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Quote from: Slow death on January 16, 2025, 01:36:20 PM

In my opinion, Dortmund are not very weak, the problem is that the other teams that were weak last season are strong this season and that is causing Dortmund to not be in the top 4, about the last game in which Dortmund lost, I think that in the last games Dortmund have had problems in defense, but they also have a good attack, so in my opinion this is not a big problem, the coach can correct what is wrong in defense.

Other teams are getting stronger, but Dortmund is getting left behind, that's the problem Dortmund is experiencing.
A few seasons ago Dortmund would always be a competitor to Munich for the Bundesliga trophy. But now they are far from the expectation for that. If they were in 5th or 6th position in the standings, maybe we could still say that the team is not weak. But Dortmund is currently in 10th position in the standings. Dortmund has a lot to deal with.

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on January 16, 2025, 05:29:27 AM

Dortmund should be in shame for allowing such defeat from a very weak club. I think Dortmund has lost their quality and we fail to see that. I hope they don't continue this way if not it might find themselves at the bottom of the table.

I hope something is done fast to improve the team's performance so that they can start winning their matches, otherwise, we might see them on a long losing streak.

If it was a narrow win it would have pardoned but losing a match to a bottomed table team who as at their 16th match had only 8 points makes this so pathetic. I think Dortmund needs to review everything about their training and match again. I mean such a loss if ignored might become a norm for them till the end of season.

I doubt if anyone expected this defeat. What majority expected to be the worst outcome of this match was a draw but it turned out to be a nightmare for Dortmund who will have to sit back and reorganize their game plan as well as their training and all.

Borussia Dortmund must make a big evaluation, because they can't continue like this, they have to rise quickly. In terms of the composition of the players they have, they actually still have good names in it, but it seems like the players are not in a situation that can show their best game. Maybe this is because the form of strategy that cannot be implemented properly, I don't blame the coach or the players, this is their shared responsibility. Be it the coach, players or even management must be able to evaluate the decisions they make.

In my opinion, Dortmund are not very weak, the problem is that the other teams that were weak last season are strong this season and that is causing Dortmund to not be in the top 4, about the last game in which Dortmund lost, I think that in the last games Dortmund have had problems in defense, but they also have a good attack, so in my opinion this is not a big problem, the coach can correct what is wrong in defense.

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Quote from: junder on January 15, 2025, 04:24:04 PM

Bayern Munich, goal party. Shocked

I thought after leading 3-0 in the first half they were satisfied enough but it turned out I was wrong, just entering the second half Lerone Sane immediately scored another goal followed by Gnabry in the 66th minute. This is an easy match for them because Hoffenheim can't do anything at all, both their defense and attack are very bad.
Week 17 which went well for the title contenders because both Leverkusen and Bayern Munich won their respective matches.

Bayern really capitalized on the fact that they were more superior to Hoffenheim, pouring in goals after goals after goals to demoralize their opponent and killing off any hopes of comeback from them. They seem to be more serious this this season than last season.

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Quote from: SUPERSAIAN on January 14, 2025, 05:43:19 PM

Dortmund lost, they scored four goals to a team worse than them. Nuri Şahin's place in the team doesn't look very good, I don't know what will happen after this match. The host team Holstein Kiel played very well, they came in such a way that the Dortmund defense was very helpless.

Think about it, Holstein Kiel conceded three goals in the first half without conceding a single goal. Dortmund tried to come back in the second half, but there was too much

Very poor run for Dortmund this season and it is looks worse seeing then sit at 10th position in the league table which is unacceptable for a club of their caliber, something needs to be done quickly. They need reinforcements, bringing im fresh legs should bring a boost to the team’s performance I mean players that can make quick impact as they come in and if the manager is not good enough it is only smart to do away with him. This is a big club and there should be standards on how the should play and perform every season.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on January 16, 2025, 03:56:10 AM

Insane performance from Bayern Munich in first half of this season 53 goals conceded 13 amazing stats difference of goals 40 no team near them for challenging them look like Vincent Kompany is going to enjoy his first title as coach of this giant German club which could be huge breakthrough for his coaching career.

