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Quote from: HelliumZ on June 17, 2024, 06:49:37 PM

If applied here to a gambler I would say both seriously harm a gambler. Especially when a gambler gets himself addicted to gambling, he spends the important time of his life in gambling.
But if addiction is present in a gambler and it is later coupled with greed then the matter becomes more serious. A greedy gambler is the most dangerous because when he tries to stop himself from gambling, invisible greed will not let him stop gambling. So I can say in my opinion that greed causes more harm to a gambler than addiction, it would be wrong to say only for a gambler it causes serious harm to all people.

It is clear harm for a gambler if they becomes greediness or addiction to gambling because they only lose their money and don't have a big chance to wins. Those people who becomes addiction will spends much time to playing gambling but they don't see how much money they use and lose in gambling.
They feels that they getting close with their wins but that is not right because when they becomes addiction, wins or lose is not important for them. They only wants to playing gambling more and more without thinks about the money they use.
Maybe we already feels that before so when we realizes about that, we must trying to reduce our gambling no matters if that is hard for us. We must stay away from greediness and addiction so we can enjoy playing gambling as an entertainment and not for trying to wins.

Greed and addiction is really that connected to each other on which simply means that on the moment that you do find yourself having such emotions on the moment that you do play then it would really be always considered to be that a negative thing and this is something that you should really be avoiding in the first place on where you would really be needing up for you to have that kind of approach when it comes to gambling which is really just that for the sake of fun. You cant really just that make yourself having that kind of delusional approach towards gambling because once that addiction would really be that happened into us then we would really be having a hard time on getting out or simply trying out to quit. This is why you should really be that sensible on the actions and decisions you are making
and dont make yourself that being too hopeful to make yourself a winner all the time.

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Quote from: HelliumZ on June 17, 2024, 06:49:37 PM

If applied here to a gambler I would say both seriously harm a gambler. Especially when a gambler gets himself addicted to gambling, he spends the important time of his life in gambling.
But if addiction is present in a gambler and it is later coupled with greed then the matter becomes more serious. A greedy gambler is the most dangerous because when he tries to stop himself from gambling, invisible greed will not let him stop gambling. So I can say in my opinion that greed causes more harm to a gambler than addiction, it would be wrong to say only for a gambler it causes serious harm to all people.

It is clear harm for a gambler if they becomes greediness or addiction to gambling because they only lose their money and don't have a big chance to wins. Those people who becomes addiction will spends much time to playing gambling but they don't see how much money they use and lose in gambling.
They feels that they getting close with their wins but that is not right because when they becomes addiction, wins or lose is not important for them. They only wants to playing gambling more and more without thinks about the money they use.
Maybe we already feels that before so when we realizes about that, we must trying to reduce our gambling no matters if that is hard for us. We must stay away from greediness and addiction so we can enjoy playing gambling as an entertainment and not for trying to wins.

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Re: Greediness or Addiction -which one is more disastrous?

Both are connected to each other.

Let's say a person is a greedy one, if he wins, he will continue to gamble and as he spends more time gambling, the higher the chances for him to get addicted into it. Being greedy will lead to the gambler getting addicted into it. A greedy person will always, and always gamble even he wins a huge amount already. A greedy person will always have a higher chance of getting addicted. Which one is more disastrous? None because both of them are disastrous. No one is what others called "a lesser evil" to both of them because at the end of the day, both of them will lead to huge losses to the gambler.

If you're greedy, it will lead you to huge losses at some point. If you're addicted, there will be a time that you will be losing a huge amount of money because you're spending too much time gambling, and luck isn't always on your side as always.

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Both, greediness and addiction, are the hard parts of gambling. Time spent at casinos has a power to turn you around the circle, making the generous man to be stingy and addicted one. I say this because it is what exactly happened with the friend of mine who, being a talented gambler, finally ended as a crook.

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Quote from: Sakanwa on June 14, 2024, 03:55:57 PM

Well, I think the more disastrous one here is addiction. If someone is greedy, it only means he wants more, but if he doesn't have the means to get it, he will forget it, but in addiction, there is nothing you can do about it, because addiction goes straight to stay in your blood and becomes your behavior. Once you are addicted to something, whether it's good or bad, you will always want to be doing that particular thing ,and you will find it difficult to stop, and then it turns to be your behavior. Imagine someone having a gambling behavior, that means he cannot survive without it, so even if addiction and greed work hand in hand, I still prefer greed to addiction.

