It has definitely made the pandemic situation worse. Transmission is more likely increasing with people going out into the streets than with them staying at home. But I guess there must be much worse scenarios than just the increase of infection. The economy has to recover somehow. It might cause bigger problems if the strict protocols will go on indefinitely. So there are things to be taken care of than just curbing transmission.
Somehow, the government will have to strike a balance between taking care of the health of its people at the same time keeping the economy afloat. Both are of great importance.
Topic: Government slowly open the economy, will it make the pandemic worst? - page 8. (Read 1313 times)
October 18, 2020, 08:09:54 PM
October 18, 2020, 08:09:35 PM
that sabong and sex stuff are illegal all the time and they are being raded by the polic even before that theres no pandemic or covid but now that we are now in this situation , those activities are now even more illegal . its not just they are bad but they also make the spread of the virus and other diseases more easy. transportation , public market and online shopping were restricted before when the pandemic is in its early phases but now that most country are now returning to normal , its okay to open these three because these were useful and can help boost the recovery of a country .
October 18, 2020, 07:21:28 PM
It will sure to boost the economy back but will also lead to more cases of Covid. In this new normal covid will jbe present and people needs to do be very careful and as much as possible limit their self to go outside since the government will now care more in economy due to no more budget to sustain ther peoples living especially in 3rd world countries, those who have low immune system and are not doing any social distancing or ways to protect themselves will be very much affected by these. This will be a self assessment better stay at home only if there is no essential things to do outside. Take care of yourself is hard to detect where you will get the virus now that enforcers will not be strict now regarding covid.
The problem with the current set up is that the enforcement behind the protocol in order to prevent the virus from spreading is very weak or the enforcement is selective on who is violating the protocol. The injustice in the system is what makes the system faulty, if there is no prejudice in enforcement then the system will surely work. Even if all in favors in the system enforcement, the factor that humans unconsciously will interact physically towards one another will result in increase in infected regardless of how strict the enforcement is. Not to mention the crowding when in a public transport and public places which should be a no-brainer for a government that listens to health and scientific experts. 
October 18, 2020, 06:42:17 PM
It will sure to boost the economy back but will also lead to more cases of Covid. In this new normal covid will jbe present and people needs to do be very careful and as much as possible limit their self to go outside since the government will now care more in economy due to no more budget to sustain ther peoples living especially in 3rd world countries, those who have low immune system and are not doing any social distancing or ways to protect themselves will be very much affected by these. This will be a self assessment better stay at home only if there is no essential things to do outside. Take care of yourself is hard to detect where you will get the virus now that enforcers will not be strict now regarding covid.
October 18, 2020, 06:32:00 PM
We can't avoid holding on to things in public places when we go outside or even holding cash and that's already a risk, but I think this part is already for us to be cautious and to remember to always disinfect or wash our hands. We can't stop everyone from working just because there is a pandemic, it's not only for the economy but for each individual.
Governments slowly opening the economy are already a risk because it's something that we didn't expect, but with proper guidance or handling of the government, I think it can help to lessen the number of cases because other countries were able to do it. It's just sad that our country isn't that competent with this issue that opening the economy gives us more worry about our health.
Governments slowly opening the economy are already a risk because it's something that we didn't expect, but with proper guidance or handling of the government, I think it can help to lessen the number of cases because other countries were able to do it. It's just sad that our country isn't that competent with this issue that opening the economy gives us more worry about our health.
those situations are unavoidable and it doesnt mean that you need to lock yourself in your home to avoid encountering those situations. as the govt is slowly opening the economy, expect that those situations will happen. now, it is up to the individual how he will follow safety protocols and avoid crowded places. sometimes there are really hard headed persons that will go to crowded places even if they have no business to transact with. so i call that stupidity!
you can even read article giving tips when youre in crowded places.
https://www.internationalsos.com/insights/top-tips-when-in-crowded-places
October 18, 2020, 10:11:24 AM
This has been already discussed since we have the pandemic kicked it. And this really a challenge that all of us are not ready for this kind of pandemic.
We deeply understand that we had the keep ourselves safe against the virus. But if we are not able to feed ourselves by protecting it, how would we do the only thing expected to us?
To survive, the government did everything to protect the citizens in each country's affected. However, on the other hand, the economy is going down.
The decision they made was very crucial but for now, it is the wisest. So now, the new normal adoption should be a part of global economic recovery, something just like a bandage of the wound that must be there in order to heal while the vaccine wasn't yet found.
We deeply understand that we had the keep ourselves safe against the virus. But if we are not able to feed ourselves by protecting it, how would we do the only thing expected to us?
To survive, the government did everything to protect the citizens in each country's affected. However, on the other hand, the economy is going down.
