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Topic: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. - page 1464. (Read 2032274 times)

legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
June 02, 2012, 06:16:12 PM
Another 26% increase in the ICE commercials' USD short position, on top of last week's 71.8% increase - that's more than double the dollar short positioning of the big boys from a scant two weeks ago; sheer madness. The dollar will retest and possibly breach the highly significant 72-73 level soon - later this year if not early 2013.



Or, they will be forced to cut their losses and it will rocket even higher.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1005
June 02, 2012, 06:05:50 PM
Another 26% increase in the ICE commercials' USD short position, on top of last week's 71.8% increase - that's more than double the dollar short positioning of the big boys from a scant two weeks ago; sheer madness. The dollar will retest and possibly breach the highly significant 72-73 level soon - later this year if not early 2013.

legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
June 02, 2012, 04:53:12 PM
Pffff, fine, I'll pick my money up.

I would have picked it up if I had been home earlier.  Care to drop it again?  Tongue
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1311
June 02, 2012, 01:00:17 PM
If your dealing with less then 10k btc, standard client with encryption on a computer deemed "safe"  is probably all right..

The number of peeps who have lost btc to keylogger trojans that stole the encryption key is very small...

I primarily want offline storage in the case of hard drive failure.

Just copy the wallet.dat to a thumbdrive and store it offsite.

Or create a paper wallet, laminate it, and store it offsite in a safe.

or create a paper wallet, memoriz the key and destroy the paper

Store your savings in your head! Cool

Or SHA256 a passphrase to create a private key and don't forget the passphrase.

This is the digital equivalent of just leaving money on the floor, BTW.  Nobody wants to pick it up?

Pffff, fine, I'll pick my money up.
legendary
Activity: 1441
Merit: 1000
Live and enjoy experiments
June 02, 2012, 10:48:00 AM
I used to, but don't really any more.  I don't think there was any specific thing, but more that he has competition who I find more palatable and interesting.  He also failed significantly IMHO wrt the EURO.  I think he's prone to blinder-like things insofar as his negative feelings about one thing translate to myopic support for another.
He is a perma gold bull and got the macro direction right for the last 10+ years. However, he failed on predicting the relative values between dollars and other fiat currency, and timing US vs emerging market.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1311
June 02, 2012, 10:32:45 AM
If your dealing with less then 10k btc, standard client with encryption on a computer deemed "safe"  is probably all right..

The number of peeps who have lost btc to keylogger trojans that stole the encryption key is very small...

I primarily want offline storage in the case of hard drive failure.

Just copy the wallet.dat to a thumbdrive and store it offsite.

Or create a paper wallet, laminate it, and store it offsite in a safe.

or create a paper wallet, memoriz the key and destroy the paper

Store your savings in your head! Cool

Or SHA256 a passphrase to create a private key and don't forget the passphrase.

This is the digital equivalent of just leaving money on the floor, BTW.  Nobody wants to pick it up?
legendary
Activity: 4760
Merit: 1283
June 02, 2012, 10:29:57 AM

I used to, but don't really any more.  I don't think there was any specific thing, but more that he has competition who I find more palatable and interesting.  He also failed significantly IMHO wrt the EURO.  I think he's prone to blinder-like things insofar as his negative feelings about one thing translate to myopic support for another.

legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1004
June 02, 2012, 10:11:21 AM
Who follows Peter Schiff? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3HNIagO9a0
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
June 02, 2012, 03:57:08 AM
Also a very complicated way that requires another computer to be left offline. Is there a real issue with creating a private key and storing it off the computer for a later import in which case the bitcoins can then be sold and the excess bitcoins can be sent to a new private key stored offline? I don't think my computer is vulnerable to any malware and is there even malware that can steal generated keys and send them when the computer is next connected to the internet?

Obviously, offline wallet devices would be nice like the card readers the banks use to protect cardholder data. I know people are working on these.

I need to have the keys on paper as my memory is not reliable.  Wink

Maybe we could program one of these (http://bergcloud.com/littleprinter/) or one of these (http://ekemp.en.alibaba.com/product/565669382-210430359/Programmable_POS_smart_card_reader_with_printer_POS_N8110_.html) or something similar to just generate and print out private key and address (maybe as qr- or other bar-code for easier scanning)



Anyone know of a cheap enough programmable printer device?

Antique ones might also work, but probably harder to code for them (HP-97 as an example here):

legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1005
June 02, 2012, 01:36:30 AM
Prechter clearly explains the deflationary view which is similar to mine.  Being a Goldmoney sponsored event, Prechter goes easy on the anti-gold argument.  He ultimately thinks it goes to $400-500 or so after this deflationary wave completes itself in the next few years.  Only then would it be the time to buy gold/silver as he describes in his newsletters.
When it comes to gold prognostication, there is not better poster-child for FAIL than Prechter.  It amazes me that he has the balls to utter the word at this time.

Yes, on gold he's laughably wrong; at least he's consistent about it and is also a signal for when to sell 10% of my holdings Smiley  On overwhelming deflation, he'll be right... eventually.

Early on, Prechter states that he thinks it would be a different situation if governments were dictatorships. Cue the NDAA and changes to the EU constitution. Dictatorial powers have effectively been granted to the collective leadership at the highest levels in both the EU and US. I'm not as aware of such legislation in Japan or other western nations, though there has been plenty to be concerned about from the bits I've read.

The Greek debt has effectively been defaulted on, but that hasn't eliminated confidence in the Euro as a currency. Paper is still viewed as legitimate when it is the core of the problem. This debt supporting paper currencies is what thins the entire structure until it's too weak to stand on its own. However, even after the collapse is underway, familiarity with fiat can sustain the illusion while gold continues rising.

