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Quote from: rahmad2nd on May 27, 2022, 06:26:55 AM

Still not change on position standing Bundesliga next season with Bayern Munich, Dortmund, Leipzig and Bayern Leverkusen keep as dominance for finish on top standing place. I think if have any new club promoting with lower budget keep exist on Bundesliga is great achievement without drop back to Bundesliga 2. Right now experience and historical team not really important except with how most active on window transfer opening and get new player, if can't get any new player maybe keep stay on Bundesliga is good priority.

I think that the main stagnation in the Bundesliga is connected with the first place - Bayern has dominated for many years in a row and does not give the championship to anyone. As for the top four, things are obviously better here - Leipzig is historically a new club and its presence in the top four is a strictly positive development if we're worried about any diversity of results.

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Frankly speaking, I was expecting Hamburg to play in the Bundesliga next season. They indeed deserve to get the promotion, because their performance in the Bundesliga 2 was decent and commendable. Although, they ended at the 3rd place, but conceded the lowest goals in the Bundesliga 2 last season. Unfortunately for them, they couldn't withstand Hertha Berlin in the second leg. Despite winning the first leg of the Relegation play off. However, congratulations to Hertha Berlin.

An almost shocking result as, given the poor (on average) performance of Hertha away, Hamburg looked like the clear favourite. I can imagine the degree of disappointment for the Hamburg fans. I hope next year Hamburg will take a higher place and go directly to the Bundesliga will save them from such experiences.

Deserved or not, it came down to the single last game (2nd leg) of the relegation match vs Hertha and they lost. Hertha has played a bad season and they will play against relegation next year. Of course it is disappointing for Hamburg as well, but until now they always messed up their relegation into the Bundesliga just in the last few games of the season. Hamburg needs to me more consistent thoughout the whole season and then they won't have to rely on luck anymore.

However both deserve to be in the Bundesliga next season but unfortunately, one of them has to lose. If next season there are no big changes made by Hertha Berlin then they deserve to be relegated next season, with them still having this opportunity they have to make improvements which of course to make their performance even better. At least targeting to be able to compete in the middle table would be better, when compared to fighting to get out of the relegation zone next season then it is the same as repeating mistakes.

I expected Hamburg to be in the Bundesliga next season to replace Berlin but when they lost 0:2 in the second leg of their playoff then I felt like it was another opportunity for Hertha Berlin to improve and try to be more serious in training and field of play.

For Hertha Berlin to fight in the league, they need to bring in more quality and skillful players to match other teams in the league because if they don't sign new players, I see nothing stopping them from being relegated next season.

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Quote from: hahay on May 27, 2022, 02:41:49 AM

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Deserved or not, it came down to the single last game (2nd leg) of the relegation match vs Hertha and they lost. Hertha has played a bad season and they will play against relegation next year. Of course it is disappointing for Hamburg as well, but until now they always messed up their relegation into the Bundesliga just in the last few games of the season. Hamburg needs to me more consistent thoughout the whole season and then they won't have to rely on luck anymore.

However both deserve to be in the Bundesliga next season but unfortunately, one of them has to lose. If next season there are no big changes made by Hertha Berlin then they deserve to be relegated next season, with them still having this opportunity they have to make improvements which of course to make their performance even better. At least targeting to be able to compete in the middle table would be better, when compared to fighting to get out of the relegation zone next season then it is the same as repeating mistakes.

They have been in the Bundesliga five times consecutively now it is time that they start playing better and they have to stop ending in the relegation zone. They have to try and end at least in the top 10. I think they will be able to finish in the mid-table position at least. I believe some changes are important to be made for this team to do better. I also agree that if they can't do any better they should not be in the Bundesliga next season.

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Quote from: Slow death on May 26, 2022, 02:40:31 PM

in recent years it has been proven that teams just have a high budget that they get far and when they don't have good budget they don't get far, by which I mean that if one of those teams that come from the second division or that have survived the relegation are bought by some billionaires they managed to reach the top of the table, but if these teams have not been bought by some billionaire or don't invest in a good coach and good players then next season they will be fighting not to be relegated

Still not change on position standing Bundesliga next season with Bayern Munich, Dortmund, Leipzig and Bayern Leverkusen keep as dominance for finish on top standing place. I think if have any new club promoting with lower budget keep exist on Bundesliga is great achievement without drop back to Bundesliga 2. Right now experience and historical team not really important except with how most active on window transfer opening and get new player, if can't get any new player maybe keep stay on Bundesliga is good priority.