The decision they made was very crucial but for now, it is the wisest. So now, the new normal adoption should be a part of global economic recovery, something just like a bandage of the wound that must be there in order to heal while the vaccine wasn't yet found.
The question is that are we really going to improve the economy?
Or make covid19 transmission worst of their decision?
Yes we are, we need to survive and we need to improve and recover our economy, no matter there is a covid19 possible transmission our economy should continue in generating revenue for the survival of economic growth and the human race against this virus. Or make covid19 transmission worst of their decision?
October 18, 2020, 09:10:12 AM
We can't avoid holding on to things in public places when we go outside or even holding cash and that's already a risk, but I think this part is already for us to be cautious and to remember to always disinfect or wash our hands. We can't stop everyone from working just because there is a pandemic, it's not only for the economy but for each individual.
Governments slowly opening the economy are already a risk because it's something that we didn't expect, but with proper guidance or handling of the government, I think it can help to lessen the number of cases because other countries were able to do it. It's just sad that our country isn't that competent with this issue that opening the economy gives us more worry about our health.
Governments slowly opening the economy are already a risk because it's something that we didn't expect, but with proper guidance or handling of the government, I think it can help to lessen the number of cases because other countries were able to do it. It's just sad that our country isn't that competent with this issue that opening the economy gives us more worry about our health.
October 18, 2020, 08:48:48 AM
Opening the economy of a country is always the best choice to let the country's people lives and sustain all necessary things they need amid the pandemic especially to those third world countries. But it should be with strong and strict protocols to follow. Countries with undeciplined people are always the worst thing a head of state could handle with the situation like this since all actions should start from the government to its people to cooperate. Now if these people always are revolutionary state/mode then a high numbers of case is always the headline news.
October 18, 2020, 08:08:36 AM
Depend in which country and how the people of those country will go towards the policy and protocol each cities applied.
Like in my country there are some cities that has hard headed people so the pandemic continues to grow in their places.
while in the city in which i am living the cases of covid is continuously dropping and we are looking for being a covid free next year after the release of the anti virus.
Let us remember that this is not about the government or the people but it is the combination of them both to successfully fight and beat this COVID19 .
Are they hard headed when they know they and their family is finding living difficult in the pandemic period or they want to survive in this period, many countries put covid-19 lockdown on citizen when they have no plans for how they would sustain the period, what you would get is disobedience.Like in my country there are some cities that has hard headed people so the pandemic continues to grow in their places.
while in the city in which i am living the cases of covid is continuously dropping and we are looking for being a covid free next year after the release of the anti virus.
Let us remember that this is not about the government or the people but it is the combination of them both to successfully fight and beat this COVID19 .
To fight covid-19 is a collective effort but as it is government are failing the people and many are ready to risk corona virus for their daily living.
October 18, 2020, 07:52:45 AM
Country which slowly opening back their economy will prone to get a second wave of virus infection, but since we already suffer this for such a long time for sure the health official gather a experience on what to do to make a person safety and what are the things needed to prepare to have a healthy environment.
Honestly we shouldn't be afraid about this disease and if we live on our fear for sure we will not get snything and might we will starve if another lockdown will be implemented.
Honestly we shouldn't be afraid about this disease and if we live on our fear for sure we will not get snything and might we will starve if another lockdown will be implemented.
October 18, 2020, 06:50:34 AM
Depend in which country and how the people of those country will go towards the policy and protocol each cities applied.
Like in my country there are some cities that has hard headed people so the pandemic continues to grow in their places.
while in the city in which i am living the cases of covid is continuously dropping and we are looking for being a covid free next year after the release of the anti virus.
Let us remember that this is not about the government or the people but it is the combination of them both to successfully fight and beat this COVID19 .
Like in my country there are some cities that has hard headed people so the pandemic continues to grow in their places.
while in the city in which i am living the cases of covid is continuously dropping and we are looking for being a covid free next year after the release of the anti virus.
Let us remember that this is not about the government or the people but it is the combination of them both to successfully fight and beat this COVID19 .
October 18, 2020, 06:30:00 AM
There is a chance that the condition will be worst if that's the case. Just think of those countries who experienced a 'secon wave"+' of this pandemic by doing so. Your country might have no other choice but to do so. Not all countries can cover the loss of not allowing operations of companies and other establishments due to this pandemic, for a long period of time. Think of an individual having a savings. Once his source of income is gone, his savings will eventually be used in order to cover his "needs" and once his savings get close to its very last penny, ofcourse he again needs a source of income. To put this analogy in this case, the source of income is the continuation of the operation of the economy. That is philippines i guess, which we all know is not a big country. They might have lost of their grasp to how will they cope up with their debt which saddens me.
