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Quote from: wxxyrqa on November 09, 2020, 10:33:53 AM

And also, scientists have found that antibodies in the human body that fight infection last no more than 6 months. Thus, those 90% of people who have not only innate immunity, but may also consist of the number of people who have had the virus in a mild form, are still carriers of this virus and carry a certain risk for other people. Even if a person recovers, after six months he is again at risk.

These are just rumors. This "six months expiry" for antibodies is not yet proven. As of now, only 2-3 cases of Coronavirus re-infection have been reported. If the antibodies would last for just 6 months, then we would be having thousands (if not tens of thousands) of cases, especially from the countries which were hit earlier, such as China, Italy and Iran.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on November 08, 2020, 11:16:26 AM

Quote from: oHnK on November 08, 2020, 10:36:49 AM

This situation really be on the horns of a dilemma. Reopening the economy is a move that everyone wants but it will increase the number of infected cases. On the other hand, if you want to reduce cases of covid-19 infection, the government must lock down and worsen the country's economic conditions. Nobody expects both. However, that is the reality we must accept. New normal is an issue that must be accepted by the public, ready to survive side by side with the virus to survive hunger. Like living in the walking dead series. Silent and uninspected but starving to death or struggling but zombies are ready to pounce.

In countries such as India and Brazil, sero-sample surveys have found that in some of the cities up to 60% of the population is having antibodies to COVID 19. That means that these people are unlikely to get infected again in the near future. So even if the government opens the economy, the spike in the number of new infections is going to be quite limited.

And also, scientists have found that antibodies in the human body that fight infection last no more than 6 months. Thus, those 90% of people who have not only innate immunity, but may also consist of the number of people who have had the virus in a mild form, are still carriers of this virus and carry a certain risk for other people. Even if a person recovers, after six months he is again at risk.

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Quote from: JuSayCo on November 09, 2020, 01:23:56 AM

It seems that the several months we just stayed at home will be wasted. I'm afraid that this will only make the people at risk and the pandemic become more worst.

Everything needs to be planned ahead whether the government decided to open the economy they are implementing precautions
and they'll make it sure that it's not going to be as a whole, some are going to open to provide business and to provide jobs for
those starving stomach.

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However, I do understand why the Government decided to open up now the economy and loosen out the restrictions in any borders.
Because, we are running out of resources and they can't give aid to each people. If we remained locked, poverty and hunger will gets higher in a certain country.

That's the first thing that the government needs to address, they have to work on how to continue surviving, it's ain't going to work to
continue providing the needs of all the people within their jurisdiction, government funding even if they'll divert everything won't last long
to provide to every citizen inside the country.

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So, maybe we will just follow the safety protocols and keep the proper hygiene and cleanliness to our homes and our community so we can avoid the virus while getting along amidst the crisis.

It's the best thing to do and help not just the government but also ourselves to prevent being infected by this virus, anyway everyone
wants to survive.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on November 08, 2020, 11:16:26 AM

Quote from: oHnK on November 08, 2020, 10:36:49 AM

This situation really be on the horns of a dilemma. Reopening the economy is a move that everyone wants but it will increase the number of infected cases. On the other hand, if you want to reduce cases of covid-19 infection, the government must lock down and worsen the country's economic conditions. Nobody expects both. However, that is the reality we must accept. New normal is an issue that must be accepted by the public, ready to survive side by side with the virus to survive hunger. Like living in the walking dead series. Silent and uninspected but starving to death or struggling but zombies are ready to pounce.

In countries such as India and Brazil, sero-sample surveys have found that in some of the cities up to 60% of the population is having antibodies to COVID 19. That means that these people are unlikely to get infected again in the near future. So even if the government opens the economy, the spike in the number of new infections is going to be quite limited.

May I see an article related to that? I just heard about it. But if that is true, it is good news for all of us. There is evidence that humans can have covid-19 antibodies. So that we are not too anxious to stay active on the condition that we maintain health protocols. But I also believe, one day we will all be immune to this pandemic, just waiting for the time. Because this pandemic is not like HIV, which even today there is no cure.

