Topic: Gleb Gamow account was sold Proof - page 5. (Read 2853 times)

Quoting suchmoon post as it is and the message was successfully verified using http://brainwalletx.github.io/#verify?vrAddr=1A8DePhATaFEyNBJpuybCA8oYUUZEgUraP&vrMsg=This%20is%20suchmoon%202018-06-17.%20I%20control%20bitcointalk%20accounts%20"suchmoon"%20and%20(temporarily)%20"Gleb%20Gamow".&vrSig=HM71xTAaD8xyx7ciTaPTmKLBp7Y7Rzm9uQ5MIdhUJh6ZVUPtz2mAEsiyI%2F4BS5ZQVDnsSnHSWWBw4ur5UjzgxAU%3D

Nice job, thanks. I found it also posted in one of my threads:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/discontinued-cryptoday-mining-revenue-stats-scrypt-scrypt-n-x11-x13-514242 (post has been edited but last edit was 3 years ago).

Message (one line):

This is suchmoon 2018-06-17. I control bitcointalk accounts "suchmoon" and (temporarily) "Gleb Gamow".

Signature:

HM71xTAaD8xyx7ciTaPTmKLBp7Y7Rzm9uQ5MIdhUJh6ZVUPtz2mAEsiyI/4BS5ZQVDnsSnHSWWBw4ur5UjzgxAU=


Well, I would obviously post a warning if I ever lose the account and would request it to be banned/removed from DT/red-tagged etc. But I hear what you're saying. Will fix that soon.

That's a good idea invoking to find a staked address (I was going through their trust but couldn't find anything).

It would obviously be good if you could sign it Suchmoon however it definitley isn't mandetory (it just allows us to have a bit of a better reference). And means we don't have to depend on typed words for when the account goes back to Gleb - as there is then more proof that the account has left you.
I don't think this is the attitude someone on DT should have.
If your account gets compromised then it's free to scam people out of anything. You might not put value on your own account, but someone else would.

Suchmoon has at least one old address 1A8DePhATaFEyNBJpuybCA8oYUUZEgUraP (https://web.archive.org/web/20140403105622/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=234771), if you still have access to it you can sign a message with it...although I don't consider this mandatory.

I never put any value on forum accounts. If I lose my account I'll just start over. Now having Gleb's account puts a bit more responsibility on me but maybe Bruno has a staked address on that one.


Shhh... don't tell Quicksy.

Yeah, I expected that.
I just wanted to see if it was an amount fairly high currently ~1BTC+ to see if it was similar to that loan which, as I understand it, didn't get filled.

Based on all the recent hacks why would you not have a staked address somewhere? I mean if either of those accounts now get compromised then you're stuck without them. I'd advse you stake one.

Is that some sort of reverse psychology

I don't want to get into the details without Bruno's permission but if he wants to share that info - I'm fine with it.


I don't have a staked address as I never expected to be in this position. I'll see if I can find one posted somewhere.


Not sure how to put this politely but I don't care about your red tag or what you think of this deal.


Have you contacted the DT1 members yet?

This should be a good test of the rumor that Quicksy controls Tomatocage. I can't imagine him being happy with this so Gleb almost certainly will get dropped from DT2 if that's the case.

Why would they care to remove negative trust from you? You're negged yourself but DT members.
I don't think what they did is against anything.
And there is also irony in your post. Suchmoon said he isn't going to sell it on or use it (unless back to Bruno) so the account is now stagnant and won't continue to be sold.

Blazed has a history of account sales afaik, it was on a thread somewhere (unless that's just Quicksy fud).
And those accounts/people should do what they seem fit to in response to this. I don't think either should really have much done differntly to them though.

Nothing is lost yet, if you admit what you did was wrong, I will give you another chance and would remove my tag. you could've paid him from your pocket without taking control of the account. it also seems that Bruno has been on account sale business for years. why did you take the account if you trusted him and even asked for his red tags to be removed? you didn't trust him enough that's why you tried to buy the account and make it look like you are helping him.

Therefore I'd like to ask Tomatocage to exclude Gleb from DT2 before we see suchmoon to start tagging people with it. I would also like to ask Blazed and dooglus to exclude suchmoon from DT2, she is a blatant account buyer. unless Blazed and dooglus agree with suchmoon's actions? if they agree with such a blatant case of account trading maybe we need to ask theymos to exclude them from DT1?

How much did you give him for it if you're happy saying?

