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Topic: Giving up real solomining and going back to solomining on p2pool - page 3. (Read 11013 times)

legendary
Activity: 4592
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Kano, you still never answered the question about what you did with the mining rewards you witheld from the miner on your pool that allegedly stole 10BTC from someone else.

Did you give the rewards to the person who was stolen from or did you keep it for yourself?

To sum it up, you've only stolen from other people who have been accused of stealing. Not from people who haven't solved a block when you think they should have. Your just giving warning that you will do so when and if you feel like it. Is that correct or am I still misunderstanding you. Please translate your jibberish.

And I wouldn't say this thread is useless, it's opened my eyes as to why I would never mine on your pool Kano.is

It's pool operators like you who make p2pool so much more appealing. No pool operator gets to decide who deserves to be paid for their work as anyone can be in control of their own node and not have to worry about the operator witholding payments to them.

You aren't in control.
Worse, verifying withholding is happening on p2pool is way more difficult than on a centralised pool.
Anyone mining on p2pool can withhold blocks and you will lose rewards. Aren't you lucky Smiley
You don't even understand how to detect it. lulz

Your mining on p2pool with a large hash rate and not using "/" was actually driving anyone who understands how p2pool works, away from p2pool.
It's the equivalent of a 51% attack on p2pool and you've done it on multiple occasions.
Yeah you really have no idea what you are doing.

Meanwhile, you have on multiple occasions made false and stupid posts - I don't see you retracting any of that stupidity.
I've wasted too much time posting in this thread - I'm not gonna waste any more of it.

P.S. the BTC is still in the pool, the person is still pointing hash rate at the pool and I keep having to block it.
Sooner or later I'll get around to sending it to the address of the guy who was ripped off.
Oh well, damn shame - and guess what - I'll do it when I feel like doing it.
Ciao.
sr. member
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Merit: 252
Kano, you still never answered the question about what you did with the mining rewards you witheld from the miner on your pool that allegedly stole 10BTC from someone else.

Did you give the rewards to the person who was stolen from or did you keep it for yourself?

To sum it up, you've only stolen from other people who have been accused of stealing. Not from people who haven't solved a block when you think they should have. Your just giving warning that you will do so when and if you feel like it. Is that correct or am I still misunderstanding you. Please translate your jibberish.

And I wouldn't say this thread is useless, it's opened my eyes as to why I would never mine on your pool Kano.is

It's pool operators like you who make p2pool so much more appealing. No pool operator gets to decide who deserves to be paid for their work as anyone can be in control of their own node and not have to worry about the operator witholding payments to them.
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
sr. member
Activity: 347
Merit: 252
Bumped up my orders from westhash a little bit...

http://72.5.73.193:9332/static/graphs.html?Week

Don't know why, other than I felt like finding a block sooner rather than later.

Fingers crossed  Tongue

Im riding on the back of your rentals. As you kick up the hash rate we seem to find a block quicker.
By me adding around 40 / 50 th to my node as rentals, gives me a very cushy payout.
Feel like im using you some how but hey ho whatever works and earns some coins. Smiley

let's hope so Smiley

Looks like I am getting outbid on westhash, going to bump down to 900THs to let other people rent some hash.

One thing I've noticed is you can rent large amounts of hash for shorter periods at reasonable prices, but when you do it for an extended amount of time it makes people angry and they'll be willing to pay sometimes 150℅ of expected rewards to try and make you raise your bid knowing you'll eventually give up and let them continue renting at prices below expected returns.
sr. member
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full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Bumped up my orders from westhash a little bit...

http://72.5.73.193:9332/static/graphs.html?Week

Don't know why, other than I felt like finding a block sooner rather than later.

Fingers crossed  Tongue

Im riding on the back of your rentals. As you kick up the hash rate we seem to find a block quicker.
By me adding around 40 / 50 th to my node as rentals, gives me a very cushy payout.
Feel like im using you some how but hey ho whatever works and earns some coins. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Bumped up my orders again to 3PH before I go to sleep for the night. Will reevaluate whether to bump back down or not when I wake up, depending on whether I get outbid or not on westhash. Going all or nothing for the moment, although this could change at any time.

Mine on p2pool right now!
Let's find a block before Kano.is pool does lol
We are currently at around 50℅ on p2pool and Kano is around 77℅ and he has about ten times the hashpower that p2pool does currently so his pool should find about 10 blocks before p2pool does, but I'm willing to bet it won't...  

