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The german politician Lauterbach says that its possible a wrong Signal to start the German League !

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Neustart "setzt möglicherweise falsches Signal"
Mit einem ausführlichen Hygienekonzept will die DFL sicherstellen, dass der Ball in der Bundesliga bald wieder rollt. Doch SPD-Politiker Lauterbach kritisiert den möglichen Neustart. Der Gesundheitsexperte warnt im ntv-Interview vor dem Signal, dass man gerade für junge Menschen setze.

https://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/videos/sport/Neustart-setzt-moeglicherweise-falsches-Signal-article21738691.html

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The Restart "may send a wrong signal"
With a detailed hygiene concept the DFL wants to ensure that the Bundesliga will starts soon again. But SPD politician Lauterbach criticizes the possible restart.
In the ntv interview the health expert warns of the signal that it is especially for young people.

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I've seen Bayen's training session back before the COVID and is a nightmare for players.

8 players for session, gym's machines on the field, disinfection every time they use the machine, mah.

It is one of the most weird training sessions players have experienced in their career and for most of us who have seen training session photos. I saw the shoot session of Bayer that makes me very surprising. We did not see such train method in the past. Maybe strikers will shoot in-goal more when matches resume.

It is only weird with training, for matches and some proposal from medical staffs to force players wearing facemasks, I think it is unrealistic from what we see the way they have trained. There is no facemask worn by players in training sessions.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on April 23, 2020, 11:07:10 AM

Looks like the Bundesliga executives are ready to restart the league (1st division and 2nd division), but according to this article^[1], it all comes down the Goverment's approval.

Btw, the article mentions that handshakes before kick-off will not be allowed, which is a small thing most leagues implemented when the pandemic was in the early stages and we still had football action but, does anyone else thinks this is pointless? I mean, players touch each other all the time, spit and sweat is all over the pitch Roll Eyes

Anyways, question: Once the league returns, should we avoid moneyline for a few couples of weeks? Players have been innactive for a long ass time so things might feel like they just came back from the pre-season, it's gonna take some time for them to get back in shape (both physically and mentally). What do you guys think? yay or nay?

1. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8248727/Coronavirus-Bundesliga-bosses-sign-9-return-25-000-tests-needed.html

Yes, top's Leagues want to start in May under government's approval.
They need to start too much money on the basket.

I've seen Bayen's training session back before the COVID and is a nightmare for players.

8 players for session, gym's machines on the field, disinfection every time they use the machine, mah.

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So did anybody get or have got some news about the meeting from the DFL managment ?
I just can find some news from the 21 April thats looks are the latest.
Or did i missed something ? Just readed that there is 40 Page document about how the clubs wanted to handle all the Games and the things.

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Quote from: bullrun2024bro on April 24, 2020, 07:32:28 AM

We might see games behind closed doors for a longer period of time. Christian Seifert, chief executive officer of the DFL just informed the Bundesliga clubs that it's likely that we will see matches behind closed doors for the first half of the upcoming season. The German newspaper Bild reported on the topic.

Quote from: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1253427310675374086

Christian Seifert: "We've asked the clubs to plan the first part of next season also without spectators" [Bild]

Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1253427310675374086

This is going to be not easy for any country hopefully we will be normal next year if vaccine will available otherwise this can take some more long time we will watches matches on tv instead of in stadiums.

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Yeah, Bundesliga makes a bit more sense, I have said before that Germany wasn't having the trouble some other nations are having and if they can find a way to avoid travelling a lot (like have all teams play at one stadium for example) it would be actually fine, they do not need to travel because there will no zero viewers on the stadiums anyway so it makes no sense whose "home court" advantage it is.

Plus if they do this now, they will have a lot more time to stay at home and isolate themselves all summer, think about leagues that are not even remotely close to opening, all those players are still waiting and trying to hope they will get over with it as well while Germans will just be over with. Anyone has any idea what they will do about players who are not in Germany right now? Airlines are all closed so I don't know if any player who is not in Germany can actually come back or not.