Frankfurt came from behind to clinch all three points from RB Leipzig this was really tense game while at the end Leipzig ended with 9 players on field their chances for top four looking not good as they are having few toughest opponents for this spot with Frankfurt, Stuttgart and Mainz all keeping their performance on good level for having their own chances for this spot. Werder Bremen conceded 95th minute goal from Heidenheim which bring them out of relegation zone next game against St. Pauli can give them good chance of coming out of danger zone.

Kane has indeed become a reliable goal machine. He is increasingly appearing crazy with Bayern Munich. And in my opinion Bayern Munich never lacks goal machines, they always have reliable goal scorers every season. And if Bayern Munich is able to finish in first place for this season, then this is not only the first trophy for Vincent Kompany, but also for Harry Kane.

As for regarding, the Leipzig match ended in defeat and also ended with 9 players, not Frankfurt who was their opponent, but VfB. This match was indeed quite fierce, especially in that match Leipzig was able to take an early lead over VfB.

As for Frankfurt, they managed to return to winning ways, and the next opponent they will face is Borussia Dornund. and of course this is not an easy match, because even though Dornund has been performing badly lately, they will continue to try to get back to winning ways.

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Quote from: knowngunman on January 16, 2025, 04:01:59 AM

It was a brilliant performance and great three points with additional five more goals for Bayern Munich to increase their gap between them and Bayern Leverkusen on the table. However, we must realise that Bayern played against Hoffenheim that's presently fighting relegation and winning against them was highly expected. In as much as it add value and different, it's not some sort of accomplishment. It would be worthy of celebration if this result is against a competent team. Isn't it insane to win massively against a team no one has heard of and lose or draw to decent teams? Bayern Munich is halfway through the championship but the road is still long and Leverkusen is not giving up too. They need to be more serious than ever.

A win is a win regardless of who they play against and won the match. If this match was played against another small team and they lost the match, we would have blamed them to not have lost against them, I see them all as equal as far as the competition is concerned and accolades to be given to the team that most deserves it after their wonderful performance to get a win. I am not totally against them for playing and celebrating after winning a small team, Hoffenheim are very much in the Bundesliga and they will be given their three points and praised if they’d won Bayern Munich too. The consistency of Bayern Munich needs to be preserved if they want to continue to be at the top of the Bundesliga standings and not lose to mediocre teams. Bayern Leverkusen are very much behind them looking for ways to get themselves to the top of the table regardless of the point and goal difference between them and Bayern Munich. The league is only getting more interesting and competitive.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on January 16, 2025, 11:35:14 AM

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on January 16, 2025, 05:29:27 AM

Dortmund should be in shame for allowing such defeat from a very weak club. I think Dortmund has lost their quality and we fail to see that. I hope they don't continue this way if not it might find themselves at the bottom of the table.

I hope something is done fast to improve the team's performance so that they can start winning their matches, otherwise, we might see them on a long losing streak.

If it was a narrow win it would have pardoned but losing a match to a bottomed table team who as at their 16th match had only 8 points makes this so pathetic. I think Dortmund needs to review everything about their training and match again. I mean such a loss if ignored might become a norm for them till the end of season.

I doubt if anyone expected this defeat. What majority expected to be the worst outcome of this match was a draw but it turned out to be a nightmare for Dortmund who will have to sit back and reorganize their game plan as well as their training and all.

Borussia Dortmund must make a big evaluation, because they can't continue like this, they have to rise quickly. In terms of the composition of the players they have, they actually still have good names in it, but it seems like the players are not in a situation that can show their best game. Maybe this is because the form of strategy that cannot be implemented properly, I don't blame the coach or the players, this is their shared responsibility. Be it the coach, players or even management must be able to evaluate the decisions they make.