Find a node near you! http://poolnode.info

Or point your miners toward my node:

stratum+tcp://:72.5.73.193:9333
Username: yourBTCaddress
Password:x

The nice thing is, if I am unlucky finding a block myself, but someone else finds a block I will be rewarded for my shares, unlike some pool operators like Kano, who has withheld payments from miners who he decides shouldn't deserve a reward because he thinks they should have solved a block based on the amount of shares they submitted. Yet he openly admits that there is no expectations on finding a block after x amount of shares... Boy would I hate to be a large miner on his pool on a bad luck run.
Name one miner on my pool I have held payments from.

The only recent miner that I have withheld payments from is that scammer from Spain who ripped off someone more than 10BTC
I keep blocking his accounts and access to my pool.
... so are you admitting to being him?
sr. member
Activity: 347
Merit: 252
Bumped up my orders again to 3PH before I go to sleep for the night. Will reevaluate whether to bump back down or not when I wake up, depending on whether I get outbid or not on westhash. Going all or nothing for the moment, although this could change at any time.

Mine on p2pool right now!
Let's find a block before Kano.is pool does lol
We are currently at around 50℅ on p2pool and Kano is around 77℅ and he has about ten times the hashpower that p2pool does currently so his pool should find about 10 blocks before p2pool does, but I'm willing to bet it won't...  

Find a node near you! http://poolnode.info

Or point your miners toward my node:

stratum+tcp://:72.5.73.193:9333
Username: yourBTCaddress
Password:x

The nice thing is, if I am unlucky finding a block myself, but someone else finds a block I will be rewarded for my shares, unlike some pool operators like Kano, who has withheld payments from miners who he decides shouldn't deserve a reward because he thinks they should have solved a block based on the amount of shares they submitted. Yet he openly admits that there is no expectations on finding a block after x amount of shares... Boy would I hate to be a large miner on his pool on a bad luck run.

sr. member
Activity: 347
Merit: 252
Thanks for the link Kano  Roll Eyes

Anyone have any knowledge of somewhere where a person could find out p2pools average luck over more than just the last 30 days?
You can't - even for 30 days - coz p2pool has inbuilt higher share loss that has to be accounted for since there's the 'hidden' extra blocks that come from 95% of that share loss.
No one includes it in their luck calculations so you can't actually find a valid luck report for p2pool anywhere.
pleeeeeeze!!! 95℅ of the blocks that are found are from the average of 15℅ stale/d.o.a. shares!?! Lol, that's pretty funny! Tell me another joke, I just can't get enough of your humor R.O.L.M.A.O.

Thinking I'm going to increase my stale/dead shares and find me some blocks!
Stale shares find valid bitcoin blocks on p2pool.

If you use miners that discard stale shares and don't send them to your p2pool, you are literally throwing away blocks.

95% of stale p2pool shares are valid "bitcoin shares" so if they are a block and you don't send them out onto the bitcoin network, then you are throwing away valid bitcoin blocks.
P2pool code does this - once we pointed it out to forrestv long ago Smiley

Maybe you should read up a little about how p2pool works ...
or maybe you should say it right the first time... Instead of trying to mislead people!

And when did I say that I discard stale shares?  Huh
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Thanks for the link Kano  Roll Eyes

Anyone have any knowledge of somewhere where a person could find out p2pools average luck over more than just the last 30 days?
You can't - even for 30 days - coz p2pool has inbuilt higher share loss that has to be accounted for since there's the 'hidden' extra blocks that come from 95% of that share loss.
No one includes it in their luck calculations so you can't actually find a valid luck report for p2pool anywhere.
pleeeeeeze!!! 95℅ of the blocks that are found are from the average of 15℅ stale/d.o.a. shares!?! Lol, that's pretty funny! Tell me another joke, I just can't get enough of your humor R.O.L.M.A.O.

Thinking I'm going to increase my stale/dead shares and find me some blocks!
Stale shares find valid bitcoin blocks on p2pool.

If you use miners that discard stale shares and don't send them to your p2pool, you are literally throwing away blocks.

95% of stale p2pool shares are valid "bitcoin shares" so if they are a block and you don't send them out onto the bitcoin network, then you are throwing away valid bitcoin blocks.
P2pool code does this - once we pointed it out to forrestv long ago Smiley

Maybe you should read up a little about how p2pool works ...
sr. member
Activity: 347
Merit: 252
Bumped up my orders from westhash a little bit...

http://72.5.73.193:9332/static/graphs.html?Week

Don't know why, other than I felt like finding a block sooner rather than later.

