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 Vincent Kompany seems to be bringing the magic to the Bundesliga like he did when he was handling Burnley in the championship and it got me wondering why he couldn't replicate the same performance when they got promoted to the premier league. Is it that the Bundesliga is not much difficult than the Premier league or was it that he didn't have good players at his disposal while he was in the EPL? Anyways, a good first start for him and even though it was hard fought, three points is still three points and I'm happy he was able to get that because some teams in other leagues tend to get draws in their opening games in the new season.
 It's the start to the season and the whole thing is getting competitive already; let's see if Vincent Kompany can maintain this excellent start.
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I believe that Bayern Munich will be a disappointment in the Bundesliga this year too. Today, Wolfsburg was ahead 0-1 away. At the beginning of the second half, Wolfsburg made the score 2-1. At minute 65, Kaminski scored his own goal and the score became 2-2.  S.Gnabry scored the winning goal for Bayern in the 82nd minute and Bayern finished the match 2-3.
I think Bayern will lose this league again this year, depending on the football played. Maybe there may even be a change of coach before the 10th week.

Bayern München have won the league 11 times in a row, let the others win some too. Grin After Leverkusen's success last year, all teams are hungry for the title this year. I expect Dortmund to make an attack too.
Wolfsburg didn't take any points from the game even though they were ahead, which is a bit frustrating. But the loss against Bayern is not so important for them in the overall league. They have different target matches. Wolfsburg have no title ambitions. Bayern, on the other hand, started the league with 3 points and even though they played badly, they didn't suffer a loss. I don't see them as hopeless as you do, they won't change the coach after the 10th week.

I don't think Vincent Kompany is a coach of Bayern Munich's caliber.
Of course, if he finds a good fit, he could be successful, but it seems like it won't happen to me.
It will be clear by November. We will wait and see.
Meanwhile, Leverkusen started very effectively again. While M'gladbach was leading 2-0, Gladbach brought the score to 2-2, but even though Fritz missed a penalty in the last minutes, he completed the returning ball and made the score 3-2 and started the league with a victory.
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This should be a sign for Bayern that this season they cannot relax like previous seasons because indeed the clubs in the Bundesliga are now increasing in quality which makes it difficult for us to predict what happens in 90 minutes of the match.
Exactly, Bayern Munich has a big challenge this season that cannot be underestimated. Leverkusen and Dortmund, at least those two clubs will be their tough competitors.

Especially if we look at the last match Bayern Munich vs Wolfsburg, even though they won, their game was not effective and accurate enough.

Check these statistics:

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They have 71% ball possession, but only 8 shots on target, and only 2 goals created + 1 OG


However, Bayern Munich have made a great start to the season and their style of play has been excellent. A great win at the start of the season which gave Bayern Munich more confidence, and they will play harder in the next matches. But it must be admitted that the biggest challenge for Bayern Munich is that they have to compete with the two teams Leverkusen and Dortmund. Bayern Munich didn't attack at all with the way they played the opening match of the season, and if they deal with that, they will certainly face challenging ones later on. So I think that since the coming matches will be more challenging, Bayern Munich will have to improve their game even more.
What I actually thinks is that the Bayern Munich team is still trying to get used to the playing pattern of Vincent company, so I believe that it's just a matter of time, I know that the expectations are high and the pressure of them winning games are there already, so their is no time for them to relax especially now that borussia dortmund and Bayern Leverkusen is actually on a better form than they are, so in as much as they are still trying to acclimatize to be playing system of Vincent company, they must also be getting the desired result, because their is no time for them to rest and look over there shoulders due to the higher competition in the German bundesliga right now, so in essence of what am trying to say is that, anything this Bayern Munich side are doing, they should be fast about it, because the pressure of those breathing around their kneck are not playing.
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This should be a sign for Bayern that this season they cannot relax like previous seasons because indeed the clubs in the Bundesliga are now increasing in quality which makes it difficult for us to predict what happens in 90 minutes of the match.
Exactly, Bayern Munich has a big challenge this season that cannot be underestimated. Leverkusen and Dortmund, at least those two clubs will be their tough competitors.

