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Quote from: bekti3 on July 21, 2022, 06:01:46 PM

This is evident for their pre-season matches even though there is no Lewandowski but their productivity is really good although it still can't be used as a benchmark in my opinion.
At the moment Naglesmann has really made Mane fill in the position left by Lewa and this is still going well with the goal he scored in the friendly but it looks like he has to work hard now.

I guess there is not much you have to do with a player like Mane is to get him integrated into a team , specialy for Bayern Munich.
I would be not surprised if we will see Mane on the Lewandowski position , Gnabry and Mane looks also a good combination for what i have seen.

Quote from: Joca97 on July 21, 2022, 04:51:26 PM

Mane is a wing player so he is not an actual striker so i dont if he can fill that role 100%. Maybe Muller will play the striker position now but i still think they need to sign a striker. Both gnabry and mane are wing players aswell as sane. Bayern munich needs a striker and fast

He is not only a wing player , he can play more positions and he already said in some interview " He will play every position where the coach will want me , but not as a goalkeeper "

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Bundesliga would be a very good option for Luis Suarez. The defenders play very hard in Italy Serie A, the matches are played at a very high tempo in the English Premier League, these two leagues may be difficult for him because he is now 35 years old. I think Germany Bundesliga selection would be the best choice for him... By the way, I really felt sorry for Sebastien Haller. He is suffering from a critical illness. I know someone who passed away from this ailment. I hope his status isn't too serious.

I agree that we are going to see Suarez doing a lot better in Bundesliga for a short while but at the end of the day Germany is famous for people with huge lungs, they run for 90 minutes and they keep running afterwards, and Suarez is too old and too "technical" to be that kind of player. Just keep him in La Liga even if he is playing for a low level team, he would at least be getting a few million a year and he would be making a lot of goals for that team and would have fun.

That is the most important part of the deal, he doesn't need to make a ton of success, just a few goals and some playing time for a few million and he can continue like that for maybe like 5 more years, that would make sense.

I heard many rumors also about this guy, Marseille also interesting to recruit him but when talking about competition, Bundesliga is better. If Dortmund still wants to continue him, I think is Suarez must thinking twice, Suarez types a real attacker where he doesn't need to run half of the field to get a ball, he will get supply from center midfielder, so his age is not a problem, but if happen and Haller got recovery, I believe he will be a bench player, so he must prepare it.

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Quote from: Lafu on July 20, 2022, 11:04:34 AM

Quote from: bekti3 on July 20, 2022, 10:53:14 AM

It's a fact like that. Whether there is Lewa at Bayern or not, Bayern is still the seed but the problem is that now maybe many people are starting to worry about goal productivity because it is quite clear that most of the goals scored by Bayern are the result of Lewandowski so when he is not there it will be a disaster. Worries.
At the moment Bayern are the most complete and strongest squad for the size of the Bundesliga and I would not doubt them one bit. Speaking of Ronaldo, maybe we should bury this soon.

I guess nobody is or should be worried about scoring Goals for Bayern Munich without that Lewandowski not playing anymore there.
He scored only so much Goals because the other players have been set it up for him most times , also there was a lot of penalty goals he has done.
Bayern Munich has so much very good players that can score goals , and i guess we will see a lot from Mane in the future.

This is evident for their pre-season matches even though there is no Lewandowski but their productivity is really good although it still can't be used as a benchmark in my opinion.
At the moment Naglesmann has really made Mane fill in the position left by Lewa and this is still going well with the goal he scored in the friendly but it looks like he has to work hard now.

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I think Bayern really made a fast one by the signing of Mane partnering with gnabry cause it really would have created a loophole for Bayern as lewandowski leaves for Barcelona but am sure the African Best player would really deliver in that space. And we look forward to see a wonderful performance from Bayern as always

The hole left by Lewandowski is quite big and every player replacing him will be in an awkward situation regarding the number of goals scored by him and how much his permanent substitute will be able to achieve.
Mane is a good player, winning the best African player for the second time prove that of course, yet he had to impress everyone with his goals with Bayern and possibly leading the team to the finals of Champions League.

Mane has everything they want the performance is also always good in the team and in the country so he just needs adaptation to find the right colleagues
Indeed morally he will be burdened to approach the record left by Lewandowski but as a professional he can definitely get through it

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It's just a friendly game and against a weak American team but still Bayern's first match was glamorous. Especially new transfers showed their skills and scored some goals. That gives us a sneak peak of how new season would be without Lewandowski. Mane started with a penalty in the beginning of first half and De Ligt started second half with a goal. Zirkzee had a great year in Anderlecht and in U21 championship, now he wants the jersey here. Mane - Gnabry duo looked like they were going to do well together. This 4-4-2 tactic work well against lower teams. The real test will be Manchester City friendly game three days later. We might see another tactic there.