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Apparently Gen Z, Mlllenials and even some Gen X have forgotten what virii can do to life. Measles, Rubella, Polio and smallpox were all nasty little things that killed many more people than covid has thus far. The only difference is humans had put that thought out of their mind relegating the possibility of some wild ebola virus that causes people to bleed from their eyes. A much more indolent virus apparently wreaks a lot more havoc. It's recency bias. Modern life of the last 30 years just got very cushy for mankind - this event put some in reality check mode.

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Quote from: ReiMomo on November 07, 2020, 03:43:50 PM

Let's stop the panic with this pandemic and look at how you survived today without having it even though you know to yourself that you have encountered a lot of risky people who might be carrying the virus already.

I guess the covid is just a made-up virus to slow down the global economy and to have what they needed to do. If you're going to observe, no one in your family has experienced the covid. And that's actually not an accident.

I agree with you that we dont need to be panic. However, there are people who are stuck in the middle of the pandemic and they have lost their love ones. And nobody can calm down during that situation. And you have to sympathize with them. They deserve to feel sad, panic or even angry

I live in a country where the virus is successfully contained and I feel lucky about it. And even if this is a made-up disease, many countries do not aware of the dangerous situation and push the whole country to under the crisis. In the West, government does try their best to reduce the impact of Covid-19, but if the people remain incorporate, there will always people who infected because of not wearing mask, staying in public places for too long, etc.

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It seems that the several months we just stayed at home will be wasted. I'm afraid that this will only make the people at risk and the pandemic become more worst. However, I do understand why the Government decided to open up now the economy and loosen out the restrictions in any borders. Because, we are running out of resources and they can't give aid to each people. If we remained locked, poverty and hunger will gets higher in a certain country. So, maybe we will just follow the safety protocols and keep the proper hygiene and cleanliness to our homes and our community so we can avoid the virus while getting along amidst the crisis.

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Quote from: oHnK on November 08, 2020, 10:36:49 AM

This situation really be on the horns of a dilemma. Reopening the economy is a move that everyone wants but it will increase the number of infected cases. On the other hand, if you want to reduce cases of covid-19 infection, the government must lock down and worsen the country's economic conditions. Nobody expects both. However, that is the reality we must accept. New normal is an issue that must be accepted by the public, ready to survive side by side with the virus to survive hunger. Like living in the walking dead series. Silent and uninspected but starving to death or struggling but zombies are ready to pounce.

In countries such as India and Brazil, sero-sample surveys have found that in some of the cities up to 60% of the population is having antibodies to COVID 19. That means that these people are unlikely to get infected again in the near future. So even if the government opens the economy, the spike in the number of new infections is going to be quite limited.

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Quote from: Swopon on November 07, 2020, 08:16:10 PM

The government is trying to reopen the economy in a limited portion because of running the economy in a way that can be beneficial for all. Because of the lockdown, many countries reverse getting decreased and if it continue then they will face trouble in near future. That's why the government is trying to reopen but where it reopened it, it makes the people in danger with the affect of the virus.

No government generally now will try to impose lockdown till the situation is under control. As in last 7-9 months economic activity has already taken a huge toll, business unit have shut, lost of jobs, people are becoming poor and many do not have any money left. Thus, only by opening up of economic they can start to get back thing on track to an extend now and with precautionary measures people should be working.

This situation really be on the horns of a dilemma. Reopening the economy is a move that everyone wants but it will increase the number of infected cases. On the other hand, if you want to reduce cases of covid-19 infection, the government must lock down and worsen the country's economic conditions. Nobody expects both. However, that is the reality we must accept. New normal is an issue that must be accepted by the public, ready to survive side by side with the virus to survive hunger. Like living in the walking dead series. Silent and uninspected but starving to death or struggling but zombies are ready to pounce.

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Quote from: Swopon on November 07, 2020, 08:16:10 PM

The government is trying to reopen the economy in a limited portion because of running the economy in a way that can be beneficial for all. Because of the lockdown, many countries reverse getting decreased and if it continue then they will face trouble in near future. That's why the government is trying to reopen but where it reopened it, it makes the people in danger with the affect of the virus.

