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Quote from: Mia Chloe on June 02, 2024, 04:26:03 PM

In my opinion both are equally disastrous however greediness can result in addiction over time. The fact is that most of the time , people who lose more during Gambling activities are usually the ones that take gambling too serious to the extent that to some of them it becomes their source of income and because they require funds to do a great deal of things they begin to spend more time on gambling activities just to be able to meet up with the amount of money they need.
Personally I see gambling addiction as the result of prolonged effect of improper and unhealthy gambling practices like spending excess time on gambling activities or even having the habit of staking over their means which is something that I think most addicts have in common.

This is true because both too at some point work together a s so they can both lead anyone to distraction a s this will have a lot to do with how well they are able to handle it, if you have a very good Level of self control, handling greed is something you can always put in place but when you don't have enough self control, you get Very greedy a d will not be able to utilize the little you have get or know when no to continue so you don't end up loosing all that you have already.

Your view of gambling addiction aswell is even a very relatable and correct way of seeing gambling addiction of which if you observe carefully amongst addicts, you may get to find this which you did mentioned common amongst them all and you will agree with me that it's a common thing amongst the gamblers.

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Greediness will lead you to addiction.

The hunger of winning more or recovering your losses could lead you to that state. But I think both of them shouldn't be patronized by any of us although it's no longer a secret that many can't stop themselves.

Either way, both are disastrous. That's what I think with both of them as the impact and effect of it are not good to any of us.

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on June 02, 2024, 04:26:03 PM

In my opinion both are equally disastrous however greediness can result in addiction over time. The fact is that most of the time , people who lose more during Gambling activities are usually the ones that take gambling too serious to the extent that to some of them it becomes their source of income and because they require funds to do a great deal of things they begin to spend more time on gambling activities just to be able to meet up with the amount of money they need.
Personally I see gambling addiction as the result of prolonged effect of improper and unhealthy gambling practices like spending excess time on gambling activities or even having the habit of staking over their means which is something that I think most addicts have in common.

Both disastrous and both correlated to each other i would say because you wont really be that getting addicted if you wont really be that greedy because one of the things that could really be pushing you to play further more is on the moment that you do find yourself that being having that kind of intent to play even more despite of the financial condition that you are into. It would really be that too impossible that you wont really be able to make yourself wary on the things that you are really that involving into specially when dealing up with gambling. It would really be just that a normal condition that you would be chasing up your loses
at the moment that you are doing gambling this is why self control would really be relevance.

At the moment that you are on such condition on which you are that trying out to be rich with gambling then this is where desperation would really be kicking in and at the moment that
you would really be out of control then you would really be finding yourself having that kind of messed up condition which would really be ending up for you to have
that kind of realization but well its already too late.

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on June 02, 2024, 04:26:03 PM

In my opinion both are equally disastrous however greediness can result in addiction over time. The fact is that most of the time , people who lose more during Gambling activities are usually the ones that take gambling too serious to the extent that to some of them it becomes their source of income and because they require funds to do a great deal of things they begin to spend more time on gambling activities just to be able to meet up with the amount of money they need.
Personally I see gambling addiction as the result of prolonged effect of improper and unhealthy gambling practices like spending excess time on gambling activities or even having the habit of staking over their means which is something that I think most addicts have in common.

Your opinion about the subject matter is 100% spot on mate. When it comes to gambling, greediness and addiction are two strong factors that every gambler should avoid if he truly wants to succeed in gambling or risk wasting everything he gets in gambling. Greediness in gambling is the easiest way to become a gambling addict so the two of them compliments each other. When I started gambling, I started gambling with a huge winning that helped me clear my debt but immediately after my first day, I started thinking that it's right for to gamble as often as i can which atbthe end, i became very greedy with my gambling engagements and utterly became an addict

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In my opinion both are equally disastrous however greediness can result in addiction over time. The fact is that most of the time , people who lose more during Gambling activities are usually the ones that take gambling too serious to the extent that to some of them it becomes their source of income and because they require funds to do a great deal of things they begin to spend more time on gambling activities just to be able to meet up with the amount of money they need.
Personally I see gambling addiction as the result of prolonged effect of improper and unhealthy gambling practices like spending excess time on gambling activities or even having the habit of staking over their means which is something that I think most addicts have in common.