Bayern Munich undoubtedly have a good team, despite Lewandowski their top striker departing the club they still have some new players who have come to improve the squad for the upcoming season. The friendlies are to evaluate the team's progress in term of performance and the team have being showing good performances. Mane and Gnabry's partnership will be fun to watch.

I think Bayern really made a fast one by the signing of Mane partnering with gnabry cause it really would have created a loophole for Bayern as lewandowski leaves for Barcelona but am sure the African Best player would really deliver in that space. And we look forward to see a wonderful performance from Bayern as always

Mane is a wing player so he is not an actual striker so i dont if he can fill that role 100%. Maybe Muller will play the striker position now but i still think they need to sign a striker. Both gnabry and mane are wing players aswell as sane. Bayern munich needs a striker and fast

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Quote from: trendcoin on July 21, 2022, 11:17:41 AM

Bundesliga would be a very good option for Luis Suarez. The defenders play very hard in Italy Serie A, the matches are played at a very high tempo in the English Premier League, these two leagues may be difficult for him because he is now 35 years old. I think Germany Bundesliga selection would be the best choice for him... By the way, I really felt sorry for Sebastien Haller. He is suffering from a critical illness. I know someone who passed away from this ailment. I hope his status isn't too serious.

I agree that we are going to see Suarez doing a lot better in Bundesliga for a short while but at the end of the day Germany is famous for people with huge lungs, they run for 90 minutes and they keep running afterwards, and Suarez is too old and too "technical" to be that kind of player. Just keep him in La Liga even if he is playing for a low level team, he would at least be getting a few million a year and he would be making a lot of goals for that team and would have fun.

That is the most important part of the deal, he doesn't need to make a ton of success, just a few goals and some playing time for a few million and he can continue like that for maybe like 5 more years, that would make sense.

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Quote from: Lida93 on July 21, 2022, 04:05:40 PM

I think Bayern really made a fast one by the signing of Mane partnering with gnabry cause it really would have created a loophole for Bayern as lewandowski leaves for Barcelona but am sure the African Best player would really deliver in that space. And we look forward to see a wonderful performance from Bayern as always

The hole left by Lewandowski is quite big and every player replacing him will be in an awkward situation regarding the number of goals scored by him and how much his permanent substitute will be able to achieve.
Mane is a good player, winning the best African player for the second time prove that of course, yet he had to impress everyone with his goals with Bayern and possibly leading the team to the finals of Champions League.

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In Bayern Munich's decisive victory over DC United at Audi Field Stadium in Washington, USA, Sadio Mane and Matthijs de Ligt both made outstanding debuts. Mane, who recently moved from Liverpool, did not have to wait long to score for Munich from the penalty spot. Both players scored on their debuts.
De Ligt, a recent addition from Juventus, scored the goal after Bayern substituted the first 11 players in the second half. He did so by volleying a left-footed volley from a corner. In this friendly game, Bayern Munich defeated DC United 6-2.

Mane has always been this good for sure even while he was in Liverpool but the focus was always on Salah. And I believe him being in Bayern makes all the difference obvious.

Against Dc United was the debut match for Mane and De Ligt after joining Bayern Munich, although only able to score a goal through a penalty kick, but Mane performance in that match was quite impressive, as well as De Ligt who just joined a few days ago but was able to give a lot significant impact and contribution to the defense of bayern munchen, Btw about Mane, I agree with what @Markinzo said if Mane has been showing good performances at liverpool but unfortunately the shadow of Salah always covers Mane, now is the time for Mane to prove himself also deserves to be aligned with other great striker strikers.

Haven just won the African Best player of the year, I think he's gonna give much more of himself at Bayern as his efforts will commensurately be appreciated with no shadows involved.
In proven himself, I think he has already done that, that's why he could cling the African Best.

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It's just a friendly game and against a weak American team but still Bayern's first match was glamorous. Especially new transfers showed their skills and scored some goals. That gives us a sneak peak of how new season would be without Lewandowski. Mane started with a penalty in the beginning of first half and De Ligt started second half with a goal. Zirkzee had a great year in Anderlecht and in U21 championship, now he wants the jersey here. Mane - Gnabry duo looked like they were going to do well together. This 4-4-2 tactic work well against lower teams. The real test will be Manchester City friendly game three days later. We might see another tactic there.

