Get Donator status by donating 10 BTC - page 23.

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Quote from: Liam W on March 26, 2013, 09:24:37 AM

Quote from: Rassah on March 26, 2013, 09:20:06 AM

Do new donator statuses take into account that it only cost about $10 to $20 for some of the older donators to get their current status, and it would currently take about $800 for current people to buy the same status? One can just as easilly argue the opposite of what was proposed, that NOT lowering the price of a donator status is unfair to all the newcommers as opposed to being unfair to those who donated previously.
Not that I plan to donate; just my 0.0002BTC

Exactly my thinking. Very unfair.

Welcome to life!

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Quote from: Rassah on March 26, 2013, 09:20:06 AM

Do new donator statuses take into account that it only cost about $10 to $20 for some of the older donators to get their current status, and it would currently take about $800 for current people to buy the same status? One can just as easilly argue the opposite of what was proposed, that NOT lowering the price of a donator status is unfair to all the newcommers as opposed to being unfair to those who donated previously.
Not that I plan to donate; just my 0.0002BTC

Exactly my thinking. Very unfair.

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Do new donator statuses take into account that it only cost about $10 to $20 for some of the older donators to get their current status, and it would currently take about $800 for current people to buy the same status? One can just as easilly argue the opposite of what was proposed, that NOT lowering the price of a donator status is unfair to all the newcommers as opposed to being unfair to those who donated previously.
Not that I plan to donate; just my 0.0002BTC

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Quote from: theymos on March 25, 2013, 09:42:02 AM

I intend to add new, cheaper donator ranks. I won't decrease the price of the old ranks, though I may rename them (to "Donator+" and "VIP+" or something like that).

Senior VIP maybe?

Are the new ranks' price going to be variable or adjusted every x days or months depending on BTC price?

What do you think about pegging the price of the rank to something more reliable than a fiat currency but less volatile than BTC? I saw one guy here couple of months ago selling his ebooks for BTC pegged to the price of gold (don't remember the exact amount).

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At the time we did not know that.

It makes me glad I refrained. I haven't donated either to this forum or to BF because I wasn't clear how the money would be used and haven't yet been presented with a reason to regret the decisions.

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I still don't see why anyone would donate at all. Apparently those funds aren't actually being used for anything.

Liam W

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Quote from: theymos on March 25, 2013, 09:42:02 AM

I intend to add new, cheaper donator ranks. I won't decrease the price of the old ranks, though I may rename them (to "Donator+" and "VIP+" or something like that).

Well, you'll certainly be in the money, which makes me wonder why you still use a free forum software. I much prefer vBulletin *hint hint*.

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I intend to add new, cheaper donator ranks. I won't decrease the price of the old ranks, though I may rename them (to "Donator+" and "VIP+" or something like that).

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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.

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I see no reason to lower price and thus refund current supporters. We could always make a new title at one btc or whatever.

It wouldn't hurt me in any way to make donator status available for less bitcoins. I want to see this forum improve. If you want bragging rights, maybe your donation numerical order number could be added.

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on March 24, 2013, 06:46:58 PM

Quote from: Liam W on March 24, 2013, 04:39:31 PM

Will the donate amount change with the BTC value? Bearing in mind 10BTC is worth around $600 now, I'm sure thats much more than 1 months hosting Wink

However, there's a point to be made that changing the donations threshold might be unfair to previous donators.

Welcome to the concept called deflation, where everything you buy is cheaper than what someone else paid for it a few months/years ago. If that is a point that needs to be made, then we're all in for a whole world of hurt.

More specifically butthurt.

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on March 24, 2013, 06:46:58 PM

Quote from: Liam W on March 24, 2013, 04:39:31 PM

Will the donate amount change with the BTC value? Bearing in mind 10BTC is worth around $600 now, I'm sure thats much more than 1 months hosting Wink

However, there's a point to be made that changing the donations threshold might be unfair to previous donators.

That seems to be a common problem with BTC membership fees and the like.
Bitcoin Foundation membership has also become ugly expensive.

