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Quote from: ThemePen on August 21, 2024, 07:33:05 PM

I also think Dortmund has good chance of doing well with their new manager Nuri Sahin. But it is normal to have some doubts. When we look at their past games against Frankfurt we can see that Dortmund usually does well. They have strong record against Frankfurt especially when playing at home. Just like you I also think Dortmund might win this game. But you mentioned Guirassy who joined Dortmund from Stuttgart. He has not played game for Dortmund yet and I don't know if he is healthy enough to play this weekend. If he can play I think he could make big difference and help Dortmund win. But without checking his more games we can not say anything at this time.

The doubts can be seen from the squad they have and maybe when talking about the new coach there are many things that need to be done. Adapting is a problem because the new coach has to try to find a match for the strategy and training pattern that they apply. Because using the previous coach's pattern will make it difficult for him to match the playing style of his players. Dortmund is actually one of the teams in the Bundesliga that has the ability to compete in the top four, but when it comes to the title fight I still have a little doubt about their ability.

Need to see several matches to conclude Nuri Sahin's ability and what we hope this season they can provide equal resistance to Bayern Munich, Leverkusen and several other strong teams. It is not necessarily true to draw conclusions too quickly because it could be that the new coach is much more capable of handling Dortmund.

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Quote from: Pandorak on August 21, 2024, 07:25:22 PM

The first match is important because from the first match those teams can see how they will be in the future & also serves as a foundation for subsequent matches. There are 4 matches in the first week of the Bundesliga that are interesting to me, they are the matches:

1. Borussia Mönchengladbach - Leverkusen
2. Freiburg - Vfb Stuttgart
3. Borussia Dortmund - Frankfurt
4. Wolfsburg - Bayern Munich

I will bet on top clubs like Leverkusen, Stuttgart, Dortmund and Bayern Munich in the first Bundesliga match later and hopefully it will not disappoint, but what makes me a little hesitant is maybe betting on Stuttgart because he will play away but I will choose Double Chance Draw / Stuttgart, for Leverkusen I do not hesitate to bet on his victory even though he plays away because I believe Leverkusen is still very strong in the Bundesliga and against Mönchengladbach. Regarding Dortmund and Bayern Munich they will definitely also win their first match their chances of winning are quite big in this match.

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Quote from: bering on August 21, 2024, 05:30:22 PM

Dortmund is under new manager Nuri Sahin so we still don't know whether they will be performing good or not so it's normal of people were doubt but lets analyze more and according to their head to head statistics Dortmund and Frankfurt have been met plenty in all competitions and Dortmund has good records from Frankfurt even at their home Dortmund last lost from Frankfurt was happened on 2021 and since that year Dortmund is still unbeated during playing at Signal Iduna Park

For bets option Dortmund win probably could be good pick for this match because Dortmund has good chances to be the winner of this match but regarding Guirassy i was look for update news about him but i couldn't found it and i am not sure he is in the good fitness or not because since transfered from Stuttgart Guirassy hasn't make his debut match yet and if he played this weekend i think Guirassy will make a different for Dortmund

I also think Dortmund has good chance of doing well with their new manager Nuri Sahin. But it is normal to have some doubts. When we look at their past games against Frankfurt we can see that Dortmund usually does well. They have strong record against Frankfurt especially when playing at home. Just like you I also think Dortmund might win this game. But you mentioned Guirassy who joined Dortmund from Stuttgart. He has not played game for Dortmund yet and I don't know if he is healthy enough to play this weekend. If he can play I think he could make big difference and help Dortmund win. But without checking his more games we can not say anything at this time.

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[...] The opening match is important for every team as every team wants to start the opening match by scoring 3 points. Bayern Munich's opening match against Wolfsburg where the statistics must keep Bayern Munich ahead. If Bayern Munich don't make too many mistakes in the match and play their normal game, Bayern Munich can definitely get three points in the opening match. Bayern Munich first match I will definitely bet on bayan munich hope they don't let us down.

