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legendary
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January 05, 2015, 04:59:45 PM
What can she actually do, though?

she's a woman.  she'll tell you when she's good and ready.

Have you checked?  It's not clear to me just by looking.



lol, as obnoxious and nonsensical as you can get, i've been roflmao with several of your posts this last week.

have you been drinking again?
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 04:57:03 PM
What can she actually do, though?

she's a woman.  she'll tell you when she's good and ready.

Have you checked?  It's not clear to me just by looking.

legendary
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January 05, 2015, 04:54:31 PM
What can she actually do, though?

she's a woman.  she'll tell you when she's good and ready.
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 04:48:04 PM
What can she actually do, though?
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 04:45:47 PM
Rates will have to rise and after a few raises we will finally see more qe and final collapse of trust
The consequences of resuming QE are unaccceptable.

So are the consequences of not resuming QE.

Must be fun to be in any kind of decision-making position at the Federal Reserve right now.

I heard an interesting theory on a podcast the other day which matched my observation. Every Fed head has their crisis with which they are forced to deal with and given that's a fact, they prefer to take it early on in their term so they can clean up before the next head comes in. Nows the time for Janet.
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 04:42:05 PM
Rates will have to rise and after a few raises we will finally see more qe and final collapse of trust
The consequences of resuming QE are unaccceptable.

So are the consequences of not resuming QE.

Must be fun to be in any kind of decision-making position at the Federal Reserve right now.
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 04:41:13 PM
The USD desperately wants to appreciate.

The reason the USD lost so much value over the last century was due, not to base money printing, but to credit expansion, a.k.a debt issuance.

Debt is temporary. It's either repaid, or else defaulted. Either way of resolving debt shrinks the money supply as much as the original issuance expanded it.

As long as the population was growing, and as long as the middle class had positive savings, it was possible to expand credit. Now both conditions are no longer true.

Since it's no longer possible to continue credit expansion, the only way to stop the deflation caused by debt repayment and defaults is to print more base money (QE).

When QE stops, the USD resumes its natural appreciation.

Exactly with an additional subtlety. Not only does the Fed have to print, they have to stimulate confidence because they can never print enough to fill the debt hole  and especially the derivatives mountain. If anything, the last 6 years has shown dubious levels of confidence, if any, along with demonstrably worse real wage growth. The Internet has spawned nearly instantaneous documentation of all the stealing going on.

The last few ramps this year have been nearly vertical short squeezes by the invisible hand which shows increasing desperation, imo. Now is the time to be cautious.  

sidhuajag, I really don't think you're gonna find your masses piling into a final blow off top.
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 04:34:22 PM
The USD desperately wants to appreciate.

The reason the USD lost so much value over the last century was due, not to base money printing, but to credit expansion, a.k.a debt issuance.

Debt is temporary. It's either repaid, or else defaulted. Either way of resolving debt shrinks the money supply as much as the original issuance expanded it.

As long as the population was growing, and as long as the middle class had positive savings, it was possible to expand credit. Now both conditions are no longer true.

Since it's no longer possible to continue credit expansion, the only way to stop the deflation caused by debt repayment and defaults is to print more base money (QE).

When QE stops, the USD resumes its natural appreciation.
Rates will have to rise and after a few raises we will finally see more qe and final collapse of trust
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1013
January 05, 2015, 04:30:10 PM
The USD desperately wants to appreciate.

The reason the USD lost so much value over the last century was due, not to base money printing, but to credit expansion, a.k.a debt issuance.

Debt is temporary. It's either repaid, or else defaulted. Either way of resolving debt shrinks the money supply as much as the original issuance expanded it.

As long as the population was growing, and as long as the middle class had positive savings, it was possible to expand credit. Now both conditions are no longer true.

Since it's no longer possible to continue credit expansion, the only way to stop the deflation caused by debt repayment and defaults is to print more base money (QE).