You hit the nail by the head because there is no basis for comparing greed and gambling addiction. Greed is just a one part of gambling addiction, the most significant one. I think greed is like the driving force for gambling addiction because if you remove great from a gambler, the zeal to persist in gambling after a loss will not be there. Although, some gambling addicts just derive joy gambling even though they are not winning, it has become a sort of hobby, something without which they feel incomplete. At this point, it begins to appear like it has no business with greed but on a broader note, it does have everything to do with greed.

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Quote from: HelliumZ on June 17, 2024, 06:49:37 PM

If applied here to a gambler I would say both seriously harm a gambler. Especially when a gambler gets himself addicted to gambling, he spends the important time of his life in gambling.
But if addiction is present in a gambler and it is later coupled with greed then the matter becomes more serious. A greedy gambler is the most dangerous because when he tries to stop himself from gambling, invisible greed will not let him stop gambling. So I can say in my opinion that greed causes more harm to a gambler than addiction, it would be wrong to say only for a gambler it causes serious harm to all people.

Yeah you're definitely right by saying that both could be very harmful to a gambler but I'll say greed could lead to addiction whereby one loses out of greed and begin to chase lose, sometimes the lose could make such person desist from the act of greediness in gambling but most addicted gamblers are already wasted and sometimes it's very difficult to talk them out of it except with constant therapy, we all know the dangerous effects of gambling and how it's ruined the lives of many, making them deviate from other important things in life and spending all their quality time gambling whether they lose more than they make profits, so if you ask me I think gambling addiction is more dangerous than being greedy in gambling, with reasons that a gambler could stop greed due to constant lose from it but it's very difficult to talk an addicted gambler out of addiction.

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If applied here to a gambler I would say both seriously harm a gambler. Especially when a gambler gets himself addicted to gambling, he spends the important time of his life in gambling.
But if addiction is present in a gambler and it is later coupled with greed then the matter becomes more serious. A greedy gambler is the most dangerous because when he tries to stop himself from gambling, invisible greed will not let him stop gambling. So I can say in my opinion that greed causes more harm to a gambler than addiction, it would be wrong to say only for a gambler it causes serious harm to all people.

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I am sure that most gamblers will not know that they are actually addicted to gambling. The initial indication is how often you gamble. and this could lead to financial disruption due to increasingly high levels of gambling activity.
maybe the way they realize it is to experience the worst incident of gambling that gamblers do and it takes a hit to fix everything. any form of addiction always has a negative impact. and to completely get rid of gambling addiction is very difficult, even though it can be done.

greed and addiction, I think they are all part of gambling. neither is particularly bad, but gamblers may not realize they are doing both.

Addiction is particularly bad, as people keep doing something that they know is having a harmful effect over their lives and instead of stopping, they keep doing it, this is not only bad for them but very discouraging too, as those people may feel they no longer hold any control over their lives and it may make them think that beating their addiction is impossible, a mistake, as even if overcoming an addiction is difficult, it is possible if a person tries to do it with everything they have.

Let's go for both so we will encourage gamblers not to become both types of gamblers because both of them are harmful.
Addiction tends to have more immediate and severe consequences while greediness can lead to systemic issues that affect us along the process over time.

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Quote from: Awaklara on June 15, 2024, 12:05:16 PM

I am sure that most gamblers will not know that they are actually addicted to gambling. The initial indication is how often you gamble. and this could lead to financial disruption due to increasingly high levels of gambling activity.
maybe the way they realize it is to experience the worst incident of gambling that gamblers do and it takes a hit to fix everything. any form of addiction always has a negative impact. and to completely get rid of gambling addiction is very difficult, even though it can be done.

greed and addiction, I think they are all part of gambling. neither is particularly bad, but gamblers may not realize they are doing both.

Addiction is particularly bad, as people keep doing something that they know is having a harmful effect over their lives and instead of stopping, they keep doing it, this is not only bad for them but very discouraging too, as those people may feel they no longer hold any control over their lives and it may make them think that beating their addiction is impossible, a mistake, as even if overcoming an addiction is difficult, it is possible if a person tries to do it with everything they have.

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Quote from: Sakanwa on June 14, 2024, 03:55:57 PM

Well,I think the more disastrous one here is addiction.If someone is greedy,it only means he wants more,but if he doesn't have the means to get it,he will forget it,but in addiction,there is nothing you can do about it, because addiction goes straight to stay in your blood and becomes your behavior.Once you are addicted to something,whether it's good or bad,you will always want to be doing that particular thing ,and you will find it difficult to stop,and then it turns to be your behavior.Imagine someone having a gambling behavior,that means he cannot survive without it,so even if addiction and greed work hand in hand,I still prefer greed to addiction.

