I haven't seen the full Villa - Bayern match and looking only at the game statistics, I was of the impression that Bayern was heavily dominating the game with ball possession of 70% and a significant advantage in shots on goal and that their loss was mostly due to bad luck.
But I've just watched some highlights and it doesn't at all look like Bayern could pose that much of a threat to Villa. They had some chances but so did Villa, and, if anything, it seemed like an even game. And not to mention that Upamecano should've been sent off for that two tactical fouls he committed.
Meanwhile, Bayern's next rival, Eintracht Frankfurt, is beating Besiktas 2-0 in Istambul.
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All teams competing in the Bundesliga have an equal chance of winning the title, Kompany will try to make Bayern Munich the Bundesliga champions again after their dominance was destroyed by Leverkusen last season. Of course, it was not easy to make Bayern Munich stay at the top of the standings until the end of the season in his first season working there, especially since Leverkusen still looked very powerful under Alonso guidance.
It will be a difficult challenge for Kompany in his first season with Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga, because Kompany has to fight a team that is still quite strong in the Bundesliga this season, namely Leverkusen. In addition, Dortmund and several other teams can also be obstacles that are not easy for Kompany because in the Bundesliga sometimes there are still several teams that can appear impressively for several matches so that this can also be an obstacle for Bayern Munich to remain consistent in maintaining itself at the top of the standings.The real challenge for Kompany will come soon when Leverkusen and other teams understand the strategy Kompany uses in Bayern Munich which can make Xabi Alonso understand the weaknesses and the way they can win against Kompany and his partner. However, so far Kompany had an epic performance in the Bundesliga but I don't think if this will continue for a long time regardless of the players and potential they have in Bayern Munich. In my own idea still, Leverkusen can have a much better chance than Bayern Munich.
Sure. I have also thought that Bayern Munich's performance may not end like this because Kompany comes with new strategies. That is why other clubs that can be able to beat Bayern Munich are still finding it hard to do that. Especially Bayern Leverkusen, who is still strong enough to fight for the Bundesliga title this season. Once they get to understand the pattern, they will definitely bring Bayern Munich down because they are strong and competitive.
Furthermore, we all see how they lose to Aston Villa in the Champions League, which shows the Bayern Munich performance is already getting slow. If they continue like that, it may apply the same thing to them in the Bundesliga, and that will give my favourite team in the Bundesliga, namely Bayer Leverkusen , a high chance of getting to the top spot.
We are definitely seeing something unique on the UCL table right now. Brest being second? Really? That feels very unique and wouldn't have guessed at all. Dortmund being at the top is great but they are the latest finalists, while they may not traditionally be considered as a great team that may win it, they were finalists last year so just one win separated them from being ucl winners. So being at the top is not unlikely for them, they did what they may have done, and a good win for sure.
Bayern losing to a team like Villa definitely impacted this, or Madrid losing to Lille as well, they could have won with big margins and be there too. Arsenal being 13th place, Bayern being 15th place, Real Madrid being 17th with Barcelona right there with 16th, Hell Milan is 32nd right now. These are all obviously unlikely results for these teams so far and they will need to do better. I like this new concept, it made things much more fun, these teams will need to do much better.
Bayern losing to a team like Villa definitely impacted this, or Madrid losing to Lille as well, they could have won with big margins and be there too. Arsenal being 13th place, Bayern being 15th place, Real Madrid being 17th with Barcelona right there with 16th, Hell Milan is 32nd right now. These are all obviously unlikely results for these teams so far and they will need to do better. I like this new concept, it made things much more fun, these teams will need to do much better.
The game between Bayern Munich and Aston Villa, is just like two Premier League side that played the match, as Vincent Kompany being their manager did spend a lot of time at England as a player and as a coach, So, Aston Villa manager kind of know his tactical system and used it to win that game, I wouldn't have believed on a norm that Bayern would have in their history lost to Aston Villa that doesn't have much of Champions League experience lately.