I think this team needs coordination and guidance in all areas to achieve cohesion. I agree with your opinion about the lack of coordination between the players and Shahin.
anyway, this issue should be addressed and managed by the club's managers and even if it were necessary, they would have to surgically change the overall structure of the club.
Whatever it is, even if someone is not a Dortmund fan, they will miss that strong team and its beautiful games.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on January 16, 2025, 03:56:10 AM

Insane performance from Bayern Munich in first half of this season 53 goals conceded 13 amazing stats difference of goals 40 no team near them for challenging them look like Vincent Kompany is going to enjoy his first title as coach of this giant German club which could be huge breakthrough for his coaching career.

Frankfurt came from behind to clinch all three points from RB Leipzig this was really tense game while at the end Leipzig ended with 9 players on field their chances for top four looking not good as they are having few toughest opponents for this spot with Frankfurt, Stuttgart and Mainz all keeping their performance on good level for having their own chances for this spot. Werder Bremen conceded 95th minute goal from Heidenheim which bring them out of relegation zone next game against St. Pauli can give them good chance of coming out of danger zone.

Yes, basically this match made Bayern Munich look confident because they scored quite a lot of goals against Hoffenheim, the score of 5-0 is not a small goal and what's worse is that Hoffenheim was powerless to reply to a goal even once against Bayern Munich, but if we talk about the competition for the winner of the cup this season in the Bundesliga I think the strongest challenger is Xabi Alonso's troops because they managed to bounce back from their slump in several early matches of the season, now they have re-established themselves to be able to compete with Bayern Munich and their pin in the standings is also not that far so it is very possible to be able to catch up with Vincent Kompany.

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Quote from: knowngunman on January 16, 2025, 04:01:59 AM

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Bayern Munich's great victory They were able to achieve a 5-0 victory over Hoffenheim. Bayern Munich fought with excitement in this match, currently Bayern Munich's performance has improved a lot and they will play responsibly at the moment. Because they have to be champions this season, and since Leverkusen is currently trying hard to compete with Bayern Munich. In that case, Bayern Munich will definitely try to improve their game at the moment so that no one can take their position, the most likely competition is between Bayern Munich and Leverkusen.

It was a brilliant performance and great three points with additional five more goals for Bayern Munich to increase their gap between them and Bayern Leverkusen on the table. However, we must realise that Bayern played against Hoffenheim that's presently fighting relegation and winning against them was highly expected. In as much as it add value and different, it's not some sort of accomplishment. It would be worthy of celebration if this result is against a competent team. Isn't it insane to win massively against a team no one has heard of and lose or draw to decent teams? Bayern Munich is halfway through the championship but the road is still long and Leverkusen is not giving up too. They need to be more serious than ever.

Before going into their 17th match, Bayern Munich's points were 39, on the other hand, after finishing the 17th match, Leverkusen's points were 38, that is, there was only 1 point difference between Bayan Munich and Leverkusen. However, Bayern Munich took the field in the 17th match to earn a full point, which is why they are currently 4 points clear of Leverkusen. If somehow Bayern Munich had drawn or lost their 17th match they could have dropped to the bottom of the points table at any time but they are still in a good position with full points. Leverkusen didn't perform well at the beginning of the season but they are doing well now and this team's performance does not bode well for Bayern Munich. So Bayern Munich should plan better so that they can get full points in all the upcoming matches.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on January 16, 2025, 08:19:33 AM

Quote from: Ruttoshi on January 16, 2025, 05:29:27 AM

Dortmund should be in shame for allowing such defeat from a very weak club. I think Dortmund has lost their quality and we fail to see that. I hope they don't continue this way if not it might find themselves at the bottom of the table.

I hope something is done fast to improve the team's performance so that they can start winning their matches, otherwise, we might see them on a long losing streak.

If it was a narrow win it would have pardoned but losing a match to a bottomed table team who as at their 16th match had only 8 points makes this so pathetic. I think Dortmund needs to review everything about their training and match again. I mean such a loss if ignored might become a norm for them till the end of season.