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Addiction and greediness are two different things for me, both terms are used in several situations and when it comes to gambling, addiction comes because of greediness, it is that feeling which makes any gambler not satisfied so he keep gambling, until he becomes an addict, this last one as you mentioned in your example :

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addiction is a little disastrous, why? Because they can be satisfied with betting a small amount, at least they can gamble.

This mindset of a gambler who is going or started an early addiction, first times of gambling, that person will enjoy any amount he best with, until he begins in selling everything and risking his savings to feel that adrenaline rush, with small amount at the very beginning until he raises his bet amounts due to greediness, eventually these both feelings are going to destroy him and his life very slowly without noticing it.

If you want an answer to your question, you can Imagine any drug addict who started with weed until engaging in dangerous and mortal drugs, greediness to me is attached with addiction most of the time

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One is a result of the other. Unfortunately, informing them about the principle of responsible gambling isn't going to cut it; don't you think they already know it? Increasing awareness isn't going to help them. They're just in denial: "I'm not addicted; I can stop whenever I want," but that couldn't be further from the truth. Trust me, I've heard it quite a few times myself. The first step is to acknowledge that you're addicted. Those who suffer rarely accept it as the truth, and they'll eventually score a large win, making them even greedier and thirstier for more. Gambling addiction and greed are a vicious cycle.

A big win will also make someone lose more, after getting a big win someone will be more confident that he will get a big win from the bet he made, the more here they will be more greedy and more think that they can get what they want from gambling, I think everything has a correlation with what is being talked about because it will get greedy and addiction which has a close relationship with the case of someone getting disastrous from gambling.

Yes most people deny that they are greedy and addicted, they refuse to admit it and feel that they can control themselves, but what we see is that they use most of their money to gamble and tell the truth after everything is used up in gambling, I found cases like this, when someone feels that they still have money they are arrogant and do not accept the facts, but when the money runs out they tell the truth that they regret having gambled their money in gambling without restrictions, but when they have the money back they make the same mistake.

That first major win is bait, not wealth. It makes you feel like a wizard, not just a lucky schmuck, on your own supply. Unfortunately, casinos aren't charities. They're meant to make, not provide. Every game and dice roll is rigged for them, not you. You may get lucky, but it eventually runs out. If you're not careful, your first big win can turn into a massive loss, regret, and empty wallets

Greed and addiction lead to chasing losses, betting money you don't have, and wrecking your life. Be smart when gambling. Set limitations, follow them, and remember it's a game. Don't get caught up in the rush, don't try to win back what you lost, and don't bet more than you can afford

Yes, it can also be said to be a bait, a big win will make a person think that he gets wealth easily, then feel that he can create money, and if we are fixated on that thought then it is possible that we will come back and come back to get money again in the same way by bringing bigger money and entering the casino and thinking that he will get a lot more money because he has a large capital, greed and addiction to victory begin to envelop his heart and mind, but after the big win no longer get what was expected before.

In the end he used money that could not be lost then continued to pursue it and ended up losing everything even the money he had won from the previous game, people who are covered in greed and addiction will be disastrous in life, this applies in any field.

yes the point is not to chase what has been lost, never try and try after the limit of money budgeted for gambling has been exhausted which forces you to deposit again, avoid actions that will make us impulsive towards gambling to maintain sanity.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on May 29, 2024, 02:16:28 AM

Well, I believe that both Greediness and Gambling Addiction make our lives terrible. I was thinking about which one of the two reasons causes more disastrous in our life both in terms of mental health and finances.

It would be the base of experience or just purely an opinion but for me, Greediness is something that would really make us cripple.
"I want to bet more and more in order to win more. I will sell my properties so I can bet huge. " Greediness mindset keeps on the winning side, not satisfaction.

