Topic: Greediness or Addiction -which one is more disastrous? - page 6. (Read 1334 times)

What is the difference between greed and frugality? These qualities are practically no different, only in their emotional coloring, that is, give a negative connotation to greed, and a positive connotation to frugality. In fact, this is the same quality, but depending on the situation it brings either harm or benefit. In your case, greed transforms into wastefulness.

How is gaming addiction different from strong passion? These two qualities are also no different.

These reasons most often act together, enhancing the effect.

Stimulants such as anticipation (the expectation that a big win will soon appear), joy and pleasure from winning (a positive stimulus that encourages repeated repetition), disappointment and sadness from losing (a negative stimulus that one does not want to repeat) also appear here.

Really? Will long-term dependence with small bets accumulate into large losses over many years?

When comparing which is worse, greed or gambling addiction, you lose sight of the fact that these qualities are almost equally valuable in terms of harmfulness.


Oh, if only we could choose our vices.

Well, greediness is not the only thing that exists or is actually experienced in gambling. No matter where we are in relation to money, greediness is always around. It's really up to us if we keep it in our thoughts and adopt it to apply to our character.

The only thing that is usually really useful is that there is too much greed in the gambling category because most of the gambling players are small, hoping that they will get a lucky jackpot that they think will happen to them who also got the jackpot prize in gambling instant wealth. That's it.

Greediness will not dangerous if someone can manage his emotion, especially when he wins some gambling games and thinks to stops playing gambling immediately before everything is change. But most people falls to their greediness and not thinks about stops from playing gambling instead keeps playing gambling because they wants to chase the next bigger wins. That makes them greedy because they trying to play for more to gets more wins but the reality is many of them lose their money along with their wins before.

Yes, we will gets much better if we can control ourselves and when we wins and can stops from playing gambling immediately, we can withdraw the money and enjoy the wins moment. Many people becomes addicted to gambling without they knows and that's because they greed before and trying to chase their wins. They don't knows that when they greed, that just makes them keeps playing gambling without stops and they will comes back in the next days. If they comes back too often, that can triggers them to becomes addicted to gambling.

One is a result of the other. Unfortunately, informing them about the principle of responsible gambling isn't going to cut it; don't you think they already know it? Increasing awareness isn't going to help them. They're just in denial: "I'm not addicted; I can stop whenever I want," but that couldn't be further from the truth. Trust me, I've heard it quite a few times myself. The first step is to acknowledge that you're addicted. Those who suffer rarely accept it as the truth, and they'll eventually score a large win, making them even greedier and thirstier for more. Gambling addiction and greed are a vicious cycle.

Geed is far way more dangerous than addiction. Then imagine greed plus addiction. Any gambler who possess these two detrimental characters will never be successful in gambling. The consequences of greed is that it make us want to stake high amount and we may end up putting all our bankroll at ones for a big cash out which at the end may be lucky to win or may end up losing all out money in one bet. The greed can limit us from making inclined decisions. IN a scenario where we are already making wins in gambling of which it is satisfying to quit at that moment but we choose to continue, of course that is greed and there are higher chances of us losing both our profits and capital in the bet again.

Sometimes we possesses these characteristics because we have a target or pending bills to pay. My advice is that relying on gambling to settle debts, start business and do other important things in life is not proper. Gambling wins or profits is to support us financially but shouldn't be a major source of income in this life.

It is true, someone who gambles will experience both of these things, especially if they have the wrong perception of gambling. With those who are addicted, of course they won't stop until they get what they want, namely a big win, even though they have won, they will feel less satisfied and go back to gambling, so this is where they will feel greed and will lead them to greater destruction. It's true what you said, these two things can bring bad luck to someone who gambles.
Greed may only be felt by those who gamble with the aim of making money by gambling, whereas not everyone gambles with that aim. Because there are some wise gamblers who can control themselves and limit their gambling activities. But even that doesn't cover up addiction or greed because every once in a while they might feel that.

I will say that both are harmful. We can't determine which harms more. But yes, if a person has one of the mentioned qualities, then it will do the damage on the same level. In both greediness and addiction, there is a huge chance that you might lose your money. Specifically if you are gambling with these qualities. Hence, rather than comparing the two, it would be better to avoid these qualities in yourself as a gambler. Just set small targets and gamble until you achieve them.

And usually greed and addiction go hand in hand, when a greedy person plays gambling he will definitely have an addiction, and a person who has an addiction is not far from his greedy self, so this combination is complete and cannot be separated.
This is indeed inseparable because it must always exist in humans when experiencing one of them in gambling.

To overcome this, namely with awareness of the risks and awareness of the principle of responsible gambling will be much better, because without having it we will not be able to feel that we have limits in gambling greed will always flow in us if we do not have arrangements to limit it, For example, when we get a win and our balance increases 100% of the total deposit made, or half of it, as a limit to stop gambling, it will limit us from playing more impulsively and greedily, in fact there are still many people who don't even limit it so they think that when gambling they will multiply their money thousands of presses from the deposit they made.

Good point, greed definitely leads to addiction! Greed is also a form of addiction if you think about it. Addicted to the accumulation or "married to the money" they say. But lets say they hit that big stroke of luck, now they are married to the money for real. If their greed leads to financial ruin, welp, hate to say it but they married the game  aka the gambling in the form of casinos, slots, craps, you name it.