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Frankly speaking, I was expecting Hamburg to play in the Bundesliga next season. They indeed deserve to get the promotion, because their performance in the Bundesliga 2 was decent and commendable. Although, they ended at the 3rd place, but conceded the lowest goals in the Bundesliga 2 last season. Unfortunately for them, they couldn't withstand Hertha Berlin in the second leg. Despite winning the first leg of the Relegation play off. However, congratulations to Hertha Berlin.

An almost shocking result as, given the poor (on average) performance of Hertha away, Hamburg looked like the clear favourite. I can imagine the degree of disappointment for the Hamburg fans. I hope next year Hamburg will take a higher place and go directly to the Bundesliga will save them from such experiences.

Deserved or not, it came down to the single last game (2nd leg) of the relegation match vs Hertha and they lost. Hertha has played a bad season and they will play against relegation next year. Of course it is disappointing for Hamburg as well, but until now they always messed up their relegation into the Bundesliga just in the last few games of the season. Hamburg needs to me more consistent thoughout the whole season and then they won't have to rely on luck anymore.

However both deserve to be in the Bundesliga next season but unfortunately, one of them has to lose. If next season there are no big changes made by Hertha Berlin then they deserve to be relegated next season, with them still having this opportunity they have to make improvements which of course to make their performance even better. At least targeting to be able to compete in the middle table would be better, when compared to fighting to get out of the relegation zone next season then it is the same as repeating mistakes.

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Quote from: bct_ail on May 26, 2022, 04:18:29 PM

As a result of the promotion Werder Bremen and Schalke have 30 million Euro each in additional income for the coming season. With this extra money they should surely manage to get a good team together. And to that the fact that the players are more valuable due to promotion and if they were sold, the clubs would get more money, than if they would still stayed in the 2nd Bundesliga.

Thats right that they get and have more money for the coming season , but the first german league will also have more expensive for them,
more money for the players or at least for a few and if you get new good players the 30 million Euros are gone fast.
I expect both teams will be for sure will have there problems into the first league even they are traditional teams.

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 26, 2022, 06:03:06 PM

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Frankly speaking, I was expecting Hamburg to play in the Bundesliga next season. They indeed deserve to get the promotion, because their performance in the Bundesliga 2 was decent and commendable. Although, they ended at the 3rd place, but conceded the lowest goals in the Bundesliga 2 last season. Unfortunately for them, they couldn't withstand Hertha Berlin in the second leg. Despite winning the first leg of the Relegation play off. However, congratulations to Hertha Berlin.

An almost shocking result as, given the poor (on average) performance of Hertha away, Hamburg looked like the clear favourite. I can imagine the degree of disappointment for the Hamburg fans. I hope next year Hamburg will take a higher place and go directly to the Bundesliga will save them from such experiences.

Deserved or not, it came down to the single last game (2nd leg) of the relegation match vs Hertha and they lost. Hertha has played a bad season and they will play against relegation next year. Of course it is disappointing for Hamburg as well, but until now they always messed up their relegation into the Bundesliga just in the last few games of the season. Hamburg needs to me more consistent thoughout the whole season and then they won't have to rely on luck anymore.

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Quote from: blackened515 on May 26, 2022, 10:13:16 AM

Frankly speaking, I was expecting Hamburg to play in the Bundesliga next season. They indeed deserve to get the promotion, because their performance in the Bundesliga 2 was decent and commendable. Although, they ended at the 3rd place, but conceded the lowest goals in the Bundesliga 2 last season. Unfortunately for them, they couldn't withstand Hertha Berlin in the second leg. Despite winning the first leg of the Relegation play off. However, congratulations to Hertha Berlin.

An almost shocking result as, given the poor (on average) performance of Hertha away, Hamburg looked like the clear favourite. I can imagine the degree of disappointment for the Hamburg fans. I hope next year Hamburg will take a higher place and go directly to the Bundesliga will save them from such experiences.