Especially if we look at the last match Bayern Munich vs Wolfsburg, even though they won, their game was not effective and accurate enough.

Check these statistics:

Google/bundesliga-wolfsburg-vs-bayern-munich

They have 71% ball possession, but only 8 shots on target, and only 2 goals created + 1 OG


However, Bayern Munich have made a great start to the season and their style of play has been excellent. A great win at the start of the season which gave Bayern Munich more confidence, and they will play harder in the next matches. But it must be admitted that the biggest challenge for Bayern Munich is that they have to compete with the two teams Leverkusen and Dortmund. Bayern Munich didn't attack at all with the way they played the opening match of the season, and if they deal with that, they will certainly face challenging ones later on. So I think that since the coming matches will be more challenging, Bayern Munich will have to improve their game even more.
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Bundesliga clubs that won their first match in this opening match include:
Freiburg against Stuttgart
Dortmund against Frankfurt
Leverkusen against Mönchengladbach
Hoffeinheim against Holstein Kiel
Leipzig against Bochum.

Honestly, I was surprised by Stuttgart's defeat against Freiburg even though last season Stuttgart was an impressive club but in this opening match they achieved less than satisfactory results, is it because they have lost their goal-scoring machine Guraissy which has caused a decline in their performance this season?

After that we will watch the rest of the first match, namely Bayern Munich vs Wolfsburg and St. Pauli vs Heidenheim, I just have to wait for the results of Bayern Munich's match tonight to win this bet.

You are likely to win the bet, it is a good betting choice, Bayern Munich will definitely win the match against Wolfsburg if there is no big surprise because the Bayern team with its new coach is currently having high confidence so the early season match is quite important for them to win.
Yes in the end it is true as you said Bayern Munich won over Wolfsburg with a score of 2:3 bookies also made Bayern Munich the favorite to win, in this match Bayern Munich was quite lucky because Wolfsburg players made mistakes while defending and they scored an own goal which benefited Bayern Munich, maybe the match ended in a draw but Serge Gnabry created the third goal for Bayern Munich so they managed to win and get their first 3 points.

And for the St. Pauli vs Heidenheim match the victory for the visiting club the promoted club could not match Heidenheim's game even though they played more shots but could not break into the opponent's goal.
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Typical of Kompanyball, it's strong on offense, but weak on defense. It's pretty much the same as what Kompany did at Burnley, and he is now implementing it at Bayern. The defensive line has become our main issue, but I'm not sure this can be sorted out in a short time. The defensive line looks very catastrophic, especially in the center back.

Kim is a constant liability for us, and he must be benched. And I'd replace him with Dier instead. Though this is the first game of this season, we won't win any trophies if we defend like this all seasons.


At least my predictions for Leverkusen , Dortmund and Bayern Munich was right on the first Matchday.

I have not seen the game from Dortmund and Bayern Munich but looks like that Gnabry is back in a good way.


We need to see him more; this is because his attempts were atrocious despite he scored a goal for us.
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This should be a sign for Bayern that this season they cannot relax like previous seasons because indeed the clubs in the Bundesliga are now increasing in quality which makes it difficult for us to predict what happens in 90 minutes of the match.
Exactly, Bayern Munich has a big challenge this season that cannot be underestimated. Leverkusen and Dortmund, at least those two clubs will be their tough competitors.

Especially if we look at the last match Bayern Munich vs Wolfsburg, even though they won, their game was not effective and accurate enough.