I doubt if anyone expected this defeat. What majority expected to be the worst outcome of this match was a draw but it turned out to be a nightmare for Dortmund who will have to sit back and reorganize their game plan as well as their training and all.

Borussia Dortmund must make a big evaluation, because they can't continue like this, they have to rise quickly. In terms of the composition of the players they have, they actually still have good names in it, but it seems like the players are not in a situation that can show their best game. Maybe this is because the form of strategy that cannot be implemented properly, I don't blame the coach or the players, this is their shared responsibility. Be it the coach, players or even management must be able to evaluate the decisions they make.

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on January 16, 2025, 05:29:27 AM

Dortmund should be in shame for allowing such defeat from a very weak club. I think Dortmund has lost their quality and we fail to see that. I hope they don't continue this way if not it might find themselves at the bottom of the table.

I hope something is done fast to improve the team's performance so that they can start winning their matches, otherwise, we might see them on a long losing streak.

Last season dortmund showed a very good performance in the UCL, but in the bundesliga they also experienced a slump, as well as what happened this season where they also looked worse in terms of performance and consistency, the defeat from relegation team and also with a landslide score, should make the current dortmund management start looking for more concrete solutions such as maybe changing the coach, because I see nuri sahin doesn't have the ability to handle the pressure that exists including when facing crucial matches in the league, their current position in the league is very bad and to end the season in the UCL zone also seems to be very difficult for them, so like you said, off course performance and consistency they must improve at this time and hopefully it's not too late for them.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on January 16, 2025, 08:19:33 AM

Quote from: Ruttoshi on January 16, 2025, 05:29:27 AM

Dortmund should be in shame for allowing such defeat from a very weak club. I think Dortmund has lost their quality and we fail to see that. I hope they don't continue this way if not it might find themselves at the bottom of the table.

I hope something is done fast to improve the team's performance so that they can start winning their matches, otherwise, we might see them on a long losing streak.

If it was a narrow win it would have pardoned but losing a match to a bottomed table team who as at their 16th match had only 8 points makes this so pathetic. I think Dortmund needs to review everything about their training and match again. I mean such a loss if ignored might become a norm for them till the end of season.

I doubt if anyone expected this defeat. What majority expected to be the worst outcome of this match was a draw but it turned out to be a nightmare for Dortmund who will have to sit back and reorganize their game plan as well as their training and all.

Dortmund are having a tough time from their previous 5 matches they only won one match the rest drew, lost and now they are humiliated by the bottom team of the standings with a score of 4-2. It's really sad to see Dortmund in the current season, I wonder what's wrong with them right now, is it because Nuri Sahin is not suitable to be a head coach or the management often sells their best players so that when many bundesliga teams experience development Dortmund can't handle it.?
What is clear this season they will have difficulty competing in the top 4 area, maybe if things don't change for the better in the future we won't see them on the UCL stage next season.

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on January 16, 2025, 05:29:27 AM

Dortmund should be in shame for allowing such defeat from a very weak club. I think Dortmund has lost their quality and we fail to see that. I hope they don't continue this way if not it might find themselves at the bottom of the table.

I hope something is done fast to improve the team's performance so that they can start winning their matches, otherwise, we might see them on a long losing streak.

If it was a narrow win it would have pardoned but losing a match to a bottomed table team who as at their 16th match had only 8 points makes this so pathetic. I think Dortmund needs to review everything about their training and match again. I mean such a loss if ignored might become a norm for them till the end of season.

I doubt if anyone expected this defeat. What majority expected to be the worst outcome of this match was a draw but it turned out to be a nightmare for Dortmund who will have to sit back and reorganize their game plan as well as their training and all.

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on January 16, 2025, 05:29:27 AM

Dortmund should be in shame for allowing such defeat from a very weak club. I think Dortmund has lost their quality and we fail to see that. I hope they don't continue this way if not it might find themselves at the bottom of the table.

