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It will depend on the people if the will follow the minimum observe protocol definitely the virus could not be widely spread. But if people will be more relax while government trying to open the economy then another virus break out  going to happen. However, I am thinking a different thing is that the virus had already spread to everyone and that only affected are those people with low immune system against the virus and most us did not feel anything after getting the virus because the virus is not tha fatal. Still, being careful even others are not is a good way to prevent getting infected with the virus.

Not just the people themselves.

There are still a lot of people that don't know how this virus is being transmitted from people to people the reason why they also need the help of the government. The government should not just depend on what the people need, they should also look at what will happen and what is needed to be done in the coming weeks and months. Right now, we are having this worst time that is like a nightmare. People are dying, people needed to be saved, I feel so helpless to see how bad this situation in Cagayan, Philippines right now. People needed help.
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The pandemic had been causing too much damage already so opening the economy and talking about damage does not really matters now. What matters the most is that how one can survive if economy will not be open especially the third world country like us. The government could no longer support on continuing to give the financial support.

Well, the government needs human resources and most of the resources can't work from home. We just have to accept this reality that this is the new normal and we have to live with the virus till a vaccine comes out. There's no way we can just lock ourselves for indefinite period of time as this will not only be bad for economy but for psychological health of people as well!
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It's not a rumor rather incomplete information because I have read on multiple occasions that the antibodies remain for at least 5-7 months which means it can last longer or it might not.

Unless Lancet or some of the other renowned medical journals confirm this, I am not going to give it much importance. All sort of rumors are circulating around related to the pandemic. The biggest problem has been the incompetent leadership of the World Health Organization (WHO), which is to be blamed for the rapid spread of the virus around the globe. Antibodies may, or may not remain after 6 months. But as of now, these are just rumors.
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It will depend on the people if the will follow the minimum observe protocol definitely the virus could not be widely spread. But if people will be more relax while government trying to open the economy then another virus break out  going to happen. However, I am thinking a different thing is that the virus had already spread to everyone and that only affected are those people with low immune system against the virus and most us did not feel anything after getting the virus because the virus is not tha fatal. Still, being careful even others are not is a good way to prevent getting infected with the virus.
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The thing is that the economy need to open up, Covid is real but the agent of doom in the mass media keep fueling this. I believe in the model employed in Sweden, let immunity herd come into play and keep the elderly people in safe home, stop listening to these people and look at the data yourself you will know the truth
Same here, the economy isn't stable since the virus comes out. The pandemic is already affected in a second phase which is a neg sign for us again. But we have to cope up with the situation and do something for the economy. Otherwise, the country will face a big reserve problem very soon if it exists more. So the economy should be opened slowly by maintaining social distance obviously.
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The thing is that the economy need to open up, Covid is real but the agent of doom in the mass media keep fueling this. I believe in the model employed in Sweden, let immunity herd come into play and keep the elderly people in safe home, stop listening to these people and look at the data yourself you will know the truth
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It is already worse, we are already not doing great and this "reopen" strategy was never something that intended to fix the pandemic anyway. The whole idea was the fact that economy can't handle people staying at home forever, we needed people go outside to work but not just go out to work, we should also go out to eat and drink and basically spend our money outside in order to keep the economy going.

If this brought in a lot more pandemic with it, that would be bad but as long as it was "not too bad", governments decided to take that risk. Nowadays you see people outside and numbers are increasing but it is not big enough that hospitals are filled with sick people who do not get better, that was the initial stage, nowadays people spend their time at home for 2 weeks and recover, that is what government was counting on.
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The fact is that, to save the economy from crash the ease has to come up, we all know with the ways it is going that the pandemic has not totally ended before the ease, but consider education in not well developed countries who cannot afford the full online schooling,how will the teachers survive and also other no work no pay organizations.
Completely agreed. It is like if you close out everything people will suffer with unemployment but if you allow movement and open shops, schools, etc then the risk is even bigger. The government is criticized when they force shutdowns and when they slowly open the lockdowns then people again complain.

It is quite simple, rich guys will complain about opening economy because they have enough to sit in their house and enjoy while poor people will criticize lockdowns as they need work to earn and feed their family.