Check these statistics:

Google/bundesliga-wolfsburg-vs-bayern-munich

They have 71% ball possession, but only 8 shots on target, and only 2 goals created + 1 OG
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Certainly, that game was a nail-biter. Kompany has some chores to accomplish. Wolfsburg assuming the lead? That served as a summons to wakefulness. But hey, these are early days. Kane and Gnabry? That is the future right there. Kane's predator is another one. Though he had the least flashy game, he was where he needed to be. World-class strikers operate in this way

Not a masterpiece, this was a grind. Kompany has to find out how to have this team firing on targets. Leverkusens, Stuttgart - those will be actual challenges
The result for the match in the first match at least it was still quite good for Bayern even though they had to bother with Wolfsburg's resistance but in the end 3 points they could get.
In terms of quality, the superiority of Bayern players makes their condition certainly still quite good but as you said, in this case Kompany still has to try to make their performance better because even though they won this match, they were quite troubled in the matches they did so that the dominance and rhythm they created were sometimes a little lost with the opponent's counterattack that could not be anticipated.

This should be a sign for Bayern that this season they cannot relax like previous seasons because indeed the clubs in the Bundesliga are now increasing in quality which makes it difficult for us to predict what happens in 90 minutes of the match.

That's right, Kompany must work harder to adapt quickly, so he can secure 3 points in a better way. The first challenge was successfully overcome by Kompany and his troops, although Wolfsburg almost forced Bayern Munich to share points. Throughout the match, Kompany squad looked very dominant in possession of the ball, this indicates that they are quite calm, but have not found their best form. I am quite sure, in the future they will perform better, considering that Kompany has a number of quality players in his squad.

In reality, Bayern Munich still presents themselves as the rulers of the Bundesliga, they will remain one of the most serious title contenders, and Leverkusen is the main obstacle they must defeat. We realize that the competition for the trophy this season will be even fiercer, especially if Xabi Alonso squad continues its unbeaten trend. I hope Dortmund, Stuttgart and Leipzig can enliven the race, so that the competition at the top of the Bundesliga standings will be even more interesting.
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I believe that Bayern Munich will be a disappointment in the Bundesliga this year too. Today, Wolfsburg was ahead 0-1 away. At the beginning of the second half, Wolfsburg made the score 2-1. At minute 65, Kaminski scored his own goal and the score became 2-2.  S.Gnabry scored the winning goal for Bayern in the 82nd minute and Bayern finished the match 2-3.
I think Bayern will lose this league again this year, depending on the football played. Maybe there may even be a change of coach before the 10th week.

This is not Chelsea or any English team that are fond of changing their coaches anytime they feel like they don’t perform. Bayern Munich is a team that has the potential for the league title this season and what matters in every match is the wins they’re able to get from the match not how they struggle to get that win. If they’ve won today, there’s nothing wrong with the time they won the match since they’ve gotten their three points from the game already.

If they lose matches in succession for a very long time, that’s when we can say that they need to adjust in order not to repeat the same thing that happened last season. Kompany is really trying his best and I hope he can continue till the end of the season to give Bayern Munich a league victory and also gain more trust to his name.

Next round it will be hard one for Bayern Munich since they will face Freiburg and also for Bayer Leverkusen since their enemy will be Leipzig.

I feel more for Bayern Leverkusen because of their opponent but looking from another point, they look more qualitative than Leipzig. The game may give them a tough time but all they need is to focus on winning the game and they’ll win the match at the end of the day. This will be the most toughest match they’ll first play this season since it began.
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Just to clear some confusion:
Leverkusen did beat the (European) record of a number of games without loss across all competitions, with a run of 51, which ended on the EL final loss to Atalanta.
But it's Bayern that still holds a record of games without loss for Bundesliga games only, which is a run of 53. Leverkusen are still going with their previous season's undefeated Bundesliga games though, which I believe is now 35, so there is still a pretty long way to go to beat Bayern's record.
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At least my predictions for Leverkusen , Dortmund and Bayern Munich was right on the first Matchday.
I have not seen the game from Dortmund and Bayern Munich but looks like that Gnabry is back in a good way.
Between Heidenheim and Holstein Kiel there are still no goals and fingers crossed that Heidenheim will win that.
It was what everyone expected, none of those team is expected to lose on the first Match Day. Leverkusen showed what they were made of, Dortmund did as well and today Bayern Munich didn’t disappoint as well although they were tested by their opponent wolfsburg as they equalized and took the lead just a few minutes after the half time break but Bayern were able to take back the lead and secured all 3 points.