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Also I doubt players were that inactive, and if they were all of them were so there is not like a spesific team that will suddenly get worse. I think they are not ready to play a game just yet but that includes ALL players, but for conditioning I think they are rich enough to have expensive equipment at home and they probably tried to keep themselves in shape as much as they can. Which means we are not suddenly start seeing people who run 90 minutes per game to suddenly go out of breath in a minute.

However you can check which teams are bringing which players, we don't know if some players will stay at home instead, or if someone has virus that we don't realiez, I mean depending on the rosters there could be some sort of changes but I am %99 sure that will reflect on the odds as well anyway.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on April 23, 2020, 11:07:10 AM

Anyways, question: Once the league returns, should we avoid moneyline for a few couples of weeks? Players have been innactive for a long ass time so things might feel like they just came back from the pre-season, it's gonna take some time for them to get back in shape (both physically and mentally). What do you guys think? yay or nay?

Definitely no. It means risk and opportunity and you should always be opportunistic with betting, while managing your risk. What does that mean ? Do your due dilligence and don't jump all-in stake-wise right from the start, unless you have very good information/insight. There will be surprises and some crazy results, just like in a "normal" beginning of a season, but this should result in some nice value odds to be found as well. As always, more value is available inplay, so just watch some matches and observe. This will give you some good information on which you can probably base a live bet/trade or, if not, this information can be useful for the next round.

I like beginnings of a season and also look forward to the betting markets after this crisis, because markets will be more imperfect, which is a good thing.

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We might see games behind closed doors for a longer period of time. Christian Seifert, chief executive officer of the DFL just informed the Bundesliga clubs that it's likely that we will see matches behind closed doors for the first half of the upcoming season. The German newspaper Bild reported on the topic.

Quote from: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1253427310675374086

Christian Seifert: "We've asked the clubs to plan the first part of next season also without spectators" [Bild]

Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1253427310675374086

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on April 23, 2020, 11:07:10 AM

Looks like the Bundesliga executives are ready to restart the league (1st division and 2nd division), but according to this article^[1], it all comes down the Goverment's approval.

Btw, the article mentions that handshakes before kick-off will not be allowed, which is a small thing most leagues implemented when the pandemic was in the early stages and we still had football action but, does anyone else thinks this is pointless? I mean, players touch each other all the time, spit and sweat is all over the pitch Roll Eyes

Anyways, question: Once the league returns, should we avoid moneyline for a few couples of weeks? Players have been innactive for a long ass time so things might feel like they just came back from the pre-season, it's gonna take some time for them to get back in shape (both physically and mentally). What do you guys think? yay or nay?

1. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8248727/Coronavirus-Bundesliga-bosses-sign-9-return-25-000-tests-needed.html

Yes, as I was expected the Bundesliga will restart to continue the league faster than others because a better situation in Germany.
I think since they were doing the work out at home, etc ... won't take too much time for them to get back in shape. But, I think will start with low as 0.3 bets or even lower and wait for a few weeks to go. thanks for article btw

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it becomes more and more concrete...

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Bundesliga gears up for May return - Germany currently conducts 818,000 Covid-19 tests

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Games will take place behind closed doors without fans. In the Bundesliga, 98 persons on and around the pitch and 115 persons in the stands are planned for a maximum of 213 persons in the stadium.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/news/view?id=359254

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on April 23, 2020, 08:06:18 AM

At the moment there is even overcapacity in regards to testing as the german health minister announced yesterday. We could do more, but less demand than supply actually, so extensive testing of Bundesliga players should be doable. I heard it costs 2.5mln Euro for Bundesliga, so no biggie too. I still think, it's good to give it a try with resuming Bundesliga, but if that experiment fails, there will be huge shitstorm of course. But I think everything will be fine health-wise and lots of people will be happy with some football going on again (including me).

Such testing cost is feasible for teams because the financial benefits they can get back when Bundesliga resumes and finishes will be bigger. Costs have to be spent first and benefits will be get back months later. Players are strong guys and most of them will be fine even they get infected with the virus. There will be some cases will have severe conditions but not too many. With whole population, the CFR (case fatality ratio) for the young guys fluctuates about 0.2%. I think if we ask players that they want to resume the league and play or not, they will say yes.

