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Quote from: bering on October 28, 2024, 01:48:25 AM

3 loses from 8 matches i think this is not good and i have been notice all of the current loses from Dortmund is came from away matches so it is showed that Dortmund had a problem while playing at their opponents home ground and certainly Dortmund performance is not really good this season even i started to thinking that Dortmund is much better under Edin Terzic rather than under Nuri Sahin this because when Edin Terzic was still in charge Dortmund can able to being an strong contender for Bayern Munich for race title but now their position is out from top 4 and i know the league still have 26 matches remaining but i think if this situation still not change then probably Dortmund will not finish at the top 4

We will watch next match of Dortmund high quality team and Wolfsburg full strength team . Both teams will try to win this match by high margin and Dortmund team has good track record and I think that will be easy win for Dortmund team .

If we watch the track record of Dortmund team and Wolfsburg team then we reach to that point Dortmund is high quality team and they will win this match easily because they won three matches out of 5 matches against Wolfsburg and Wolfsburg only won 1 match and 1 match was draw. Dortmund team moral is low because they have lost two matches consecutively and they are searching win.

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 28, 2024, 11:34:50 AM

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Why do I feel like Bayern Munich unleashed the frustration they got off loosing to Barcelona on bochum in this game they played earlier. We knew Bayern was going to win but I don't think we expected it in this manner and I must command it was not just a good game and victory for Bayern but it was an entertaining game aswell which I see gave Bayern a recovery feel, I think with this I can say for sure, komopanys strategy fits in the bundesliga mostly, a d not as much with the champions League because the productivity is very different and the results aren't anything close to each other.

In fact, Bayern is crushing the outsiders in the Champions League in exactly the same way, it’s just that Barcelona is now stronger than Bayern.
If we look at the losing streak and the teams' desire to break it, then in my opinion the game between Dortmund and Leipzig is worth paying attention to. Leipzig is level with Bayern in first place and is an obvious favorite (so the odds for Dortmund to win will be significant), will this really be a third defeat in a row for Dortmund? I don't believe it.

Dortmund will not again lose in this game after already losing two matches earlier. It will not be an easy game for them but regardless, I don’t see them losing so cheaply in this encounter with Leipzig. Leipzig may be occupying the first position together with Bayern Munich, but it doesn’t mean they can get to win all match easily or defeat any team that comes their way now. I have big hopes on Dortmund even as their performance has not been that impressive, I fell they’ll do well soon enough and take their rightful place in the league title race. This will be a tough match for both teams and I think the worst Dortmund will be coming for in this match is a draw only.

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 28, 2024, 11:34:50 AM

In fact, Bayern is crushing the outsiders in the Champions League in exactly the same way, it’s just that Barcelona is now stronger than Bayern.
If we look at the losing streak and the teams' desire to break it, then in my opinion the game between Dortmund and Leipzig is worth paying attention to. Leipzig is level with Bayern in first place and is an obvious favorite (so the odds for Dortmund to win will be significant), will this really be a third defeat in a row for Dortmund? I don't believe it.

We have other elite clubs that are not pulling the strings here, they're relenting and having poor results in the UEFA Champions League. Barcelona are in top prime, everyone noticed this because they're beating every oppositions that comes their paths. They smashed Bayern Munich and Real Madrid on a row and you think Hansi Flick is here to play? He wouldn't jeopardize his chances and he ensure he utilized them very well with every possible odds. Barcelona are ranked first on the domestic La Liga table and also heading somewhere in the UEFA Champions League.

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Bayern Munich did not score easy goals against Bochum; everyone believed Bayern Munich destroyed Bochum in this game because of how Barcelona shamed them in the Champions League; we expected Bayern Munich to win the game, but not by so many goals; Bochum did not score a single goal against Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich's defense appears to be good in this game, perhaps because Bochum is a weak team and this is a Bundesliga game, which cannot be compared to the Champions League. On the other hand, Kim Min-jae, who made numerous mistakes in the Champions League, prevented Bayern Munich from conceding a goal against Bochum, and they won the match with a clean sheet.

Kompany's strategies seem to be more effective in the Bundesliga, but in the Champions League, they were unable to compete against opponents from other leagues. In my opinion, we shouldn't be expecting much from Kompany on his Champions League debut since they also failed to beat Aston Villa, at least, they may have a chance to win the Bundesliga, but I doubt they will proceed to the next round in the Champions League with the new format.

Bayern beat Bochum as expected, it would be strange if they lost a point with such an opponent. And the fact that Bayern lost to Barcelona, so their game with Real showed that Barcelona is probably in such a form now that it is ready to beat anyone...

