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legendary
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Gresham's Lawyer
September 28, 2014, 10:04:10 PM
Ideas are ideas. They don't have to be original. In fact they never are. I'm saying that the consumer has no insentive to use bitcoin. That's all. It's a fascinating tool that got caught up in a speculative bubble. The dollar doesn't crash on a daily basis

You may say that consumers have no insentive (sic) to use bitcoin.
Consumers may disagree.



We can debate theories as to why this is true, and what incentives consumers may have, but it is never the less true that they are increasingly using bitcoin transactionally.

Economists tend to work for governments, state universities, or depend on grants from government.  There are few governments that have figured out how great bitcoin and its openness are for their interests, so we should expect them to be behind the curve.  
They will catch up, once they can observe and make theories after the fact.  Give them a few years, the game is changing out from under them.

Obviously no one is worried about economic collapses, bank failures and such.  Certainly not someone who has worked for the government most of his life, handled foreign relations, counter-terrorism intelligence, best selling author, and consults for and with the 5 eyes regularly.

Or can we?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQBia1Mw9Vw

Huh, I guess we can.  Maybe you'd better go let him know how crazy he is.
hero member
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Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
September 28, 2014, 10:03:08 PM
Ideas are ideas. They don't have to be original. In fact they never are. I'm saying that the consumer has no insentive to use bitcoin. That's all. It's a fascinating tool that got caught up in a speculative bubble. The dollar doesn't crash on a daily basis

consumer have no incentives to use gold. yet it has a 5-6 trillion market cap

What's your point?  Gold has a few thousand years worth of history on BTC, but if you're arguing that it's an anachronism, sure.

My point is Bitcoin, fundamentally, challenges gold as a decentralised store of value.

History for that matter, is the only thing Gold has going for it at this point.
sr. member
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September 28, 2014, 09:59:53 PM
Ideas are ideas. They don't have to be original. In fact they never are. I'm saying that the consumer has no insentive to use bitcoin. That's all. It's a fascinating tool that got caught up in a speculative bubble. The dollar doesn't crash on a daily basis

consumer have no incentives to use gold. yet it has a 5-6 trillion market cap

What's your point?  Gold has a few thousand years worth of history on BTC, but if you're arguing that it's an anachronism, sure.
hero member
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Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
September 28, 2014, 09:59:02 PM
Ideas are ideas. They don't have to be original. In fact they never are. I'm saying that the consumer has no insentive to use bitcoin. That's all. It's a fascinating tool that got caught up in a speculative bubble. The dollar doesn't crash on a daily basis

consumer have no incentives to use gold. yet it has a 5-6 trillion market cap

Gold bubble

So I understand you do not value any investement that can be used as an hedge to the fiat economy house of cards ?
legendary
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September 28, 2014, 09:55:41 PM
Ideas are ideas. They don't have to be original. In fact they never are. I'm saying that the consumer has no insentive to use bitcoin. That's all. It's a fascinating tool that got caught up in a speculative bubble. The dollar doesn't crash on a daily basis

consumer have no incentives to use gold. yet it has a 5-6 trillion market cap

Gold bubble
hero member
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Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
September 28, 2014, 09:54:49 PM
Ideas are ideas. They don't have to be original. In fact they never are. I'm saying that the consumer has no insentive to use bitcoin. That's all. It's a fascinating tool that got caught up in a speculative bubble. The dollar doesn't crash on a daily basis

consumer have no incentives to use gold. yet it has a 5-6 trillion market cap
sr. member
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September 28, 2014, 09:53:53 PM
Who are these hired guns working for?

The Gubirmint?
Teh Banksters?
Our Beneficent Reptilian Overlords(long may They reign!)??

At least include some of those cute pictures with your comments like you do in the Wall Observer thread.



K.



aw now, look at the little baby who has to throw out 4 letter words b/c he's angry.

legendary
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September 28, 2014, 09:52:23 PM
You gotta still love gold.

Fuck it, that crashes next
legendary
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September 28, 2014, 09:51:30 PM
You gotta still love gold.
sr. member
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September 28, 2014, 09:49:11 PM
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he/they cut/paste posting the same shit on r/bitcoin so I'm calling troll on this guy (or team?)

seems like last time they used the cult meme talking point ... this time around it is "bitcoin has no perceptible benefits" and "early adopters are MLM (multi-level marketing)"

Who are these hired guns working for?

