Topic: Get Donator status by donating 10 BTC - page 22. (Read 138661 times)

There's no need for a new category, the forum doesn't need to raise any money right now.

Should we get a new category for 1BTC that's worth   $100, as opposed to the old 1BTC that was worth $10?

I understand your point, guys; you took a risk and paid with something that could have gone up in value a lot (as it did). But the whole "deflation" thing still really sticks out.

I am usually not the one who eagerly wants to spend other people's money...

... but is there any quality discussion on HOW exactly to employ the forum's/community's funds (acquired through selling the vanity tags), to the best benefit of the members and Bitcoin (which, iirc, at least 50% agree) ?

Well, clearly there needs to be a new category then, like "supporter" for 1 BTC.

These forums are invaluable and no doubt the success of Bitcoin is largely due to them and the quality of the community here.

ITT people who do not understand bitcoin

i need to buy something from these people and a few months down the road demand some btc back when value is up and see how they feel

+1 Good point!

I understand you might look at it that way, but that's definitely NOT how some of us look at it. If Donator status were to be handed out to people spending only 1 BTC, I'd like my 9 BTC back.

That said, I wouldn't mind that some future categories of donation status could be made available if Donator and VIP refunds aren't going to be reimbursed and the levels lowered.

It seems silly to talk about this when the forum has more than enough in funding to take care of itself, though. We already had a slew of people donating or getting VIP status just to scam folks, I'd rather not reintroduce that and throw the forum leadership back into question like it was about a year ago.

You sound like... I don't know who you sound like but nice post.

(You should've seen me a year ago...)

Hi liamwli,

You sound like quite the idealist.  I was once an idealist and it suited me well. Around the time, I was close to your age; 15 years old. I, like yourself, thought I knew everything.

Now, I'm not going to disagree with you but I wanted to share something I learned after more than double the amount of years you have lived. It's what changed my idealist ways:


There are no "supposed-to's" in life, no "should-have's". There are no promises, no guarantees, and you are entitled to nothing but what you get for yourself.  Life is the furthest thing from fair you can imagine. You are worth nothing but that which you create and/or give away for free. 

You are the sole provider; without your efforts, nothing will come of your years. No one is responsible for you but you.  Even your best efforts may not render your imagined results.  Get over it. Your expectations will RARELY meet reality. Learn to work with that, adapt, i-ching or whatever bullshit. Choose yourself, and only count on yourself.


In advance, sorry for the "off-topic" post. I agree with the philosophical stance of pegging the btc amount to itself. This is bitcointalk, totally understandable.  Of course, without any incentive, I won't be donating. I think that's a natural reaction, even from the most feverent members.

Oh, who said I was going to donate anything

I might, if the cost was in my range. I should probably [not] mention that I get around £20 ~ £30 a month from Android app development

I find it funny you want to donate away money that you don't have 

Try joining a political party! 

Oh, and are you willing to send me BTC10 so I can donate

Seriously, 15 year olds don't really have much of an income

I definitely encourage you to pay exactly BTC10 for your Donator tag, can't you see how well it suits me? 

No, it just sort of happens (on almost every forum I go on) unfortunately

Do you come on the forums just to try and cause arguments?

Agreed. But what about things like VIP status? Something that people can buy to prove they're not here with just some easily discarded troll account, and wish to project some level of standing or reputation? I guess maybe just linking to an OTC account would work, but the link would have to be somewhat permanent, since anyone can stick anyone else's OTC rating into their signature file, and then wipe it again once things on their account here go south.

Life should be fair, and anything that makes it not so should be eradicated.

Actually, you can. There's nothing stopping you.

I said a long time ago that the prices would remain the same, so I can't change this policy now in any case.


Maybe. I haven't thought about it much yet. The forum doesn't need donations, so I'm not going to create another donator level soon.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to argue with fiat, I was trying to argue with value.

Two years ago, 50 BTC = 3 to 5 hour's labor - appreciation due to time - risk
Today, 50 BTC = 40 to 80 hour's labor

So, yes, you took a bigger risk, and have forgone future appreciation, but your initial input into getting those 50BTC took nowhere near the effort that it would take for someone to get those same 50BTC now. I'm almost certain that a vast majority of those 50BTC's used for donations were bought using fiat earned from whatever labor exchange rate the donators had in their respective locations. And the only argument you have to stand on is that 37 to 75 hours of labor is worth not having to wait two years, and not having to take on risk (or, conversely, that waiting two years and taking on risk is worth about 1 to 2 weeks of labor).

Don't forget, you are also trying to argue against deflation, and a parallel to your argument would be something like:
"These people buying their 50" LCD TVs RIGHT NOW should get worse quality TVs for their $500, because I bought mine for $1,000 A YEAR AGO, and it would only be fair to make them get crappier TVs for the cheaper price."