It’s not the perfect game but they will definitely improve their game with time i fully trust the manager and i have no doubt that he will compete for the title this season. For now it doesn’t matter what the score line will be all that matters is to win and secure all 3 points.

The three big teams did win their first league game of the season but we must admit that Bayer Leverkusen and Bayern Munich had to pass through the mouth of the needle to get the late winning goal after almost ending the game in a 2:2 draw.
For team Bayer Leverkusen and Bayern Munich game, I think they were very lucky to have taken all 3 points but they shouldn't be expecting the miracle every time cause this season my not be like last season where Leverkusen got me lucky to score after 90+minutes in more than 4 matches and for Bayern Munich, Vincent kompany has to understand his team as fast as possible especially knowing how to make the right changes to avoid his team scoring goals and not being able to defend their goals.

Leverkusen really surprised me during that game, I had a straight win bet on them checking on live how they were playing draw close to the final whistle made me loose every possiblity  of Leverkusen taking the winning goal. This late winner is something Leverkusen is currently known for, it helped them a lot last season achieving some titles but this may not be as favourable as before. If Leverkusen are winning by the last minute and yet conceiving good number of goals doesn't set them on that standard of defending the title, Bayern Munich seems like they are having it in full control this time.
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Certainly, that game was a nail-biter. Kompany has some chores to accomplish. Wolfsburg assuming the lead? That served as a summons to wakefulness. But hey, these are early days. Kane and Gnabry? That is the future right there. Kane's predator is another one. Though he had the least flashy game, he was where he needed to be. World-class strikers operate in this way

Not a masterpiece, this was a grind. Kompany has to find out how to have this team firing on targets. Leverkusens, Stuttgart - those will be actual challenges
The result for the match in the first match at least it was still quite good for Bayern even though they had to bother with Wolfsburg's resistance but in the end 3 points they could get.
In terms of quality, the superiority of Bayern players makes their condition certainly still quite good but as you said, in this case Kompany still has to try to make their performance better because even though they won this match, they were quite troubled in the matches they did so that the dominance and rhythm they created were sometimes a little lost with the opponent's counterattack that could not be anticipated.

This should be a sign for Bayern that this season they cannot relax like previous seasons because indeed the clubs in the Bundesliga are now increasing in quality which makes it difficult for us to predict what happens in 90 minutes of the match.
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I believe that Bayern Munich will be a disappointment in the Bundesliga this year too. Today, Wolfsburg was ahead 0-1 away. At the beginning of the second half, Wolfsburg made the score 2-1. At minute 65, Kaminski scored his own goal and the score became 2-2.  S.Gnabry scored the winning goal for Bayern in the 82nd minute and Bayern finished the match 2-3.
I think Bayern will lose this league again this year, depending on the football played. Maybe there may even be a change of coach before the 10th week.
It will not be very fair to associate Bayern Munich with such, been a disappointment means a whole lot of set back and poor performance, even last season they weren't that bad, the only difference was they had a different result from the regular which is supposed to be a normal, I mean if they become the only bundesliga trophy winner every season, wouldn't you get bored with the bundesliga? They finished at the second position with a very good point as against those who followed after them, so it was a very good one from them to see them as a disappointment, even if they finished same position this season, I will still see it as a good one because they are trying to rebuild with a new coach which we all know how tasking that could be.
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At least my predictions for Leverkusen , Dortmund and Bayern Munich was right on the first Matchday.
I have not seen the game from Dortmund and Bayern Munich but looks like that Gnabry is back in a good way.
Between Heidenheim and Holstein Kiel there are still no goals and fingers crossed that Heidenheim will win that.
It was what everyone expected, none of those team is expected to lose on the first Match Day. Leverkusen showed what they were made of, Dortmund did as well and today Bayern Munich didn’t disappoint as well although they were tested by their opponent wolfsburg as they equalized and took the lead just a few minutes after the half time break but Bayern were able to take back the lead and secured all 3 points.