I hope something is done fast to improve the team's performance so that they can start winning their matches, otherwise, we might see them on a long losing streak.

I wish for them to continue this way because I saw them as one of the teams to always make the league difficult for Bayern Munich but they couldn't act like a big club in the Bundesliga, no season you won't see them lose the chance of becoming a champion and day before yesterday they lose to a lower side that are planning on leaving the Bundesliga by the end of the season, is too shameful. Very soon better players would be leaving the team and I wonder who'll bring them to their best as a coach.

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Before the match started, Dortmund were the favourites to win the match but Kiel was outstanding even when they played with 10 players, their could still add to lead in the lasts minutes, with the point of being lose as it is now of course the hope of at least ending the season in the Champions League zone seems to be very difficult for dortmund.

Dortmund's defeat this time is really embarrassing how can they as a top club be defeated by a club that can be said to be a weak club this season even though Holstein Kiel is in the relegation zone and has only won 2 times so far and 3 when beating Dortmund, the defeat when playing against Leverkusen I can understand but losing against a promoted club is unacceptable I also began to doubt Dortmund's performance this season it is possible that Dortmund will not be able to finish in the UCL zone because it has experienced a fairly sharp decline.

Dortmund should be in shame for allowing such defeat from a very weak club. I think Dortmund has lost their quality and we fail to see that. I hope they don't continue this way if not it might find themselves at the bottom of the table.

I hope something is done fast to improve the team's performance so that they can start winning their matches, otherwise, we might see them on a long losing streak.

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Quote from: mammusu on January 15, 2025, 04:04:39 AM

Before the match started, Dortmund were the favourites to win the match but Kiel was outstanding even when they played with 10 players, their could still add to lead in the lasts minutes, with the point of being lose as it is now of course the hope of at least ending the season in the Champions League zone seems to be very difficult for dortmund.

Dortmund's defeat this time is really embarrassing how can they as a top club be defeated by a club that can be said to be a weak club this season even though Holstein Kiel is in the relegation zone and has only won 2 times so far and 3 when beating Dortmund, the defeat when playing against Leverkusen I can understand but losing against a promoted club is unacceptable I also began to doubt Dortmund's performance this season it is possible that Dortmund will not be able to finish in the UCL zone because it has experienced a fairly sharp decline.

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Quote from: ajanwalker on January 15, 2025, 05:31:44 AM

Dortmund is mentally tired and I don't think there is a problem between the players and Nuri Şahin, but it seems to me that there is a problem between the players and Nuri Şahin.
In the Leverkusen match, Malen and Sabitzer entered the game quite late. This is a remarkable situation and these players who entered the game later did nothing.
Malen was not in the squad yesterday.
If he is not injured, then there is something else.
It is also bad that Adeyemi and Süle have not been in the team for a long time.
If they lose points in one or two more matches, they will part ways with Nuri Şahin. The end of the year is certain, but this separation could happen even earlier.

Malen has just been signed by Aston Villa. It happened after the Leverkusen game and they signed him for 25 million euros. He wasn't having enough playing time at Dortmund so I think he made the right choice for himself by leaving.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/donyell-malen/transfers/spieler/326029

At Aston Villa there was only Bailey on the right wing. He can play as LW too as there is only Jacob Ramsey there as well. Malen won't find himself a big competition there in short as there are not many players performing in his positions. Adeyemi suffered an injury and now he is ill. His absence is a big loss for Dortmund in the attacking line. Sad

Süle has had serious injury problems recently. He gained a lot of weight in the past too but I don't know what his condition is now. Anyways, Nuri Şahin had better improve the defense or he would get sacked.