The style of play is indeed almost the same where until now Kompany has indeed adapted the EPL style for Bayern in his coaching and of course some EPL dropouts such as Olise and Palhinha make this complete so that it is like a game in the EPL alone. But it is indeed quite unfortunate when they have to lose this match even though Aston Villa also deserves to win where they play very well in the defensive scheme carried out which makes the Bayern players hassle with the fortress of defense even though they have tried to control the game with possession and opportunities.Bayern played very well but Aston Villa also did not play badly which in the end made Bayern have to lose points. On the other hand, this is the second time where Bayern have lost to Emery because previously also in a few seasons ago Bayern had to lose in the quarter-finals which at that time Emery served as coach at Villarreal.
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Dortmund's second victory in the Champions League this time Dortmund won by scoring 7 goals and Celtic themselves were only able to reply with 1 goal. This is an extraordinary result for Dortmund this season and currently they are still at the top of the standings with the most goals scored among other clubs but fortunately Dortmund has not met the real challenge because a tougher club is waiting for them in front of them, namely against Real Madrid and Barcelona. I think Dortmund will face great difficulties facing these clubs. He has to prepare for the 3rd match against the Spanish giants Real Madrid.
Dortmund's second victory in the Champions League this time Dortmund won by scoring 7 goals and Celtic themselves were only able to reply with 1 goal. This is an extraordinary result for Dortmund this season and currently they are still at the top of the standings with the most goals scored among other clubs but fortunately Dortmund has not met the real challenge because a tougher club is waiting for them in front of them, namely against Real Madrid and Barcelona. I think Dortmund will face great difficulties facing these clubs. He has to prepare for the 3rd match against the Spanish giants Real Madrid.
I think Dortmund is going to have problems when they will be facing bigger opponents. This match was not that hard for them to win in my opinion. And I think that is proven by the results that we have had in this match.
I think they will face real problems in the next Champions League match which they will play against Real Madrid. That is going to be the biggest challenge for them. But I hope that they will be able to take confidence from the fact that they have performed really well in this match against Celtic. I also believe they will have more confidence if they perform well in the Bundesliga matches before the match against Real Madrid.
All teams competing in the Bundesliga have an equal chance of winning the title, Kompany will try to make Bayern Munich the Bundesliga champions again after their dominance was destroyed by Leverkusen last season. Of course, it was not easy to make Bayern Munich stay at the top of the standings until the end of the season in his first season working there, especially since Leverkusen still looked very powerful under Alonso guidance.
It will be a difficult challenge for Kompany in his first season with Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga, because Kompany has to fight a team that is still quite strong in the Bundesliga this season, namely Leverkusen. In addition, Dortmund and several other teams can also be obstacles that are not easy for Kompany because in the Bundesliga sometimes there are still several teams that can appear impressively for several matches so that this can also be an obstacle for Bayern Munich to remain consistent in maintaining itself at the top of the standings.The real challenge for Kompany will come soon when Leverkusen and other teams understand the strategy Kompany uses in Bayern Munich which can make Xabi Alonso understand the weaknesses and the way they can win against Kompany and his partner. However, so far Kompany had an epic performance in the Bundesliga but I don't think if this will continue for a long time regardless of the players and potential they have in Bayern Munich. In my own idea still, Leverkusen can have a much better chance than Bayern Munich.
I dont fully agree with you on that , that Dortmund only wanted to make money or profit even it looks like this way.
Mostly if players will getting better or very good at team they for sure want more money at some stage and thats the reason why they leave the Club.
Because most of the smaller Clubs cant efford to pay them the money they want specially when there is no big sponsor behind the Club as other have.
Exactly, all players play with the dream of wanting to play for a bigger team as the they grow so at some stage they grow bigger than their current club and seek a move to a bigger team that can afford to pay them and also play in bigger competitions as well. Mostly if players will getting better or very good at team they for sure want more money at some stage and thats the reason why they leave the Club.