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Quote from: Lafu on May 26, 2022, 10:47:30 AM

Schalke and Bremen will dont have it easy and they have to work hard on it to keep them into the first league next season.
New players are mostly needed .

As a result of the promotion Werder Bremen and Schalke have 30 million Euro each in additional income for the coming season. With this extra money they should surely manage to get a good team together. And to that the fact that the players are more valuable due to promotion and if they were sold, the clubs would get more money, than if they would still stayed in the 2nd Bundesliga.

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Quote from: Lafu on May 26, 2022, 10:47:30 AM

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The question is are they up for the challenge in the 1st Bundesliga, last season if I am not wrong Schalke and Bremen were in the 1st division and failed to keep up with the other teams, so they have fallen down to the 2nd Division this time but I think they would need to fill in the gap on some players or they will need players that even though not the level of Lewandowski of Haaland, can particularly keep up to the expectation to survive the 1st Division next season,

Exactly and yes you are right on that.
We have seen that this season from Stuttgart also lucky they managed to stay in the first German League.
Its always hard for Teams that coming from the second league into the first , even it was only a year.
Schalke and Bremen will dont have it easy and they have to work hard on it to keep them into the first league next season.
New players are mostly needed .

in recent years it has been proven that teams just have a high budget that they get far and when they don't have good budget they don't get far, by which I mean that if one of those teams that come from the second division or that have survived the relegation are bought by some billionaires they managed to reach the top of the table, but if these teams have not been bought by some billionaire or don't invest in a good coach and good players then next season they will be fighting not to be relegated

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All of the qualified teams to the Bundesliga are determined now. Schalke and Werder Bremen have made it to the first league and unfortunately Hamburg failed in doing this. In fact, they did a really great work in the first leg against Hertha Berlin but they still gave up very easily in the rematch. Hertha Berlin performed much better in the second leg and stayed here. Schalke and Werder Bremen both are very familiar with the league of course and I hope they can come back here stronger than before. Schalke's departure was very horrible in the past and they should be able to make their fans forget about that by performing decently next season.

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I think Schalke will do well. They have a good history in the Bundesliga as far as I know. So, I expect them to be at least in the top 10 next season in Bundesliga. I honestly believe that they will be able to survive in the Bundesliga but if they actually want to do well in the Bundesliga they will have to make some changes in the squad. The same goes for Werder Bremen. But I don't think they will be able to achieve success at the same rate as Schalke.

Quote from: mia_houston on May 26, 2022, 01:15:51 AM

The two teams that have been promoted this season have a long history in the Bundesliga and they have made many achievements in the previous Bundesliga, we cannot deny that Schalke and Bremen have had their golden years in the Bundesliga, I have high expectations this season if both teams, especially Schalke, can provide a lot of competition in the main bundesliga next season, but I quite applaud schalke who still have a great mentality and it's proven they are only one season in bundesliga 2 and now they are back up to the highest caste of the german league.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 26, 2022, 12:35:49 AM

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They are too confident in this which makes this not go well for them. Indeed, things like this are quite natural because the bookies' bets have completely shifted for them, but on the other hand this has drowned them.
They underestimated Hertha here with the results of the previous meeting they were sure they could win but in fact they lost by their own arrogance which made this not good for them and had to fail in the playoffs

The truth is that in this game I underestimated Herta a lot, Hamburger SV had great confidence in them, but they disappointed me, the truth is I don't know what happened to them, in my opinion I think they were nervous and came out very afraid to play and I think Was that a mistake, because they all looked weird, they didn't even have control of the ball or was Herta really so well planted in the game that they made them look very bad, so bad that it almost seemed as if they were left in ridiculous, it should be noted that I lost a bet, which I don't even want to remember anymore, but I know that many also lost their bets, that's why I've always said that in soccer anything can happen.

for this you are not the only one like that because I and maybe even a lot of people outside have lost their money here.
This is a lesson that in this case the team chosen to bet can also sometimes cheat and indeed this is happening now.
it's true regardless of anything underestimating Hertha is a wrong thing that you, me and even others who lost also in this match.
on the other hand for Hamburgers they are also consumed by their own tactics which indeed this is not the form of game they want.