It’s not the perfect game but they will definitely improve their game with time i fully trust the manager and i have no doubt that he will compete for the title this season. For now it doesn’t matter what the score line will be all that matters is to win and secure all 3 points.

The three big teams did win their first league game of the season but we must admit that Bayer Leverkusen and Bayern Munich had to pass through the mouth of the needle to get the late winning goal after almost ending the game in a 2:2 draw.
For team Bayer Leverkusen and Bayern Munich game, I think they were very lucky to have taken all 3 points but they shouldn't be expecting the miracle every time cause this season my not be like last season where Leverkusen got me lucky to score after 90+minutes in more than 4 matches and for Bayern Munich, Vincent kompany has to understand his team as fast as possible especially knowing how to make the right changes to avoid his team scoring goals and not being able to defend their goals.
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I also bet on Dortmund, Leverkusen and Bayern and they are also my three favourites for the title. I'm a little disappointed with Stuttgart, as I was expecting a slightly better performance.
You mean St. Pauli against Heidenheim  Grin I'm a secret fan of St Pauli, so I was hoping for a draw, but it was actually clear that Heidenheim would win the game. I have to remain objective when I place bets.
Ha yeah that was my fault and yes i mean St.Pauli and not Holstein Kiel damn  Cheesy
I also was disappointed with Stuttgart and the lose of them was costing me my bet , hope they play better next weekend against Mainz.

Bayern Munich wasn't facing a top club like Bayer Leverkusen or Borussia Dortmund, yet they almost missed two points in that match against Wolfsburg.
It is just the beginning of the season so winning by any manner is ok but at later stage, such match could kill their hope to get back the lost title..
Next round it will be hard one for Bayern Munich since they will face Freiburg and also for Bayer Leverkusen since their enemy will be Leipzig.
Even its just the beginning of the season , specially here you should not underestimate smaller Clubs and Teams.
So for the next Weekend the top game will be Leverkusen against Leipzig , as i expect Bayern Munich to win about Freiburg.
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At least my predictions for Leverkusen , Dortmund and Bayern Munich was right on the first Matchday.
I have not seen the game from Dortmund and Bayern Munich but looks like that Gnabry is back in a good way

I also bet on Dortmund, Leverkusen and Bayern and they are also my three favourites for the title. I'm a little disappointed with Stuttgart, as I was expecting a slightly better performance.

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Between Heidenheim and Holstein Kiel there are still no goals and fingers crossed that Heidenheim will win that.

You mean St. Pauli against Heidenheim  Grin I'm a secret fan of St Pauli, so I was hoping for a draw, but it was actually clear that Heidenheim would win the game. I have to remain objective when I place bets.
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Stuttgart sold a few players in the off-season and it was already clear that they couldn't be as strong as last season. I don't know what lesson they should learn from this defeat, they opened the scoring in the 2nd minute, but then they only had two shots on target in the whole match, so maybe they were just lucky to score that early goal. Today Bayern play their first match in the Bundesliga, there is a little less than half an hour left, it will be interesting to see what they can do with Kompany. Sane and Stanisic will miss this match due to injuries, Müller starts on the bench.
Stuttgart which is having interesting history in Bundesliga at the end of 2023 they were having fight for survival and ended on same zone but at the end of 2024 they were ended on second spot behind Bayer Leverkusen and up Bayern Munich was impressive transformation for any team, but things are getting another change as they are already sold their few big players and having not good start of the season.