In the Bundesliga, Bayern will try to maintain the lead, I think that they have everything they need for this, Leipzig is still quite close, but I have repeatedly said that this team is very unstable and this can all end as soon as they have another slump. Bayer seems to be unable to defend their title, losing points in the Bundesliga has become a constant phenomenon for them. Maybe I'm wrong about Leipzig, but I think that they will not hold out long with Bayern.

Bochum is not a good team but they were not strong enough to make problems for Bayern Munich and considering the past result from these two teams, I think anyone could predict to see Bochum losing the game to Bayern Munich.
But this won't change the fact about Bayern Munich and I still think Bayern Munich couldn't have a good enough performance because they lost the more important game they had against Barcelona in the Champions League matches while they had much better palyers and that's why I think beating a team like Bochum won't change anything for Bayern Munich.

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Quote from: Lafu on October 28, 2024, 01:31:06 PM

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With the current form RB Leipzig is on this season, I don’t think they will drop points to Dortmund because they really needed any point now to keep their title aim alive, they might be the Leverkusen of this season by given Bayern Munich top competition.

Statistically, Leipzig should win the match because of their previous matches against Dortmund, they won their last three matches against Dortmund, and they are in good form compare to Dortmund this season, therefore, I think Dortmund will not be able to win them this time because despite their winning record against them in their last three games, Leipzig is in a better form than Dortmund.

Even Leipzig has a very nice and good form i guess you cant say that Leipzig will be for sure win the next match against Dortmund.
Dortmund is in this game playing at home and this is always a good advantage for Dortmund.
On top of that there will be for sure a reaction from Dortmund from the last games they played.
I think that Dortmund will win there game against Leipzig the coming weekend.

The performance of Leipzig's players has been very good since the beginning of this season. Won 6 out of 8 matches. Bayern Munich and Leipzig are now level on points. Both managed to score 20 points from 8 matches. Leipzig's defense in particular is very strong. Leipzig conceded only 3 goals in 8 matches.

Dortmund is one of the most renowned teams in the Bundesliga. But this team is not in good form this season. The Dortmund team is now in seventh place in the points table. Dortmund have won only 4 out of 8 matches. Even though Leipzig vs Dortmund match is Dortmund's home match, I consider Leipzig team as favorite. Dortmund probably won't be able to break Leipzig's strong defense.

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Quote from: hahay on October 28, 2024, 12:13:07 PM

For the next match Dortmund will play at home but unfortunately, the opponent that Dortmund must face is Leipzig who in fact is still in a very good trend with the same points as Bayern Munich. If Dortmund fails to get points in the next match, then it seems that Dortmund will be overtaken by the teams below them, because their points gap is also quite close.

This will still be a difficult match for Dortmund because after all, with a slightly dimmed mentality and spirit, of course this is a problem that is quite difficult for Nuri Sahin in developing their attack scheme, but usually when facing a comparable or bigger club Dortmund is sometimes always motivated to provide good things on the field. They can always do anything and even score with quick counter-attacks but it should be noted that their concentration is easy to break so there must be some more consideration for Dortmund when they play in week 9 because they still have to get points in this match.

Before that, Dortmund must be able to rotate players when facing Wolfsburg in the second round of the DFB although sometimes this competition is not too concerned about big clubs but of course defeat will make it more difficult for them so as much as possible they must get a victory in this match.

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Quote from: Hyphen(-) on October 28, 2024, 12:23:53 PM

With the current form RB Leipzig is on this season, I don’t think they will drop points to Dortmund because they really needed any point now to keep their title aim alive, they might be the Leverkusen of this season by given Bayern Munich top competition.

Statistically, Leipzig should win the match because of their previous matches against Dortmund, they won their last three matches against Dortmund, and they are in good form compare to Dortmund this season, therefore, I think Dortmund will not be able to win them this time because despite their winning record against them in their last three games, Leipzig is in a better form than Dortmund.

Even Leipzig has a very nice and good form i guess you cant say that Leipzig will be for sure win the next match against Dortmund.
Dortmund is in this game playing at home and this is always a good advantage for Dortmund.
On top of that there will be for sure a reaction from Dortmund from the last games they played.
I think that Dortmund will win there game against Leipzig the coming weekend.

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Quote from: hahay on October 28, 2024, 12:13:07 PM

For the next match Dortmund will play at home but unfortunately, the opponent that Dortmund must face is Leipzig who in fact is still in a very good trend with the same points as Bayern Munich. If Dortmund fails to get points in the next match, then it seems that Dortmund will be overtaken by the teams below them, because their points gap is also quite close.

