If you have any doubt that God is real, take a look at
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395. While this post doesn't explain anything about which religion, if any, has the right idea about God, it does show how easy it is to see that God exists.
That is an awesome explanation. Never came across something like this before...
The points there aren't valid however.
The points at
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395 are entirely valid, in part because scientists are proving them out every day, even though they don't often express them like this.
Machine usage is in progression - That argument would mean that god himself is not god, and has a creator, since his abilities are intelligent as ours. Besides that, nature has evolved it so that we can be complex beings, doesn't mean we were "created".
This idea - that God must or must not have a Creator - is not accurate because God does not necessarily have to be within the universe. Thus, He can have an entirely different set of attributes than the things of the universe, including to literally be eternal, while at the same time not being effected by eternity. The idea that God must or must not have a creator, is simply an idea, not even a theory, has no proof itself, and doesn't show or prove anything about God.
Cause and effect show that even if there is evolution, God has caused it - the Great First Cause.
The nations look for god - Have you ever wondered why the majority of people hundreds to thousands of years ago believed in God(s), this is because they had limited knowledge of themselves and the world around them. As we progress and learn more, we realize that most of the things around us(Even ourselves) were not made by god, but were formed after millions of years, which naturally leads to less people having to believe in God to explain the world around them.
Nobody knows for a fact that millions of years exist. Measurements of geology, and extrapolations of such into the distant past, could in reality have been affected by multitudes of variables for which we have no indicators. For example. Physics constants in the distant past might have acted differently. We simply do not know.
People STILL have "limited knowledge of themselves and the world around" us. We don't know for an absolute fact what will happen in the next second. The fact that our daily activities seem predictable simply shows the stability inherent in the universe. An example of the fact that we don't know even 1 second into the future is Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Many of the people of these cities did not have a clue that in the next second they would be gone, simply vaporized.
The point is that we still need God today, just like all the peoples of ancient times. In fact, we can't get away from needing God. Even the people who are comfortable in their atheism have simply switched their god to themselves, because they still don't know even 1 second into the future what will happen. They are essentially calling themselves god by flippantly suggesting that there is no God.
The belief in deities came about from the fact that earlier humans tried to explain the world around them. Since they didn't know the scientific method back then and hardly even had an understand of things like math, they decided to do what's easiest, and simply state that a higher being created everything and everyone. As we naturally progress, we learn that most/if not all of what we believed was not made by God(s), but was actually made/formed/evolved naturally over long periods of time(Volcanos for example, the Sun, etc).
Because people have been devolving, people of prehistoric times didn't need our form of scientific method. They had the ability to naturally know the processes for all kinds of understandings, understandings that we, in our devolved state, have to use our step-by-step scientific method to figure out.
Evidence of the greatness of our prehistoric ancestors has examples in the construction of their architectural works. For example, if we had to produce the Great Pyramid today, it would be a world-boggling task. And one or more of the pyramids in Bosnia are much larger than the Great Pyramid.
If you look at Graham Hancock's video,
‘Magicians of the Gods’, snapshots of a work in progress -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcPgIphDWGY - you will see that we are finding out that the thing that we call Atlantis was really a gigantic, worldwide trade organization in prehistoric times. It may even have been a one-world government, further advanced than what we have become today. Their science was different, and may have been greater. We are still finding out the details.
We are devolving, not evolving.
Also, the very concept of Infinity is broken in a way. People like to deem some things as being infinite, but the problem is that you can't make the declaration that something is infinite since you haven't reached it's finite limits. How do we know that PI is infinite? We actually don't. The same goes for those that believe in a God. The words that we use to describe "God"'s talents and power don't really exist, so to speak, so the concept of "God" itself is likely an incorrect one.
The fact that we don't know a whole lot of attributes about God, doesn't negate the fact that He exists. The evidences that prove the existence of God found at
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395, don't really have any method for determining if God is a He, or a She, or an It, or Something Else. All they do is show that God exists. And it is all based on the definitions for the words "proof," "evidence," and "God" ... and the fact that our scientists are using the scientific method to prove the whole thing out, on a regular basis, every day, just by doing what they do, even though they don't say it this way.
