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Topic: GoldMoney [FB post]: James Turk in conversation with Félix Moreno de la Cova - page 2. (Read 14827 times)

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It seems that the survey is public, so if someone wants to give his opinion on the matter:

https://www.research.net/s/goldmoney-survey-2013
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I just received the annual Survey of GoldMoney where the usual things are asked (what can we improve, how much would you recommend us, etc), and guess what? There are some specific questions about Bitcoin:

12. How much are you interested in using Bitcoins for online transactions?

13. Please specify below which Bitcoin functionality you would like to use:
* Use Bitcoin to buy precious metals with GoldMoney
* Use GoldMoney to store Bitcoins in a secure wallet
* Other

(I note that the option "Use precious metals to buy bitcoins" is missing from the choices, though)

This means Bitcoin is very seriously being evaluated by them.
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He is saying corporeal with that accent of his ... he's already outlined some of these ideas in other places ... it's out there.

http://www.runtogold.com/2012/11/why-bitcoin-is-tangible-digging-into-the-guts-of-bitcoin/


Yep. Corporeal.
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He is saying corporeal with that accent (southern?) of his ... he's already outlined some of these ideas in other places ... it's out there.

http://www.runtogold.com/2012/11/why-bitcoin-is-tangible-digging-into-the-guts-of-bitcoin/
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In a victoryIndependence interview, Trace Meyer argues the tangibility of bitcoin referencing the James Turk interview this thread is about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YHVVi7M4jbo#t=779s

what's "kerebral"?  does he mean "cerebral"?  Wink


I re-listened. Although he seems to say something like: "coreporal", I think he means "corporeal" as in "having a touchable physical body"

i think he means "cerebral".  http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cerebral


If you're talking about this part:

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I don't think that it's a prerequisite for something to be coreporal in order for it to be tangible.

then I think "corporeal" makes more sense than "cerebral" in that context, no?


lol.  i think cerebral makes more sense as in "of the mind".  Cheesy

lol. Well, he's arguing that bitcoins are tangible although they don't have a physical body. While I agree that being cerebral is not a prerequisite for tangibility, I think in this case he's arguing that being corporeal isn't a prerequisite for tangibility.

In case you think something that doesn't have a physical body cannot be tangible (which would explain why you think it should be "cerebral"), then you might want to listen again to the argument, because that's exactly the view he's trying to show to be inadequate in the case of Bitcoin.

Bitcoins are tangible Wink
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In a victoryIndependence interview, Trace Meyer argues the tangibility of bitcoin referencing the James Turk interview this thread is about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YHVVi7M4jbo#t=779s

thanks I have added to the list of interviews discussing bitcoin:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/comprehensive-list-of-interviews-about-or-involving-bitcoin-discussion-113361
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In a victoryIndependence interview, Trace Meyer argues the tangibility of bitcoin referencing the James Turk interview this thread is about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YHVVi7M4jbo#t=779s

what's "kerebral"?  does he mean "cerebral"?  Wink


I re-listened. Although he seems to say something like: "coreporal", I think he means "corporeal" as in "having a touchable physical body"

i think he means "cerebral".  http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cerebral


If you're talking about this part:

Quote from: trace mayer
I don't think that it's a prerequisite for something to be coreporal in order for it to be tangible.

then I think "corporeal" makes more sense than "cerebral" in that context, no?


lol.  i think cerebral makes more sense as in "of the mind".  Cheesy
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In a victoryIndependence interview, Trace Meyer argues the tangibility of bitcoin referencing the James Turk interview this thread is about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YHVVi7M4jbo#t=779s

what's "kerebral"?  does he mean "cerebral"?  Wink


I re-listened. Although he seems to say something like: "coreporal", I think he means "corporeal" as in "having a touchable physical body"

i think he means "cerebral".  http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cerebral


If you're talking about this part:

Quote from: trace mayer
I don't think that it's a prerequisite for something to be coreporal in order for it to be tangible.

then I think "corporeal" makes more sense than "cerebral" in that context, no?
legendary
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In a victoryIndependence interview, Trace Meyer argues the tangibility of bitcoin referencing the James Turk interview this thread is about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YHVVi7M4jbo#t=779s

what's "kerebral"?  does he mean "cerebral"?  Wink


I re-listened. Although he seems to say something like: "coreporal", I think he means "corporeal" as in "having a touchable physical body"

i think he means "cerebral".  http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cerebral
donator
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In a victoryIndependence interview, Trace Meyer argues the tangibility of bitcoin referencing the James Turk interview this thread is about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YHVVi7M4jbo#t=779s

what's "kerebral"?  does he mean "cerebral"?  Wink

corporeal?