Most of the people need jobs to survive because in some cases, COVID-19 isn't the only one they're fighting, some of us are also fighting for survival. Reopening the economy means opening job opportunities and it'll benefit those who're in the cycle. The lockdown supposed to be a time for making a health crisis solution for the pandemic, so they can implement those protocols to lessen the increase of the cases in the country when the lockdown was lifted. We all know that lockdown can destroy the economy, we should be functioning even there's a pandemic or else we will be in a huge debt.

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No government generally now will try to impose lockdown till the situation is under control. As in last 7-9 months economic activity has already taken a huge toll, business unit have shut, lost of jobs, people are becoming poor and many do not have any money left. Thus, only by opening up of economic they can start to get back thing on track to an extend now and with precautionary measures people should be working.

Yes the second phase already started and people are getting attacked virus again. So it is very much shocking to live a life with all the members of the family as well as the community for the government. Economy will not stable for this. So it's challenging.

Quote from: Janation on November 08, 2020, 01:32:44 AM

Not just for the economy of the country but for the people that actually need a source of income. They can't just stay in lockdown forever unless they have a source of money that they can use without the normal continuation of the economy. The reason they are always implementing the protocol so that people could get back their jobs and having safety measures on stopping the virus from spreading.

Money is nothing, on the other hand, money is everything. So we need money in all the steps which me made and will make in future. Having safety measures, people are getting attacked, so it is not actually safe for us. We are in big trouble in all sides.

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Quote from: Swopon on November 07, 2020, 08:16:10 PM

The government is trying to reopen the economy in a limited portion because of running the economy in a way that can be beneficial for all. Because of the lockdown, many countries reverse getting decreased and if it continue then they will face trouble in near future. That's why the government is trying to reopen but where it reopened it, it makes the people in danger with the affect of the virus.

It is dangerous but it is important.

Not just for the economy of the country but for the people that actually need a source of income. They can't just stay in lockdown forever unless they have a source of money that they can use without the normal continuation of the economy. The reason they are always implementing the protocol so that people could get back their jobs and having safety measures on stopping the virus from spreading.

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Many people never still believe covid-19 is real in the country. Many see it as a scam, that government is using it to kill the country economy and looting the government money.
Many people really follow the rules government has put in place during pandemic to prevent the virus in the country. Many information is still on going that the virus is still on
ground that the government should still add second lockdown to make sure the virus is dead in the country before people can resume their activities fulling in the country.
The government will not announce second lockdown just because what people really pass through during the first lockdown that caused so many people lose their life and also caused strong hardship in the country. I think second lockdown will make things worst the way it is now in the country. With this vaccine the government have provide will really help the citizens to resume work and other business activities in the country.

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The government is trying to reopen the economy in a limited portion because of running the economy in a way that can be beneficial for all. Because of the lockdown, many countries reverse getting decreased and if it continue then they will face trouble in near future. That's why the government is trying to reopen but where it reopened it, it makes the people in danger with the affect of the virus.

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Governments try to reopen their economies because their population will be more impoverished if they do not. The blockade brings more unemployment and famine, it is true that the pandemic is a risk to life. But the population must learn carefully to live with the virus until we have a cure.
The biosecurity protocols must continue to minimize possible infections, we have no other choice.

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Quote from: ReiMomo on November 07, 2020, 03:43:50 PM

Let's stop the panic with this pandemic and look at how you survived today without having it even though you know to yourself that you have encountered a lot of risky people who might be carrying the virus already.

I guess the covid is just a made-up virus to slow down the global economy and to have what they needed to do. If you're going to observe, no one in your family has experienced the covid. And that's actually not an accident.

You sir are funny. While hundreds of thousands have already died and millions have been left lifeless or jobless becauseof the virus you here are one of those people who still believes the virus is made up. You have to thank the people you encounter for being considerate enough following social distancing protocols despite you being a prick about it. DYOR, and for God's sake, wear a mask. This pandemic is not made up, the virus destroyed almost every country's economy. Be considerate enough in helping your country rebuild itself by following rules.

