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Quote from: Sakanwa on June 14, 2024, 03:55:57 PM

Well,I think the more disastrous one here is addiction.If someone is greedy,it only means he wants more,but if he doesn't have the means to get it,he will forget it,but in addiction,there is nothing you can do about it, because addiction goes straight to stay in your blood and becomes your behavior.Once you are addicted to something,whether it's good or bad,you will always want to be doing that particular thing ,and you will find it difficult to stop,and then it turns to be your behavior.Imagine someone having a gambling behavior,that means he cannot survive without it,so even if addiction and greed work hand in hand,I still prefer greed to addiction.

Exactly addiction not something one can easily stop , most gambler downfall was due to addiction because some gamblers can't stay without gambling, and in gambling either one win or lose , and most time the chances of losing is higher expecially as an irresponsible gambler. And most addicted gambler are usually irresponsible gamblers. So yeah I think addiction is more disastrous than greed but still both are bad when it comes to gambling

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Well,I think the more disastrous one here is addiction.If someone is greedy,it only means he wants more,but if he doesn't have the means to get it,he will forget it,but in addiction,there is nothing you can do about it, because addiction goes straight to stay in your blood and becomes your behavior.Once you are addicted to something,whether it's good or bad,you will always want to be doing that particular thing ,and you will find it difficult to stop,and then it turns to be your behavior.Imagine someone having a gambling behavior,that means he cannot survive without it,so even if addiction and greed work hand in hand,I still prefer greed to addiction.

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Quote from: Ever-young on June 14, 2024, 02:53:59 PM

You are right, we should offer help to people who are addict or find it hard for them to quit gambling even when they tried so hard to stop.

It’s always difficult to advise addicted gamblers to stop gambling, most of them will never listen, and after talking to some of them, they will still end up going back to gambling. Some will start arguments that they are not addicted to gambling, and no matter what you tell them, they will deny their addiction. The only time I do advise an addicted gambler is when the person admits about his addiction and the person is really ready to stop gambling and can’t do it on his own. Then I will be able to guide and support the person in some ways that I can.

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Quote from: Ever-young on June 14, 2024, 02:53:59 PM

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They both can result in losing money. Whichever a person has and it comes to a point that he loses everything, it's all disaster. But addiction is harder to fight. Addicts will just keep depositing even if the money is intended for something else and the domino effect happens quickly when the person can't pay the bills.

You are right, we should offer help to people who are addict or find it hard for them to quit gambling even when they tried so hard to stop.

That is why it's good and advisable for people to gamble responsibly because it can cause a lot of disastrous things in their lives such depression, frustration and can even affect their mental health if care is not taken. So let's try and gamble on what we can afford to lose and stop when we know we are not winning again.

It is more easier to talk someone out of addiction when they are just beginning to experience some of the symptoms, than when they are already addicted. Yeah most persons wouldn't want to receive any advice from any person because they might think they are doing just fine, or they might be too proud to admit that they can make mistakes along the way. Gambling has a way of destroying your mental health if you fall into addiction and at that stage, the addited gambler might become more arrogant, not wanting to take advice or admit that what they are doing is actually wrong. Separating greediness from addiction sounds a bit off, as they both work hand in hand. All addicted gamblers are greedy, and that's the major read n they are addicted.

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Quote from: bittraffic on May 29, 2024, 02:35:57 AM

They both can result in losing money. Whichever a person has and it comes to a point that he loses everything, it's all disaster. But addiction is harder to fight. Addicts will just keep depositing even if the money is intended for something else and the domino effect happens quickly when the person can't pay the bills.

You are right, we should offer help to people who are addict or find it hard for them to quit gambling even when they tried so hard to stop.

That is why it's good and advisable for people to gamble responsibly because it can cause a lot of disastrous things in their lives such depression, frustration and can even affect their mental health if care is not taken. So let's try and gamble on what we can afford to lose and stop when we know we are not winning again.

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I think that this is still happening to other gamblers, and it is sad that discipline is not applied to gambling. In fact, self-discipline is not difficult to do; it's just that because of greed and addiction, they don't do it, so the result is no wonder they lose in the end.

I hope other gamblers see this so they don't have to go through the same bad experiences as others, so I really agree with what you are saying.

Don't stay along without having good time to execute goals from the system. Experience have taught us alot more and we become volatile and vulnerable if we allow our past to haunt us, rather we fight and present ourselves to the new day and results. Gambling doesn't inculcate discipline in the minds of gamblers, there's a whole lot happening in the space and we should be careful when dealing with the space.