Because most of the smaller Clubs cant efford to pay them the money they want specially when there is no big sponsor behind the Club as other have.
Dortmund have gotten to the biggest stages in football so i don’t think paying players is the reason why they sell them but just that the players seek to play in a bigger club. Dortmund scout needs to be appreciated for bringing in talented young players to the team making it easier for the club to sell them at higher prices when big clubs come asking and it the reason why people think they are only interested in making profit from player sales.
I dont fully agree with you on that , that Dortmund only wanted to make money or profit even it looks like this way.
Mostly if players will getting better or very good at team they for sure want more money at some stage and thats the reason why they leave the Club.
Because most of the smaller Clubs cant efford to pay them the money they want specially when there is no big sponsor behind the Club as other have.
Exactly, all players play with the dream of wanting to play for a bigger team as the they grow so at some stage they grow bigger than their current club and seek a move to a bigger team that can afford to pay them and also play in bigger competitions as well. Mostly if players will getting better or very good at team they for sure want more money at some stage and thats the reason why they leave the Club.
Because most of the smaller Clubs cant efford to pay them the money they want specially when there is no big sponsor behind the Club as other have.
Dortmund have gotten to the biggest stages in football so i don’t think paying players is the reason why they sell them but just that the players seek to play in a bigger club. Dortmund scout needs to be appreciated for bringing in talented young players to the team making it easier for the club to sell them at higher prices when big clubs come asking and it the reason why people think they are only interested in making profit from player sales.
Yes you are right, where statistics will not always bring victory to the team that dominates the field, this was proven in the Aston Villa vs Munich match, it was very clear that the home team lost badly in possession and opportunities, but Aston Villa was able to steal a goal with the few opportunities they had with a fast attack and taking advantage of Manuel Neuer who was too advanced and I don't think he expected that.
moreover, the defense built by Aston Villa was very tight, making Kompany's squad unable to break through and score goals.
Yes, this Bayern Munich defeat is proof that UCL always provides surprises, I hope this defeat will not lower Bayern Munich's mentality in the UCL competition.
moreover, the defense built by Aston Villa was very tight, making Kompany's squad unable to break through and score goals.
Yes, this Bayern Munich defeat is proof that UCL always provides surprises, I hope this defeat will not lower Bayern Munich's mentality in the UCL competition.
Bayern Munich actually played their game very well, they dominated the game throughout the match. Unfortunately, out of 17 total shots, none of them were converted into goals. Plus, Emi Martinez did his job very well for Aston Villa by making 7 saves. Bayern played as they should, but unfortunately this match was won by the home team. If Kompany did not rotate some of his players, such as Olise on the wing and Jamal Musiala behind Harry Kane, Gnabry remained in his position. Maybe the result of this match would have been different, but it seems that Kompany has another plan to bench Jamal Musiala. Instead, Michael Olise played a role in filling his position. But, in any case, Bayern Munich lost the match against Aston Villa. There is no choice but to accept the defeat and return to focus on the Bundesliga, while preparing the Bayern Munich players when they visit Camp Nou, Barcelona's home base in the next match of the Champions League group stage.
In addition, maybe besides business, Dortmund could not retain its star players because the players wanted to leave or wanted to be sold. But what is clear is that Dortmund's advantages so far, although it is difficult to get trophies, Borussia Dortmund is a team that is quite fast in regenerating its players. Just look at what happened in the UCL league after beating Celtic, in the Bundesliga they did start the season badly but I am sure they will soon recover and indeed their target this season is to enter the top three of the Bundesliga.
I dont fully agree with you on that , that Dortmund only wanted to make money or profit even it looks like this way.Mostly if players will getting better or very good at team they for sure want more money at some stage and thats the reason why they leave the Club.
Because most of the smaller Clubs cant efford to pay them the money they want specially when there is no big sponsor behind the Club as other have.