The Gubirmint?
Teh Banksters?
Our Beneficent Reptilian Overlords(long may They reign!)??

I know right. It makes sense in alts maybe, but here it's just nuts and makes them look defensive and weird

if anyone doubts there was a troll posting on Reddit this morning, take a look at the guys profile.  he'd only had an account for less than an hour and he put up a post that made no sense to the vast majority of reasonable ppl in that thread.  when challenged, he disappeared:

http://www.reddit.com/user/Creepedbtc

and then we got a bunch of other FUD posts soon thereafter.  now these 2 guys, show up in this thread throwing FUD around.  coincidence?

Err...  Yes?  I'm sure there are trolls around, but who would *pay* anyone to do that?
Especially taking into account that I make fun of your wacky ravings absolutely free.
Won't lie, I do get a kick out of laughing at buffoons.  I'm sure I'm not the only one.

you seem to suffer from a serious lack of information and intuition.  plus, simple googling skills would bring up pages of references like this:

http://www.infowars.com/yes-there-are-paid-government-trolls-on-social-media-blogs-forums-and-websites/

btw, i'm honored you read all my posts here in this over 3 yr thread.  i'm glad you're learning something.

Sure, government agents exist, and likely infiltrate forums when need be.
No, d00d going by cypherdoc, the people laughing at you aren't them.
Probably bored middle school kids who couldn't believe their luck for finding such a humorless-yet-lulzy loon in their intertubes!

Now where were we?
legendary
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September 28, 2014, 09:47:28 PM
Err...  Yes?  I'm sure there are trolls around, but who would *pay* anyone to do that?
Especially taking into account that I make fun of your wacky ravings absolutely free.
Won't lie, I do get a kick out of laughing at buffoons.  I'm sure I'm not the only one.

furthermore, straight from the Snowden documents and the GCHQ slides

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/:



but of course, you're smarter than the Internet.

You think I'm a five eyes spy or something lol. Dude: nobody reads this shit.

actually, i don't know and i don't care.

what i do care about are things like the fact you haven't answered Peter R's post to you.  plus the fact that you haven't introduced one single economic or technical argument of your own as to why Bitcoin can't or won't work.
legendary
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September 28, 2014, 09:41:23 PM
Err...  Yes?  I'm sure there are trolls around, but who would *pay* anyone to do that?
Especially taking into account that I make fun of your wacky ravings absolutely free.
Won't lie, I do get a kick out of laughing at buffoons.  I'm sure I'm not the only one.

furthermore, straight from the Snowden documents and the GCHQ slides

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/:



but of course, you're smarter than the Internet.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
September 28, 2014, 09:36:09 PM
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he/they cut/paste posting the same shit on r/bitcoin so I'm calling troll on this guy (or team?)

seems like last time they used the cult meme talking point ... this time around it is "bitcoin has no perceptible benefits" and "early adopters are MLM (multi-level marketing)"

Who are these hired guns working for?

The Gubirmint?
Teh Banksters?
Our Beneficent Reptilian Overlords(long may They reign!)??

I know right. It makes sense in alts maybe, but here it's just nuts and makes them look defensive and weird

if anyone doubts there was a troll posting on Reddit this morning, take a look at the guys profile.  he'd only had an account for less than an hour and he put up a post that made no sense to the vast majority of reasonable ppl in that thread.  when challenged, he disappeared:

http://www.reddit.com/user/Creepedbtc

and then we got a bunch of other FUD posts soon thereafter.  now these 2 guys, show up in this thread throwing FUD around.  coincidence?

Err...  Yes?  I'm sure there are trolls around, but who would *pay* anyone to do that?
Especially taking into account that I make fun of your wacky ravings absolutely free.
Won't lie, I do get a kick out of laughing at buffoons.  I'm sure I'm not the only one.

you seem to suffer from a serious lack of information and intuition.  plus, simple googling skills would bring up pages of references like this:

http://www.infowars.com/yes-there-are-paid-government-trolls-on-social-media-blogs-forums-and-websites/

btw, i'm honored you read all my posts here in this over 3 yr thread.  i'm glad you're learning something.
sr. member
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September 28, 2014, 09:30:54 PM
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he/they cut/paste posting the same shit on r/bitcoin so I'm calling troll on this guy (or team?)

seems like last time they used the cult meme talking point ... this time around it is "bitcoin has no perceptible benefits" and "early adopters are MLM (multi-level marketing)"

Who are these hired guns working for?