But addiction is a little disastrous, why? Because they can be satisfied with betting a small amount, at least they can gamble.

However, both can possibly happen in our lives when we can't control our gambling habit anymore. I prefer not the two but in this situation, I prefer to be just addicted rather than be greedy.

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Being greedy, just like being addict, isn't on-off situation. There are differeent levels of being greedy, and different levels of being addicts. Most of the people share some of the both traits, but they aren't in a level that's problematic. Definition of greedy can seem different to different people. People who are ultimately greedy because it's part of their sociopath symptoms might see only positive sides by being greedy. Especially when they themselves are greedy. Others can be obstacles for them if they are.

Addicts often seem greedy as nothing satisfies them. Actually it could be brain rewarding issue, when greedy person wants more, they get their dopamine fix, but that's not enough for a while. When addicts get their dopamine fix, they are greedy for something, and that something isn't filling their needs too long before they need another fix. This fix can be anything they are addicted to. But it's not ever enough. And for greedy people, it's not always just more money. It can be more of anything, and it never fills their need for too long.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on May 29, 2024, 02:16:28 AM

Well, I believe that both Greediness and Gambling Addiction make our lives terrible. I was thinking about which one of the two reasons causes more disastrous in our life both in terms of mental health and finances.

It would be the base of experience or just purely an opinion but for me, Greediness is something that would really make us cripple.
"I want to bet more and more in order to win more. I will sell my properties so I can bet huge. " Greediness mindset keeps on the winning side, not satisfaction.

I'd say, addiction is more deadly than any other urge a gambler would have.. a greedy gambler can gamble away all his earnings and also, his assets; but mostimes, they could get across an interception that would blur the vision and submerge his extravagant attitude.. it may be his wifey, children, parents, job, friends, or real life problems.

Addiction is a different story in general; they could get an interception and, after a while, they'd be back trying to wager again. Subconsciously, they're always thinking they could win through the period they're not actively gambling.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on June 01, 2024, 05:46:44 AM

Well, greediness is not the only thing that exists or is actually experienced in gambling. No matter where we are in relation to money, greediness is always around. It's really up to us if we keep it in our thoughts and adopt it to apply to our character.

The only thing that is usually really useful is that there is too much greed in the gambling category because most of the gambling players are small, hoping that they will get a lucky jackpot that they think will happen to them who also got the jackpot prize in gambling instant wealth. That's it.

We are born greedy in nature. In fact, that serves as our own motivation but the outcome will only differ based on how you will use your greed. If you are highly greedy and turns uncontrollable, that is never good anymore. You will end up falling into gambling addiction eventually. However, if you only use your greed minimally, there’s never wrong with it as long as you know how to control and limit your greed. Gambling addiction starts with a greedy mindset, that’s why as much as possible, learn to control your greed so you won’t up falling into gambling addiction.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on June 01, 2024, 05:46:44 AM

Well, greediness is not the only thing that exists or is actually experienced in gambling. No matter where we are in relation to money, greediness is always around. It's really up to us if we keep it in our thoughts and adopt it to apply to our character.

The only thing that is usually really useful is that there is too much greed in the gambling category because most of the gambling players are small, hoping that they will get a lucky jackpot that they think will happen to them who also got the jackpot prize in gambling instant wealth. That's it.

I don't know what you mean by saying the gambling players are small because am certain that opposite it is the case when it comes to the numbers of gamblers out there. What I feel is the cause is just based on the fact that every gambler just wants to have a piece of the luck that maybe must have gotten to some else because from my observations the quickest way for a story to be spread is when someone actually won some huge amount of money, believe me it takes no second for the whole thing to reflect or reach the ears of the entire world.

People are attracted to other people winnings and for me this is not greedy as it's a normal thing for people to get inspired by their winnings but the only issue now is that they would be know when they want to stop and start.

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Both are actually disastrous for me but addiction is severe in the long run as greed is like a short term habit I think but it also hurts if we lose since we are overspending just to get max winnings but that is only possible if we will be lucky. This mostly happen from low budget to average gamblers who increase their bets in the hope of winning much more money but still winning could be one on a million incident.