Thus, I personally just want to admit that Dortmund does prioritize its business. But even so, Dortmund still has a good effort to be able to make the team also remain good even though it has repeatedly sold its great players. In this case, basically Dortmund has a balance in managing the team, so it is not surprising that Dortmund still has good results even though it always sells its best players.
The away game may be a challenge for Bayern Munich. Because they have a lot of fans in England who support Aston Villa. Bayern Munich will not lose any game they play in Germany. Because their crowd support is incredible. They have also built a very high-quality squad this year. With a few touches and the biggest change in the coaching staff, many positive things have happened to the team. The strong teams of the Bundesliga are progressing very well in the Champions League this year. Another important victory was Borussia Dortmund's 7-1 victory.
Sometimes there is home advantage due to fans motivating their players. One of the reasons is that when teams play at home, their performances often improve. However, the truth is that when the opponent is stronger, even if a team is playing at home, it won't stop the stronger team from winning.so in this case as Bayern Munich playing against Aston Villa at Aston Villa's home doesn't necessarily mean that Aston Villa will win. However, they may put in more effort to have a good game and make their fans happy, which could make the game difficult for Bayern Munich. Honestly, with Bayern Munich's current form, I can't say Aston Villa has a strong chance of winning, but they might be lucky enough to get a draw.
The three Germany teams in the Champions League are really having impressive results, and that shows they are strong teams. But from my observations, these results might just be because they are facing average teams. I will only believe these three teams are truly strong when they play against teams like Manchester City, Real Madrid, or Barcelona. Still, I am impressed by their performances so far.
Dortmund is one of the top teams in Europe and they were finalists in UCL last season. They are also one of the best teams in Bundesliga. But unfortunately they have always been below Munich in the last few seasons. I have no doubt they are a title contender for Bundesliga but unfortunately they have almost always failed because of inconsistency. After a long period of dominance from Munich we finally have some challengers this season. Munich, Leverkusen, Leipzig and Dortmund are my favorite teams to win the Bundesliga trophy. I think the league will be better when several teams can compete with each other.
The reason is obvious because Dortmund are too business-minded than title priorities and just look at how many talented young players they have sold to other clubs and there almost all of them have achieved success with their new clubs. Dortmund are Champions League finalists next season but I don't see a fierce competition and even Real Madrid easily won the match.Not so sure that Dortmund will be a Bundesliga contender this season because now there are several other teams who are much stronger. Before Leverkusen became the team they are now, they should have been one of the strong candidates for the title, but Dortmund always failed to achieve a good finish in the Bundesliga.
In addition, maybe besides business, Dortmund could not retain its star players because the players wanted to leave or wanted to be sold. But what is clear is that Dortmund's advantages so far, although it is difficult to get trophies, Borussia Dortmund is a team that is quite fast in regenerating its players. Just look at what happened in the UCL league after beating Celtic, in the Bundesliga they did start the season badly but I am sure they will soon recover and indeed their target this season is to enter the top three of the Bundesliga.
I dont fully agree with you on that , that Dortmund only wanted to make money or profit even it looks like this way.Mostly if players will getting better or very good at team they for sure want more money at some stage and thats the reason why they leave the Club.
Because most of the smaller Clubs cant efford to pay them the money they want specially when there is no big sponsor behind the Club as other have.
The reason is obvious because Dortmund are too business-minded than title priorities and just look at how many talented young players they have sold to other clubs and there almost all of them have achieved success with their new clubs. Dortmund are Champions League finalists next season but I don't see a fierce competition and even Real Madrid easily won the match.
Not so sure that Dortmund will be a Bundesliga contender this season because now there are several other teams who are much stronger. Before Leverkusen became the team they are now, they should have been one of the strong candidates for the title, but Dortmund always failed to achieve a good finish in the Bundesliga.