Whether gambling instigate discipline to gamblers is a personal problem. A majority of gamblers for sure are truly not learning discipline in gambling, due to their individual gambling motives. Players who face losses in gambling actually undergo phases of personal encounters regarding their mode of thinking. In a way, high number of responsible players actually learn few or more disciplines. Out of the people who don't follow up nice gambling habits, a few of them were not educated of gambling. However, greediness leads to addiction. There are cohorts and nothing would separate a greedy player from gambling addiction.

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Quote from: teamsherry on June 07, 2024, 02:32:39 PM

Greed is something that can happen to anyone and it can be more controlled since its just a decision and would only implicate you once, but addiction on the other hand can be continuous and has more potential to actually destroy a person more than greed cause addiction can cause you to spend a whole fortune on your addiction and greed can't unless your stupid.

Greed is not just about making decisions but the pleasure to decieve and cheat at the same time. Greed can easily lead to continuous losses if we don't try as much as possible for us to fix things to help ourselves if in case one is able to detect that they have such kind of behavior. This can be a very difficult decision but it is important we try to resolve and ignore such spirit of feelings since it has more consequences compared to addiction. I think addiction can still be controlled compared to greed that could even make the person to feel like everyone does not like them because of their characters. The effects of greed is worse than mere addiction.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on May 29, 2024, 02:16:28 AM

Well, I believe that both Greediness and Gambling Addiction make our lives terrible. I was thinking about which one of the two reasons causes more disastrous in our life both in terms of mental health and finances.

It would be the base of experience or just purely an opinion but for me, Greediness is something that would really make us cripple.
"I want to bet more and more in order to win more. I will sell my properties so I can bet huge. " Greediness mindset keeps on the winning side, not satisfaction.

But addiction is a little disastrous, why? Because they can be satisfied with betting a small amount, at least they can gamble.

However, both can possibly happen in our lives when we can't control our gambling habit anymore. I prefer not the two but in this situation, I prefer to be just addicted rather than be greedy.

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The truth is none of them is good I mean the both are bad. when we say greed, it is relative that is to say that it can be that one is always greed when it comes to cashing out games or playing with little money to win huge amount and that one you said while addiction is just addiction, that's always in gamble whether win or loss and if you don't have you will borrow and some people go to an extent of stealing to gamble that's how bad addict can be however, I may not know your reasons why you said you prefer addiction to greed but whatever the reason may be I think it's not true I mean it's not correct sorry if you see it as a rude response but addict is more disastrous than greed.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on June 03, 2024, 05:54:21 PM

I think that this is still happening to other gamblers, and it is sad that discipline is not applied to gambling. In fact, self-discipline is not difficult to do; it's just that because of greed and addiction, they don't do it, so the result is no wonder they lose in the end.

I hope other gamblers see this so they don't have to go through the same bad experiences as others, so I really agree with what you are saying.

Don't stay along without having good time to execute goals from the system. Experience have taught us alot more and we become volatile and vulnerable if we allow our past to haunt us, rather we fight and present ourselves to the new day and results. Gambling doesn't inculcate discipline in the minds of gamblers, there's a whole lot happening in the space and we should be careful when dealing with the space.

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Both are dangerous things that can lead a gambler to various possible bad impacts, meaning that somehow we must prevent this from happening, in whatever way you can and what you think makes sense to do. And I would also say that addiction and greed are two things that usually go hand in hand, where the scenario is that when a gambler comes with the intention of earning then of course they will continue to pursue winnings in gambling with high hopes and confidence because they are addicted to previous wins. which they managed to get.

Or what it means is that initially they experience an increased interest in winning and it is an addiction and after that when they succeed in winning a certain amount then in the end there is nothing else they will do other than applying greed with high confidence and hope to get a greater amount of winnings. big, and what they don't know is that defeat will always be something that is certain to happen at any time, where usually greed will again lead someone to loss and regret.

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Quote from: adpinbr on June 05, 2024, 03:39:24 PM

Well I can’t really tell the one that is more more handful because I don’t like any of the both, they are both dangerous and cost you a lot because you will just end up on losing a lot and I won’t concentrate on what is needed to be done, but I feel like greediness is more dangerous because you can end up on losing more than you think on gambling because you want to gamble with a big amount that you won’t be able to forget if you lost it, and you would want to do more and gain more, but sometimes I think that addiction and greediness works together

Actually, addiction is different from greediness, but what you will consider is which of them you can get rid of quickly. I can say you can easily leave addiction, but you can’t leave greediness, and at some other point, you can say that sometimes greediness is useful but not in all cases, but if we are to consider deeply, I will think greediness is also very dangerous.

Because greediness is something that you can hardly leave because it deals with your mind set and emotions, and when things deal with that, you can’t even have any therapy on it because, no matter what the therapist says, he will never know how to work with your mind set. That is why I think greediness is more dangerous than addiction because in addiction you can even have a chance of leaving due to therapy, poverty, or even family influence because it is cureable.