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Let's stop the panic with this pandemic and look at how you survived today without having it even though you know to yourself that you have encountered a lot of risky people who might be carrying the virus already.

I guess the covid is just a made-up virus to slow down the global economy and to have what they needed to do. If you're going to observe, no one in your family has experienced the covid. And that's actually not an accident.

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Quote from: Swopon on October 19, 2020, 01:01:59 PM

Yes, I think it will be responsible for making the situation worst than before. I am from an Asian country and our government is not taking enough restrictions for the pandemic rather than it should be needed to be more strict so that it can not spread rapidly.

After phase one, the government decided to open the economy, and the consequence of the result is getting dangerous. So it can be said the for this reason the situation will make the pandemic worst.

I think what the government is doing is a way to save the country's economy. if we are constantly trapped in a state where consciousness has to start with oneself. Regardless of the spread of Covid 19 or not, the wheels of the economy must work. there is always a change for the better. if we let it stay bad, it's because we ourselves don't want change.
Isn't it that apart from the government reopening the economy, legal protocols have been implemented and even new regulations need to be obeyed. Regarding dangerous or not, I think it returns to the belief of society in general.

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Quote from: TitanGEL on October 28, 2020, 06:23:03 AM

Quote from: shield132 on October 27, 2020, 03:48:29 AM

It's bright that opening of economics has made and is making pandemic worse but there is no other choice. Please, don't argue with me that our health is more important than economics because your health directly depends on your economic, without good economics, it will fail too.
People have to follow standards very carefully and mustn't be careless when it comes to our and someone's health. To be fair, I think numbers are inflated and real death cases caused by covid isn't that high. At the same time, governments mustn't panic people as it will make the situation worse. Place effect has a huge impact on people and society, good placebo effect is important and at the same time when they panic people, some people are so afraid of it that request to be placed in a hospital when they see that they just choke or sneeze. Because of limited resources, it's making it hard to find places for those who really need treatment.

The economy in every nation will die if they will not open it but there is a consequences on it and it is the high percentage where the virus can infect more a lot of people. A lot of people lose their job because of the pandemic and it is so sad that there are many people out there who are experiencing poverty wherein they are not earning money because of the current pandemic. Right now, the businesses in my community is starting to bounce back after the huge losses that they incur because of the current pandemic. Our government is doing their best to maintain and prevent the spread of the virus.

I think we individuals have important responsibility in our society, we should follow the health protocols given by the government especially today wherein many economies our now open. Our public transportation is now opening but still there are vehicles that are not yet allowed to operate due to the strict protocol to prevent the virus to spread. I think what my countries lack is the hospital even though the active cases in my country are continuing to decrease.

I agree with you. The economy of every country will die if lockdown continues. Corporates have already fired many of their employees in order to show profits in their balance sheets, small business can't afford to pay their employees without a regular income. Job class people and labourers are most affected by corona pandemic. Lockdown will worsen the people financial condition and this will increase crime, suicide and depression.
People have to understand and follow the safety measures in order to save their family and world economy. We all have to bear the risk of going out at work but can avoid unnecessary roaming. If once the world economy came to knees, it will be almost impossible to come back to track for the next 3-4 years.

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Quote from: sana54210 on October 24, 2020, 03:07:32 AM

Corporations have control of the media, the products the advertisements and many other stuff that could change the views of the public, they do not even have to actually do anything that supports a politician, they could just support what that politician supports and get out of it without any problems while still moving the country any direction they want, left or right.

This means if a politician does whatever companies wants him to do, that politician could get a fair help from the companies and that is why I honestly think they do not care about people as much as they care about the companies. This is literally the only reason why we are back on the streets again, there should be a lockdown no doubt yet at the same time government wants us to make profit for the corporate lords.

This is a good point after all we know for a fact that politicians tend to listen to the owners of corporations which for the most part are their friends or even supported their campaigns, however it is not as if people do not want to get out and be free again, people were very unhappy because of the lockdown we went through, not only they had to remain on their homes for most of the day but they lost their jobs and even the entertainment was scarce so I while the will of those business owners played a role I think the will of the people played a role as well despite the fact that the pandemic is still in place.

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