When QE stops, the USD resumes its natural appreciation.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
January 05, 2015, 04:27:02 PM
oil @ 49.90.  the only thing sweet about sweet crude oil is the sweet smell of Deflation.

The more dollars are printed the more scarce they are :-) ... I don't get it.

Debt implosion> money printing
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 04:17:41 PM
oil @ 49.90.  the only thing sweet about sweet crude oil is the sweet smell of Deflation.

The more dollars are printed the more scarce they are :-) ... I don't get it.
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 04:16:08 PM

This is war on Shale - mainly the US Shale and thus we could see US junk bonds implode.

Could this be the start of the big collapse everyone here is hoping for?

Given the unprecedented nature of that price divergence from its normal relationship with stocks one has to assume something big can happen. Certainly is also possible that tech has rebooted us to permanent nirvana but I tend to doubt it given that nothing got fixed after 2008 and all we did was double the national debt, quintupled the money supply, and let the criminals multiply like viruses.

And by my estimation, Bitcoin has the potential to end all this in a positive manner, so I'm loading up further every chance I get.
legendary
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legendary
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January 05, 2015, 03:48:57 PM
we got a really nice Dow Theory non-confirmation going right now which should widen with time:


nice buy
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 03:24:52 PM
oil @ 49.90.  the only thing sweet about sweet crude oil is the sweet smell of Deflation.
legendary
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Merit: 1002
January 05, 2015, 02:55:28 PM
we got a really nice Dow Theory non-confirmation going right now which should widen with time:

legendary
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January 05, 2015, 02:54:47 PM
If it requires more resources to run a full-node, less full-nodes will be run (all other variables held constant).
This is an effect of shitty network design.

Satoshi was right to realize that a currency should have a limited supply, but that doesn't mean he was right about (or even though about) the economic features of the rest of the software stack.

With a tiny handful of exceptions, all P2P networks are economically broken.

Consider a McDonalds restaurant. The more customers they need to serve, the more resources they require to do so.

Yet in spite of that fact, as the customer demand for McDonald's product increases, so does the number of stores!

Why is that the opposite of what happens with P2P networks? Because in the case of Big Macs, people pay for what they use. This customer action of paying for what they concume means that McDonalds doesn't really need to worry about how it will gather the resources it needs to scale.

The Satoshi Social Contract requires that certain system-level constraints exist (for example, the inflation schedule….we can't have the free-market solve that problem).
That's an objection only brought up by people who don't understand money.

The reason the inflation schedule shouldn't change is the same reason you shouldn't put an anchor on an airplane.

In a way, the free market *does* solve that question though - because people are free to choose whether or not they want to travel in a boat or in an airplane.

Another requirement is that Bitcoin remain decentralized.  Without a constraint on blockchain growth, it seems less likely that this would always be the case.
Let's talk more about this requirement after you produce a workable definition of what "decentralized" means, and the arguments you use to justify your conclusion about how different situations will affect it.
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 02:51:57 PM
He's saying that increasing the full-node bandwidth requirements is a centralizing factor.  It is.  If it requires more resources to run a full-node, less full-nodes will be run (all other variables held constant).

Fewer nodes is not itself the entire problem, it is also where the nodes are. If most of the nodes end up at a few big VPS companies that is not a good outcome, even if the node count increases.

Agreed.  Good point. 

A new transport layer which slices, dices, etc, could mitigate certain of the concerns here.  Something like Oh, I dunno, 'SuperNET'?  I'll expect this to be one of the main sales pitches.

legendary
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Merit: 1002
January 05, 2015, 02:44:40 PM
Dow -331 345 and falling.
legendary
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January 05, 2015, 02:29:44 PM
He's saying that increasing the full-node bandwidth requirements is a centralizing factor.  It is.  If it requires more resources to run a full-node, less full-nodes will be run (all other variables held constant).

Fewer nodes is not itself the entire problem, it is also where the nodes are. If most of the nodes end up at a few big VPS companies that is not a good outcome, even if the node count increases.

Agreed.  Good point. 
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