On the other hand, i paid my memberships quite a while ago and at that time my coins were just as valuable to me as they are now.

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on March 24, 2013, 06:46:58 PM

Quote from: Liam W on March 24, 2013, 04:39:31 PM

Will the donate amount change with the BTC value? Bearing in mind 10BTC is worth around $600 now, I'm sure thats much more than 1 months hosting Wink

However, there's a point to be made that changing the donations threshold might be unfair to previous donators.

True, but their 10 BTC back then wouldn't have been worth quite as much Tongue

A few months ago, it would've been quite a sum. Today, you really gotta want it!

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Quote from: Liam W on March 24, 2013, 04:39:31 PM

Will the donate amount change with the BTC value? Bearing in mind 10BTC is worth around $600 now, I'm sure thats much more than 1 months hosting Wink

However, there's a point to be made that changing the donations threshold might be unfair to previous donators.

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just to make sure: you already colelcted half a quadrillon moneys, so much that you dont even dare handle it yourself anymore, and you're still asking 10BTC?

mind, i really do not object to taking donations, but wouldnt it be prudent to exhaust current ressources (which would take a loooooooooong time iirc) first?

Liam W

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Will the donate amount change with the BTC value? Bearing in mind 10BTC is worth around $600 now, I'm sure thats much more than 1 months hosting Wink

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Quote from: theymos on January 20, 2013, 02:04:11 AM

There were many offers to do the programming, but they were all by people who I didn't really know, and I'm not at all confident in my ability to hire good people for this kind of thing. I've been working a bit on developing a solid core myself this winter break. If I finish that, I'd be able to offer many smaller bounties for less critical sections of the project.

I'm sure folks like BCB and others could vet a couple programmers if they were willing to give up some anonymity. Also, you may want to plan on having the bounty be split in such a manner that programmers would audit each other's code and pay an extra .5 BTC for every major bug found and .1 BTC for every minor bug, with a third party who is somewhat familiar with programming defining and judging the allocations.

Additionally, maybe you could make/force/require new Donators/VIPs to not only commit to paying to get the tag, but also to responsibly settle at least one future dispute per year between any two programmers working on the above. Or make the Moderators do it to keep their positions? Cheesy

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The bounty for the forum software project is a damn good amount. If I had any programming experience, you can bet I'd be jumping on it. Wouldn't it be easier to use the money to hire a professional developer or company? You could easily afford it with the value of the current bounty.

Quote from: theymos on January 20, 2013, 02:04:11 AM

I was also thinking of using some of the the money to hire a lawyer to make sure the forum is protected in every way possible.

That sounds like a really good idea too. There are quite a few grey areas here and there that need clarification. A free and open forum is a great thing, but we also need to present a positive image for Bitcoin adopters.

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Quote from: 21after2 on January 20, 2013, 01:32:45 AM

Has the original post been updated lately? I would think that BTC10 pays for more than one month of hosting at the current rates.

Prices weren't much lower than the current rate when I made the topic, though hosting is now provided for free by MtGox. The forum is definitely self-sustaining now.

The money rarely gets spent. Here are all of the expenses:

Code:

-25 hosting 2011-09-02
-10 error auth job 2012-06-18
-30 error auth job 2012-07-10
-1.54 RapidSSL 2012-07-10

You can calculate the forum's current holdings by subtracting the expenses from the total received BTC at 17RTTU... This money just sits, mostly at the cold storage address.

It's a lot of money. I'd really like to get the forum software project moving. I'd hoped that someone really trustworthy would step up and offer to manage the thing. A lot of profit could be made I think, but I guess no one sufficiently trustworthy wants to do it. There were many offers to do the programming, but they were all by people who I didn't really know, and I'm not at all confident in my ability to hire good people for this kind of thing. I've been working a bit on developing a solid core myself this winter break. If I finish that, I'd be able to offer many smaller bounties for less critical sections of the project.

I was also thinking of using some of the the money to hire a lawyer to make sure the forum is protected in every way possible.

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