You spoked so well mate. Addiction is a long run something but greediness comes once in a while. However both addition and greediness are almost the same but one comes first before the other. If not for greediness some gamblers won't have been addicted to gamble. Gamble is fun when winning but few gamblers gamble for profit. Although gambling for profits alone doesn't make one to be addicted. When a gambler is gambling for profits and greedy same time it makes them becomes addicted.

You are right, excessive love for money makes a gambler gamble more than required, which results in him getting to that point where he can no longer say no to gambling. Like I said before, addiction doesn't just happen, something triggered it to happen. In the case of gambling, addiction is triggered by greed and this makes greed even more disastrous. Greed doesn't only lead to addiction, it causes loss of money, ruins relationships and causes so many other unimaginable harms to the greedy gambler. As long as gamblers continue to ignore the potential consequences of greed, they will keep getting into trouble.

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For me, I will say the two works in hand in hand because if someone is greedy while gambling, he will wants to gamble more, in that case, addiction steps in, which is very hard for any gamblers to stop.

And there is no way a person will gamble and win, he will still wants to gamble more, that is you have a target that day, maybe you are looking for money which you want to use it for something else, and you said, you want to go and try luck in gambling, and eventually your luck shine and win but it's not enough and you want to gamble more, while gambling, you start losing and then you will be angry and wants to try again and win again, just like that, one becomes an addict and anything that makes a gambler become greedy or an addicts, it's never going to be a benefit one for the person, it will have a side effect in their lives. So no one is good or better, the two are worst thing a gambler would experience.

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Quote from: Su-asa on June 01, 2024, 01:02:44 PM

Quote from: 0t3p0t on June 01, 2024, 12:38:46 PM

Both are actually disastrous for me but addiction is severe in the long run as greed is like a short term habit I think but it also hurts if we lose since we are overspending just to get max winnings but that is only possible if we will be lucky. This mostly happen from low budget to average gamblers who increase their bets in the hope of winning much more money but still winning could be one on a million incident.

You spoked so well mate. Addiction is a long run something but greediness comes once in a while. However both addition and greediness are almost the same but one comes first before the other. If not for greediness some gamblers won't have been addicted to gamble. Gamble is fun when winning but few gamblers gamble for profit. Although gambling for profits alone doesn't make one to be addicted. When a gambler is gambling for profits and greedy same time it makes them becomes addicted.

Yes, it means that greed is what leads gamblers to addiction or it could be the other way around. Everyone loves money, especially if they manage to get it with little effort, or without having to spend a lot of sweat like doing general work. But what they don't remember is that gambling will always remain a risky activity that can make them experience losing money in any amount according to the amount of budget they bet.

On the other hand you said that only a few gamblers come with the intention of earning? I think it's quite the opposite, the majority of gamblers are those who gamble with the intention and purpose of earning, the reason is because they think that they can get a lot of money with little effort, but it has been proven that in the end they experience a lot of bad things in their lives such as financial problems where they run out of a lot of money and even they have to sell some of their valuables or borrow from some services just to gamble, and maybe I would say that they are typical gamblers who are involved in gambling but not with the right understanding of how gambling really is.

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Quote from: 0t3p0t on June 01, 2024, 12:38:46 PM

Both are actually disastrous for me but addiction is severe in the long run as greed is like a short term habit I think but it also hurts if we lose since we are overspending just to get max winnings but that is only possible if we will be lucky. This mostly happen from low budget to average gamblers who increase their bets in the hope of winning much more money but still winning could be one on a million incident.

You spoked so well mate. Addiction is a long run something but greediness comes once in a while. However both addition and greediness are almost the same but one comes first before the other. If not for greediness some gamblers won't have been addicted to gamble. Gamble is fun when winning but few gamblers gamble for profit. Although gambling for profits alone doesn't make one to be addicted. When a gambler is gambling for profits and greedy same time it makes them becomes addicted.