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on June 02, 2024, 04:26:03 PM

In my opinion both are equally disastrous however greediness can result in addiction over time. The fact is that most of the time , people who lose more during Gambling activities are usually the ones that take gambling too serious to the extent that to some of them it becomes their source of income and because they require funds to do a great deal of things they begin to spend more time on gambling activities just to be able to meet up with the amount of money they need.
Personally I see gambling addiction as the result of prolonged effect of improper and unhealthy gambling practices like spending excess time on gambling activities or even having the habit of staking over their means which is something that I think most addicts have in common.

Gambling addiction is the bye product of greediness. You want more money in what had no guarantee of giving you such funds. Laziness too is inclusive in the cause of addiction, you choose the easy life of making a career out of gambling by predicting outcomes instead of getting a proper skill that promises a return on investments made on yourself.

Many people get addicted too after they're had their first wins. They greedily chase more wins in the same fashion thinking its their right to claim wins over the casino. Of course they get disappointed when the deep lake casino drowns their funds.

Greediness and addiction are a result of not gambling in moderation, if you must gamble, then you must be disciplined. Discipline saves is a lot from greediness and possible addiction that results from it.

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Greed is something that can happen to anyone and it can be more controlled since its just a decision and would only implicate you once, but addiction on the other hand can be continuous and has more potential to actually destroy a person more than greed cause addiction can cause you to spend a whole fortune on your addiction and greed can't unless your stupid.

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Quote from: Wakate on June 05, 2024, 06:53:11 PM

Quote from: adpinbr on June 05, 2024, 03:39:24 PM

Well I can’t really tell the one that is more more handful because I don’t like any of the both, they are both dangerous and cost you a lot because you will just end up on losing a lot and I won’t concentrate on what is needed to be done, but I feel like greediness is more dangerous because you can end up on losing more than you think on gambling because you want to gamble with a big amount that you won’t be able to forget if you lost it, and you would want to do more and gain more, but sometimes I think that addiction and greediness works together

Greed and addiction are one of the problems that major gamblers have been facing and there is always need to be relinquished. Those we are addicted to gambling has a problem of not been disciplined because of there is discipline the addiction may never comes. Greed is the worse and might not have a remedy if we mist have been addicted to been greedy as a gambler. We can make money but lose it as a result of greed that would have penetrated our mindset. Greedy could lead to an addiction vise versa but the worse to think it is greed and we just have to be careful about it because it has made so many gambler go bankruptcy.

You reach a very appropriate turning point, and that is when you say the word “Discipline”, this word carries a lot of weight, because I personally have always been someone who has maintained some sports disciplines, soccer, hapkido, boxing, have been my sports, of course swimming too, but that was when I was more of a teenager, however that discipline that one has in those sports can be passed on to the financial part, in the financial and money management, if we have the discipline to control our money to play in a casino, we will never fall into addiction or any vice, because we have everything controlled under our discipline.

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Quote from: adpinbr on June 05, 2024, 03:39:24 PM

Well I can’t really tell the one that is more more handful because I don’t like any of the both, they are both dangerous and cost you a lot because you will just end up on losing a lot and I won’t concentrate on what is needed to be done, but I feel like greediness is more dangerous because you can end up on losing more than you think on gambling because you want to gamble with a big amount that you won’t be able to forget if you lost it, and you would want to do more and gain more, but sometimes I think that addiction and greediness works together

Greed and addiction are one of the problems that major gamblers have been facing and there is always need to be relinquished. Those we are addicted to gambling has a problem of not been disciplined because of there is discipline the addiction may never comes. Greed is the worse and might not have a remedy if we mist have been addicted to been greedy as a gambler. We can make money but lose it as a result of greed that would have penetrated our mindset. Greedy could lead to an addiction vise versa but the worse to think it is greed and we just have to be careful about it because it has made so many gambler go bankruptcy.

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So if you ask, which greed and addiction will be a disaster? the answer is that both will lead you to disaster. It is important to control your emotions when gambling so that things like this can be avoided. If there are any signs that you are headed there, then you need to advise yourself. Because a responsible gambler is someone who can advise himself to gamble within his limits and not force himself on something he cannot control.

I have also the same answer, both are disastrous.

Greed and addiction leads to both ugly results and that's why if you're going to compare it, there's no difference with these two and one gambler having any of it will still have a bad ending with whatever bet they would do.

With control of emotion, you might able to see things very easy as you know yourself better if you're still in the right mind and you can feel that you're greedy to avoid being addicted.

Even not with greediness but with wrong decisions, you can still end up disastrously with how you do your gambling sessions.

