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legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1003
June 15, 2012, 04:59:38 PM
the silence is deafening.  i think all the kids got shaken out...

Aww its friday.  They are all just contemplating the massive injection big Ben is about to unload..

If I'm lucky later tonight my big Ben will get some love too..
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
June 15, 2012, 04:55:35 PM
the silence is deafening.  i think all the kids got shaken out...
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
June 15, 2012, 02:50:38 PM
actually, it was an exciting "flat" for me.  all my subscribers know that i saw a flat topped ascending triangle developing months ago which was bullish for me.

I don't like to say the words that is agree with you, which might make you over confidence and you cannot warn us subscribers any danger in the future letter. Wink This is why I like silverox.

actually, i like silverox too.  much better imagery.
donator
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1001
June 15, 2012, 02:19:41 PM
actually, it was an exciting "flat" for me.  all my subscribers know that i saw a flat topped ascending triangle developing months ago which was bullish for me.

I don't like to say the words that is agree with you, which might make you over confidence and you cannot warn us subscribers any danger in the future letter. Wink This is why I like silverox.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1005
June 15, 2012, 02:16:29 PM
the way i see it, these aren't just daily fluctuations.  

Bitcoin has been rising since November and gold falling since last August.

gold has not collapsed i admit (yet).

Then you shouldn't have any trouble seeing the gradual reversal of the downtrend in gold Smiley

The same would apply to the USDX being below 81.75 and dropping. The Fed today (and central banking worldwide) is following and exaggerating trends - exactly the opposite of what it's supposed to be doing: anticipating and compensating. This weekend will be the beginning of officially-resumed monetary intervention through a globally coordinated effort.

Looking at Kitco's gold to currency comparison, only the JPY and USD are stronger relative to gold, and then only on a 60-day basis. Every other time-frame is gold-positive. In fact, Bitcoin is about the only 'currency' that's truly strong against gold at the moment - not even silver has taken off yet. Amusingly enough, papiermarks are gaining relative to gold presumably because of their limited stock and historical significance - not that it takes much for a $2 piece of paper to trade 50-100% higher.







Anything beyond 60-days is green for gold.





I'll make a chart including BTC soon Smiley

if what we're in right now is a flat, then its the most exciting flat i've ever seen. Cheesy

We're such a bunch of Bitcoin junkies Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
June 15, 2012, 02:09:20 PM

Bitcoin has been rising since November and gold falling since last August.


But the three month flat is really boring Grin


if what we're in right now is a flat, then its the most exciting flat i've ever seen. Cheesy

Bad grammar. it should be a "was"

actually, it was an exciting "flat" for me.  all my subscribers know that i saw a flat topped ascending triangle developing months ago which was bullish for me.
donator
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1001
June 15, 2012, 02:06:53 PM

Bitcoin has been rising since November and gold falling since last August.


But the three month flat is really boring Grin


if what we're in right now is a flat, then its the most exciting flat i've ever seen. Cheesy

Bad grammar. it should be a "was"
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
June 15, 2012, 01:54:37 PM

Bitcoin has been rising since November and gold falling since last August.


But the three month flat is really boring Grin

and I think the bitcoin can be flat itself improve something to the world: bitcoin don't need to be a speculate bubble to be used and traded by the community members.

if what we're in right now is a flat, then its the most exciting flat i've ever seen. Cheesy
donator
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1001
June 15, 2012, 01:52:57 PM

Bitcoin has been rising since November and gold falling since last August.


But the three month flat iswas really boring Grin (always bad grammar of mine)

and I think the bitcoin can be flat itself improve something to the world: bitcoin don't need to be a speculate bubble to be used and traded by the community members. Even there had been a 90% loss, the bitcoin can still recover, which will be very convincing for people to trust bitcoin.

Hopefully that we will reach 33$ very soon.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
June 15, 2012, 12:15:04 PM
lets imagine the reverse:

Gold:  +12%

Bitcoin:  -4%

how many of you would be willing to remain silent w/o hootin' and hollerin' in my face in the short term until 2013?