October 18, 2020, 06:16:06 AM
It is more like a gamble if I would be asked, in the side of the government from doing so. They would choose to allow activities that fuel the economy because according to them, they do not have the power to still cover the debt without giving permission to the businesses to operate. In my point of view, there is a mismanage with regards to the taxes in some countries which makes them incapable of coping up with such pandemic. Why? Other countries do manage to do so. Is it because those countries are bigger? Well, I would say no. I do live in the same country by the way. Philippines has the highest income tax in South East Asia and that is enough to validate this claim. Corruption is worse in our country.
Going back, to answer the question, yes it would make the pandemic worse. People are havibg no discipline because they are more concerned with this thing called "freedom" not knowing how responsibilities work.
Going back, to answer the question, yes it would make the pandemic worse. People are havibg no discipline because they are more concerned with this thing called "freedom" not knowing how responsibilities work.
October 18, 2020, 06:12:53 AM
We can slowly come back the economy but how long it takes to be back to normal , no one can answer you directly.
We need to be much more discipline this time if we don't want another lockdown happen in our city. we need to accept that covid is already there and we need to live with it to continue are living and to feed our families. The government is also have a problem with money they can't help poor anymore since they already use a lot of money having that long lockdown .
For the questions if it will be worsen it depend on the people you need to protect your self to be able to protect your family while working .you need to always follow the protocol if you don't want to be sick.
We need to be much more discipline this time if we don't want another lockdown happen in our city. we need to accept that covid is already there and we need to live with it to continue are living and to feed our families. The government is also have a problem with money they can't help poor anymore since they already use a lot of money having that long lockdown .
For the questions if it will be worsen it depend on the people you need to protect your self to be able to protect your family while working .you need to always follow the protocol if you don't want to be sick.
October 18, 2020, 04:55:03 AM
I want to discuss you guys about the recent happening that takes in our place.
Pandemic really had been a problem that frustrates all especially to the worker that has a scheme of no work no pay policy. The lock down had made of some establishment to close temporarily except for those that offer essential products. This means that there are many employee now are getting hungry due to no work no pay policy and they all depend on the government financial support. It made worst when rumors says that the financial support had not reach to them or just being kept by the local officials for their own interest.
As the government trying to improve the economy here in our place, It decided to lift the lock down and impose more relaxed quarantine protocols. This now allow other establishment to open. Yes, many are happy about it and that they can go back to work to earn money to buy for the basic needs expenses and that even includes some medications and maintenance for some health conditions.
As seen in the public areas the number of crowd has been arising especially during rush hour like in the public market, malls and other crowded areas. The transportation are now slowly going back to normal just with those materials and other health protocols mandated by the government in the transportation to prevent the spread of the covid19. So, in the process there are many problems that has been observed and hopefully will be notice to imposed the rules and regulations to stop or minimize the spread of covid19 virus.
So far this has been a problem I observe.
First Public Land Transportation problem
* The use of fiat currency to pay the public transportation like coins which is metal and high rate of virus to stay longer in that objects. Paper money also could be a medium of transmission for covid19.
* The distance of provided seats between the commuters does not meet the observance of social distancing protocol.
* Covid19 is airborne and some buses especially the aircon bus had no proper ventilation and air flows just go round and round inside the buses.
* Contact tracing sheets were not strictly observed and done
* Some commuters not wearing face mask properly.
Second, Small Businesses are operating even without securing permits.
* Automated Tubig Machine (ATM) - Coin operated water dispenser are visible everywhere and are operating and people tend to use it due to its cheaper price compared to bottled water.
* Some resorts are also open despite of no securing permit from agencies concern regarding in the implementation of the minimum health standard protocols.
* Fitness gymnasium are also open and more easily for virus to transmit due to the fact that the equipment are there and that anyone could use it.
* Bars are discreetly open usually those establishment that are far from the reach of the concern authorities even if they know that it is not allowed for them.
* Buwangan, or cock fighting are now being endorse by the authority to open. Probably the officials sitting in the position heading the authority were likely missed visiting cockpit or arena.
Third, The Public Market
* the capacity of public market does not compensate the number of vendors plus the people that went to market especially rush hours. Social distancing is not really observe.
* Still fiat currency is being use as a medium of exchange and this is not really ideal for now with pandemic.
* Vendors not properly wearing face mask and face mask are not prescribe usually are just made a piece of cloth.
* Disinfection does not observe in the market at the end of the day.
Fourth, Sex social workers still rampant and was not contained.
After a long working days usually we had to find our stress reliever and this open the doors for the sex worker to offer their service for pleasure and fun.
* Gays, Female, Male are discreetly offering their service and still operate through online transaction then meet up for deal to take place.