Greediness at least can produce some positive outcomes, as a person that is greedy will try to find the most efficient ways to do anything so they can increase their profits, which in return makes society more efficient as well, however I have yet to see a single good outcome coming out from an addiction, and even if a person learned a lot after going through a period of addiction, those are lessons they could have learned anyway and without having to suffer as much as they did when they were addicted.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on May 29, 2024, 02:16:28 AM

It would be the base of experience or just purely an opinion but for me, Greediness is something that would really make us cripple.
"I want to bet more and more in order to win more. I will sell my properties so I can bet huge. " Greediness mindset keeps on the winning side, not satisfaction.

But addiction is a little disastrous, why? Because they can be satisfied with betting a small amount, at least they can gamble.

However, both can possibly happen in our lives when we can't control our gambling habit anymore. I prefer not the two but in this situation, I prefer to be just addicted rather than be greedy.

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Greed is bad and addiction is bad, there is no need to even compare the two together, they are both bad for gambler. As a gambler, if you have too much greed in you, there is nothing you might get from gambling because even with simple gains, you will want to apply greed which can obviously make you lose everything and as too much greed makes you lose money, you might be tempted to make back your losses because of that greed and you might be addicted in the process.

If you must gamble, do it moderately, don't be overwhelmed with greed and give limit to how you gamble and when to gamble, limiting things in life helps you a lot, this not just about gambling alone, it's a principle about life and it good practice for every gambler that want to go far in gambling, reduce greed and don't become emotional about it.

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Well I can’t really tell the one that is more more handful because I don’t like any of the both, they are both dangerous and cost you a lot because you will just end up on losing a lot and I won’t concentrate on what is needed to be done, but I feel like greediness is more dangerous because you can end up on losing more than you think on gambling because you want to gamble with a big amount that you won’t be able to forget if you lost it, and you would want to do more and gain more, but sometimes I think that addiction and greediness works together

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Everything must start from the mind, or meaning the various actions that a person will carry out at the behest of his own mind, and that is why there are some people who make mistakes, especially when they don't know what they are actually doing, and this is why I say that the first thing that must first be correct is our understanding, because by having a correct understanding, it is likely that our brain and mind will also direct ourselves to various actions that are in accordance with our abilities and by avoiding various decisions that are not wise. .

Regarding positive thinking or whatever, the point in my opinion is to understand how gambling actually is and limit all your decisions as well as limit your hopes for winning, remember that victory can only come when we are lucky, and positive thinking is not something that can guarantee luck.

I support this and I will add that we should always try to look back on every game, the reason and essence why we stake on that game and what was our aim, we also need to check our funds in order not to use an important money for gambling out of excitement and will now be under pressure trying to get the money when we lose it .

Gambling addiction collocate to greed though it should be noted one can be greedy and not addicted to gambling and vice versa since some people became addicted to gambling unknowingly simply because they're trying to get what they lost from a casino/gambling and then lost.

Yes that's a good addition which is another thing that we should also pay attention to is to find reasons about why we choose the game and what are the goals of playing there, but overall still wherever you play and whatever type of game you play in the end still don't put the intention and purpose of getting a win, or what it means is not to be too excessive in expecting a win and it's better to focus on various precautions to minimize the possibility of significant risks, such as making sure not to use the budget for other more important needs in our lives.

Of course addiction is something that always involves greed in it and I think those two things can never be separated if we talk about gambling, and as we know that a gambler who has entered the addiction phase always acts excessively especially when winning such as continuing the session to get a bigger amount and obviously that is greed.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on May 29, 2024, 02:16:28 AM

Well, I believe that both Greediness and Gambling Addiction make our lives terrible. I was thinking about which one of the two reasons causes more disastrous in our life both in terms of mental health and finances.

It would be the base of experience or just purely an opinion but for me, Greediness is something that would really make us cripple.
"I want to bet more and more in order to win more. I will sell my properties so I can bet huge. " Greediness mindset keeps on the winning side, not satisfaction.

But addiction is a little disastrous, why? Because they can be satisfied with betting a small amount, at least they can gamble.

However, both can possibly happen in our lives when we can't control our gambling habit anymore. I prefer not the two but in this situation, I prefer to be just addicted rather than be greedy.

One of them is no less dangerous than the other, and if greed can be considered a main reason for falling prey to addiction (psychological illness), then addiction is the fulfillment of psychological needs and has nothing to do with greed in the main. Psychology believes that gambling addiction is one of the most specific types of addictive diseases due to the complexities that accompany case studies, diagnosing symptoms, and anticipating possible treatment methods. Therefore, it does not believe that greed is the main motivator for intense gambling that leads to addiction if it continues over a period of time. long. At the same time, greed is considered one of the natural characteristics of people, the amount of which varies from one person to another according to his cultural composition and surrounding circumstances.

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