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It was a really unfortunate situation for Hamburg. They lost the second leg by 0-2 home which prevented them from promoting to the Bundesliga. I still am surprised about this because I was waiting for a stronger performance than this. But Hamburg were just terrible in the first half. Maybe they started fixing their problems in the other half but it was still not quite enough to make it to the Bundesliga. I believed that Hamburg deserved this league more than Hertha Berlin considering the recent performances in their leagues especially.

Frankly speaking, I was expecting Hamburg to play in the Bundesliga next season. They indeed deserve to get the promotion, because their performance in the Bundesliga 2 was decent and commendable. Although, they ended at the 3rd place, but conceded the lowest goals in the Bundesliga 2 last season. Unfortunately for them, they couldn't withstand Hertha Berlin in the second leg. Despite winning the first leg of the Relegation play off. However, congratulations to Hertha Berlin.

To be honest I had my doubts about Hamburger but I had my trust in them more than Hertha. I say that I had my doubts about Hamburger because they were playing against an opponent that has played in the Bundesliga five times consistently. So I believe it was obviously hard for Hamburger to win against Hertha. But the type of performance that Hamburger showed and also that type of performance that Hertha showed, I honestly thought Hamburger might have a good chance. And they actually played well in the first leg but that was not enough.

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Quote from: Lafu on May 26, 2022, 10:47:30 AM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 26, 2022, 03:54:38 AM

The question is are they up for the challenge in the 1st Bundesliga, last season if I am not wrong Schalke and Bremen were in the 1st division and failed to keep up with the other teams, so they have fallen down to the 2nd Division this time but I think they would need to fill in the gap on some players or they will need players that even though not the level of Lewandowski of Haaland, can particularly keep up to the expectation to survive the 1st Division next season,

Exactly and yes you are right on that.
We have seen that this season from Stuttgart also lucky they managed to stay in the first German League.
Its always hard for Teams that coming from the second league into the first , even it was only a year.
Schalke and Bremen will dont have it easy and they have to work hard on it to keep them into the first league next season.
New players are mostly needed .

It is obviously a lot harder in the Bundesliga compared to the second Bundesliga. There is obviously a lot of change in the competition. And it is hard for the teams that get promoted to the Bundesliga to cope up with the situation. On another note, we can understand how the competition is different from the top of the Bundesliga to the bottom. There are teams that find it hard to stay after getting promoted and meanwhile we have Bayern Munich which takes the trophies almost every year.

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Quote from: Lafu on May 26, 2022, 10:47:30 AM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 26, 2022, 03:54:38 AM

The question is are they up for the challenge in the 1st Bundesliga, last season if I am not wrong Schalke and Bremen were in the 1st division and failed to keep up with the other teams, so they have fallen down to the 2nd Division this time but I think they would need to fill in the gap on some players or they will need players that even though not the level of Lewandowski of Haaland, can particularly keep up to the expectation to survive the 1st Division next season,

Exactly and yes you are right on that.
We have seen that this season from Stuttgart also lucky they managed to stay in the first German League.
Its always hard for Teams that coming from the second league into the first , even it was only a year.
Schalke and Bremen will dont have it easy and they have to work hard on it to keep the into the first league next season.
New players are mostly needed .

Exactly for Schalke will learn more how they failed last two years on Bundesliga and drop to Bundesliga 2, financial crisis make Schalke drop to Bundesliga 2 and this season success comeback to Bundesliga and try how to be competitive reach top position standing or try keep stay on Bundesliga for next season. I think if Schalke have get financial easy keep stay amd reach top standing position, but if failed get new player on window transfer have possibility back to Bundesliga 2 for next season.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 26, 2022, 03:54:38 AM

The question is are they up for the challenge in the 1st Bundesliga, last season if I am not wrong Schalke and Bremen were in the 1st division and failed to keep up with the other teams, so they have fallen down to the 2nd Division this time but I think they would need to fill in the gap on some players or they will need players that even though not the level of Lewandowski of Haaland, can particularly keep up to the expectation to survive the 1st Division next season,

Exactly and yes you are right on that.
We have seen that this season from Stuttgart also lucky they managed to stay in the first German League.
Its always hard for Teams that coming from the second league into the first , even it was only a year.
Schalke and Bremen will dont have it easy and they have to work hard on it to keep them into the first league next season.
New players are mostly needed .

