Topic: Government slowly open the economy, will it make the pandemic worst? - page 7. (Read 1318 times)

Most countries need to slowly open their economy to survive. We all know that the economic situation got worse because of the pandemic so the government is trying to recover from it that they're even taking all the risks. Things will still depend on how people will keep themselves safe by taking the precautionary measures seriously and continuously because facing the second wave isn't impossible since most of us could get exposed to the virus. It's how we discipline ourselves after all.

From the photos, I conclude that in this particular case it may be Asia, I must admit that I am not familiar with the situation in that part of the world with COVID-19. What is currently happening in Europe is an incredibly strong start of the second wave which is very likely largely the result of very mild measures that were in place during the summer when the virus had a rather weak effect but indisputably infected an incredible number of people. With the arrival of colder weather, the virus strengthens and spreads with incredible speed, and the consequences are much more severe (many more people need medical care and many more dies).

Some people call this a calculated risk, because they believe that the damage will be much greater (economically) if strict measures are in place (which is true), and on the other hand accept that returning to normal will mean the spread of the virus among the population. On the example of the EU, we can see what is currently happening, the incredible numbers of infected, already heavily burdened health systems and rethinking of lockdown again.

There is no ideal solution here, you live as much as normal for 3 months, and then it comes back to you like a boomerang and throws you back into the harsh reality. 

The world's economies have been hit hard by the epidemic so the governments of each country are slowly opening up everything to improve their economies and work to increase health. If one does not adhere to the security measures the epidemic will take a worse shape which can take a terrible form from the beginning. The biggest solution is to keep the social distance market until the vaccine is available. Personal protection of employees is being given priority in the office-court during coronation these costs are being added to the economy of staying well.

The government has no choice but to gradually open establishments and public transportation, because many people are already hungry because of the lockdown duration, and it has been half a year since people have been unemployed.The government cannot support all our needs and they cannot let people starve to death. Nevertheless, every one should have a self discipline to protect themselves from getting infected of virus
 

Indeed. Opening the economy will finish a country's problem during the pandemic because people will get back to their jobs, and productivity will continue. If they didn't open the economy and get people back to their jobs, the economy would definitely continue to fall, that many people will suffer. But employees and other people who use public transportation should still be careful because the virus is continuously spreading.

Opening of the economy will indeed increase the number of cases of the corona but there is no other choice but to save the economy than keeping everyone inside their houses. This is the only solution since even if people will be ordered to stay on their home, they will only suffer from hunger and might die due to that reason.

I think opening of the economy is really needed. Now, I'm all for preventing the spread of virus, but closing the economy for so long will do more harm than good! Many has lost their jobs. Only for a virus if they close entire economy for indefinite period of time, more people would die without income than due to the virus. And I believe, herd immunity is also very much needed to contain the virus. We can't lock ourselves up for so long and pray a vaccine or a miracle will come to eradicate the virus. We have to live with it!

If regulations and restrictions are strict enough, a country can raise their economy back to normal without being contaminated by the virus. However, it is a hard process, especially most of the country still have many victims. My government have done a great job keeping the society from the infection. Therefore, currently, our economy is meliorated. There is still a risk of being affected again and quarantine is necessary in order to keep the virus low, but we are joyful with the contemporary situation.

It is kinda both sides of a coin. Risks and chances are both existed while opening back firms. The government will have the highest responsible for everything. If your leaders are good, your country will definitely rise

In my opinion opening the economy even further right now will just increase the corona cases very fast. The problem we are facing right now is the second wave of the pandemic. In Europe for example every country is reporting rising corona cases and we can't really open the economy anymore. On the otherside we also can't have another lockdown this year. All the countries here are experiencing negative growth in GDP. We just can't afford another closing down of the economy. It's very hard to balance off human lifes vs the economy, but we need to find a mix.

I believe the news now is that health authorities in Sweden are poised to start introducing local lockdowns to stop a surge in new cases, although these will not be legally enforceable. It will be interesting to watch how they will do it considering they were one of the few countries avoiding any form of closing.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/sweden-to-start-lockdowns-worlds-22864690

I believe the OP is from Philippines. Why do you believe that sex workers exist only in Thailand? A lot of people flock to Thailand in search of sex workers, because the system is semi-legal there (still not 100% legal). Researchers claim that this is the oldest profession and yet most of the countries don't want to legalize or regulate it. In the end, it causes the industry to be pushed underground, in to the hands of various criminal gangs and mafias.