In my opinion, both will always have a bad impact on every gambler, if someone has won in a gambling game, of course instinct or greed will always appear in that person, always wanting bigger profits than before. Indeed, the two go hand in hand and cannot be separated in gambling games. In my opinion, the main thing in this case that brings disaster is greed. This greedy nature can make someone very addicted to playing, which can make that person spend much more money than before.

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Quote from: Frankolala on June 15, 2024, 11:45:42 AM

The worst of all addiction is the one that the gambler does not know that he is addicted and when you are telling him, he does not ac ept with you that he is addicted. This kind of gambler will not be able to free himself from addiction, because he does not care to reflect on his gambling life if he is doing it the right way or not.

If a gambler knows that he is addicted and accept it, he will be able to overcome his addiction at his own will. Greed is a vice that leads to addiction and if you bring your greedy nature into gambling, before you will know it, you will be addicted. It is better that you control your greed before it will lead you to addiction.

I am sure that most gamblers will not know that they are actually addicted to gambling. The initial indication is how often you gamble. and this could lead to financial disruption due to increasingly high levels of gambling activity.
maybe the way they realize it is to experience the worst incident of gambling that gamblers do and it takes a hit to fix everything. any form of addiction always has a negative impact. and to completely get rid of gambling addiction is very difficult, even though it can be done.

greed and addiction, I think they are all part of gambling. neither is particularly bad, but gamblers may not realize they are doing both.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on June 15, 2024, 10:07:24 AM

Greediness can leads to addictions and the two are not good to have as a gambler, because one bad thing will always lead to another and we have to make sure we take care of how we are gambling in other for us not to portray a different image other than the one we intended to have with gambling, one bad thing leads to another and so on, before we then realized, it has turned into a big challenge for us to cope with from how we gambles.

Yes, indeed the two are connected, I often see when someone is addicted to gambling and he continues to gamble every day just to recover his losses which he may have lost quite a lot so he has to get them back, but I have seen him win the jackpot and win big it seems that was more than enough to return the money he had lost and could recover everything, but what I saw next, he actually continued playing and told me that it was his lucky day and he was sure he could win even bigger.

This greed also made his addiction worse, in the end he lost again and all his winnings were gone, he went to borrow money from everyone but no one lent it, since then he became increasingly out of control doing anything to get money and finance his gambling. , he was even willing to wash other people's vehicles just to get a little money so he could gamble, his family also didn't care what happened to him, this will be an important lesson for me too that gambling should never be the pursuit of things that we don't need to pursue in gambling. just play and enjoy.

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Quote from: Issa56 on June 14, 2024, 03:45:46 PM

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You are right, we should offer help to people who are addict or find it hard for them to quit gambling even when they tried so hard to stop.

It’s always difficult to advise addicted gamblers to stop gambling, most of them will never listen, and after talking to some of them, they will still end up going back to gambling. Some will start arguments that they are not addicted to gambling, and no matter what you tell them, they will deny their addiction. The only time I do advise an addicted gambler is when the person admits about his addiction and the person is really ready to stop gambling and can’t do it on his own. Then I will be able to guide and support the person in some ways that I can.

The worst of all addiction is the one that the gambler does not know that he is addicted and when you are telling him, he does not ac ept with you that he is addicted. This kind of gambler will not be able to free himself from addiction, because he does not care to reflect on his gambling life if he is doing it the right way or not.

If a gambler knows that he is addicted and accept it, he will be able to overcome his addiction at his own will. Greed is a vice that leads to addiction and if you bring your greedy nature into gambling, before you will know it, you will be addicted. It is better that you control your greed before it will lead you to addiction.

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Quote from: crwth on June 15, 2024, 10:12:58 AM

I think they intertwined with one another because gambling addiction can be caused by greediness. And greediness can be caused by gambling addiction. It's like vice versa in a way that one wouldn't exist without the other. It's mostly about how you are going to be more into if it you let it. They are equally disastrous to me because it can start both ways.

I think they are interchangeably since it’s impossible for gambling addicted person to reach the addicted level without being greedy since greediness is the driving factor of addiction.

I think it’s more on a phase which start from greediness that turns into addiction. You will never become addicted to something without being greedy.

But the lesser evil will be greediness since this can be for short term only that go on after rhe game while addiction is continuous problem even after the game.

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I think they intertwined with one another because gambling addiction can be caused by greediness. And greediness can be caused by gambling addiction. It's like vice versa in a way that one wouldn't exist without the other. It's mostly about how you are going to be more into if it you let it. They are equally disastrous to me because it can start both ways.

Maybe a question of what can cause eviler? Or something to that extent.