I re-listened. Although he seems to say something like: "coreporal", I think he means "corporeal" as in "having a touchable physical body"

Sidenote: It's pretty interesting what he has to say about property rights on bitcoin starting around 18:00
legendary
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In a victoryIndependence interview, Trace Meyer argues the tangibility of bitcoin referencing the James Turk interview this thread is about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YHVVi7M4jbo#t=779s

what's "kerebral"?  does he mean "cerebral"?  Wink
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In a victoryIndependence interview, Trace Meyer argues the tangibility of bitcoin referencing the James Turk interview this thread is about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YHVVi7M4jbo#t=779s
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_TpbxORxmnY#t=483s

Brief mention of bitcoin on today's Keiser Report.
James Turk will be soon in the show, and seems like he'll be ask (again) his opinion on bitcoin  Grin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TpbxORxmnY#t=8m20s

seems like they just mention turk and talking about bitcoin, but not in this specific video, please help if i mistaken
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But I absolutely agree that PM's and Bitcoin complement each other very well. I'd certainly recommend holding both. The main disadvantage I see with Bitcoin is the possibility that it "breaks." But if it doesn't, I think in the long-term it will steal a lot of market share from PM's. Of course, if and when that happens, your BTC purchasing power will be up so dramatically, you probably won't be too concerned about whatever hit you've taken in PM's.

I would love it if Bitcoin stole even the tinyest barely noticeable amount of 'market share' from PM's.  Among the reasons, it would make me insanely wealthy personally.  That is a part of the reason I speculate in it.

Another reason I prefer Bitcoin is that gold is very difficult to shake out of the hands of those who hold it, and most of these are hands that I would love to see working in the poor house.  With Bitcoin, OTOH, if a significant fraction of the user-base were at a significant enough disadvantage complements of the owners of the currency base, they could simply upgrade their software and switch to a more promising solution.  So there is pressure on the holders of the currency to ensure that it is relatively useable and useful to the general population.

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Why should we apologize for the fact that Bitcoin is intangible (in the sense that it's non-corporeal)? That's a huge advantage. Until we invent cheap and reliable teleportation, you can't spend corporeal things at a distance. Sorry goldbugs, but gold is not particularly well-suited for the information age. Corporealness was never important in and of itself. It was simply the price you had to pay to eliminate counter-party risk. Until now. Gold's only real advantage over Bitcoin is a few thousand years headstart. But I think you'll be surprised how quickly Bitcoin makes up the distance.

What percentage of gold has been stolen?  Bitcoin in it's short life?  Seems to me that a fair amount of BTC has been 'teleported' across distance right into some thief's pocket.  And that this scenario is as 'reliable' as clockwork.  'Cheap' for the thief also since it is unusual for them to be caught and fairly unheard of for them to be punished.  So you see, everything has it's advantages and dis-advantages.

Most of the thinkers (or most who impress me much at any rate) seem to recognize that Bitcoin and PM's have some significant potential to complement one another.
Most of the people who have had their coins stolen were not in possession of them at the time. If you ask someone to hold onto your gold bullion, that also increases your risk of theft. (And I'd imagine that a HUGE amount of gold has been stolen over the years.) And the Bitcoin thefts are also largely a product of the newness of the technology and thus the naivete of its users. But lessons are being learned. But I absolutely agree that PM's and Bitcoin complement each other very well. I'd certainly recommend holding both. The main disadvantage I see with Bitcoin is the possibility that it "breaks." But if it doesn't, I think in the long-term it will steal a lot of market share from PM's. Of course, if and when that happens, your BTC purchasing power will be up so dramatically, you probably won't be too concerned about whatever hit you've taken in PM's.
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Why should we apologize for the fact that Bitcoin is intangible (in the sense that it's non-corporeal)? That's a huge advantage. Until we invent cheap and reliable teleportation, you can't spend corporeal things at a distance. Sorry goldbugs, but gold is not particularly well-suited for the information age. Corporealness was never important in and of itself. It was simply the price you had to pay to eliminate counter-party risk. Until now. Gold's only real advantage over Bitcoin is a few thousand years headstart. But I think you'll be surprised how quickly Bitcoin makes up the distance.

What percentage of gold has been stolen?  Bitcoin in it's short life?  Seems to me that a fair amount of BTC has been 'teleported' across distance right into some thief's pocket.  And that this scenario is as 'reliable' as clockwork.  'Cheap' for the thief also since it is unusual for them to be caught and fairly unheard of for them to be punished.  So you see, everything has it's advantages and dis-advantages.

Most of the thinkers (or most who impress me much at any rate) seem to recognize that Bitcoin and PM's have some significant potential to complement one another.

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Why should we apologize for the fact that Bitcoin is intangible (in the sense that it's non-corporeal)? That's a huge advantage. Until we invent cheap and reliable teleportation, you can't spend corporeal things at a distance. Sorry goldbugs, but gold is not particularly well-suited for the information age. Corporealness was never important in and of itself. It was simply the price you had to pay to eliminate counter-party risk. Until now. Gold's only real advantage over Bitcoin is a few thousand years headstart. But I think you'll be surprised how quickly Bitcoin makes up the distance.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_TpbxORxmnY#t=483s

Brief mention of bitcoin on today's Keiser Report.
James Turk will be soon in the show, and seems like he'll be ask (again) his opinion on bitcoin  Grin
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everyday i'm putting up requests for Trace Mayer in that days video comments.  Cheesy
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for goldmoney videos?


no, for getting Trace on the show.

what show

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everyday i'm putting up requests for Trace Mayer in that days video comments.  Cheesy
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for goldmoney videos?


no, for getting Trace on the show.

what show
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