I believe that these two are correlated and walk side by side. You win a few games, you're becoming confident that you've found a way to earn some quick and easy cash, your greed exceeds any logical barrier, and you keep gambling more and more. You're slowly becoming addicted due to your thirst for more. Eventually, you start losing more and more money; you cannot stop gambling in an effort to recoup your losses and dig further down the rabbit hole. Ultimately, you're stuck in a loop—a vicious cycle you cannot escape unless you put an end to it.

These two notions go side by side; one is required by the other, and vice versa. At least that's how I see things.

I think that one of the most common reasons that causes Gambling addiction is greediness itself. In many cases, a gambler falls into addiction because he gets so greedy that he always wants to win more and more and tries to gamble everytime even though he wins some money but he is never satisfied of the results.

Being an addicted gambler is already a terrible thing to live with and uncontrollable, let along being both addicted and greedy.

I think that I can't pick any side from these two cases because they are both terrible in their own way, being a greedy gambler would definitely make you fall into addiction anyways.

Well, I don't think it's every addicted gambler that gets greedy; some gamblers might be extremely addicted to gambling but may not show any form of greedy attitude in them. Gambling addiction is already a big problem for a gambler to handle, If the gambler is also a greedy person at the same time, then he is really in a big mess. I know how greed has actually dealt with some people in crypto trading, and if I should relate it to gambling, I would say it's not good at all for a gambler to be greedy. 

Indeed. As they say we can get born with an existing greedy nature but I haven't heard yet that addiction is also included with it. All the times, addiction only came out for a long term of doing an activity or consuming something. A losing result is bad but if we are like that (a responsible gambler), we can only lose less and it's not going to be long for us to recover and go back to having a positive mindset again.

For the addicted gamblers, even though their outcome is good in gambling, it will only revert to bad in a short period of time because they will continue playing or they will re-deposit again if they do a withdrawal earlier.

Once the player already experienced wins they will chase more for it, sometimes they already get what they want but due to greediness they want to win more, so they keep playing and hoping to win a large set of numbers again in their multiplier but the opposite happens they didnt win instead they keep losing and lose their gains from the previous games, and reason to lose. After their game and making another set of it they keep hitting bad luck instead and hoping to get at least what they have achieved from their previous games that's the time they are now getting addicted for chasing a large amount of money. Playing without setting your limitation and budget might lead to addiction.

Yep I'm sure what you said is indeed a fact because indeed two years ago I also experienced the problem of addiction in myself which is like what you said that when the result at the end of the session wins then at that time the feeling arises to continue the session by betting a higher amount because we must understand that when someone is in that situation then various temptations will come to mind which all encourage us to return to betting higher amounts in order to get a bigger win and obviously this is greed.

And yes like what you said about your friend where he bet a small amount but when it turned out that the result won then he would feel sorry for not betting a higher amount, but one thing we must understand that even if for example we bet with a higher amount maybe the result will be different or maybe it turns out that we lose, so that's why it's important for a gambler to have a sense of gratitude in himself by accepting whatever the result at the end of the session, if indeed the amount of our victory is small then it is indeed the amount of our luck on that day. So the point is that the point that we must pay attention to in the context of greed is that we will never be able to get a real winning amount if we always apply greed, because we definitely want to continue until we finally lose everything.

Well said. I believe Addiction opens the gamblers to greediness, over expectancy, and other bad gambling habits. When one is addicted he can devise any means to satisfy his urge and quest, getting addicted is very bad and hard to cut off from, one can learn from a mistake he made from one game, immediately stop being greedy after then as some of us have been greedy and stop it but when it comes to Addiction that is not the case, it affect you emotionally, financially, and even in Relationships.

I would say, we prevent getting addicted by all means, this is the ultimate source of bad habits which never leads to happy ending.

And I believe that greediness can be stopped as we realized that we are doing wrong but addiction seems to be a big challenge for everyone that hardly changes. The more we chase losses, the more we become addicted, and the more it becomes disastrous to our lives.
Maybe, if we can stop our greediness to the fullest, I believe this will end everything we suffer which I believe it is the main reason for addiction. Having these things, gambling is not enjoyable anymore and this brings us to the worst scenario as we are about to compromise our lives mentally and financially.

Honestly, it is too lucky to see a gambler who is addicted but not greedy or vice versa.  

I do not agree with this, addiction could make you fall into a pit, and being too greedy could turn into addiction as well, but greed itself is not dangerous at default because it can be stopped. You could be greedy once, and learn your mistake and never be that greedy again, in that case greed isn't bad because it teaches you how to do better.

I personally believe that we are going to end up with something much better one way or another, and should definitely consider how we can get better from it. Addiction on the other hand is not something that would be all that great, we should consider how we could get better and how we could move forward with it, it shouldn't be really all that complicated because addiction is much worse.

 I'm afraid when it comes to money issues, this two; greed and addiction walk side by side. Gamblers believe that once they stake a game and they win it, there's the possibility of staking higher and winning bigger and thats where greed comes in. I've got a friend who stakes little money on a game, and if he wins, begins to regret not putting more money in it and as such isn't content with the amount won and will want to keep playing. Such kinds of peeps don't get satisfied easily and even though they are excited for the temporal huge win, they get the urge to keep playing to multiply their winnings.

Just like you, I would also say that addiction is more disastrous than greed. When someone is addicted to gambling, they will no longer think about how they gamble, because what they need most is to gamble and gamble until their desires are fulfilled. Addiction has reached an advanced level and treatment usually requires professionals, because it has a direct impact on the thoughts and actions of gamblers. And therefore addiction is more disastrous because it is a complex problem and addicted gamblers usually do not feel that what they are doing is wrong.