The first match is important because from the first match those teams can see how they will be in the future & also serves as a foundation for subsequent matches. There are 4 matches in the first week of the Bundesliga that are interesting to me, they are the matches:

1. Borussia Mönchengladbach - Leverkusen
2. Freiburg - Vfb Stuttgart
3. Borussia Dortmund - Frankfurt
4. Wolfsburg - Bayern Munich

Choosing Bayern Munich is almost always a good choice, i have seen the odds on their match against Wolfsburg, even though they will play away, they don't get a chance that is bigger than my expectations, it looks like they will get 3 points.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on August 21, 2024, 04:58:06 PM

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Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2024, 02:37:56 PM

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What happened to Bayern Munich last season they don’t want that should repeat his self that’s why they really looks ready for this new season, because all the fans where expecting that their will end the season with good outcome but they definitely disappointed themselves, according to how the people are hyped them this season that their performances is probably improved we shall be wait and see how the season is going to be and see how there new manager can treat the team.

In as much as German Bundesliga is concerned, we are almost certain that Bayern Munich will always be at the top of the competition either winning it or being in the second position. But with the introduction of a new coach who is a young coach in that matter, I see everything as a set up for Vincent Kompany. I mean, Kompany will not be rated for doing anything good if he doesn't win the Bundesliga. Any result less than winning the Bundesliga and beating Bayern Leverkusen is nothing. This is why I think the whole situation is unfair to the young manager. Nobody will care that it is his first season and I don't think that anyone will be ready to give him a second chance is he doesn't meet the expectations this season. This is where it's so bad for Kompany. He has no option than to succeed. No one is willing to listen to his own side of the story. I really feel for him and as well wish him well in this season's outing.

We will be able to judge how Bayern Munich performs under Kompany on Sunday, Wolfsburg will be their first test of the season, whether they will record satisfactory results or vice versa. Concerns about Bayern Munich consistency this season are very reasonable in my opinion, Kompany must work extra hard to face every challenge in the Bundesliga and Champions League. So far Kompany has polished his squad by bringing in new players, and releasing some old players, the goal is of course to be able to achieve the targets imposed on him and remove the fans doubts.

When looking at Bayern Munich reputation in the Bundesliga, it seems that they will dominate again and seize the trophy back from Leverkusen. However, when we look at Kompany, there is no excessive expectation, winning the Bundesliga trophy is more than enough. While in the Champions League, Kompany needs to hone his abilities to be able to surpass other elite teams. It is very possible that Kompany will be sacked mid-season if his team suffers a setback and fails to compete at the top of the standings. For a new manager like Kompany, this is all a gamble, and he was certainly prepared for the risks when he accepted the offer to succeed Thomas Tuchel.

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Quote from: len01 on August 21, 2024, 01:39:44 PM

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Being a favorite does not necessarily mean getting good results and even though there are currently some new players in the dortmund team. it cannot be used as a benchmark, especially since the first match will be difficult to predict, so for now there is no need to have high expectations for dortmund, we cannot yet be sure of dortmund's strength in the bundesliga, especially since the opponent they will face is eintracht frankfurt and is not a team that can be defeated easily, and as you said they finished in 6th place in the final standings that makes everything clear.
both teams have the same chance of getting positive results.

From several pages of this thread I read a lot of people who doubt Dortmund match to get 3 points in this match. Come on guys, we have to be more realistic in looking at the squads of both teams.
I know that Dortmund is just a team that thinks about the business of selling players and even some players have been sold to other teams, but what about the arrival of Guirassy? Won't this help?

Let's go deeper. If you talk about Frankfurt achievements last season, you should also consider whether Frankfurt achievements were only last season or have been below Dortmund several times. And we also have to see how these two teams met on the field in H2H statistics.