That isn't the issue. It's one thing to get excited about daily changes, and another to say an investment is collapsing or going to the moon because of a few days' movements.

In other words: focusing on technicals while dismissing fundamentals, and conflating the former with the latter.

the way i see it, these aren't just daily fluctuations. 

Bitcoin has been rising since November and gold falling since last August.

gold has not collapsed i admit (yet).
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1005
June 15, 2012, 12:11:17 PM
lets imagine the reverse:

Gold:  +12%

Bitcoin:  -4%

how many of you would be willing to remain silent w/o hootin' and hollerin' in my face in the short term until 2013?

That isn't the issue. It's one thing to get excited about daily changes, and another to say an investment is collapsing or going to the moon because of a few days' movements.

In other words: focusing on technicals while dismissing fundamentals, and conflating the former with the latter.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
June 15, 2012, 12:05:23 PM
lets imagine the reverse:

Gold:  +12%

Bitcoin:  -4%

how many of you would be willing to remain silent w/o hootin' and hollerin' in my face in the short term until 2013?
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
June 15, 2012, 11:56:20 AM
Bitcoin: +12%

Gold: -4%

hey cypher, you've been complaining that people shouldn't take your prediction so damn short-termly... so if things turn around again mid-term, you'll look bad again and then you can't say "relax, this was a long-term outlook" that easily any more, because you will have been bragging on tiny fluctiations yourself with updates every second hour Wink.

I, for myself, wont call this anytime before 2013.



there's some truth to this.  so what do you recommend?  shutting down this thread until 2013?  even then if gold is at $500 and Bitcoin at $1625 there will always be someone who'll say "it isn't over".

it's just that the discrepancy at this stage is so HUGE i don't think you can ignore it.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1005
June 15, 2012, 11:49:33 AM
Bitcoin: +12%
Bitcoin today: up

Gold: -4%
Gold today: flat

FTFY

hey cypher, you've been complaining that people shouldn't take your prediction so damn short-termly... so if things turn around again mid-term, you'll look bad again and then you can't say "relax, this was a long-term outlook" that easily any more, because you will have been bragging on tiny fluctiations yourself with updates every second hour Wink.

I, for myself, wont call this anytime before 2013.

And to think I've been ripped on for looking at monthly, yearly, and even longer-term trends...
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1005
June 15, 2012, 11:46:20 AM
Way to ignore the "outliers" that happen to be high volume on downdrafts.  Roll Eyes

The spikes are statistically insignificant in terms of the sample size; there is more than enough data to show that the trend in volume is down as price declines.

This is similar to 'luck' with regard to mining. We don't get too excited about finding two blocks in rapid succession because statistically they average out.
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
June 15, 2012, 11:42:35 AM
Bitcoin: +12%

Gold: -4%

hey cypher, you've been complaining that people shouldn't take your prediction so damn short-termly... so if things turn around again mid-term, you'll look bad again and then you can't say "relax, this was a long-term outlook" that easily any more, because you will have been bragging on tiny fluctiations yourself with updates every second hour Wink.

I, for myself, wont call this anytime before 2013.

legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
June 15, 2012, 11:37:45 AM
Grin

The range has been narrowing, and in a curved pattern far more likely to form a cup than a drop-off. Volume is staring you in the face as well. Thanks for giving us your money! Smiley



Way to ignore the "outliers" that happen to be high volume on downdrafts.  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
June 15, 2012, 11:35:06 AM
Bitcoin: +12%

Gold: -4%
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 508
Firstbits: 1waspoza
June 15, 2012, 11:27:56 AM
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www.btccharts.com is best charts.

Yup, this one is working.
vip
Activity: 571
Merit: 504
I still <3 u Satoshi
June 15, 2012, 11:27:06 AM
i've lost my connection to mtgoxlive.  must be alot of ppl scrambling to get in.

www.btccharts.com is best charts.
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