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Both are actually disastrous for me but addiction is severe in the long run as greed is like a short term habit I think but it also hurts if we lose since we are overspending just to get max winnings but that is only possible if we will be lucky. This mostly happen from low budget to average gamblers who increase their bets in the hope of winning much more money but still winning could be one on a million incident.

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And usually greed and addiction go hand in hand, when a greedy person plays gambling he will definitely have an addiction, and a person who has an addiction is not far from his greedy self, so this combination is complete and cannot be separated.
This is indeed inseparable because it must always exist in humans when experiencing one of them in gambling.

To overcome this, namely with awareness of the risks and awareness of the principle of responsible gambling will be much better, because without having it we will not be able to feel that we have limits in gambling greed will always flow in us if we do not have arrangements to limit it, For example, when we get a win and our balance increases 100% of the total deposit made, or half of it, as a limit to stop gambling, it will limit us from playing more impulsively and greedily, in fact there are still many people who don't even limit it so they think that when gambling they will multiply their money thousands of presses from the deposit they made.

One is a result of the other. Unfortunately, informing them about the principle of responsible gambling isn't going to cut it; don't you think they already know it? Increasing awareness isn't going to help them. They're just in denial: "I'm not addicted; I can stop whenever I want," but that couldn't be further from the truth. Trust me, I've heard it quite a few times myself. The first step is to acknowledge that you're addicted. Those who suffer rarely accept it as the truth, and they'll eventually score a large win, making them even greedier and thirstier for more. Gambling addiction and greed are a vicious cycle.

A big win will also make someone lose more, after getting a big win someone will be more confident that he will get a big win from the bet he made, the more here they will be more greedy and more think that they can get what they want from gambling, I think everything has a correlation with what is being talked about because it will get greedy and addiction which has a close relationship with the case of someone getting disastrous from gambling.

Yes most people deny that they are greedy and addicted, they refuse to admit it and feel that they can control themselves, but what we see is that they use most of their money to gamble and tell the truth after everything is used up in gambling, I found cases like this, when someone feels that they still have money they are arrogant and do not accept the facts, but when the money runs out they tell the truth that they regret having gambled their money in gambling without restrictions, but when they have the money back they make the same mistake.

That first major win is bait, not wealth. It makes you feel like a wizard, not just a lucky schmuck, on your own supply. Unfortunately, casinos aren't charities. They're meant to make, not provide. Every game and dice roll is rigged for them, not you. You may get lucky, but it eventually runs out. If you're not careful, your first big win can turn into a massive loss, regret, and empty wallets

Greed and addiction lead to chasing losses, betting money you don't have, and wrecking your life. Be smart when gambling. Set limitations, follow them, and remember it's a game. Don't get caught up in the rush, don't try to win back what you lost, and don't bet more than you can afford

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Quote from: Gheka on June 01, 2024, 06:50:56 AM

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Geed is far way more dangerous than addiction. Then imagine greed plus addiction. Any gambler who possess these two detrimental characters will never be successful in gambling. The consequences of greed is that it make us want to stake high amount and we may end up putting all our bankroll at ones for a big cash out which at the end may be lucky to win or may end up losing all out money in one bet. The greed can limit us from making inclined decisions. IN a scenario where we are already making wins in gambling of which it is satisfying to quit at that moment but we choose to continue, of course that is greed and there are higher chances of us losing both our profits and capital in the bet again.

Sometimes we possesses these characteristics because we have a target or pending bills to pay. My advice is that relying on gambling to settle debts, start business and do other important things in life is not proper. Gambling wins or profits is to support us financially but shouldn't be a major source of income in this life.

Although greed empties our budget after betting, when we are awake to calculate the nature and problem, nature still points the arrow down to serious addiction because no matter how greedy we are, without addiction there will be no place for us to actualize that greed and even when greed is free to play but in a non-addictive situation, it's still a safe game. It sounds dangerous, but the safety is still higher than an addict, they build sustainability while greed builds transience, besides, addiction fuels greed, instead of vice versa.