Dortmund vs Frankfurt (3-1)
Frankfurt vs Dortmund (3-3)
Dortmund vs Frankfurt (4-0)
Frankfurt vs Dortmund (1-2)
Frankfurt vs Dortmund (2-3)

From these statistics it might be clearer if Frankfurt has only ever drawn once when at home. While this match took place at Dortmund home.
Odds Dortmund @1.71 and Frankfurt @4.50. It was clear this would be a Dortmund win.

Dortmund is under new manager Nuri Sahin so we still don't know whether they will be performing good or not so it's normal of people were doubt but lets analyze more and according to their head to head statistics Dortmund and Frankfurt have been met plenty in all competitions and Dortmund has good records from Frankfurt even at their home Dortmund last lost from Frankfurt was happened on 2021 and since that year Dortmund is still unbeated during playing at Signal Iduna Park

For bets option Dortmund win probably could be good pick for this match because Dortmund has good chances to be the winner of this match but regarding Guirassy i was look for update news about him but i couldn't found it and i am not sure he is in the good fitness or not because since transfered from Stuttgart Guirassy hasn't make his debut match yet and if he played this weekend i think Guirassy will make a different for Dortmund

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Bayern Munich looks ready for the new season and with the new manager they should be able to bounce back from last season’s disappointing performance and also with the addition of Michel Olise they should be even more stronger. There is no doubt about Harry Kane scoring goals as usual, he might probably score as many goals as he did last season and probably get his goal scoring account opened in the first game of the season i just hope this time his goals get him a trophy.

Kompany looks like a manager that knows what he is doing that’s why i have faith in me. He should be able to beat Leverkusen this season and win the title this season at least.

From all indications, this season will be a successful season for Bayern Munich because Vincent Komapany is shaping the team to a good performing team that will be very difficult to predict and very difficult to defeat, and from their preseason games, they looks very sharp and their performances so far in the preseason has shown how well prepared they are for this season.
I think if the league starts, people that are doubting Vincent Kompany will stop if he is able to start wining his matches, and for people thinking that Leverkusen will have the same performance as last season, it will never be because they don’t look good this season, and their patter of football has been tracked which will be very difficult for Alonso to change easily and winning the title again this season will be difficult.

Why not wait until the middle of the season when you see the performance of Bayern Munich and their position before you determine where they are going to end this season for now I think it is still too early to talk about how they are going to perform. Bayern Munich is a great team but the problem lies on their ability of the coach Vincent Kompany to be able to manage the players properly to get a better performance.

They had a good result in the pre season games more better performance then the current champions Leverkusen but that doesn't mean they will win the league next season if they don't perform well so let's wait till they start the new season before giving them Al the praises.

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Quote from: AYOBA on August 21, 2024, 04:47:46 PM

What happened to Bayern Munich last season they don’t want that should repeat his self that’s why they really looks ready for this new season, because all the fans where expecting that their will end the season with good outcome but they definitely disappointed themselves, according to how the people are hyped them this season that their performances is probably improved we shall be wait and see how the season is going to be and see how there new manager can treat the team.

Well not wanting what happened last season to repeat itself isn't just enough but to put in the necessary works to avoid it, Bayern Munich is doing their best as to putting in the much needed work but they will need to do more before the competition in their league gets too fiercy that they may not be able to meet up with the pressure they will have to handle if they will have to be ahead just like as they will wish to. I still have a good faith in what Bayern Munich can achieve actually but Leverkusen and others should be kept on the watch too as these people ain't no jokes.

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Quote from: AYOBA on August 21, 2024, 04:47:46 PM

Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2024, 02:37:56 PM

Bayern Munich looks ready for the new season and with the new manager they should be able to bounce back from last season’s disappointing performance and also with the addition of Michel Olise they should be even more stronger. There is no doubt about Harry Kane scoring goals as usual, he might probably score as many goals as he did last season and probably get his goal scoring account opened in the first game of the season i just hope this time his goals get him a trophy.

Kompany looks like a manager that knows what he is doing that’s why i have faith in me. He should be able to beat Leverkusen this season and win the title this season at least.