Also this is kinda sad that all these users accounts are changing hands since the time I've been here. It'd be nice if more people would just hold onto their accounts but sure, If people need the money then they can sell. Although, this is one of the more notable members so hopefully Bruno gets posession of his account once again!

I'm also curious as to whether this was because of the loan request he made in October/November (for 2BTC) or whether it's for something else he needed the money for, though I think that's a bit too intrusive. I'm not sure that loan request ever got filled, I knew that he didn't want to give the Gleb account then so something must really have hit him hard.

I'd also suggest that the negative tags on the Gleb account get changed to neutral and that they read that the account has been changed to be owned by Suchmoon.
@Suchmoon, could you sign a message from a staked address from your suchmoon account to show that you own it?

I don't particularly care either way. You missed the part where I said I'm not going to use the account and Bruno may get it back at some point so it doesn't make any difference to me though it probably does for Bruno. But if you want to keep lying and creating your own reality - be my guest

Quoting for future reference. so you bought an account and now expecting the red tags to be removed just because you bought the account?
Tagged.

That somebody right now is me and I'm quite confident I was dealing with Bruno:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40211259

So from my point of view the timeline is this:

1) Bruno needs money, makes the ill-conceived decision to sell the Gleb Gamow account.
2) Some sales action takes place, including PMs, but I don't believe the account changes hands.
2a) I can't explain the changes in posting style though Bruno is known for elaborate trollery so...
3) Unable to sell the account Bruno enrolls in a sig campaign to make money.
4) PMs get published, Bruno gets red-tagged and loses campaign revenue.
5) I make an offer to prevent the account from falling into malicious hands should Bruno decide to sell it again.
6) Bruno takes me up on my offer and now I temporarily control the account. When/if Bruno gets it back I will state so publicly.

Even if I'm wrong about some part of this, the fact is the account is in my hands. I'm fully aware of the irony given my stance against account sales and sockpuppetry and the aforementioned impossibility of proving account ownership but I've already stated I won't be using it for anything so it will be really easy to see if I'm telling the truth or not.

Hopefully this puts an end to the drama. Given the circumstances it seemed to me like the best way out. I would appreciate if you could remove neg trust as I don't believe Bruno deserves it but that's really up to you.

They can, but they rarely get involved in these matters. Changing IPs isn't always conclusive proof either.

Posting this mainly to keep following the topic
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Can't theymos or Cyrus check the ip addresses? all the previous pms? Find a link between the reported accounts? It is better than speculating whether the account changed hands or not after being already tagged.
(and btw why is Phinnaeus Gage asleep from a +year?)

You still haven't explained this (though I guess there's nothing to explain as everyone can see what went on). Despite your protestations, you tried to sell the account, all the account's details then changed, you staked a new bitcoin address, then for the first time in your history here you try join the highest paid signature campaign on the forum.


He still sounds like someone pretending to be Bruno to me. Any long-time member knows how he acts around here and anyone who's at least half-intelligent could probably parody him successfully to some degree, though I admit he's doing a pretty good job, but something just seems off. Language is still a little different and out of the ordinary for me. Just seems like someone trying too hard to be him.


Well that's certainly why the feedback should stay, but I think it's safe to say the account did change hands and the proof is there that he at least tried to sell it so that warrants the feedback alone.


I have no reason to believe QS does have it, but somebody does (or did).

Whatever, dude.

Meanwhile, can I get some of my green trust back, for I've graduated from scambuster to thwarting an assignation attempt on the President of the United States by a user on this forum --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40216428 (read and follow the link to Meta).

Fuckin amazing that I went from the FBI used to call me for help pertaining to the blockchain before they developed a script to do what I used to do for free in outing out scammers, to earning green trust, to today having that turn red for something I didn't do, to now most likely having a Secret Service agent give me a call. I think it's time for bed, for it's been a long fuckin day.

Bruno

AFAIK global mod can only see reported PM. theymos is the only person who's able to see all PMs.

just wondering, if Hilariousandco can see the PM of  the user, then he can find from the AGLD pms, who bought this account?
Who are  the potential buyers of this account.
Should not we publish and red tag all the potential buyers of  this account, including OP?

Not sure what you mean by come clean, but I am curious as to why you're not tagged yet for trying to purchase accounts.

Meanwhile, I went from green trust to red trust in a matter of hours after being accused of selling the Gleb account which wasn't sold, but is now in another's hands.