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on May 25, 2022, 01:45:01 PM

It was a really unfortunate situation for Hamburg. They lost the second leg by 0-2 home which prevented them from promoting to the Bundesliga. I still am surprised about this because I was waiting for a stronger performance than this. But Hamburg were just terrible in the first half. Maybe they started fixing their problems in the other half but it was still not quite enough to make it to the Bundesliga. I believed that Hamburg deserved this league more than Hertha Berlin considering the recent performances in their leagues especially.

Frankly speaking, I was expecting Hamburg to play in the Bundesliga next season. They indeed deserve to get the promotion, because their performance in the Bundesliga 2 was decent and commendable. Although, they ended at the 3rd place, but conceded the lowest goals in the Bundesliga 2 last season. Unfortunately for them, they couldn't withstand Hertha Berlin in the second leg. Despite winning the first leg of the Relegation play off. However, congratulations to Hertha Berlin.

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Quote from: hahay on May 25, 2022, 03:02:07 AM

Anyway, every team that only plays defensively in the second leg after winning in the first leg, mostly when the team implements such a strategy will end up losing. Of course, such a final result is very unfortunate for Hamburg itself, because it failed to compete again in the Bundesliga next season. Whereas Hamburg this season they have a pretty good defense, because if we look at their statistics at least we will get a record where Hamburg is the team that has conceded the fewest goals. With these achievements I think Hamburg deserves to be back in the Bundesliga next season but yes, they failed in the second leg which made them have to fight again in the 2. Bundesliga next season.

Hamburg will really need to try their best the next season, if they want to come back to the Bundesliga 1st Division, in this game I really think that they have the advantage but I think Hertha BSC had pulled a mind game over Hamburger SV, but I don't really want to say that they lose the 1st leg on purpose but that is just my speculation, they have lost the 1st leg so Hamburg SV could lower their guard down, or underestimated Hertha on the 2nd leg, and because Hertha just needs to win 1 leg to pretty much stay on the Bundesliga, well a good tactic but if Hamburger SV really is hungry for a victory they will not let their guard down at all cost and win that game, Well let's just move on on what happen with the game, and hope they do great in the next season,

Quote from: mia_houston on May 25, 2022, 03:02:52 AM

Now we have got 2 teams that will be participating in the bundesliga next season, schalke and bremen have confirmed their place to replace Bielefield and Furth in the bundesliga after successfully becoming the leader in the bundesliga 2 this season, while third place, hertha berlin managed to maintain an aggregate winning in the match Final play off against Hamburger, Hertha Berlin journey to survive in the Bundesliga is indeed quite extraordinary this season, after the defeat in the 1st leg of the play-off, Hertha Berlin managed to beat Hamburger with a score of 2-0 in leg 2 while ensuring they stay in the Bundesliga next season.

The question is are they up for the challenge in the 1st Bundesliga, last season if I am not wrong Schalke and Bremen were in the 1st division and failed to keep up with the other teams, so they have fallen down to the 2nd Division this time but I think they would need to fill in the gap on some players or they will need players that even though not the level of Lewandowski of Haaland, can particularly keep up to the expectation to survive the 1st Division next season,

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Quote from: el kaka22 on May 26, 2022, 12:49:44 AM

I am not sure if these two teams will provide anything big. The teams that go from bundesliga 2 to bundesliga 1 usually end up at around mid table and that would be the best they will do for a while. There is a reason why they dropped and there is a reason why they won't be good and they are the same reasons. When a team is not managed properly, it is usually quite normal for people to not find anything decent in those teams because it is rare for them to do better.

I guess that management will do the same mistakes, the team will not be getting richer and not going to find amazing players and we are going to end up with them being bad in a few seasons again.

The two teams that have been promoted this season have a long history in the Bundesliga and they have made many achievements in the previous Bundesliga, we cannot deny that Schalke and Bremen have had their golden years in the Bundesliga, I have high expectations this season if both teams, especially Schalke, can provide a lot of competition in the main bundesliga next season, but I quite applaud schalke who still have a great mentality and it's proven they are only one season in bundesliga 2 and now they are back up to the highest caste of the german league.

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