If the antibodies would last for just 6 months, then we would be having thousands (if not tens of thousands) of cases, especially from the countries which were hit earlier, such as China, Italy and Iran.
It's not a rumor rather incomplete information because I have read on multiple occasions that the antibodies remain for at least 5-7 months which means it can last longer or it might not.
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the good news is "LOCKDOWN" the second time is not as strict as the first time (during the "PANDEMIC" peak).  France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Ireland, England, and Austria have officially started the second "LOCKDOWN", schools are still open but only bars and restaurants are closed.  it could be said that the second "LOCKDOWN" this time will not have much of an impact on the economy (like the first "LOCKDOWN") so there's nothing to worry about..

European countries only have themselves to blame for this. They allowed the pubs and nightclubs to be opened and young people were roaming here and there without any sort of protective equipment. If they had adopted stricter measures, then this second wave could have avoided. None of the other geographies are witnessing this "second wave".
Initially it was USA that never gave importance to the safety measures. Trump government was much focused on the economic growth, and the lack of precaution by the early days gave them a big blow. Further they started to blame China, that they're the real cause for the prevailing situation. Now the same is happening with European nations, government needs to act fast to get out of the worst days.
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There is no worse problem even government slowly open the economy as long as the people will follow the health protocol to avoid spreading of virus and not to make pandemic worst again. We need to live and the economy need to recover even slowly that's why cooperation of everyone is highly needed this time that government decide to open the economy slowly.
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the good news is "LOCKDOWN" the second time is not as strict as the first time (during the "PANDEMIC" peak).  France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Ireland, England, and Austria have officially started the second "LOCKDOWN", schools are still open but only bars and restaurants are closed.  it could be said that the second "LOCKDOWN" this time will not have much of an impact on the economy (like the first "LOCKDOWN") so there's nothing to worry about..

European countries only have themselves to blame for this. They allowed the pubs and nightclubs to be opened and young people were roaming here and there without any sort of protective equipment. If they had adopted stricter measures, then this second wave could have avoided. None of the other geographies are witnessing this "second wave".
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lucky for those countries that opening now and they only need to do is help each other and start a new life slowly and make it better day by day.

But what about those countries that having a "second lockdown"?

Now they cannot move forward because of this situation and risking their starting future to be reset again.
the good news is "LOCKDOWN" the second time is not as strict as the first time (during the "PANDEMIC" peak).  France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Ireland, England, and Austria have officially started the second "LOCKDOWN", schools are still open but only bars and restaurants are closed.  it could be said that the second "LOCKDOWN" this time will not have much of an impact on the economy (like the first "LOCKDOWN") so there's nothing to worry about..
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The pandemic had been causing too much damage already so opening the economy and talking about damage does not really matters now. What matters the most is that how one can survive if economy will not be open especially the third world country like us. The government could no longer support on continuing to give the financial support.
lucky for those countries that opening now and they only need to do is help each other and start a new life slowly and make it better day by day.

But what about those countries that having a "second lockdown"?

Now they cannot move forward because of this situation and risking their starting future to be reset again.
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The pandemic situation of a country may improve or worsen due to opening of economy. The question is very subjective as it varies depending on some factors which are:

1. Government imposing the safety precautions to its citizens.
2. Proper budget allocation of the national and local government.
3. Strength of the healthcare system of a country.
4. Discipline of the citizens.


Government imposing the safety precautions to its citizens


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The government must be strict in implementing the safety protocols most especially now that they have opened the economy. Impunity must have no place especially now that we’re in the middle of a pandemic. Unfortunately, here in our country, impunity is very evident. Most of those who are in government position and who holds power can usually escape the punishment for breaking the safety measures. It seems like the laws and regulations doesn’t apply to these kind of people, hence endangering the lives of many. It’s saddening because it feels like the law is only applicable to the poor. The laws regarding social distancing protocol, no mass gathering, and complete quarantine and isolation to those who undergone swab test and confirmed positive seems applicable to the common people only. If they would continue to be blind to those violators that hold power, pandemic situation would only go worse as the time pass by.