The Gubirmint?
Teh Banksters?
Our Beneficent Reptilian Overlords(long may They reign!)??

I know right. It makes sense in alts maybe, but here it's just nuts and makes them look defensive and weird

if anyone doubts there was a troll posting on Reddit this morning, take a look at the guys profile.  he'd only had an account for less than an hour and he put up a post that made no sense to the vast majority of reasonable ppl in that thread.  when challenged, he disappeared:

http://www.reddit.com/user/Creepedbtc

and then we got a bunch of other FUD posts soon thereafter.  now these 2 guys, show up in this thread throwing FUD around.  coincidence?

Err...  Yes?  I'm sure there are trolls around, but who would *pay* anyone to do that?
Especially taking into account that I make fun of your wacky ravings absolutely free.
Won't lie, I do get a kick out of laughing at buffoons.  I'm sure I'm not the only one.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
September 28, 2014, 09:29:15 PM
"Few people buy into the tinfoil-hattery that the USD is about to crash."

Seriously? In 2007 the people who thought the subprime mortgage market was about to blow up were also called tinfoil hat wearers. The USD is subprime x 1M.
sr. member
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September 28, 2014, 09:28:06 PM

That's a typical Chinese commercial mine.


Thanks for posting this, fascinating stuff.  I worked as a commissioning engineer at a large L3 data center awhile back.  The complexity was staggering.  Battery banks, generators, switchgear, evap towers, AHUs, etc.  You could almost knock half the building out with a bomb and the other half would hum along without skipping a beat.  Between two and three sources at each bus, all trickling down to the data center rooms themselves.  Just testing all the systems took months.  Hundreds of millions of dollars from start to finish.

But look at what these Chinese guys are doing.  Open air ventilation, cheap rack mounting, etc.  Budget, budget, budget.  It works.  There's no way to compete with this in "developed countries" (lol) where you can't put up a tool shed without a building permit and environmental impact study.

On another note, it turns out that the problems data centers and miners encounter are exactly the same for large-scale indoor cannabis growers, except for tighter environmental controls in each rooms.  This is becoming a big business in Washington and Colorado.
legendary
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Merit: 1002
September 28, 2014, 09:25:23 PM
Who are these hired guns working for?

The Gubirmint?
Teh Banksters?
Our Beneficent Reptilian Overlords(long may They reign!)??

At least include some of those cute pictures with your comments like you do in the Wall Observer thread.



K.



aw now, look at the little baby who has to throw out 4 letter words b/c he's angry.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 254
September 28, 2014, 09:22:35 PM
Who are these hired guns working for?

The Gubirmint?
Teh Banksters?
Our Beneficent Reptilian Overlords(long may They reign!)??

At least include some of those cute pictures with your comments like you do in the Wall Observer thread.



K.

legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
September 28, 2014, 09:22:18 PM
...
he/they cut/paste posting the same shit on r/bitcoin so I'm calling troll on this guy (or team?)

seems like last time they used the cult meme talking point ... this time around it is "bitcoin has no perceptible benefits" and "early adopters are MLM (multi-level marketing)"

Who are these hired guns working for?

The Gubirmint?
Teh Banksters?
Our Beneficent Reptilian Overlords(long may They reign!)??

I know right. It makes sense in alts maybe, but here it's just nuts and makes them look defensive and weird

if anyone doubts there was a troll posting on Reddit this morning, take a look at the guys profile.  he'd only had an account for less than an hour and he put up a post that made no sense to the vast majority of reasonable ppl in that thread.  when challenged, he disappeared:

http://www.reddit.com/user/Creepedbtc

9 weak, measly FUD posts.

and then we got a bunch of other FUD posts soon thereafter.  now these 2 guys, show up in this thread throwing FUD around.  coincidence?
sr. member
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September 28, 2014, 09:20:05 PM
Don't know what more to say

that's b/c you're incapable of making your own intellectual arguments.

you could just copy and paste more posts.

Those who use the word "intellectual" unironically:  Worship intellect, themselves are anything but.
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