Bayern Munich undoubtedly have a good team, despite Lewandowski their top striker departing the club they still have some new players who have come to improve the squad for the upcoming season. The friendlies are to evaluate the team's progress in term of performance and the team have being showing good performances. Mane and Gnabry's partnership will be fun to watch.

I think Bayern really made a fast one by the signing of Mane partnering with gnabry cause it really would have created a loophole for Bayern as lewandowski leaves for Barcelona but am sure the African Best player would really deliver in that space. And we look forward to see a wonderful performance from Bayern as always

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It is quite difficult to expect the Bundesliga to be a competitive league now. Even if Bayern Munich are not at their best, their competitors are not able to become the team that overturns Bayern Munich's dominance over the years. It's been 10 years they could be said to have no competitors who could give them more trouble. It would be even more boring if the situation didn't change.

I think that is not the fault of Bayern Munchen,all teams are fighting on equal terms,they are 11 players on one team and 11 on the other.The problem is that these other teams lack the hardcore discipline that Bayern Munchen has together with their consistency.All other teams who can be thought as contenders do not pose a real threat to Bayern Munchen as they lack the primary factor to be in a title fight which is consistency,both Leipzig and Dortmund which are the best teams after Bayern lack this consistency,they lose points with weak opponents thus losing the race to the title.
This will be even more evident now that Sadio Mane has joined Bayern Munchen as he is the same goals machine as Lewandoski was.
In fact betting on Bayern to win Bundesliga is like putting money to a saving account and withdrawing them at the end of the season,that is how sure I am they will win the Bundesliga again this year.

If you look at it from this point of view, it is true that they are still playing with the same 11 players and from a discipline point of view they can actually be considered the same but what makes the difference is the condition of their players and the wealth of the club. This is definitely a factor in terms of consistency because regardless of what they play, it's still the quality of the players that matters.
In terms of betting for the long term like this I prefer to avoid it, even though it's definitely a win but it's only a small part of the advantage and I'm still happy to bet on every game than the long term like this because I don't think it's really worth it.

It doesn't matter if a player leaves Bayern Munich because they are still going to be the number one team in the Bundesliga. And that is not likely to change for quite a long time to come. Because this situation has not transpired in only one season, this situation has been created for the last 10 years. And something that has been happening for the last 10 years is not expected to change quickly at all.

Dortmund did show some reluctance when facing Bayern Munich, but now that has also changed. Dortmund is not a very competitive team anymore. At least not against a team like Bayern Munich.

But that does not mean the place of Robert Lewandowski will be filled without hesitation by Mane. Mane is not an out-and-out center forward. So I obviously don't expect him to perform like Robert Lewandowski, that is if Bayern Munich does play him in the center-forward position.

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It's just a friendly game and against a weak American team but still Bayern's first match was glamorous. Especially new transfers showed their skills and scored some goals. That gives us a sneak peak of how new season would be without Lewandowski. Mane started with a penalty in the beginning of first half and De Ligt started second half with a goal. Zirkzee had a great year in Anderlecht and in U21 championship, now he wants the jersey here. Mane - Gnabry duo looked like they were going to do well together. This 4-4-2 tactic work well against lower teams. The real test will be Manchester City friendly game three days later. We might see another tactic there.

Bayern Munich undoubtedly have a good team, despite Lewandowski their top striker departing the club they still have some new players who have come to improve the squad for the upcoming season. The friendlies are to evaluate the team's progress in term of performance and the team have being showing good performances. Mane and Gnabry's partnership will be fun to watch.

Seeing the friendly match with DC they did really well and even though there wasn't anything really crazy about Mane but he also there managed to contribute 1 goal even though it was a penalty and this is still very good.
It will be interesting to see the game in a few days away between them and City because even if it is a friendly of course it is a good thing because it shows 2 big clubs.

btw Mane and Haaland will meet again with their big enemy in the previous club Cheesy

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Quote from: ingiltere on July 21, 2022, 01:31:54 PM

It's just a friendly game and against a weak American team but still Bayern's first match was glamorous. Especially new transfers showed their skills and scored some goals. That gives us a sneak peak of how new season would be without Lewandowski. Mane started with a penalty in the beginning of first half and De Ligt started second half with a goal. Zirkzee had a great year in Anderlecht and in U21 championship, now he wants the jersey here. Mane - Gnabry duo looked like they were going to do well together. This 4-4-2 tactic work well against lower teams. The real test will be Manchester City friendly game three days later. We might see another tactic there.