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Greediness can leads to addictions and the two are not good to have as a gambler, because one bad thing will always lead to another and we have to make sure we take care of how we are gambling in other for us not to portray a different image other than the one we intended to have with gambling, one bad thing leads to another and so on, before we then realized, it has turned into a big challenge for us to cope with from how we gambles.

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Greediness is more bad than any other type of addition because when you are greedy you will lose more but when you are addicted to it, you can sell your valuable when you are greeting because you want to make the whole money that is not how it's supposed to be so the only thing, immediately you start being greedy greetings can turn you to a poor man and you will lose more than what you can even afford to my even cause your life that is why is not good to be a greedy gambler because the amount you are gambling with is unfair to your income

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on June 14, 2024, 05:09:15 PM

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Addiction and greediness walk side by side, but if we have to say which one is the most harmful, I would say it's addiction, because it implies a more compulsive and disastrous behavior from the individual, what means he acts without thinking rationally, logically and thinking on the consequences of his acts. Greediness solely, on the other hand, might mean the individual is avid for profits and wealth in an extreme manner, although it doesn't imply he acts compulsively for that reason.

Actually, he may act rationally and logically in order to achieve his greedy goals, being a successful businessman, entrepreneur, investor and so on... Greediness doesn't necessarily prejudice someone's skill to make money, while addiction does.

I would also go with addiction as the more disastrous one. Because most addicted gamblers won't stop even if they have no more funds to spare in their gambling activities. So they resort to taking loans and other worst scenarios such as stealing. Whereas, with greediness, the gambler may still have the awareness of stopping his habit. Sometimes he just wants to continue his games despite of winnings.

Greed is a trait and addiction is a cycle, meaning that in this case I cannot separate greed from addiction, because greed is something that can trigger addiction, meaning that these two things will go hand in hand where greed is the initial trigger, And if we talk about addiction then yes of course that is a bad cycle or zone that can cause a variety of much worse impacts that we never thought before, these significant impacts occur as a result of a gambler who makes various actions and decisions that are really aggressive, one of which is like what you said that they are even desperate to justify all means just so they can get involved in gambling.

Whatever they will do, especially borrowing money from anyone with various reasons based on lies so that others believe and give loans that they can even do other worse things like what you said, namely stealing or robbing or cheating others. And as I said above that greed is still a trait that humans have and what is called a trait is a habit that they often do, meaning that although awareness is still a possible thing to achieve but I think it is very unlikely when it has become a habit.

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Exactly addiction not something one can easily stop , most gambler downfall was due to addiction because some gamblers can't stay without gambling, and in gambling either one win or lose , and most time the chances of losing is higher expecially as an irresponsible gambler. And most addicted gambler are usually irresponsible gamblers. So yeah I think addiction is more disastrous than greed but still both are bad when it comes to gambling

Addiction and greediness walk side by side, but if we have to say which one is the most harmful, I would say it's addiction, because it implies a more compulsive and disastrous behavior from the individual, what means he acts without thinking rationally, logically and thinking on the consequences of his acts. Greediness solely, on the other hand, might mean the individual is avid for profits and wealth in an extreme manner, although it doesn't imply he acts compulsively for that reason.

Actually, he may act rationally and logically in order to achieve his greedy goals, being a successful businessman, entrepreneur, investor and so on... Greediness doesn't necessarily prejudice someone's skill to make money, while addiction does.

I would also go with addiction as the more disastrous one. Because most addicted gamblers won't stop even if they have no more funds to spare in their gambling activities. So they resort to taking loans and other worst scenarios such as stealing. Whereas, with greediness, the gambler may still have the awareness of stopping his habit. Sometimes he just wants to continue his games despite of winnings.

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Quote from: I_Anime on June 14, 2024, 04:44:53 PM

Exactly addiction not something one can easily stop , most gambler downfall was due to addiction because some gamblers can't stay without gambling, and in gambling either one win or lose , and most time the chances of losing is higher expecially as an irresponsible gambler. And most addicted gambler are usually irresponsible gamblers. So yeah I think addiction is more disastrous than greed but still both are bad when it comes to gambling

Addiction and greediness walk side by side, but if we have to say which one is the most harmful, I would say it's addiction, because it implies a more compulsive and disastrous behavior from the individual, what means he acts without thinking rationally, logically and thinking on the consequences of his acts. Greediness solely, on the other hand, might mean the individual is avid for profits and wealth in an extreme manner, although it doesn't imply he acts compulsively for that reason.

Actually, he may act rationally and logically in order to achieve his greedy goals, being a successful businessman, entrepreneur, investor and so on... Greediness doesn't necessarily prejudice someone's skill to make money, while addiction does.

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