With the achievements and what is happening to Dortmund now, it seems that the club's goal is only to make money, but it is worth being proud because Dortmund is able to produce "top players". Maybe if its star players did not leave, Dortmund could compete in the Bundesliga and the UCL League. We can see before Leverkusen became what it is now, the competition between Bayern Munich and Dortmund was always tight, when Dortmund was too strong, Bayern Munich always hunted Dortmund players. So it is not surprising that Bayern Munich could dominate the Bundesliga for 11 years.Not so sure that Dortmund will be a Bundesliga contender this season because now there are several other teams who are much stronger. Before Leverkusen became the team they are now, they should have been one of the strong candidates for the title, but Dortmund always failed to achieve a good finish in the Bundesliga.
In addition, maybe besides business, Dortmund could not retain its star players because the players wanted to leave or wanted to be sold. But what is clear is that Dortmund's advantages so far, although it is difficult to get trophies, Borussia Dortmund is a team that is quite fast in regenerating its players. Just look at what happened in the UCL league after beating Celtic, in the Bundesliga they did start the season badly but I am sure they will soon recover and indeed their target this season is to enter the top three of the Bundesliga.
Dortmund is one of the top teams in Europe and they were finalists in UCL last season. They are also one of the best teams in Bundesliga. But unfortunately they have always been below Munich in the last few seasons. I have no doubt they are a title contender for Bundesliga but unfortunately they have almost always failed because of inconsistency. After a long period of dominance from Munich we finally have some challengers this season. Munich, Leverkusen, Leipzig and Dortmund are my favorite teams to win the Bundesliga trophy. I think the league will be better when several teams can compete with each other.
The reason is obvious because Dortmund are too business-minded than title priorities and just look at how many talented young players they have sold to other clubs and there almost all of them have achieved success with their new clubs. Dortmund are Champions League finalists next season but I don't see a fierce competition and even Real Madrid easily won the match.Not so sure that Dortmund will be a Bundesliga contender this season because now there are several other teams who are much stronger. Before Leverkusen became the team they are now, they should have been one of the strong candidates for the title, but Dortmund always failed to achieve a good finish in the Bundesliga.
The competition in the Bundesliga always provides a place for Dortmund despite the tough competition from Bayern Munich and Leverkusen. Because Dortmund only needs to be the arbiter who takes advantage of the situation. There is no reason to get involved in the competition Dortmund prioritises building quality players without ambition to win the Bundesliga trophy.
I agree with you that Borussia Dortmund is too business-minded to gain profit, while they don't seem to care about an achievement that they should also be pursuing. I think I don't need to say anymore what they do so I say something like this, because this is something that is already an open secret for them. If only they were a little focused on pursuing the championship, then I'm sure they would have been able to get it a long time ago, but unfortunately they don't want to do it. Profit is something they continue to pursue every season. Creating new young players and playing well, they will immediately sell them at a very high price, and so on. I think this is the desire of the management and this must change if they want to achieve an achievement.
While other clubs were making losses last year, Borussia Dortmund's profit was about €49.52 million. The club is more interested in making money than winning trophies. Just like Atletico Madrid, the German club is more interested in raising and selling players. I am sure players like Karim Adeyemi might not last long in the club. Immediately there is a lucrative interest from any club, they will let him go. After selling key players, their performance will reduce, and they might struggle for some time before building another set of quality players. 
Dortmund should at least be able to finish in the top four of the league to secure a spot in the Champions League. In the Bundesliga, Dortmund has only lost once in five matches, which I think is still understandable, with the opportunity to narrow the points gap still wide open in the future. Meanwhile, Nuri Sahin squad has been quite impressive in the Champions League this season, many didn't expect them to humiliate Celtic with a 7-1 score. Most of the players Nuri Sahin has are leftovers from Edin Terzic, who last season managed to reach the final against Real Madrid in the Champions League. With some adjustments in the transfer market, Dortmund still seems to be able to pressure Bayern Munich and Leverkusen in the race for the Bundesliga trophy and make a big statement in the Champions League in this season.