What happened to Bayern Munich last season they don’t want that should repeat his self that’s why they really looks ready for this new season, because all the fans where expecting that their will end the season with good outcome but they definitely disappointed themselves, according to how the people are hyped them this season that their performances is probably improved we shall be wait and see how the season is going to be and see how there new manager can treat the team.

In as much as German Bundesliga is concerned, we are almost certain that Bayern Munich will always be at the top of the competition either winning it or being in the second position. But with the introduction of a new coach who is a young coach in that matter, I see everything as a set up for Vincent Kompany. I mean, Kompany will not be rated for doing anything good if he doesn't win the Bundesliga. Any result less than winning the Bundesliga and beating Bayern Leverkusen is nothing. This is why I think the whole situation is unfair to the young manager. Nobody will care that it is his first season and I don't think that anyone will be ready to give him a second chance is he doesn't meet the expectations this season. This is where it's so bad for Kompany. He has no option than to succeed. No one is willing to listen to his own side of the story. I really feel for him and as well wish him well in this season's outing.

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Quote from: len01 on August 21, 2024, 01:39:44 PM

Let's go deeper. If you talk about Frankfurt achievements last season, you should also consider whether Frankfurt achievements were only last season or have been below Dortmund several times. And we also have to see how these two teams met on the field in H2H statistics.

Dortmund vs Frankfurt (3-1)
Frankfurt vs Dortmund (3-3)
Dortmund vs Frankfurt (4-0)
Frankfurt vs Dortmund (1-2)
Frankfurt vs Dortmund (2-3)

I think for now it is a little difficult if the benchmark is aimed at their h2h because seeing from what is happening at the moment Dortmund are in a phase of overhaul where they bring in several new players and coaches so although it can be used as an option, I think it is difficult to be a strong reference if the benchmark for betting is their h2h statistics especially this is the first match for the Bundesliga.

But indeed until now it is not wrong to see Dortmund as favorites in this match because even though they still need adaptation with new players and coaches, they also have advantages in terms of players in terms of quality and playing at Signal Iduna Park certainly gives good hope that they can get 3 points in the first week when the Bundesliga starts again.

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Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2024, 02:37:56 PM

Bayern Munich looks ready for the new season and with the new manager they should be able to bounce back from last season’s disappointing performance and also with the addition of Michel Olise they should be even more stronger. There is no doubt about Harry Kane scoring goals as usual, he might probably score as many goals as he did last season and probably get his goal scoring account opened in the first game of the season i just hope this time his goals get him a trophy.

Kompany looks like a manager that knows what he is doing that’s why i have faith in me. He should be able to beat Leverkusen this season and win the title this season at least.

What happened to Bayern Munich last season they don’t want that should repeat his self that’s why they really looks ready for this new season, because all the fans where expecting that their will end the season with good outcome but they definitely disappointed themselves, according to how the people are hyped them this season that their performances is probably improved we shall be wait and see how the season is going to be and see how there new manager can treat the team.

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Quote from: Abu-Naim on August 21, 2024, 03:58:52 PM

From all indications, this season will be a successful season for Bayern Munich because Vincent Komapany is shaping the team to a good performing team that will be very difficult to predict and very difficult to defeat, and from their preseason games, they looks very sharp and their performances so far in the preseason has shown how well prepared they are for this season.
I think if the league starts, people that are doubting Vincent Kompany will stop if he is able to start wining his matches, and for people thinking that Leverkusen will have the same performance as last season, it will never be because they don’t look good this season, and their patter of football has been tracked which will be very difficult for Alonso to change easily and winning the title again this season will be difficult.

Die hard Bayern fan, aren't you?
It's way too soon to make judgement on whether Kompany is the right guy for the job. They took a massive gamble on hiring a manager with so little experience, and calling him successful after a few friendlies is a bit of a stretch.
No one has doubt that Bayern will win many games this season, they'd do so even without a manager, but it's a question of whether Kompany will be able to stabilise the team on a high level and get consistently good results.