Bayern Munich undoubtedly have a good team, despite Lewandowski their top striker departing the club they still have some new players who have come to improve the squad for the upcoming season. The friendlies are to evaluate the team's progress in term of performance and the team have being showing good performances. Mane and Gnabry's partnership will be fun to watch.

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It's just a friendly game and against a weak American team but still Bayern's first match was glamorous. Especially new transfers showed their skills and scored some goals. That gives us a sneak peak of how new season would be without Lewandowski. Mane started with a penalty in the beginning of first half and De Ligt started second half with a goal. Zirkzee had a great year in Anderlecht and in U21 championship, now he wants the jersey here. Mane - Gnabry duo looked like they were going to do well together. This 4-4-2 tactic work well against lower teams. The real test will be Manchester City friendly game three days later. We might see another tactic there.

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Quote from: bering on July 21, 2022, 01:13:31 AM

Luis Suarez until now have no clubs although he has linked to several clubs from England and Spain but he hasn't decided which clubs will be his destination and currently rumours is his agent has been offering him to Dortmund and Dortmund has confirmed this news that they will considering to get Suarez but Dortmund have to see Haller health condition first and if Haller cannot play for long term period then Dortmund probably will get him and they have a plan will give Suarez short term contract

Until now the clubs that are still often linked with Suarez are still the same, namely Milan and Monza but indeed there will be other clubs that have an interest there to bring in this player.
But for Dortmund at this time there is still no further confirmation although there is indeed some news about Suarez offering himself to them.
But at this time Haller really couldn't do much because he couldn't help but have to be absent long enough to cure his illness.

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Quote from: Bobrox on July 20, 2022, 11:53:19 AM

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I guess nobody is or should be worried about scoring Goals for Bayern Munich without that Lewandowski not playing anymore there.
He scored only so much Goals because the other players have been set it up for him most times , also there was a lot of penalty goals he has done.
Bayern Munich has so much very good players that can score goals , and i guess we will see a lot from Mane in the future.

I think depending with your opinion not have to worry about who will scoring goal for Bayern Munich after leaving by Robert Lewandowski as dramatically opinion. Right now Bayern Munich have loss central forward and Sadio Mane arrived to Bayern Munich is not central forward position, he play as left winger with Liverpool and looks he not ever play as central forward position put by Jurgen Klopp. Really need replacement for Bayern Munich who will be top scorer actually really need central forward, with substitutes player like Choupo-Moting still not have good talented can replace position leaving by Lewadowski and less chance for him will get regular position with Bayern on next season.

I would have worried about Bayern Munich scoring if the competition in the Bundesliga for Bayern Munich had been higher. But obviously, the competition is not at the level of Bayern Munich. So I don't think they have to worry too much about anything at all.

Yes, it would be interesting to see Haller from Dortmund having a spirited race with someone from Bayern Munich. Nevertheless, it does not have to be a central forward. It can be Sadio Mane for all I care.

My point is Bayern Munich is nothing without Robert Lewandowski. Yes, Robert Lewandowski was the most valuable player at Bayern Munich. He has scored the most amount of goals as well. But him not being in the club only means that the club will be missing a lot of goals going forward. Not suddenly dropped from the top four positions.

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Quote from: hd49728 on July 21, 2022, 11:35:08 AM

Bayern just lost Lewandowski and they will filter the market to find another striker. Even they bought Mane weeks ago, the transfer of Lewandowski to Barcelona will force them to buy another striker. If they don't want to spend big transfer cost and very high salary for Ronaldo, Suarez is a better option.

Suarez can score from 15 to 20 goals in a season and I think this combines with Mane will be enough for Bayern attacking system. Suarez and Mane can replace Lewandowski as a new goal resource for Bayern.

Not really bad with how statistic have by Luiz Suarez last eeason, scored 15 until 20 goals not really bad for playing with Bayern or Dortmund next season. Between Ronaldo and Suarez I think not have bigger different quality but still good choose with Suarez. Now he has been free transfer player after not extended contract with Atletico Madrid, club not have spent money for Luiz Suarez transfer, but if try to get Ronaldo need to spent and pay Manchester United early before making deal with how much transfer value. All speculative about just an opinion only I think because Dortmund and Bayern Munich never give official announcement interested with Luiz Suarez.

