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legendary
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June 04, 2012, 11:55:52 AM
actually my subs don't have to vouch for anything.  i wrote everything right here in this thread.  go back and check.

I remember.  No need to check.  Just wondering if you covered yet, as the dollar index is falling..  

Don't get caught with your pants down with QE3, euro gold bonds, and a falling dollar index  all on the table...

for this you need to understand the deflationary argument.  go back and listen to the Turk Prechter interview i put up.

I tried, but it sounded like 2 guys congratulating each other on being great minds who make predictions that don't come true..  



That video was the first time I ever came close to understanding the deflation argument.

Give it another try... its good to understand the other side of the argument even if you disagree with it.

Oh I understand the deflationary argument.  I just don't agree with it.  

Fair enough... the deflation argument was/is really hard for me to wrap my head around.  It's just never a good idea to bet against something you dont understand.

EDIT: listening to it again now actually Wink

Nothing more then there won't be enuf money to go around.  The problem is the Fed can make as much money as it wants....  Hard to have a shortage of something that you can create an infinite amount of..  
Paraphrased quote from the vid
"1. The central banks are working in a credit system.  2. If all there was in currency out there it would be different.  3. The US depends on the integrity of its bonds and assets.  4. This couldn't be solved by printing dollars even if they wanted to"

The part I have real trouble understanding is what happens between step 3 and 4.  Why does a default hurt less then hyperinflation?
legendary
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June 04, 2012, 11:49:28 AM
actually my subs don't have to vouch for anything.  i wrote everything right here in this thread.  go back and check.

I remember.  No need to check.  Just wondering if you covered yet, as the dollar index is falling..  

Don't get caught with your pants down with QE3, euro gold bonds, and a falling dollar index  all on the table...

for this you need to understand the deflationary argument.  go back and listen to the Turk Prechter interview i put up.

I tried, but it sounded like 2 guys congratulating each other on being great minds who make predictions that don't come true..  



That video was the first time I ever came close to understanding the deflation argument.

Give it another try... its good to understand the other side of the argument even if you disagree with it.

Oh I understand the deflationary argument.  I just don't agree with it.  

Fair enough... the deflation argument was/is really hard for me to wrap my head around.  It's just never a good idea to bet against something you dont understand.

EDIT: listening to it again now actually Wink

Nothing more then there won't be enuf money to go around.  The problem is the Fed can make as much money as it wants....  Hard to have a shortage of something that you can create an infinite amount of..  
legendary
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June 04, 2012, 11:48:16 AM
actually my subs don't have to vouch for anything.  i wrote everything right here in this thread.  go back and check.

I remember.  No need to check.  Just wondering if you covered yet, as the dollar index is falling.. 

Don't get caught with your pants down with QE3, euro gold bonds, and a falling dollar index  all on the table...

for this you need to understand the deflationary argument.  go back and listen to the Turk Prechter interview i put up.

I tried, but it sounded like 2 guys congratulating each other on being great minds who make predictions that don't come true.. 



That video was the first time I ever came close to understanding the deflation argument.

Give it another try... its good to understand the other side of the argument even if you disagree with it.

its funny how i can sit here and make the same arguments over and over again like i have since the first gold thread back in August and nobody listens or cares to even understand the theory.  but when someone who has a shred of credibility or who is at least more "visible" on the pundit scene makes the same argument, everyone listens.  oh well.

even some of my own subscribers don't believe me, lol!
legendary
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Merit: 1000
June 04, 2012, 11:46:49 AM
actually my subs don't have to vouch for anything.  i wrote everything right here in this thread.  go back and check.

I remember.  No need to check.  Just wondering if you covered yet, as the dollar index is falling..  

Don't get caught with your pants down with QE3, euro gold bonds, and a falling dollar index  all on the table...

for this you need to understand the deflationary argument.  go back and listen to the Turk Prechter interview i put up.

I tried, but it sounded like 2 guys congratulating each other on being great minds who make predictions that don't come true..  



That video was the first time I ever came close to understanding the deflation argument.

