc Roca and Omar Richards. Kane would probably cost at least 80 or 90 Million € because he still has a contract until 2024 and there is no way that Bayern is spending 180 Million € in one transfer period. Bayern is reasonable with their money, unlike Barca.

I agree Bayern is unlikely to sign Harry Kane this year, apart from Bayern having spent a lot of money to bring in some new players, Bayern also
seems to want to try to play Mane in center forward as a replacement for Lewandowski. If it goes well enough, I doubt Bayern will still try to sign
Kane next summer. Having learned from Man City's failure to land Kane, looks like Bayern realized they had to find another way to get Harry Kane.

It is certain that Tottenham will definitely ask for a very high price and it does not make sense if Bayern want to buy Kane. Therefore from now
on Bayern are trying to spread rumors of interest in Kane, so if Tottenham fail to win trophies next season, then Kane will be disappointed and
there is a possibility Kane refuses to extend his contract with Tottenham. So Tottenham will sell for a reasonable price next year, if not sold
then Tottenham will lose Kane in 2024 for free. It's very strategic if Bayern's plan to sign Kane is like that.
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Bayern Munich will definitely improve well in next season, because Robert Lewandowski is a talented striker that know how to achieve goals from any competition. I think, this is what Bayern Munich players have been waiting for because the team was seriously lacking in the area of striker that was making them not to perform well in some matches. Now that Bayern Munich president has agreed to sign in Robert Lewandowski into the team, Robert Lewandowski will definitely help the team to achieve next season title because he is among the best strikers in Germany league competition.
Lewandowski's future is still a question for many people, because Lewandowski has been planning to move to Barcelona since April 2022.
But Bayern are still trying hard to keep Lewandowski from moving, one of them by setting a high price if Barcelona want to buy Lewandowski.
As you said Lewandowski's performance was outstanding, so Bayern will be missing out a lot if Lewandowski leaves. Since moving from
Dortmund in 2014, Lewandowski has scored 344 goals and provided 72 assists in 375 games. That's why Bayern's management always said
that Lewandowski would stay for at least one more season. Moreover, Barcelona's finances are not healthy, so I doubt Barcelona will be willing
to meet Bayern's high transfer fee requests. I also predict that it is very likely that Lewandowski will stay at Bayern and will help Bayern win trophies
in his final season with Bayern.

Bayern Munich first thought that if they put a big enough price tag on Robert Lewandowski Barcelona is not going to be interested in the player. But I think they were surprised to see the interest that Barcelona had to bring in the player.

But Robert Lewandowski himself wanted to get out of Bayern Munich. And I think Byron Munich also understood that they were not going to be able to keep him in the club. So it will be good for them to let him go for a good amount of price.

Though, Barcelona knows he is already quite old and will not be able to perform as he is doing right now after two years, eventually, they brought this sticker to the team.
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Conte is really pissed from Bayern attitude to talk to media about being interested on Kane. He called that a bit disrespectful and that they should talk directly to Spurs although he consider Kane an important part of the club project.
From what I understood, it appears that Bayern won't get Kane this summer at least.

I think it was already pretty clear before this news that Bayern will not sign Harry Kane this summer. I mean come on Bayern already spent around 110 Million € already for Mane and De Ligt. Today Mathys Tel landed in Munich to do the medical checkup and he will probably sign a contract until 2027 tomorrow. Tel will also cost 28,5 Million € which is a huge amount of money for a 17 year old in my opinion. So Bayern already spent 140 Million € so far while they only got like 55 Million € back for Lewandowski, Marc Roca and Omar Richards. Kane would probably cost at least 80 or 90 Million € because he still has a contract until 2024 and there is no way that Bayern is spending 180 Million € in one transfer period. Bayern is reasonable with their money, unlike Barca.
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Although Mukiele's name isn't that big, but he's a pretty influential player in Leipzig, with Mukiele going to PSG I can assure you that Leipzig will have a hard time competing with other big clubs in the Bundesliga this season. the bundesliga is getting boring, and surely the domination of bayern won't be resisted anymore.
They already had a big trouble last season, they used to have negalsmann and their big name defender, now they are not going to have Mukiele as well, which all comes down to the fact that they lost many players and had a lower level players would mean that lower level in the league at the end of the season as well.

This isn't some sort of situation where you could just spend money and replace these players because bigger clubs would pay a ton of money, so even if you wanted to, all you would get is players with a good potential, not already good players and that is what Leipzig is having a hard time with. I expect them to do a lot better eventually, but it is going to take time to find those players.
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Maybe Adeyemi and Haaland are totally different players. But their common features are that being skilled and having played for Salzburg before.  Grin  If Adeyemi also adapts to the team like Haaland did then honestly I think that we can see a great performance by Adeyemi. He can easily be the main centre-forward of the team depending on his performance. Dortmund like to play with youngsters there so they would give the chance he wants very much.
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Bayern Munich are now losing 1-0 against City in their friendly match. It could be, it's a friendly match after all, but they almost didn't have positions throughout the match. City played very dominant and they are leading 1-0 with a goal from former Bundesliga striker Haaland. Bayern Munich's squad this year looks very good. I think they are competing for the UCL title but it is very difficult if they play like that. They don't have Lewangoalski anymore, they need to make the attacks more organized.

Bayern Munich have formed their squad with the aim of winning the Champions League title. But since Lewandowski left the squad, it is not possible to fill the void created in the squad so quickly. While Mane was talented, Lewandowski was a scoring machine. I doubt Sadio Mane can score as regularly as Lewandowski. So I think Bayern Munich should add another striker to the squad as Lewandowski's replacement.

I think the same as you man. Bayern Munich will not easily replace Lewandowski. In fact, it was a big mistake to send him off the team without arranging a transfer for him. Bayern will definitely understand this. The only question in mind is who will Bayern buy instead of Lewandowski?
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Yes, totally agree, due to his age he is already starting to slow down in his game. Also, have there been any rumours of his transfer? To some extent such a player would help the team anyway, but they should understand that if they sign him, it will be for one or maximum two seasons, because only he knows when Suarez will finish his career
I think Luiz Suarez is not in criteria list from Dortmund player, usually all player transfer did by Dortmund as long investment time, never try with central forward position with player have age above 34 years old and looks Suarez just have one or two season only if try sign with Dortmund. We still remember with Haaland transfer last several season, Dortmund always looking for player have young age and become profitable and business later when have reaching top performance and sell to other club, depending how business and profit earn with Haaland, I think Dortmund keep priority with you player on transfer.
Yes, I agree with you there. Dortmund are a brilliant team in terms of business, the management know what they are doing. After all, Haaland is not the only player who became a young star in this team and was sold for many times more than he was bought. You can't do that with Suarez, unfortunately. So I even wonder who they will buy instead of Haaland

If you notice, except for Marco Reus and Haller in the Dortmund team, all the other players are still young. Dortmund will want to make one of these players a star. And for this, these players must be trained. If Dortmund wants to sign Suarez, it will be profitable for them. Suarez is an experienced player. If he is friendly with the young players, maybe the performance of Dortmund's young players will improve. And Dortmund can profit by selling these players in the future.

If you look at it this way, yes, I agree with you, but there is a but. In that case, they won't have enough suarez alone, and then there's marco. Two players won't give the whole team the experience they want, they will either need to buy up experienced players and keep a balance in this case. But its easier to teach all the newbies yourself rather than spend money on players who will spend 1 or 2 seasons in the team.
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