I personally am not sure Dortmund will be able to beat Leipzig later, because based on their head to head results, at least Leipzig has managed to beat Dortmund several times. Moreover, at this moment Leipzig is still a tight competitor to Bayern Munich at the top of the standings, so of course Leipzig will do their best to keep getting points even though they are playing away against Dortmund in the next Bundesliga match.

With the current form RB Leipzig is on this season, I don’t think they will drop points to Dortmund because they really needed any point now to keep their title aim alive, they might be the Leverkusen of this season by given Bayern Munich top competition.

Statistically, Leipzig should win the match because of their previous matches against Dortmund, they won their last three matches against Dortmund, and they are in good form compare to Dortmund this season, therefore, I think Dortmund will not be able to win them this time because despite their winning record against them in their last three games, Leipzig is in a better form than Dortmund.

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For the next match Dortmund will play at home but unfortunately, the opponent that Dortmund must face is Leipzig who in fact is still in a very good trend with the same points as Bayern Munich. If Dortmund fails to get points in the next match, then it seems that Dortmund will be overtaken by the teams below them, because their points gap is also quite close.

I personally am not sure Dortmund will be able to beat Leipzig later, because based on their head to head results, at least Leipzig has managed to beat Dortmund several times. Moreover, at this moment Leipzig is still a tight competitor to Bayern Munich at the top of the standings, so of course Leipzig will do their best to keep getting points even though they are playing away against Dortmund in the next Bundesliga match.

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 28, 2024, 11:34:50 AM

In fact, Bayern is crushing the outsiders in the Champions League in exactly the same way, it’s just that Barcelona is now stronger than Bayern.
If we look at the losing streak and the teams' desire to break it, then in my opinion the game between Dortmund and Leipzig is worth paying attention to. Leipzig is level with Bayern in first place and is an obvious favorite (so the odds for Dortmund to win will be significant), will this really be a third defeat in a row for Dortmund? I don't believe it.

But its undeniable that Bayern's Champions League journey this season hasn't been as smooth as they could have made it out to be, which has led to a situation where criticism and even the fans are out of control.

Since the 2018-2019 season when the Champions League is still in group mode instead of league Bayern have never once lost in the group phase and for this season in the league phase they have to lose even 2 times out of 3 matches played which of course this gives a serious situation should even though they are still possible to be one of the clubs that can qualify even using the play off route but still this is a decline that occurs for them.

Bayern have always been known as a superior club for the Champions League group stage but when this league phase runs they seem to be struggling to make some breakthroughs because this phase is not the same as before which makes it difficult for them to adapt.

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Quote from: reagansimms on October 28, 2024, 10:53:19 AM

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Bayern's management is not concerned with the European Champions League at the moment, they are concerned with winning the Bundesliga because everyone knows that the European Champions League has many complexities, see that there are many great teams that have not won the European Champions League for a long time but are winning the local league. If the Bayern coach was doing well in the European Champions League but was doing poorly in the Bundesliga, he would be fired immediately. and the Bayern coach knows this well.

It is very realistic that they are more focused on the Bundesliga than the Champions League, especially since the reasons you mentioned make perfect sense. Currently they are trying to get back to their best form after failing to win any titles last season, the Bundesliga being the most likely trophy to win because the level of competition is lighter than the Champions League. Defeats to Aston Villa and Barcelona have cast doubt on their ability to compete with other teams, while in the Bundesliga they are still too strong for other teams, especially Leverkusen, who are considered as one of their toughest competitors, who have not been able to perform consistently this season.

Last season Bayern Munich managed to reach the Champions League semifinals, regardless of the priority scale, it seems that the management will still demand Kompany with the same standard this season. In terms of finance, the Champions League offers a much greater income than the Bundesliga, meaning Kompany is required to balance his team performance in the two main competitions. For two consecutive defeats to Aston Villa and Barcelona, I think it is natural for fans to criticize him, it is an inseparable part of every journey. The Bundesliga trophy this season seems easier to win back, because Leverkusen as the defending champion has experienced a decline in performance. Dortmund seems unable to do much to put pressure, therefore Kompany task in the Bundesliga looks easier than we previously thought.

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Quote from: Barikui1 on October 28, 2024, 12:21:46 AM

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At least now they are back at the top of the Bundesliga standings, unbeaten, and can maintain it until the end of the season, that would be much better.

Yea yea yea, this is truly the mark of a top quality team, with this kind of performance, I believe that the midweek match against Barcelona which they lost was just one of those bad days at the office and it's a good thing that they doesn't let it to affect them that much which to me, is truly one of the mark of a champion.