With things are still manageable for them because it's just start of the campaign, and they can go through with better strategy and solid performance we have good start for few clubs like Bayern Munich RB Leipzig and Borussia Dortmund which is good sign, but surely things needs to be had more improved for the Stuttgart if they want to keep things on track and having their best back again in this season.
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At least my predictions for Leverkusen , Dortmund and Bayern Munich was right on the first Matchday.
I have not seen the game from Dortmund and Bayern Munich but looks like that Gnabry is back in a good way.
Between Heidenheim and Holstein Kiel there are still no goals and fingers crossed that Heidenheim will win that.
It was what everyone expected, none of those team is expected to lose on the first Match Day. Leverkusen showed what they were made of, Dortmund did as well and today Bayern Munich didn’t disappoint as well although they were tested by their opponent wolfsburg as they equalized and took the lead just a few minutes after the half time break but Bayern were able to take back the lead and secured all 3 points.

It’s not the perfect game but they will definitely improve their game with time i fully trust the manager and i have no doubt that he will compete for the title this season. For now it doesn’t matter what the score line will be all that matters is to win and secure all 3 points.
To be fair while it was all what everyone expected, you can see by the end of the season that there are barely 10 times when all three win at the same time, not that they do not end up winning, they all do, but they take turns having a draw or a loss, and usually that doesn't happen on the same week neither, meaning that only a maximum of dozen weeks we have when all three win at the same time.

Could be different this season though, not every season is like that, sometimes teams are great and they just all win and get a ton of points, look at Bayern and see what points they got when they won the league for that many years, some of them are much higher and some are much lower, and if it's one of the low ones this year then we may see very little all three win at the same time, if it's high then we may see plenty. This isn't a bet that is guaranteed, if it was that much guaranteed then the return would be more than double or even triple of what you pay for.
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Bayern Munich struggled just too much.  Sad  I mean they were very impressive in the first half. But the second half they started to give more opportunities to their opponent to score. Wolfsburg didn't turn it down as you can see.

Bayern Munich wasn't facing a top club like Bayer Leverkusen or Borussia Dortmund, yet they almost missed two points in that match against Wolfsburg.
It is just the beginning of the season so winning by any manner is ok but at later stage, such match could kill their hope to get back the lost title..
Next round it will be hard one for Bayern Munich since they will face Freiburg and also for Bayer Leverkusen since their enemy will be Leipzig.
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At least my predictions for Leverkusen , Dortmund and Bayern Munich was right on the first Matchday.
I have not seen the game from Dortmund and Bayern Munich but looks like that Gnabry is back in a good way.
Between Heidenheim and Holstein Kiel there are still no goals and fingers crossed that Heidenheim will win that.
The three big German clubs you mentioned all secured three points from their first league game of the season but it was Borussia Dortmund that got a more convincing win among the three. Bayer Leverkusen needed a stoppage time goal to win their game while Serge Gnabry scored in the 82nd minute of their game to get all three points. Talking about about Serge Gnabry and how improved he is at the moment, I will say the Germany international have improved from what we saw from him last season but don't think we should conclude about his improvement after just onr game

Bayern won but conceded two goals, as did Leverkusen, while Dortmund won smoothly without conceding. Looking at the course of the match, all three teams mentioned dominated the match. Well, whether it's Bayern or Leverkusen, they have to improve their defense so that it is not easy for their opponents to break through later. Talking about the Munich vs Wolfsburg match, if I refer to Bayern Munich's statistical data, their defenders were very underperforming. Fortunately, the other players performed quite well. One more thing, Kane usually always scores a goal in his first match. But in fact, he did not perform badly, one assist was created by Kane. In this first match, it was a lesson for Kompany to evaluate the team's overall performance. It seems that the system he implemented did not work well, even though they won full points, their defense performance was quite bad. If Bayern does not want to experience the same thing, especially when meeting a stronger team, Kompany has a job to fix the team he coaches.
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