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I didn't come across such statistics with the antibodies. Hospitals and blood donour facilities have started calling recovered people to check for antibodies, but the tests seem to give false-positives more often than not and are not yet reliable. So people might feel kind of safe, when actually they are not. And capacity-wise the system is not yet ready for some antibody-testing-tourism, to have bigger sample sizes and draw more viable conclusions.

Thanks. False positive with antibody test is always a problem. Even with Realtime PCR test, there are false positive results too because of there are some steps to prepare and treat samples before going to test them.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on April 23, 2020, 11:07:10 AM

Looks like the Bundesliga executives are ready to restart the league (1st division and 2nd division), but according to this article^[1], it all comes down the Goverment's approval.

Btw, the article mentions that handshakes before kick-off will not be allowed, which is a small thing most leagues implemented when the pandemic was in the early stages and we still had football action but, does anyone else thinks this is pointless? I mean, players touch each other all the time, spit and sweat is all over the pitch Roll Eyes

Anyways, question: Once the league returns, should we avoid moneyline for a few couples of weeks? Players have been innactive for a long ass time so things might feel like they just came back from the pre-season, it's gonna take some time for them to get back in shape (both physically and mentally). What do you guys think? yay or nay?

1. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8248727/Coronavirus-Bundesliga-bosses-sign-9-return-25-000-tests-needed.html

Might be an idea to avoid ML yeah, maybe over x.5 or under x.5 goals bets or both teams to score etc.
I’m just glad we’ll finally have some top level football to watch again.

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Looks like the Bundesliga executives are ready to restart the league (1st division and 2nd division), but according to this article^[1], it all comes down the Goverment's approval.

Btw, the article mentions that handshakes before kick-off will not be allowed, which is a small thing most leagues implemented when the pandemic was in the early stages and we still had football action but, does anyone else thinks this is pointless? I mean, players touch each other all the time, spit and sweat is all over the pitch Roll Eyes

Anyways, question: Once the league returns, should we avoid moneyline for a few couples of weeks? Players have been innactive for a long ass time so things might feel like they just came back from the pre-season, it's gonna take some time for them to get back in shape (both physically and mentally). What do you guys think? yay or nay?

1. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8248727/Coronavirus-Bundesliga-bosses-sign-9-return-25-000-tests-needed.html

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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on April 23, 2020, 07:43:08 AM

Germany has done massive tests and it will be good if the government expand their total daily number of tests. I have a curious question that the nation has such statistics on percent of blood donors have virus-antibodies?

At the moment there is even overcapacity in regards to testing as the german health minister announced yesterday. We could do more, but less demand than supply actually, so extensive testing of Bundesliga players should be doable. I heard it costs 2.5mln Euro for Bundesliga, so no biggie too. I still think, it's good to give it a try with resuming Bundesliga, but if that experiment fails, there will be huge shitstorm of course. But I think everything will be fine health-wise and lots of people will be happy with some football going on again (including me).

I didn't come across such statistics with the antibodies. Hospitals and blood donour facilities have started calling recovered people to check for antibodies, but the tests seem to give false-positives more often than not and are not yet reliable. So people might feel kind of safe, when actually they are not. And capacity-wise the system is not yet ready for some antibody-testing-tourism, to have bigger sample sizes and draw more viable conclusions.

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on April 21, 2020, 10:16:30 AM

I think it's fine to start Bundesliga again. When you are doing 100k+ tests per day and constantly increase that number, 20k+ additional tests over a span of several weeks really shouldn't be an issue. It's all about money in the end and weighing the options/risks. TV broadcaster has already made the fourth and last payment to DFL (and thus to the teams), so they are surely putting some pressure on. And there are lots of other contracts, that would lead to mayhem if conditions aren't met in case the season is cancelled.

Lots of teams are on life support financially imo, so any money they can make, is appreciated.