Banks, like the cliff climbing analogy I used earlier, will keep going until the system is at a point of complete failure before deploying their golden parachute. Once they do that, it means the status quo is being upended. Human collectives are incredibly resilient and stubborn even under extreme duress - what we've seen so far has been getting close to an enormous breaking point, but it's still a ways off.

There are some good things that he points out:

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"You don't want stocks, you don't want bonds..."

"The great buying opportunities have occurred after debt collapses..."

From 18-20 minutes in, what Prechter says is absolutely correct:

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"It [gold] allows a person to escape a debt-based money system. And even though currency values are going to fluctuate wildly, which will appear to be gold fluctuating wildly, but it won't be... as long as you have a pure money option, you could just opt-out and say 'I'm not going to play, and I don't want to be a speculator and try to figure it all out.'"

Beating HFT is a heart-attack waiting to happen. On your scales, playing the turns is great until the rules are changed overnight. There could be another MF Global on Monday, or worse - a bank holiday. Without gold, Bitcoin, or a select few other assets, capital controls could castrate you. Discarding the phyzzz means you have one less option when there are so few to begin with.

In the discussion about GoldMoney, the entire notion of being able to manage your physical metal assets easily and efficiently without having to carry it around touched on the very mechanism by which gold is headed toward reintegration with the monetary system. During that process, gold reasserts its function as money and stands with currencies - the only one that can't be directly mismanaged by authorities, and the only currency that rises when all of the others are falling (notable exceptions being Bitcoin, silver, etc).
legendary
Activity: 4760
Merit: 1283
June 02, 2012, 12:38:20 AM
James Turk interviews Robert Prechter:  Inflation vs. Deflation

Prechter clearly explains the deflationary view which is similar to mine.  Being a Goldmoney sponsored event, Prechter goes easy on the anti-gold argument.  He ultimately thinks it goes to $400-500 or so after this deflationary wave completes itself in the next few years.  Only then would it be the time to buy gold/silver as he describes in his newsletters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=aVm-aVA-kU8

When it comes to gold prognostication, there is not better poster-child for FAIL than Prechter.  It amazes me that he has the balls to utter the word at this time.

legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
June 02, 2012, 12:07:38 AM
James Turk interviews Robert Prechter:  Inflation vs. Deflation

Prechter clearly explains the deflationary view which is similar to mine.  Being a Goldmoney sponsored event, Prechter goes easy on the anti-gold argument.  He ultimately thinks it goes to $400-500 or so after this deflationary wave completes itself in the next few years.  Only then would it be the time to buy gold/silver as he describes in his newsletters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=aVm-aVA-kU8
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1311
June 01, 2012, 08:41:49 PM
If your dealing with less then 10k btc, standard client with encryption on a computer deemed "safe"  is probably all right..

The number of peeps who have lost btc to keylogger trojans that stole the encryption key is very small...

I primarily want offline storage in the case of hard drive failure.

Just copy the wallet.dat to a thumbdrive and store it offsite.

Or create a paper wallet, laminate it, and store it offsite in a safe.

or create a paper wallet, memoriz the key and destroy the paper

Store your savings in your head! Cool

Or SHA256 a passphrase to create a private key and don't forget the passphrase.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1037
Trusted Bitcoiner
June 01, 2012, 08:29:56 PM
If your dealing with less then 10k btc, standard client with encryption on a computer deemed "safe"  is probably all right..

The number of peeps who have lost btc to keylogger trojans that stole the encryption key is very small...

I primarily want offline storage in the case of hard drive failure.

Just copy the wallet.dat to a thumbdrive and store it offsite.

Or create a paper wallet, laminate it, and store it offsite in a safe.

or create a paper wallet, memoriz the key and destroy the paper

Store your savings in your head! Cool
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1311
June 01, 2012, 08:28:18 PM
If your dealing with less then 10k btc, standard client with encryption on a computer deemed "safe"  is probably all right..

The number of peeps who have lost btc to keylogger trojans that stole the encryption key is very small...

I primarily want offline storage in the case of hard drive failure.

Just copy the wallet.dat to a thumbdrive and store it offsite.

Or create a paper wallet, laminate it, and store it offsite in a safe.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1003
June 01, 2012, 06:42:44 PM
If your dealing with less then 10k btc, standard client with encryption on a computer deemed "safe"  is probably all right..

The number of peeps who have lost btc to keylogger trojans that stole the encryption key is very small...

I primarily want offline storage in the case of hard drive failure.

Just copy the wallet.dat to a thumbdrive and store it offsite.
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1004
June 01, 2012, 06:25:00 PM
If your dealing with less then 10k btc, standard client with encryption on a computer deemed "safe"  is probably all right..

The number of peeps who have lost btc to keylogger trojans that stole the encryption key is very small...

I primarily want offline storage in the case of hard drive failure.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1311
June 01, 2012, 06:06:41 PM
Obviously, offline wallet devices would be nice like the card readers the banks use to protect cardholder data. I know people are working on these.

Yep, people are working on those.
hero member
Activity: 809
Merit: 501
Always verify deals with me through my public key!
June 01, 2012, 05:10:33 PM

there is absolutely no such thing in existence...

The power of love alone can carry these things.....
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1003
June 01, 2012, 04:16:14 PM
If your dealing with less then 10k btc, standard client with encryption on a computer deemed "safe"  is probably all right..

The number of peeps who have lost btc to keylogger trojans that stole the encryption key is very small...
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