Proper budget allocation of national and local government


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The national and local government must have a proper budget allotment for the programs to combat covid-19 pandemic. During this trying times, the authorities must prioritize the needs of the people and not just some extravagant projects that could make their name famous or clean for the upcoming elections. If there are projects that has been on the line already, they always have the power to REALLOCATE so that the people can benefit from the taxes they’ve paid for. Now that majority have lost their jobs and still weren’t able to return to their work, the projects prioritized should be a band-aid or long-term solution that could help these struggling people. It really provokes me whenever I see projects not really important and beneficial during this pandemic. Those projects CAN ALWAYS WAIT after the pandemic, but they still chose to spend the tax of the people instead of addressing their concerns. This leads to worsening the pandemic since these people will do whatever it takes even if it means to cost their health just to bring food on their tables.


Strength of healthcare of a country


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Now that the higher ups decided to open the economy, it would be best if the healthcare system of a country has a strong foundation. The medical field should be given great support because they’re at the front lines of this dangerous battle. Enough Proper Protective Equipment, justifiable compensation, enough vitamins and nutritious meals, and respect must be given to them. Without them, we can’t really survive this pandemic. That’s why the things they need should be given without them having to ask and beg. If the healthcare of a country is not strong enough, it would really worsen the pandemic. Without the doctors, nurses, med techs, and scientists, covid-19 cases would continuously spike. Their jobs are really challenging, hence we should give proper treatment to them as well.


Discipline of the citizens


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Return of operations of businesses and establishments means more people roaming around the streets. This is where the discipline of the citizens would greatly matter. By simply following safety measures such as social distancing, wearing face masks and face shield, no eating, drinking, and talking on public transportation, would help a lot in preventing spread of covid-19 virus. By following the guidelines given by the authorities such as going on public markets on your place scheduled date, avoiding going out because of unnecessary things could definitely help in minimizing the spread of the virus. On the other hand, if the citizens exhibits lack of discipline, pandemic would totally worsen.

To be able to combat the covid-19 pandemic, it needs collaborative effort. If one fails to function accordingly, it will have a chain reaction. The opening of economy of a country doesn’t necessarily mean it can worsen the state of pandemic condition in a country.

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The fact is that, to save the economy from crash the ease has to come up, we all know with the ways it is going that the pandemic has not totally ended before the ease, but consider education in not well developed countries who cannot afford the full online schooling,how will the teachers survive and also other no work no pay organizations. Unfortunately, it has actually made the pandemic worse now in countries like u.k,france. Another lockdown has been declared.
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The pandemic had been causing too much damage already so opening the economy and talking about damage does not really matters now. What matters the most is that how one can survive if economy will not be open especially the third world country like us. The government could no longer support on continuing to give the financial support.
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And also, scientists have found that antibodies in the human body that fight infection last no more than 6 months. Thus, those 90% of people who have not only innate immunity, but may also consist of the number of people who have had the virus in a mild form, are still carriers of this virus and carry a certain risk for other people. Even if a person recovers, after six months he is again at risk.

These are just rumors. This "six months expiry" for antibodies is not yet proven. As of now, only 2-3 cases of Coronavirus re-infection have been reported. If the antibodies would last for just 6 months, then we would be having thousands (if not tens of thousands) of cases, especially from the countries which were hit earlier, such as China, Italy and Iran.

According to a conspiracy theory I read on Reddi, Corona Virus is an economical virus and will be very difficult to kill because they can be modified against any vaccine.
so it makes no sense to rely on vaccines to solve all the problems. What we should develop is the awareness of people going out into the activity. Masks, hand sanitizers should be produced with the highest possible quality in order to reverse the epidemic.
If vaccines were to be relied on, the general economy might have been in crisis before the epidemic could be pushed back. Smiley
It's a normal thing that virus modifies within time. They are constantly evolving as are our natural antibodies.
Due to this fact our bodies can create their own defenses against coronavirus, as it's already happening to most people in the world. Thinking this way a relaxed quarantine at this moment isn't so bad, as people have already been exposed to the virus for enough time to create their self defenses and of course, money is needed to survive, so the economy can't stop and people need to work.

However hygiene pactices are always a must with or without coronavirus and some activities listed on this thread such as prostitution aren't adviced as people are exposed to even worse diseases than corona.
Knowledge will only become power if we know how to use it, we can prevent and reverse the growth of covid infection through proper hygiene and following the health protocols given by our government but there is a bad thing for me and it is the people who do not believe to the covid. They keep saying that it is scam and they do not have time to wear face masks. It is so sad seeing a lot of people are becoming infected because of the others who are not following strict health protocols. In our city, wearing masks are mandatory wherein you will be punished if the local enforcers saw you without wearing a masks. For me it is a good step by our local government unit because they really treat the virus as a threat.