Fingers crossed  Tongue
sr. member
Activity: 347
Merit: 252
Thanks for the link Kano  Roll Eyes

Anyone have any knowledge of somewhere where a person could find out p2pools average luck over more than just the last 30 days?
You can't - even for 30 days - coz p2pool has inbuilt higher share loss that has to be accounted for since there's the 'hidden' extra blocks that come from 95% of that share loss.
No one includes it in their luck calculations so you can't actually find a valid luck report for p2pool anywhere.
pleeeeeeze!!! 95℅ of the blocks that are found are from the average of 15℅ stale/d.o.a. shares!?! Lol, that's pretty funny! Tell me another joke, I just can't get enough of your humor R.O.L.M.A.O.

Thinking I'm going to increase my stale/dead shares and find me some blocks!
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Thanks for the link Kano  Roll Eyes

Anyone have any knowledge of somewhere where a person could find out p2pools average luck over more than just the last 30 days?
You can't - even for 30 days - coz p2pool has inbuilt higher share loss that has to be accounted for since there's the 'hidden' extra blocks that come from 95% of that share loss.
No one includes it in their luck calculations so you can't actually find a valid luck report for p2pool anywhere.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
So essentially most if not all pools produce blocks that are not always full, not just p2pool Wink
You can't say all, but otherwise that's correct, except that the average from most pools is much larger than p2pool.

Here's a block size summary, no idea why p2pool isn't included:
http://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/blocksize/6m?t=l

I wish it was included, i would love to see where it falls compared to other pools, and I congratulate you for having the highest average Blocksize on your solo pool, which I love by the way! Nothing beats the excitement of finding a block via solomining!!!
Although it doesn't give you the average you can clearly see how small the average p2pool block is here:
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/pool/p2pool
Is this just because node operators have a low maxblocksize for bitcoind?
Guess to reduce getblocklatency or unsure how to configure at all?
sr. member
Activity: 347
Merit: 252
Thanks for the link Kano  Roll Eyes

Anyone have any knowledge of somewhere where a person could find out p2pools average luck over more than just the last 30 days?
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
So essentially most if not all pools produce blocks that are not always full, not just p2pool Wink
You can't say all, but otherwise that's correct, except that the average from most pools is much larger than p2pool.

Here's a block size summary, no idea why p2pool isn't included:
http://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/blocksize/6m?t=l

I wish it was included, i would love to see where it falls compared to other pools, and I congratulate you for having the highest average Blocksize on your solo pool, which I love by the way! Nothing beats the excitement of finding a block via solomining!!!
Although it doesn't give you the average you can clearly see how small the average p2pool block is here:
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/pool/p2pool
sr. member
Activity: 347
Merit: 252
So essentially most if not all pools produce blocks that are not always full, not just p2pool Wink
You can't say all, but otherwise that's correct, except that the average from most pools is much larger than p2pool.

Here's a block size summary, no idea why p2pool isn't included:
http://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/blocksize/6m?t=l

I wish it was included, i would love to see where it falls compared to other pools, and I congratulate you for having the highest average Blocksize on your solo pool, which I love by the way! Nothing beats the excitement of finding a block via solomining!!!
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
So essentially most if not all pools produce blocks that are not always full, not just p2pool Wink
You can't say all, but otherwise that's correct, except that the average from most pools is much larger than p2pool.

Here's a block size summary, no idea why p2pool isn't included:
http://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/blocksize/6m?t=l
sr. member
Activity: 347
Merit: 252
If only you could always time it like that!

Dare I call it luck?
LMAO, I would say it was lucky that you started your rentals when you did and that they ended when they did, and I'd also say it was lucky that I tripled my hashpower three days before as well, but I'm half terrified of the backlash I might get if I try and say that had any effect on my luck or yours.  Wink

I dunno, kinda like "The Mining Games," in which case "Happy mining. And may the odds be ever in your favor."

I hope so! I'm hoping for a long run of lucky blocks coming our way, yet I'm scaling back down to around 450TH for a little while.

Seems like whenever I get too greedy the block gods withhold them from me to make me realize I'm just a mortal.

This last week was pretty scary! Luckily it turned around and I actually came out alive.
It was scary but then randomly everything just went sweet at just the right time for me.
Me too Smiley
sr. member
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Merit: 252
This last week was pretty scary! Luckily it turned around and I actually came out alive.

It was indeed a pleasant surprise to see two blocks/deposits pop up so close together after an almost 10-day stretch with no block(s). Hopefully it's back to "normal luck" of 100% plus or minus a little blocks, but with nice fat transaction fees in the blocks...

I have this node set for maxblocksize=970000
Hoping for fat transaction fees as well!

I set aside enough to mine with 450TH for a little over 8 days, crossing my fingers Roll Eyes

I think this should give a good salary, not ?  Cheesy
I hope so Smiley
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