Yes, and it must be like that, they are a top club so they must always be professional in any condition, no matter how embarrassed and heavy the previous match result is, it should not haunt or interfere with their performance in the upcoming match. The fighting spirit must continue to burn so that it can always be optimal in the future.

Quote from: Slow death on October 28, 2024, 05:01:49 AM

Kane is now on top. But I must congratulate Omar Marmoush. He is helping Eintracht Frankfurt a lot.

Yes, and the competition as the top scorer between the two is indeed very tight, plus with assists and contributions. After matchday 8, here is the provisional list.

Source: Bundesliga top scorers after MD8

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Quote from: Weawant on October 27, 2024, 05:39:46 PM

Why do I feel like Bayern Munich unleashed the frustration they got off loosing to Barcelona on bochum in this game they played earlier. We knew Bayern was going to win but I don't think we expected it in this manner and I must command it was not just a good game and victory for Bayern but it was an entertaining game aswell which I see gave Bayern a recovery feel, I think with this I can say for sure, komopanys strategy fits in the bundesliga mostly, a d not as much with the champions League because the productivity is very different and the results aren't anything close to each other.

In fact, Bayern is crushing the outsiders in the Champions League in exactly the same way, it’s just that Barcelona is now stronger than Bayern.
If we look at the losing streak and the teams' desire to break it, then in my opinion the game between Dortmund and Leipzig is worth paying attention to. Leipzig is level with Bayern in first place and is an obvious favorite (so the odds for Dortmund to win will be significant), will this really be a third defeat in a row for Dortmund? I don't believe it.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on October 28, 2024, 10:22:23 AM

Omar Marmoush definitely looks like the next big sale Frankfurt will have, when a player scores this many goals, every team starts looking at a player very differently. Bundesliga is the third or fourth biggest league in the world, so being top scorer of such a high level league is definitely not a bad achievement, it's a big task and he is going great so far.

Being tied with Kane shows how valuable he is, Kane was bought for like 120 million or something. I am not saying Omar worths 120 as well, obviously not, that is not decided based on just player talent, it depends on where you are getting a player from and when you buy a player from Tottenham vs when you buy a player from Frankfurt changes the price as well. I believe Omar still worths 50+ million easily though, definitely looks like he is a great player and ending up with something much better if they keep this up and he could definitely be at a much greater club in a season or two as well.

Scored 9 goals and 4 assists in 8 matches; that’s the record of Omar Marmoush who may really prove himself to be one of the most interesting players in the Bundesliga at the moment. This performance surely catches the eye of many big clubs because such a significant contribution in such little time is not something easy to achieve in a league with tight competition, and that is exactly what the Bundesliga is about.

He's a young player from Egypt who is beginning to make a big impact in the top leagues of Europe; Marmoush clearly has the potential for a large transfer value. When a player can impact immediately, that raises the interest of many clubs, particularly when quality players in the attacking position are in high demand in many European leagues, then the price has the potential to skyrocket. It will not reach the kind of figure that Harry Kane commands, but steady performances could see it push towards 50 million euros, or even more than that. Quite likely

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on October 28, 2024, 05:11:07 AM

Bayern beat Bochum as expected, it would be strange if they lost a point with such an opponent. And the fact that Bayern lost to Barcelona, so their game with Real showed that Barcelona is probably in such a form now that it is ready to beat anyone...

In the Bundesliga, Bayern will try to maintain the lead, I think that they have everything they need for this, Leipzig is still quite close, but I have repeatedly said that this team is very unstable and this can all end as soon as they have another slump. Bayer seems to be unable to defend their title, losing points in the Bundesliga has become a constant phenomenon for them. Maybe I'm wrong about Leipzig, but I think that they will not hold out long with Bayern.

While it is expected for Bayern to beat Bochum, that one was a particularly easy game and doesn't really help with anything for them. The real trouble comes when they face some good teams and we have seen multiple times bad results from them.

Not only they lost to Villa, but they also got destroyed by Barcelona as well, and in Bundesliga they got a tie against Leverkusen which wasn't really seen as an issue and I believe it's alright to get a draw against the latest champions, but they also got one against Frankfurt as well. So, when you think of these 4 games, they are looking like at risk to me.

Obviously they had some amazing games too, like against Zagreb they scored 9 goals, amazing score for sure, or 6 goals against Kiel, or 5 goals each to Bochum and Werder, these are all great games and made them look like they are playing amazingly. So the question has to be asked, which one are they?