This means that greed and addiction cannot be separated because they will always go hand in hand, and also greed will always be there if the activity has elements that can make someone addicted to get the same results as the wins they have previously gotten, and one of the things that triggers I think the occurrence of addiction in gambling is clear because the object of winning is money which everyone will always need money and because this also ultimately triggers greed to get bigger amounts.

So it is clear that in my opinion the beginning of greed is because this activity has elements that can make someone addicted so they want more rewards, even though it is very clear that this is a wrong action and mindset, but yes, that is how it is when someone is involved in gambling without having a pattern. rational thinking and point of view which ultimately leads them to various harmful actions, because it is clear that for example someone is able to think rationally before
they are involved in gambling and understand how gambling really is then
I don't think they will end up with addiction and greed, so it depends on the person whether he can be a responsible gambler or not.

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Quote from: Dailyscript on June 01, 2024, 02:23:49 AM

Geed is far way more dangerous than addiction. Then imagine greed plus addiction. Any gambler who possess these two detrimental characters will never be successful in gambling. The consequences of greed is that it make us want to stake high amount and we may end up putting all our bankroll at ones for a big cash out which at the end may be lucky to win or may end up losing all out money in one bet. The greed can limit us from making inclined decisions. IN a scenario where we are already making wins in gambling of which it is satisfying to quit at that moment but we choose to continue, of course that is greed and there are higher chances of us losing both our profits and capital in the bet again.

Sometimes we possesses these characteristics because we have a target or pending bills to pay. My advice is that relying on gambling to settle debts, start business and do other important things in life is not proper. Gambling wins or profits is to support us financially but shouldn't be a major source of income in this life.

Although greed empties our budget after betting, when we are awake to calculate the nature and problem, nature still points the arrow down to serious addiction because no matter how greedy we are, without addiction there will be no place for us to actualize that greed and even when greed is free to play but in a non-addictive situation, it's still a safe game. It sounds dangerous, but the safety is still higher than an addict, they build sustainability while greed builds transience, besides, addiction fuels greed, instead of vice versa.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 01, 2024, 02:33:38 AM

Quote from: topbitcoin on June 01, 2024, 01:47:52 AM

And usually greed and addiction go hand in hand, when a greedy person plays gambling he will definitely have an addiction, and a person who has an addiction is not far from his greedy self, so this combination is complete and cannot be separated.
This is indeed inseparable because it must always exist in humans when experiencing one of them in gambling.

To overcome this, namely with awareness of the risks and awareness of the principle of responsible gambling will be much better, because without having it we will not be able to feel that we have limits in gambling greed will always flow in us if we do not have arrangements to limit it, For example, when we get a win and our balance increases 100% of the total deposit made, or half of it, as a limit to stop gambling, it will limit us from playing more impulsively and greedily, in fact there are still many people who don't even limit it so they think that when gambling they will multiply their money thousands of presses from the deposit they made.

One is a result of the other. Unfortunately, informing them about the principle of responsible gambling isn't going to cut it; don't you think they already know it? Increasing awareness isn't going to help them. They're just in denial: "I'm not addicted; I can stop whenever I want," but that couldn't be further from the truth. Trust me, I've heard it quite a few times myself. The first step is to acknowledge that you're addicted. Those who suffer rarely accept it as the truth, and they'll eventually score a large win, making them even greedier and thirstier for more. Gambling addiction and greed are a vicious cycle.

A big win will also make someone lose more, after getting a big win someone will be more confident that he will get a big win from the bet he made, the more here they will be more greedy and more think that they can get what they want from gambling, I think everything has a correlation with what is being talked about because it will get greedy and addiction which has a close relationship with the case of someone getting disastrous from gambling.

Yes most people deny that they are greedy and addicted, they refuse to admit it and feel that they can control themselves, but what we see is that they use most of their money to gamble and tell the truth after everything is used up in gambling, I found cases like this, when someone feels that they still have money they are arrogant and do not accept the facts, but when the money runs out they tell the truth that they regret having gambled their money in gambling without restrictions, but when they have the money back they make the same mistake.

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