Similarily, saying Leverkusen doesn't look good this season before the season even started is silly. They've just won the DFL Supercup against Stuttgart. They might have not impressed in their friendly games, but the same could be said at the same time last year.

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Quote from: Nheer on August 21, 2024, 02:37:56 PM

Bayern Munich looks ready for the new season and with the new manager they should be able to bounce back from last season’s disappointing performance and also with the addition of Michel Olise they should be even more stronger. There is no doubt about Harry Kane scoring goals as usual, he might probably score as many goals as he did last season and probably get his goal scoring account opened in the first game of the season i just hope this time his goals get him a trophy.

Kompany looks like a manager that knows what he is doing that’s why i have faith in me. He should be able to beat Leverkusen this season and win the title this season at least.

From all indications, this season will be a successful season for Bayern Munich because Vincent Komapany is shaping the team to a good performing team that will be very difficult to predict and very difficult to defeat, and from their preseason games, they looks very sharp and their performances so far in the preseason has shown how well prepared they are for this season.
I think if the league starts, people that are doubting Vincent Kompany will stop if he is able to start wining his matches, and for people thinking that Leverkusen will have the same performance as last season, it will never be because they don’t look good this season, and their patter of football has been tracked which will be very difficult for Alonso to change easily and winning the title again this season will be difficult.

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Gladbach - Leverkusen... You know Gladbach had serious problems in the previous season. They barely stayed away from the 16th position not to be in play-out games. Sad

While they are away from their good old times, I feel like it is an opportunity for Leverkusen to make a good start. I know it is a new season and we don't know how Gladbach will start this time. However they haven't made big changes in their squad. Gerardo Seoane is also still managing the team. Considering how Leverkusen started the season too, I think it will reflect on the Bundesliga. A decent win is what I expect. Wink

But in fact, Bayer Leverkusen is still better than Monchengladbach because after all, in the available head to head records, Bayer Leverkusen has always been a difficult opponent for Monchengladbach because Bayer Leverkusen also has a good winning dominance when playing against Monchengladbach. Thus, even though "if" Bayer Leverkusen is not in a very impressive trend like last season, basically Monchengladbach always finds it difficult to beat Bayer Leverkusen.

With these considerations, I think the opening match of the Bundesliga between Monchengladbach v Bayer Leverkusen, I personally believe that Bayer Leverkusen will still be able to get its first three points. So yes, the factor about the squad and also the Monchengladbach coach, I personally don't really care about it because what is clear is that Monchengladbach does not have a good chance of winning this match.

Bayern Leverkusen are superior to Monchengladbach, and I do not believe they will lose to them. If Bayern Munich is currently playing, I believe Monchengladbach has a chance to win fame because they usually suffer Munich when they play together and give them a difficult time in every situation.

This is a new season I'm not sure if Monchengladbach has improved or not they should play first to see if they are better and can defeat Bayern Leverkusen, but it will be difficult to win because they are still in good form and will continue to compete in the league. Xabi Alonso will try to win the Bundesliga again this season before leaving the club. If a coach has superior players, it will be difficult for him to leave since he will love teaching them because they are talented, which is why Guadiola does not want to leave Manchester City and renew his contract with them. Let's see how the Bundesliga will be and whether Bayern Leverkusen will repeat the same like last season without defeat, but he will be difficult this time but anything can happens he can't be predict sometime.