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Bundesliga would be a very good option for Luis Suarez. The defenders play very hard in Italy Serie A, the matches are played at a very high tempo in the English Premier League, these two leagues may be difficult for him because he is now 35 years old. I think Germany Bundesliga selection would be the best choice for him... By the way, I really felt sorry for Sebastien Haller. He is suffering from a critical illness. I know someone who passed away from this ailment. I hope his status isn't too serious.
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The German Bundesliga may be the best League for him to join right now because of his age but he should also consider the possibility of being in the starting lineup of any team in the league. Suarez is old I don't think a team with younger players would want to use him in the first eleven. The English Premier League will be a better move to me because Suarez will not only be considered as a hitman if he chooses a team like Aston Villa, Westham United, or Wolverhampton United but he will be a regular starter in those teams as there will not be a player that will be more dangerous and sharp to bench him in the teams.

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Luis Suarez until now have no clubs although he has linked to several clubs from England and Spain but he hasn't decided which clubs will be his destination and currently rumours is his agent has been offering him to Dortmund and Dortmund has confirmed this news that they will considering to get Suarez but Dortmund have to see Haller health condition first and if Haller cannot play for long term period then Dortmund probably will get him and they have a plan will give Suarez short term contract

Bundesliga would be a very good option for Luis Suarez. The defenders play very hard in Italy Serie A, the matches are played at a very high tempo in the English Premier League, these two leagues may be difficult for him because he is now 35 years old. I think Germany Bundesliga selection would be the best choice for him...

Maybe, just maybe Bundesliga might be the best league for him but, for players seeking glory in the Champions League, I don't see Luiz Suarez making that choice to join up with the Bundesliga side Borussia Dortmund. It's way below a player of his quality looking at his tray from Liverpool down to his current club Atletico Madrid. Currently a free agent @Luiz Suarez but one thing I don't understand is what's with the returns to the formal clubs. Cristiano Ronaldo tried and it wasn't so successful and Luiz Suarez seems to looking at the same option with Liverpool although, Liverpool is a much better side compared to Manchester United but, I feel he needs to taste new waters.

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Quote from: bering on July 21, 2022, 01:13:31 AM

Luis Suarez until now have no clubs although he has linked to several clubs from England and Spain but he hasn't decided which clubs will be his destination and currently rumours is his agent has been offering him to Dortmund and Dortmund has confirmed this news that they will considering to get Suarez but Dortmund have to see Haller health condition first and if Haller cannot play for long term period then Dortmund probably will get him and they have a plan will give Suarez short term contract

I am very surprised to see no club knocks Suarez door and bring him in their club. Despite of his age, Suarez is still a good striker and if a club is doubt about his ability to play as a main striker, they can buy and use him as a second striker, alternative for their main striker.

Dortmund can be an option for Suarez together with Bayern. I think Bayern and Dortmund are good options for Suarez in last years of his career if he wants to play in Europe. If he does not want to play with high pressure, MLS will be a next option.

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Bundesliga would be a very good option for Luis Suarez. The defenders play very hard in Italy Serie A, the matches are played at a very high tempo in the English Premier League, these two leagues may be difficult for him because he is now 35 years old. I think Germany Bundesliga selection would be the best choice for him... By the way, I really felt sorry for Sebastien Haller. He is suffering from a critical illness. I know someone who passed away from this ailment. I hope his status isn't too serious.

Bayern just lost Lewandowski and they will filter the market to find another striker. Even they bought Mane weeks ago, the transfer of Lewandowski to Barcelona will force them to buy another striker. If they don't want to spend big transfer cost and very high salary for Ronaldo, Suarez is a better option.

Suarez can score from 15 to 20 goals in a season and I think this combines with Mane will be enough for Bayern attacking system. Suarez and Mane can replace Lewandowski as a new goal resource for Bayern.

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Quote from: bering on July 21, 2022, 01:13:31 AM

Luis Suarez until now have no clubs although he has linked to several clubs from England and Spain but he hasn't decided which clubs will be his destination and currently rumours is his agent has been offering him to Dortmund and Dortmund has confirmed this news that they will considering to get Suarez but Dortmund have to see Haller health condition first and if Haller cannot play for long term period then Dortmund probably will get him and they have a plan will give Suarez short term contract

Bundesliga would be a very good option for Luis Suarez. The defenders play very hard in Italy Serie A, the matches are played at a very high tempo in the English Premier League, these two leagues may be difficult for him because he is now 35 years old. I think Germany Bundesliga selection would be the best choice for him... By the way, I really felt sorry for Sebastien Haller. He is suffering from a critical illness. I know someone who passed away from this ailment. I hope his status isn't too serious.

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