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Quote from: len01 on January 16, 2025, 03:28:16 AM

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Lost from Holstein Kiel is really unacceptable for Dortmund fans especially Dortmund have conceded 4 goals in that match i think this is poor record considering Holstein Kiel only play with 10 players at that time and total Dortmund only get 1 win from 7 latest matches and this weekend Dortmund will play at Frankfurt home ground i think this is the last chance for Nuri Sahin because if Dortmund lost again then potentially he would be sack

Dortmund defeat against a weak team is indeed very unreasonable and the fans must be very disappointed. But such a defeat is not a shameful result because even top teams have experienced the same thing, losing against a weaker team.
So yesterday's defeat was not a big mistake that should have fired the coach. It's just that Nuri Şahin must realize where the weaknesses of the Dortmund squad lie.
If the coach knows the weaknesses currently experienced, Dortmund actually has shortcomings in the defense line and that is why Nuri Şahin must immediately fix these weaknesses. Compared to having to swallow negative criticism from fans who continue to blame the coach.

the game against eintracht frankfurt will be a relatively difficult game for dortmund.
It is true that Eintracht's current position is shaky, but in general, this team is stronger than dortmund.
dortmund has finished all previous games (regardless of the result) with goal, so maybe we will see goals from this team in this game and at least if they can draw they will reduce some of the psychological pressure on the team members.

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Bayern Munich's great victory They were able to achieve a 5-0 victory over Hoffenheim. Bayern Munich fought with excitement in this match, currently Bayern Munich's performance has improved a lot and they will play responsibly at the moment. Because they have to be champions this season, and since Leverkusen is currently trying hard to compete with Bayern Munich. In that case, Bayern Munich will definitely try to improve their game at the moment so that no one can take their position, the most likely competition is between Bayern Munich and Leverkusen.

Yes, I think the two teams closest to each other for the championship will be Bayern Munich and Leverkusen. We will probably watch the championship half between these two teams until the end of the year. Both teams have a chance to win the championship. The matches they will play against each other will be decisive. If Bayern Munich wins the match against Leverkusen, they will probably become champions. If Leverkusen can beat Bayern Munich, they will continue their claim to the championship. It is going to be a good season. I think this race will continue until the end of the year.

After leverkusen win over mainz 05 and also munich landslide win over hoffenheim again made the two teams currently maintain a difference of 4 points in the standings, with the small distance between the two teams at this time of course the competition in the race for the title this season will be even tighter, because however the two teams so far are required not to lose points if they still want to stay on the championship track, the 0-5 victory not only shows the dominance that munich has at the moment, but it also gives a warning to leverkusen if they are still the favourites to win with the winning mentality.
With both teams only 4 points apart, show if this season the competition in the bundesliga is more competitive, so it seem we are still difficult to say who will win the end of the season later.

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Quote from: Hyphen(-) on January 15, 2025, 11:10:14 AM

Despite any circumstances that might happen in the match, I see no reason why Dortmund will have to lose to Kiel with such goals margins; losing 1-0 or 2-1 will be understandable for a every team because that’s football, but a relegation zone team defeating a big team or a team that’s supposed to a title contender 4-2 is shameful to Dortmund, despite the fact that Keil was one man down at 3-2, I was expecting Dortmund to at least fight for a draw, but they failed and end up conceding one more goal form the weak relegation zone team.

At this moment, I don’t consider Dortmund as a team that will even make top four this season because their inconsistency is alarming and it shows that the team is not stable under Nuri Sahin, and he might get sacked soon because team like Dortmund in the 9th position on the Bundesliga table is not normal.

They were very careless in the game and made a couple of mistakes that was costly and they conceded 3 goals in the first half without no reply. It was a disappointing performance from Dortmund and even if they were the away team they should be able to win Holstein Kiel that have been struggling in previous games.

They did well to comeback but a 3 goal lead is just to much to equalize and by trying to get a goal in the final minute of the game to make it 3-3 after going 3-2 they conceded the last goal as da result of the goalkeeper going for the late minute corner kick.

Kiel sits in the relegation zone and winning the match doesn’t changes anything but Dortmund keeps falling down the table as they currently sit in 10th positions which is very disappointing for them. Making top four will be difficult with this inconsistency and unless they improve their game they will fail to qualify for the champions league next season.

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