It will be a win win situation for teams and the community. In the pandemic, it is good for clubs if they can finish the season that will help them to have good chance to have a normal season next year. In turn, the finished season and next normal one can help them to secure their income. Rather than running promotions, it is good if teams spend part of their promotion funds to help communities and get some benefits back.\

Germany has done massive tests and it will be good if the government expand their total daily number of tests. I have a curious question that the nation has such statistics on percent of blood donors have virus-antibodies?

I see that one in Netherlands: https://nltimes.nl/2020/04/16/3-dutch-blood-donors-covid-19-antibodies, around 3% of blood donors have antibodies, and the percent is higher at younger donors.

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The Bavarian Minister Söder said today in his press conference that it would be good that the League come back playing specialy for the Weekends and the mental health for People.
The League and Germany can efford the testings specialy for this.
Also there are some few things they want to talk about how the things should be managed.
I looking excited forward to the result about the DFL meeting.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on April 23, 2020, 04:45:26 AM

I’m not sure how they’re pulling this off but the league is all set to resume on May 9th, and if they’re successful in finishing their season then other leagues too will follow their model.

I don't think any other league would hurry to resume as well, simply cause they did so in Germany. Countries handled the virus outbreak differently and this would reflect in how quickly they can begin to see improvements.
This was one of the reasons the UCL season was cancelled, as it involves clubs from different regions playing against each other, further increasing the chances of the virus spreading.

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One oft the biggest league in Europe the German will Start at 9. May, sorry but i can't find a english article...

https://kurier.at/sport/fussball/ende-der-corona-krise-geisterspiele-in-deutschland-koennten-am-9-mai-beginnen/400818398

it starts with strict requirements regarding the number of staff and the hygene in the stadium.

Great news, finally some proper football to watch.

Here’s an English article bro - http://www.goal.com/en/amp/news/german-prime-ministers-claim-bundesliga-could-return-on-may/1rjss0l521bnh1jub5rvaeng3o

If the German bundesliga only is we all can get at the earliest possible for now, I definitely wouldn't mind.

It's been far too long without any football action for me.

You are right its really frustrating without soccer and now time for some action we can hope about Bundesliga as many positive and good news coming from Germany hopefully this could be first league to return in action even with empty stadiums but still love to watch this all.

I’m not sure how they’re pulling this off but the league is all set to resume on May 9th, and if they’re successful in finishing their season then other leagues too will follow their model.

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on April 23, 2020, 03:59:05 AM

I heard there will be around 300 people present in the stadiums (players, staff, ballboys, security, TV people etc.)

300 people is a good number, it's really going to be risky having more people than that, it's not what anyone imagined four months ago, but now I'll feel better if the numbers in the stadium could even be lesser than 300, so there is no risk or a spark of an outbreak due to the games which may pause the league again, and for a long time.

But wouldn't the German league be leaving the other leagues in Europe behind, like if the manage to restart and finish this season, when the EPL, LA liga, Seria A and others are still waiting for better conditions to restart, it's going to be very strange, they being so far ahead of others.

@coyster that’s the minimum number of people estimated to be in the stadium during the match, and the number of required people may even increase and therefore for the sake of football I’m hoping that no one tests positive before or after the match ends.

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https://www.dw.com/en/germany-bundesliga-return-to-action-on-may-9-definitely-possible/a-53193629

https://www.ft.com/content/0ecb1f37-0bef-4681-ba03-ad4a1e6ed98f

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on April 23, 2020, 03:59:05 AM

I heard there will be around 300 people present in the stadiums (players, staff, ballboys, security, TV people etc.)

300 people is a good number, it's really going to be risky having more people than that, it's not what anyone imagined four months ago, but now I'll feel better if the numbers in the stadium could even be lesser than 300, so there is no risk or a spark of an outbreak due to the games which may pause the league again, and for a long time.

But wouldn't the German league be leaving the other leagues in Europe behind, like if the manage to restart and finish this season, when the EPL, LA liga, Seria A and others are still waiting for better conditions to restart, it's going to be very strange, they being so far ahead of others.

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