When they play great, they win with ease against weaker teams, and when they lose, they lost very badly. I think this is going to eb an issue for them. At Bundesliga, majority of the teams are worse than them so they could win the league, but at UCL they might end up very badly without a doubt.

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Quote from: Slow death on October 28, 2024, 05:01:49 AM

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Bayern's management is not concerned with the European Champions League at the moment, they are concerned with winning the Bundesliga because everyone knows that the European Champions League has many complexities, see that there are many great teams that have not won the European Champions League for a long time but are winning the local league. If the Bayern coach was doing well in the European Champions League but was doing poorly in the Bundesliga, he would be fired immediately. and the Bayern coach knows this well.

It is very realistic that they are more focused on the Bundesliga than the Champions League, especially since the reasons you mentioned make perfect sense. Currently they are trying to get back to their best form after failing to win any titles last season, the Bundesliga being the most likely trophy to win because the level of competition is lighter than the Champions League. Defeats to Aston Villa and Barcelona have cast doubt on their ability to compete with other teams, while in the Bundesliga they are still too strong for other teams, especially Leverkusen, who are considered as one of their toughest competitors, who have not been able to perform consistently this season.

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Quote from: X-ray on October 28, 2024, 08:45:24 AM

Bayern's result against Barcelona was not really affecting their performance. They bounced back nicely against Bochum and dominated the game, winning 5-0. Although It was only Bochum, but it shows their mentality is intact after a loss to Barcelona. But their Bundesliga result isn't a measure of their UCL performance.

And yeah, three points are that they're looking to rebuild their mentality. But they have to improve in order to compete with strong teams in the UCL.

Bochum is not a worthy opponent for Bayern Munich so a 5-0 win is a natural thing to happen because Bonchum does not have the quality to face Bayern Munich. For the Bundesliga, Bayern Munich's ability to dominate is still quite big and it might be difficult for other teams to match. The three points boosted Bayern Munich's morale after suffering a painful defeat to Barcelona and that should be Kompany's priority in making evaluations.

Leipzig are expected to be strong challengers for Bayern Munich this season and they are also on the same points now. If Leipzig are consistent then Kompany's job will not be easy for the title race and maybe he needs to put in more effort so that Bayern Munich do not fail like last season.

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Omar Marmoush definitely looks like the next big sale Frankfurt will have, when a player scores this many goals, every team starts looking at a player very differently. Bundesliga is the third or fourth biggest league in the world, so being top scorer of such a high level league is definitely not a bad achievement, it's a big task and he is going great so far.

Being tied with Kane shows how valuable he is, Kane was bought for like 120 million or something. I am not saying Omar worths 120 as well, obviously not, that is not decided based on just player talent, it depends on where you are getting a player from and when you buy a player from Tottenham vs when you buy a player from Frankfurt changes the price as well. I believe Omar still worths 50+ million easily though, definitely looks like he is a great player and ending up with something much better if they keep this up and he could definitely be at a much greater club in a season or two as well.

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In today's Germany League Heidenheim vs Hoffenheim match between the two teams, neither team could score a goal for which the match was a draw. The players of both teams tried hard to win their team by scoring in this match. Goalkeepers of both teams failed to score Had a very good performance for which the match was a draw. Heidenheim team could have won the match if they had performed well in this match. Heidenheim team is a much stronger team than Hoffenheim team.

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Quote from: xzone on October 28, 2024, 06:32:37 AM

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Why do I feel like Bayern Munich unleashed the frustration they got off loosing to Barcelona on bochum in this game they played earlier. We knew Bayern was going to win but I don't think we expected it in this manner and I must command it was not just a good game and victory for Bayern but it was an entertaining game aswell which I see gave Bayern a recovery feel, I think with this I can say for sure, komopanys strategy fits in the bundesliga mostly, a d not as much with the champions League because the productivity is very different and the results aren't anything close to each other.

I think the first thing Bayern should do is forget the Barcelona match. It was a bad match, they played well below their own performance and suffered a worse defeat than they have seen in a long time. But this match is over, they are not a bad team and they are still the best in the league. They manage to score a lot of goals and win 3 points in league matches, that's what's important. They showed how good they are in this regard in their last match

Bayern's result against Barcelona was not really affecting their performance. They bounced back nicely against Bochum and dominated the game, winning 5-0. Although It was only Bochum, but it shows their mentality is intact after a loss to Barcelona. But their Bundesliga result isn't a measure of their UCL performance.

And yeah, three points are that they're looking to rebuild their mentality. But they have to improve in order to compete with strong teams in the UCL.

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