Yes Dortmund has started Bundesliga season well losing only one of their first five games. This puts them in good position to finish in top four and qualify for Champions League. Their 7-1 win over Celtic in Champions League shows how strong they can be.Dortmund team is mostly made up of players who reached Champions League final last season under Edin Terzic. This gives Nuri Sahi team strong base. If they make smart signings Dortmund can challenge Bayern Munich and Leverkusen for Bundesliga title and do well in the Champions League.
The match against Club Brugge 3-0 and yesterday 7-1 against Celtic is certainly a perfect victory for them, but it seems that in the next match they will be quite difficult because they will face Madrid in the champions league, although previously Real Madrid lost to LOSC 1-0.
While in the Bundes league itself Dortmund will face Union Berlin who is improving himself.
I think Dortmund's failure to achieve the Bundesliga title has become a very common thing to see, they always finish in the top four of the standings but not in the top ranking, meaning of course Dortmund is a top team in the Bundesliga but they are always unlucky at the end of the season as happened in the last two seasons where they failed to take advantage of the only last chance to break the title dominance of Bayern Munich. With this I think that if only Dortmund stopped their bad habit of selling every quality player in their team then I am sure that the trophy is not something that is too difficult to achieve, because with such a habit they are still able to provide strong competition in the top four area. Another thing of course this season will be more interesting, I will focus on Leverkusen as a surprising team last season and also on Bayern Munich where we see that now they have indications of very good changes in starting the season, several other top teams have the opportunity to win the title this season but I think this season is a competition for two teams Bayern Munich and Leverkusen, we'll see who is stronger.
The thing is the whole aspect of Dortmund not winning the league or selling off their best players all bows down to one thing which is the vision of the club, I can say that even Dortmund has desire to win trophies at the beginning of the season their ambition isn’t as high as that of club like Bayern Munich and that is what is drawing them back. First the hierarchic are just there to me to actually make money and cover for there expenses and most of these players have ambitions to win trophies and that’s why you see them leaving immediately they get to their peak.
I could remember when Dortmund under Jurgen Klopp were challenging for every trophy then with even the champions league included, they had raising stars like Lewandowski, Reus and even Gotze but lost them to their greatest rivals and challengers with only Reus staying, this was actually caused by the financial situation they usually find themselves in but seriously Dortmund hierarchy themselves are not that ambitious and that is what translates to the players on the pitch. This season they have started not quite well and I still don’t think they will go all the way to win it
Of course, the main goal for all clubs, including Dortmund, would be winning at every level. But, in the case of Dortmund, a few other things could mean that they do not always put winning as their first priority. These could be the priority for financial stability and developing young talents to later cash in big on them. Indeed, this can be well understood from how they sell their star players once these players reach their peak.
This approach often thwarts their ambition to be a major player in the long run. So, though they start the season intending to win silverware, the more business-oriented nature of the club and player development maybe one of the reasons they do not truly compete at the very top level on a regular basis. If Dortmund were truly consistent in competing with a strong ambition to win, they would always be a team to be reckoned with.
Dortmund is one of the top teams in Europe and they were finalists in UCL last season. They are also one of the best teams in Bundesliga. But unfortunately they have always been below Munich in the last few seasons. I have no doubt they are a title contender for Bundesliga but unfortunately they have almost always failed because of inconsistency. After a long period of dominance from Munich we finally have some challengers this season. Munich, Leverkusen, Leipzig and Dortmund are my favorite teams to win the Bundesliga trophy. I think the league will be better when several teams can compete with each other.
The reason is obvious because Dortmund are too business-minded than title priorities and just look at how many talented young players they have sold to other clubs and there almost all of them have achieved success with their new clubs. Dortmund are Champions League finalists next season but I don't see a fierce competition and even Real Madrid easily won the match.Not so sure that Dortmund will be a Bundesliga contender this season because now there are several other teams who are much stronger. Before Leverkusen became the team they are now, they should have been one of the strong candidates for the title, but Dortmund always failed to achieve a good finish in the Bundesliga.
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