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Quote from: hahay on August 21, 2024, 01:49:27 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on August 21, 2024, 11:52:08 AM

Gladbach - Leverkusen... You know Gladbach had serious problems in the previous season. They barely stayed away from the 16th position not to be in play-out games. Sad

While they are away from their good old times, I feel like it is an opportunity for Leverkusen to make a good start. I know it is a new season and we don't know how Gladbach will start this time. However they haven't made big changes in their squad. Gerardo Seoane is also still managing the team. Considering how Leverkusen started the season too, I think it will reflect on the Bundesliga. A decent win is what I expect. Wink

But in fact, Bayer Leverkusen is still better than Monchengladbach because after all, in the available head to head records, Bayer Leverkusen has always been a difficult opponent for Monchengladbach because Bayer Leverkusen also has a good winning dominance when playing against Monchengladbach. Thus, even though "if" Bayer Leverkusen is not in a very impressive trend like last season, basically Monchengladbach always finds it difficult to beat Bayer Leverkusen.

With these considerations, I think the opening match of the Bundesliga between Monchengladbach v Bayer Leverkusen, I personally believe that Bayer Leverkusen will still be able to get its first three points. So yes, the factor about the squad and also the Monchengladbach coach, I personally don't really care about it because what is clear is that Monchengladbach does not have a good chance of winning this match.

Even if you look at this match logically, Leverkusen have a better chance of winning, no matter what condition they have. It is stronger and superior to the opponent in all parameters. It's enough to look at last season to realise that Monchengladbach are no threat to them: they finished the season in 14th place with a goal difference of -11, a poor result, and I think even a draw is unlikely.

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Quote from: wmaurik on August 21, 2024, 02:58:39 AM

The new Bundesliga season will soon begin and Bayern Munich also immediately get a fairly weak opponent so that there is still a greater chance for Harry Kane to score goals at the beginning of this season. But I just want to see how Kompany will strategize by telling all his players to be able to work together in one team for more satisfying results in the new season. Because it is clear as you said that the instinct to score goals in Harry Kane is still there and it is still not lost in Harry Kane himself.

Bayern Munich looks ready for the new season and with the new manager they should be able to bounce back from last season’s disappointing performance and also with the addition of Michel Olise they should be even more stronger. There is no doubt about Harry Kane scoring goals as usual, he might probably score as many goals as he did last season and probably get his goal scoring account opened in the first game of the season i just hope this time his goals get him a trophy.

Kompany looks like a manager that knows what he is doing that’s why i have faith in me. He should be able to beat Leverkusen this season and win the title this season at least.

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Being a favorite does not necessarily mean getting good results and even though there are currently some new players in the dortmund team. it cannot be used as a benchmark, especially since the first match will be difficult to predict, so for now there is no need to have high expectations for dortmund, we cannot yet be sure of dortmund's strength in the bundesliga, especially since the opponent they will face is eintracht frankfurt and is not a team that can be defeated easily, and as you said they finished in 6th place in the final standings that makes everything clear.
both teams have the same chance of getting positive results.

From several pages of this thread I read a lot of people who doubt Dortmund match to get 3 points in this match. Come on guys, we have to be more realistic in looking at the squads of both teams.
I know that Dortmund is just a team that thinks about the business of selling players and even some players have been sold to other teams, but what about the arrival of Guirassy? Won't this help?

Let's go deeper. If you talk about Frankfurt achievements last season, you should also consider whether Frankfurt achievements were only last season or have been below Dortmund several times. And we also have to see how these two teams met on the field in H2H statistics.

Dortmund vs Frankfurt (3-1)
Frankfurt vs Dortmund (3-3)
Dortmund vs Frankfurt (4-0)
Frankfurt vs Dortmund (1-2)
Frankfurt vs Dortmund (2-3)

From these statistics it might be clearer if Frankfurt has only ever drawn once when at home. While this match took place at Dortmund home.
Odds Dortmund @1.71 and Frankfurt @4.50. It was clear this would be a Dortmund win.