Give it another try... its good to understand the other side of the argument even if you disagree with it.

Oh I understand the delationary argument.  I just don't agree with it.  

Fair enough... the deflation argument was/is really hard for me to wrap my head around.  It's just never a good idea to bet against something you dont understand.

EDIT: listening to it again now actually Wink
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1003
June 04, 2012, 11:45:23 AM
actually my subs don't have to vouch for anything.  i wrote everything right here in this thread.  go back and check.

I remember.  No need to check.  Just wondering if you covered yet, as the dollar index is falling..  

Don't get caught with your pants down with QE3, euro gold bonds, and a falling dollar index  all on the table...

for this you need to understand the deflationary argument.  go back and listen to the Turk Prechter interview i put up.

I tried, but it sounded like 2 guys congratulating each other on being great minds who make predictions that don't come true..  



That video was the first time I ever came close to understanding the deflation argument.

Give it another try... its good to understand the other side of the argument even if you disagree with it.

Oh I understand the deflationary argument.  I just don't agree with it.  
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1000
June 04, 2012, 11:43:29 AM
actually my subs don't have to vouch for anything.  i wrote everything right here in this thread.  go back and check.

I remember.  No need to check.  Just wondering if you covered yet, as the dollar index is falling.. 

Don't get caught with your pants down with QE3, euro gold bonds, and a falling dollar index  all on the table...

for this you need to understand the deflationary argument.  go back and listen to the Turk Prechter interview i put up.

I tried, but it sounded like 2 guys congratulating each other on being great minds who make predictions that don't come true.. 



That video was the first time I ever came close to understanding the deflation argument.

Give it another try... its good to understand the other side of the argument even if you disagree with it.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1003
June 04, 2012, 11:41:07 AM
actually my subs don't have to vouch for anything.  i wrote everything right here in this thread.  go back and check.

I remember.  No need to check.  Just wondering if you covered yet, as the dollar index is falling.. 

Don't get caught with your pants down with QE3, euro gold bonds, and a falling dollar index  all on the table...

for this you need to understand the deflationary argument.  go back and listen to the Turk Prechter interview i put up.

I tried, but it sounded like 2 guys congratulating each other on being great minds who make predictions that don't come true.. 

legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
June 04, 2012, 11:37:12 AM
actually my subs don't have to vouch for anything.  i wrote everything right here in this thread.  go back and check.

I remember.  No need to check.  Just wondering if you covered yet, as the dollar index is falling.. 

Don't get caught with your pants down with QE3, euro gold bonds, and a falling dollar index  all on the table...

for this you need to understand the deflationary argument.  go back and listen to the Turk Prechter interview i put up.
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1000
June 04, 2012, 11:34:26 AM
actually my subs don't have to vouch for anything.  i wrote everything right here in this thread.  go back and check.

I remember.  No need to check.  Just wondering if you covered yet, as the dollar index is falling..  

Don't get caught with your pants down with QE3, euro gold bonds, and a falling dollar index  all on the table...

USDX isnt falling... not until its below $81 would I call it falling.

EDIT $82 is an important level too... just not as important IMO
legendary
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June 04, 2012, 11:27:45 AM
actually my subs don't have to vouch for anything.  i wrote everything right here in this thread.  go back and check.

I remember.  No need to check.  Just wondering if you covered yet, as the dollar index is falling.. 

Don't get caught with your pants down with QE3, euro gold bonds, and a falling dollar index  all on the table...
legendary
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Merit: 1002
June 04, 2012, 11:15:20 AM
actually my subs don't have to vouch for anything.  i wrote everything right here in this thread.  go back and check.
legendary
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June 04, 2012, 11:00:29 AM
That dollar index looks like its a falling..

Did you cover your GLD short at 152 yet cypher??

no.  i told you all already i sold my GDXJ long hedge last Friday during the ramp which had neutralized my GLD, SLV short and ADDED to my gold shorts.  shorted GG, SLW, GLD, SLV, ZSL all on Friday.

my subscribers can vouch for everything i say.
legendary
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June 04, 2012, 10:56:30 AM
That dollar index looks like its a falling..