"Sex social workers"?!?Do you live in Thailand?
Yes,of course that opening the economy will make the pandemic worse,but this is inevitable.
I don't think that the lockdowns and quarantines were very efficient in some countries.Most of the people just don't follow the rules and do what they want.
It's all about finding the balance between keeping a big part of the economy safe,while keeping the pandemic under control.That would be very difficult and it will require tremendous amount of efforts,but there's no easy and simple solution.

The governments have done all that they could. Now it is up to the citizens. There will be people who behave in a reckless manner, by disregarding social distancing norms and other precautionary measures. The only way to protect yourself is to keep a safe distance from such individuals. We all need to adjust ourselves, as this virus is not going to go away anytime soon. We need to get on with our daily routine, while taking the necessary precautions.

Im afraid of having a second wave of this virus. The government is less strict now when implementing the rules and health protocols. Therefore many stubborn people are acting freely as if there's no virus existing anymore.

Here in our place many people have no discipline and already forgot the social distancing just because of the lifted strict rules. Its good that some companies/businesses are re-opening so we can return back to work but im also concern for what might happen in next few days/months. I dont think we can move on with the virus if people are acting this way. The cooperation of everyone is really needed because even the economy is slowly getting better, it will become useless if the government impose another lockdown due to increasing number once again of infected.

The government can re-open the economy, but they need to warn people who will re-opening their businesses to follow every health protocol. If they don't follow, the government can force that place to close it. If the business owner doesn't follow the health protocols, that can make the pandemic worse. Even it will be worse than the last few months because that can attract many people to get an infection. We risk getting infected by Covid-19 because we don't know who the carrier is or people without symptoms, which can be dangerous to other people.

The government needs to get an income from the business sector, and people need money to continue to survive. If people can still be careful and always have health protocols, that can help people prevent the infection.

The government needs to pressure the people to comply with the protocol rules that have been provided if it is done well and the people will not be infected with Covid-19.
The economy needs to be opened during a pandemic, because it is a necessity for every citizen to seek necessities for survival. If this is still allowed, I am sure this will be a pressure for citizens to produce something that is more difficult.
So the government has opened their economy slowly but still the rules must be strictly watched so that the positive numbers do not increase again in the first wave.

Yes it can, there are many people are that are still high risk in covid19 and if we are not careful this might lead to another breakout. All of the efforts will be put to waste that our battle against the virus will not going to end.

Sad but since we cannot stand anymore the problem especially to us that we are directly being affected into this pandemic. I guess the government movement is forcing this even if the outcomes are uncertain.

the possibility is that the government is no longer able to withstand the economic burden if it continues to lockdown poeple activities. trying to keep pace with the economic downturn by giving less leeway to communities to continue their activities. however, this leeway carries the risk of a massive pandemic spreading.
If government policies are like this, hopefully they will be ready with super spread pandemic wave scenario and immediately administer a vaccine if is available.

If you check the other countries, they have already started operating normally and what differs them is that the transmission is continuing, and active cases still didn't go down within the past months. From your posts, it seems like it's in the Philippines.

Below is a graph from August 19 to October 18. (As of this posting)



I chose August 19 because we will base it on when the government made the Metro Manila into the GCQ. The minimum is 1362 and the maximum of 6167 daily new cases, ignoring the part where there is 0 data on the graph, probably no data was sent European CDC or late sending of data. That's why the next point is higher compared to the previous point.

It still plays in the range of 1841 ~ 4789 (I averaged 5 points of highs and lows)

There is still no significant movement with the country's current situation, but I think the stability is quite calming compared to the previous months. I don't know how the health system feels about this range, but it is still high IMO compared to other countries.

I hope no one gets more infected with this and follows all the health protocols that are needed. Don't go outside if it's still non-essential for you. For the workers as well, make sure that they are following the safety protocols of the company. It's going to be critical if there would be another wave of transmission, and the country could not survive another wave of that IMO.

I'm not an economist, but for someone who is in dire need to work and earn money to do that again, it is life-changing for them. For me, the economy is the people, and it's improving when they could earn to live again.

Our government is doing their best to balance everything and we also have to think the effect if there's a longer quarantine which can make the situation worst plus the effect of this pandemic.

Our life is slowly getting back to the normal, but we as an individual should also do our part to protect our health and help the government to fight this pandemic. We can't afford the whole year of quarantine and many businesses will suffer if they are still not operating. I'm confident that our government already knows what to do this time, and hopefully not to hear any pandemic resurgence again.