Even without me going back to the statistical records of matches or their Head-to-Head between these two clubs, I can tell you with boldness that Dortmund will most likely defeat Frankfurt in this game, I don't know why Dortmund are being so disregarded this much paterning this their game, now coming back to the H2H records shown here, it has become obvious that Frankfurt didn't even win in any of these their 5 meetings.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 21, 2024, 11:52:08 AM

Gladbach - Leverkusen... You know Gladbach had serious problems in the previous season. They barely stayed away from the 16th position not to be in play-out games. Sad

While they are away from their good old times, I feel like it is an opportunity for Leverkusen to make a good start. I know it is a new season and we don't know how Gladbach will start this time. However they haven't made big changes in their squad. Gerardo Seoane is also still managing the team. Considering how Leverkusen started the season too, I think it will reflect on the Bundesliga. A decent win is what I expect. Wink

But in fact, Bayer Leverkusen is still better than Monchengladbach because after all, in the available head to head records, Bayer Leverkusen has always been a difficult opponent for Monchengladbach because Bayer Leverkusen also has a good winning dominance when playing against Monchengladbach. Thus, even though "if" Bayer Leverkusen is not in a very impressive trend like last season, basically Monchengladbach always finds it difficult to beat Bayer Leverkusen.

With these considerations, I think the opening match of the Bundesliga between Monchengladbach v Bayer Leverkusen, I personally believe that Bayer Leverkusen will still be able to get its first three points. So yes, the factor about the squad and also the Monchengladbach coach, I personally don't really care about it because what is clear is that Monchengladbach does not have a good chance of winning this match.

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Quote from: junder on August 21, 2024, 12:57:27 PM

Being a favorite does not necessarily mean getting good results and even though there are currently some new players in the dortmund team. it cannot be used as a benchmark, especially since the first match will be difficult to predict, so for now there is no need to have high expectations for dortmund, we cannot yet be sure of dortmund's strength in the bundesliga, especially since the opponent they will face is eintracht frankfurt and is not a team that can be defeated easily, and as you said they finished in 6th place in the final standings that makes everything clear.
both teams have the same chance of getting positive results.

From several pages of this thread I read a lot of people who doubt Dortmund match to get 3 points in this match. Come on guys, we have to be more realistic in looking at the squads of both teams.
I know that Dortmund is just a team that thinks about the business of selling players and even some players have been sold to other teams, but what about the arrival of Guirassy? Won't this help?

Let's go deeper. If you talk about Frankfurt achievements last season, you should also consider whether Frankfurt achievements were only last season or have been below Dortmund several times. And we also have to see how these two teams met on the field in H2H statistics.

Dortmund vs Frankfurt (3-1)
Frankfurt vs Dortmund (3-3)
Dortmund vs Frankfurt (4-0)
Frankfurt vs Dortmund (1-2)
Frankfurt vs Dortmund (2-3)

From these statistics it might be clearer if Frankfurt has only ever drawn once when at home. While this match took place at Dortmund home.
Odds Dortmund @1.71 and Frankfurt @4.50. It was clear this would be a Dortmund win.

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Quote from: DanWalker on August 21, 2024, 11:55:06 AM

Borussia Dortmund are definitely the clear favorites to win this match. They have signed many good players and also the 2nd top scorer of the Bundesliga last season, yes I'm talking about Guiressi. But what we have to keep in mind that Eintracht Frankfurt is no low tier team. They have been the top 5 place contender for a while in the Bundesliga for a few seasons. In fact Frankfurt finished just below Borussia Dortmund last season.

But as I have said before, Borussia Dortmund has reinforced their team this season and also have a new coach. It will be very interesting to see how he manages the new team with the new players he got. In my eyes, I think Borussia Dortmund are one of the contenders to win the Bundesliga this season.
But Frankfurt will definitely be a tough team to beat. I think the match will be a draw.

Being a favorite does not necessarily mean getting good results and even though there are currently some new players in the dortmund team. it cannot be used as a benchmark, especially since the first match will be difficult to predict, so for now there is no need to have high expectations for dortmund, we cannot yet be sure of dortmund's strength in the bundesliga, especially since the opponent they will face is eintracht frankfurt and is not a team that can be defeated easily, and as you said they finished in 6th place in the final standings that makes everything clear.
both teams have the same chance of getting positive results.

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