Did you cover your GLD short at 152 yet cypher??
legendary
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June 04, 2012, 09:49:24 AM
Not getting the follow through I was hoping for in AG yet today  Undecided
legendary
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June 04, 2012, 02:01:00 AM
He picked a specific day? How long ago? Are we sure he was not just trolling?

Both Armstrong and Sinclair have long track records of making macro claims, sticking by them unwaveringly, and seeing them come to pass with impressive accuracy.

Armstrong has numerous documented claims that were proven accurate, including the failure of LTCM. His analyses are generally based on time scales from multiple months to decades, having studied cycles throughout thousands of years of economic history and patterns.

In 2001, Sinclair had called for $1650 to be reached by gold in January 2011, or a significantly higher level several months after that point. The first number didn't hit in January, but August saw $1650 breached and a 15% greater run to just over $1900.

I'd rate Sinclair as my single most trusted source.  I feel that not only does he get a lot right and understands big picture macro factors well, but also that he is a decent person at heart.  I've been listening to him since around the time he first put up jsmineset.

I do feel that Jim has gotten some timings wrong from time to time.  I am also not terribly impressed with his $1645 or whatever it was due to the 'broken clock' principle.  But he made the call like a decade ago and it seemed absurd to almost everyone at that time.  Furthermore it's not far from where this particular correction seemed to hover in the scheme of things, but that could be mere coincidence.

It sounds like it is no bullshit that he was one of the whales in the last run-up 30 years ago, and also like he stepped off the elevator at the top.  I don't know if he was as free with info at that time.  Doubt it.  The world has changed much since then thanks to the net.  Sinclair himself probably has changed some as well.

legendary
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rippleFanatic
June 04, 2012, 01:49:33 AM

Still under $30.  Wow silver so cheap?!  Roll Eyes

All those dollars have to go somewhere.. bring 'em home boyz! Last one in is a rotten egg  Grin
legendary
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June 04, 2012, 12:03:57 AM
He picked a specific day? How long ago? Are we sure he was not just trolling?

Both Armstrong and Sinclair have long track records of making macro claims, sticking by them unwaveringly, and seeing them come to pass with impressive accuracy.

Armstrong has numerous documented claims that were proven accurate, including the failure of LTCM. His analyses are generally based on time scales from multiple months to decades, having studied cycles throughout thousands of years of economic history and patterns.

In 2001, Sinclair had called for $1650 to be reached by gold in January 2011, or a significantly higher level several months after that point. The first number didn't hit in January, but August saw $1650 breached and a 15% greater run to just over $1900.
legendary
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June 03, 2012, 11:44:35 PM
In Borrowing from the Rich, Martin Armstrong projected a major economic event to occur on June 6th, 2012. Jim Sinclair has stated that gold is replacing the US dollar by June 28th.

We're about to see whether those prognostications hold true. My money is on gold. Get your phyzzz.

A few possibilities that might trigger Armstrong's major economic event:
  • A bank holiday in Europe
  • EU gold bond issuance to stem capital outflows
  • US Fed announces some form of monetary inflation
  • COMEX declares cash settlement in lieu of delivery
  • Declaration of emergency by a major nation
  • Break out of war in the Middle East
  • Virulent disease outbreak in a major city
  • "Terror" attack in populated area

There are dozens of others that are easily within the realm of possibility; no need for aliens or a new technology that transmutes lead into gold.
legendary
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June 02, 2012, 08:45:11 PM
Or, they will be forced to cut their losses and it will rocket even higher.

A possibility, but not if a Euro gold bond is approved. That may be a primary reason for such extreme, rapid movement to the short side of the dollar.

Denile is a river in Egypt:

legendary
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June 02, 2012, 07:30:30 PM
Or, they will be forced to cut their losses and it will rocket even higher.

A possibility, but not if a Euro gold bond is approved. That may be a primary reason for such extreme, rapid movement to the short side of the dollar.
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