* Spa and massage with extra service offer they tend to attempt in making you go for sex and eventually they will ask for it in return to increase the pay for the extra service.
* Beerhouse usually has GRO but they too are sex workers. Some of them are teens or are minors.
Fifth, Online businesses had been also a way through transmission of Covid19.
* Barter community had been violating the government mandate especially during the lock down or quarantine days.
* Online shoppe become rampant and are also violating the rules of community quarantine.
Understanding the importance of observing the minimum health requirement protocol is very important. Now that the community quarantine are at ease we are now heading to open up the economy. This can be a trial and error from the leaders that are showing. If not then they have good reason why they slowly open the economy back. I am not against this move but at least they will make sure that community needs to follow the protocol and will imposed sanctions to those who will not going to follow the mandate of the government. So?
The question is that are we really going to improve the economy?
Or make covid19 transmission worst of their decision?
Edit: Pics for attention only CTTO
Reference: Google pictures
Pandemic really had been a problem that frustrates all especially to the worker that has a scheme of no work no pay policy. The lock down had made of some establishment to close temporarily except for those that offer essential products. This means that there are many employee now are getting hungry due to no work no pay policy and they all depend on the government financial support. It made worst when rumors says that the financial support had not reach to them or just being kept by the local officials for their own interest.
As the government trying to improve the economy here in our place, It decided to lift the lock down and impose more relaxed quarantine protocols. This now allow other establishment to open. Yes, many are happy about it and that they can go back to work to earn money to buy for the basic needs expenses and that even includes some medications and maintenance for some health conditions.
As seen in the public areas the number of crowd has been arising especially during rush hour like in the public market, malls and other crowded areas. The transportation are now slowly going back to normal just with those materials and other health protocols mandated by the government in the transportation to prevent the spread of the covid19. So, in the process there are many problems that has been observed and hopefully will be notice to imposed the rules and regulations to stop or minimize the spread of covid19 virus.
So far this has been a problem I observe.
First Public Land Transportation problem
* The use of fiat currency to pay the public transportation like coins which is metal and high rate of virus to stay longer in that objects. Paper money also could be a medium of transmission for covid19.
* The distance of provided seats between the commuters does not meet the observance of social distancing protocol.
* Covid19 is airborne and some buses especially the aircon bus had no proper ventilation and air flows just go round and round inside the buses.
* Contact tracing sheets were not strictly observed and done
* Some commuters not wearing face mask properly.
Second, Small Businesses are operating even without securing permits.
* Automated Tubig Machine (ATM) - Coin operated water dispenser are visible everywhere and are operating and people tend to use it due to its cheaper price compared to bottled water.
* Some resorts are also open despite of no securing permit from agencies concern regarding in the implementation of the minimum health standard protocols.
* Fitness gymnasium are also open and more easily for virus to transmit due to the fact that the equipment are there and that anyone could use it.
* Bars are discreetly open usually those establishment that are far from the reach of the concern authorities even if they know that it is not allowed for them.
* Buwangan, or cock fighting are now being endorse by the authority to open. Probably the officials sitting in the position heading the authority were likely missed visiting cockpit or arena.
Third, The Public Market
* the capacity of public market does not compensate the number of vendors plus the people that went to market especially rush hours. Social distancing is not really observe.
* Still fiat currency is being use as a medium of exchange and this is not really ideal for now with pandemic.
* Vendors not properly wearing face mask and face mask are not prescribe usually are just made a piece of cloth.
* Disinfection does not observe in the market at the end of the day.
Fourth, Sex social workers still rampant and was not contained.
After a long working days usually we had to find our stress reliever and this open the doors for the sex worker to offer their service for pleasure and fun.
* Gays, Female, Male are discreetly offering their service and still operate through online transaction then meet up for deal to take place.
* Spa and massage with extra service offer they tend to attempt in making you go for sex and eventually they will ask for it in return to increase the pay for the extra service.
* Beerhouse usually has GRO but they too are sex workers. Some of them are teens or are minors.
Fifth, Online businesses had been also a way through transmission of Covid19.
* Barter community had been violating the government mandate especially during the lock down or quarantine days.
* Online shoppe become rampant and are also violating the rules of community quarantine.
Understanding the importance of observing the minimum health requirement protocol is very important. Now that the community quarantine are at ease we are now heading to open up the economy. This can be a trial and error from the leaders that are showing. If not then they have good reason why they slowly open the economy back. I am not against this move but at least they will make sure that community needs to follow the protocol and will imposed sanctions to those who will not going to follow the mandate of the government. So?
The question is that are we really going to improve the economy?
Or make covid19 transmission worst of their decision?
Edit: Pics for attention only CTTO
Reference: Google pictures
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