The transportation system are already opening in my country and the people who are outside are keep increasing as the economy are opening again. By wearing face masks and face shield, there is a 99% chance that we cannot be infected by covid 19. Actually, I always have alcohol in my pocket whenever I go outside because I can be vulnerable to the virus because it is invisible and that is the main thing why it is really hard to fight the covid.
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It's a normal thing that virus modifies within time. They are constantly evolving as are our natural antibodies.
Due to this fact our bodies can create their own defenses against coronavirus, as it's already happening to most people in the world. Thinking this way a relaxed quarantine at this moment isn't so bad, as people have already been exposed to the virus for enough time to create their self defenses and of course, money is needed to survive, so the economy can't stop and people need to work.
However hygiene pactices are always a must with or without coronavirus and some activities listed on this thread such as prostitution aren't adviced as people are exposed to even worse diseases than corona.
Undoubtedly, after some time, the coronavirus will be on a par with seasonal acute respiratory infections and flu and can be easily carried by the majority of people. But this is a question of the future, and now the incidence of coronavirus is growing, so it is not surprising that countries are again beginning to tighten quarantine measures. I also don't like excessive quarantine measures that kill the economy, but the coronavirus infection is killing people and I'm not so sure that enough of the human population in countries has been infected with the coronavirus to develop collective immunity. Therefore, the government's measures and motives for the actions taken are also clear.
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And also, scientists have found that antibodies in the human body that fight infection last no more than 6 months. Thus, those 90% of people who have not only innate immunity, but may also consist of the number of people who have had the virus in a mild form, are still carriers of this virus and carry a certain risk for other people. Even if a person recovers, after six months he is again at risk.

These are just rumors. This "six months expiry" for antibodies is not yet proven. As of now, only 2-3 cases of Coronavirus re-infection have been reported. If the antibodies would last for just 6 months, then we would be having thousands (if not tens of thousands) of cases, especially from the countries which were hit earlier, such as China, Italy and Iran.

According to a conspiracy theory I read on Reddi, Corona Virus is an economical virus and will be very difficult to kill because they can be modified against any vaccine.
so it makes no sense to rely on vaccines to solve all the problems. What we should develop is the awareness of people going out into the activity. Masks, hand sanitizers should be produced with the highest possible quality in order to reverse the epidemic.
If vaccines were to be relied on, the general economy might have been in crisis before the epidemic could be pushed back. Smiley
It's a normal thing that virus modifies within time. They are constantly evolving as are our natural antibodies.
Due to this fact our bodies can create their own defenses against coronavirus, as it's already happening to most people in the world. Thinking this way a relaxed quarantine at this moment isn't so bad, as people have already been exposed to the virus for enough time to create their self defenses and of course, money is needed to survive, so the economy can't stop and people need to work.

However hygiene pactices are always a must with or without coronavirus and some activities listed on this thread such as prostitution aren't adviced as people are exposed to even worse diseases than corona.
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And also, scientists have found that antibodies in the human body that fight infection last no more than 6 months. Thus, those 90% of people who have not only innate immunity, but may also consist of the number of people who have had the virus in a mild form, are still carriers of this virus and carry a certain risk for other people. Even if a person recovers, after six months he is again at risk.

These are just rumors. This "six months expiry" for antibodies is not yet proven. As of now, only 2-3 cases of Coronavirus re-infection have been reported. If the antibodies would last for just 6 months, then we would be having thousands (if not tens of thousands) of cases, especially from the countries which were hit earlier, such as China, Italy and Iran.

According to a conspiracy theory I read on Reddi, Corona Virus is an economical virus and will be very difficult to kill because they can be modified against any vaccine.
so it makes no sense to rely on vaccines to solve all the problems. What we should develop is the awareness of people going out into the activity. Masks, hand sanitizers should be produced with the highest possible quality in order to reverse the epidemic.
If vaccines were to be relied on, the general economy might have been in crisis before the epidemic could be pushed back. Smiley
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