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Topic: Grin Observer - GRN/BTC - Price Movement and Discussion - page 52. (Read 19800 times)

legendary
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Can I be honest?  

I love the tech but think the infinite emissions policy is broken.

And the dev team haven’t put themselves in a strong position by announcing there will be regular hard forks.  

So soon enough someone will hard fork it with a 4 year halvening cycle.  

Which begs the question - what happens to Grin with a contentious hard fork?



It is not broken. Infinite supply assures better and fairer distribution because it discourages hoarding, which would also make the market discover a fair price for each grin.

It might not be perfect, but what coin has a perfect distribution?

The rest of your post is useless speculation.

Grin is designed to discourage hoarding by having an aggressive inflation schedule.  The risk here of course is that supply exceeds demand during bear markets.  

Basic economics teaches us that the price is driven towards zero when supply exceeds demand.  

Of course the price is unlikely to ever reach zero, simply because there will be demand just at a much lower price.  All of us would be happy to buy 1 million Grin for $1, given how powerful the underlying tech is.  Grin *will* have buyers of last resort, so long as the tech is not fundamentally broken.  

It just means that the price will likely stay depressed over the long term and could it make more volatile.  It's a funny sort of analysis to say that Grin is likely to be more used as a currency because it is more volatile, than say Bitcoin.  

No, the price might stay depressed on its first years of distribution. However, as the supply grows, the percentage of new supply versus present supply goes down, price goes up. Assuming the demand grows to bitcoin level which is the goal.

Also, how would Grin be more volatile? More coins in circulation, more supply, more liquidity, less volatility.

The ticker used by exchanges is GRIN not GRN.
newbie
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Almost there ....

If it does go above that .00385 local high, it might kick off a fair bit higher.  Watching with interest....  It's been worth market-making (in my tiny way) so far.  It's such an unknown quantity, I am more interested in not having expensive bags than accumulating massively.

I haven't explored BitForex but you look like you are at least using its chart, so d'you know if you can check trading stats on Bitforex - like Polo's trading analysis (to show average cost)?

Bitforex is one of those exchanges that fake volume. It's visible in some charts like the one of Platincoin (just randomly looked one up).

Of course that's the most amateurish way to fake volume and it's not visible in other charts like that but please don't support exchanges doing this.

I made it my rule to never use exchanges that fake volume or have done so in the past (and may just hide it better now). This damages everyone - the users, other exchanges and the community as a whole.

Edit: Hotbit is faking volume even more blatantly than Bitforex. Please.

OK - that's news to me, I will research it - do feel free to suggest a better one for Grin?

(edited)

I'd feel bad to recommend any exchanges after talking bad about others. That might seem like I have some vested interest or something. I just don't like exchanges faking volume. It results in higher average buy prices, lower average sell prices (mainly for people new to the exchange), it distorts the exchange rankings (drawing newbies to these exchanges where they don't really have the reported liquidity ) and gives crypto overall a bad reputation.

So I just advise against using exchanges I know are faking volume. Unfortunately there is a lot of them listed on Coinmarketcap and Coingecko alike. qBTC also falls into that category by the way.

Other than that feel free to trade anywhere you like unless you notice something fishy yourself - it's not like I know all the exchanges where Grin is listed Smiley
legendary
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OK - that's news to me, I will research it - do feel free to suggest a better one for Grin?


To buy? TradeOgre is fair. Simple. Small. Fees very reasonable.

Thanks, saw TradeOgre mentioned before when I was looking, but having not traded before on any exchange listing Grin right now, I plumped for BitForex.

BitForex 'seems' ok - I didn't spot anything too fishy, to be frank.  But a recommendation from a fellow WO junkie is always a little easier to follow Wink

hero member
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis

OK - that's news to me, I will research it - do feel free to suggest a better one for Grin?


To buy? TradeOgre is fair. Simple. Small. Fees very reasonable.
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 1748
Almost there ....

If it does go above that .00385 local high, it might kick off a fair bit higher.  Watching with interest....  It's been worth market-making (in my tiny way) so far.  It's such an unknown quantity, I am more interested in not having expensive bags than accumulating massively.

I haven't explored BitForex but you look like you are at least using its chart, so d'you know if you can check trading stats on Bitforex - like Polo's trading analysis (to show average cost)?

Bitforex is one of those exchanges that fake volume. It's visible in some charts like the one of Platincoin (just randomly looked one up).

Of course that's the most amateurish way to fake volume and it's not visible in other charts like that but please don't support exchanges doing this.

I made it my rule to never use exchanges that fake volume or have done so in the past (and may just hide it better now). This damages everyone - the users, other exchanges and the community as a whole.

Edit: Hotbit is faking volume even more blatantly than Bitforex. Please.

OK - that's news to me, I will research it - do feel free to suggest a better one for Grin?

(edited)
hero member
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
Mate I really don't follow. Undecided
newbie
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Edit: Hotbit is faking volume even more blatantly than Bitforex. Please.

Maybe not on this occasion. Coingecko doesn't think so either.
Other than that, sure Hotbit is an exchange to avoid in general.

Arbitrage with TradeOgre looks attractive  Roll Eyes

What do you mean by "not on this occasion" and "Coingecko doesn't think so"?

Looking at any chart on Hotbit (also the Grin ones) it's pretty obvious. All volume candles are the same regardless of daytime or price action. It also has that typical "executed orders appearing out of nowhere" syndrome.
hero member
Activity: 1204
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
Edit: Hotbit is faking volume even more blatantly than Bitforex. Please.

Maybe not on this occasion. Coingecko doesn't think so either.
Other than that, sure Hotbit is an exchange to avoid in general.

Arbitrage with TradeOgre looks attractive  Roll Eyes
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 6
Almost there ....

If it does go above that .00385 local high, it might kick off a fair bit higher.  Watching with interest....  It's been worth market-making (in my tiny way) so far.  It's such an unknown quantity, I am more interested in not having expensive bags than accumulating massively.

I haven't explored BitForex but you look like you are at least using its chart, so d'you know if you can check trading stats on Bitforex - like Polo's trading analysis (to show average cost)?

Bitforex is one of those exchanges that fake volume. It's visible in some charts like the one of Platincoin (just randomly looked one up).

Of course that's the most amateurish way to fake volume and it's not visible in other charts like that but please don't support exchanges doing this.

I made it my rule to never use exchanges that fake volume or have done so in the past (and may just hide it better now). This damages everyone - the users, other exchanges and the community as a whole.

Edit: Hotbit is faking volume even more blatantly than Bitforex. Please.
hero member
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
Listed on CMC:

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/grin/

Don't know about Bitforex, but Hotbit is cool. Rip off withdraw fees though.
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 1748
Almost there ....

If it does go above that .00385 local high, it might kick off a fair bit higher.  Watching with interest....  It's been worth market-making (in my tiny way) so far.  It's such an unknown quantity, I am more interested in not having expensive bags than accumulating massively.

I haven't explored BitForex but you look like you are at least using its chart, so d'you know if you can check trading stats on Bitforex - like Polo's trading analysis (to show average cost)?
hero member
Activity: 1204
Merit: 755
Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
Where master? Can I come? I'll be good. Promise. Grin




legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
Almost there ....
legendary
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Shitcoin Minimalist
This is overbought as fuck for an coin who is that inflationary

Welcome to the magical land of shitcoins!
full member
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This is overbought as fuck for an coin who is that inflationary
legendary
Activity: 1442
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
Looks like we have consolidated and are getting to smash upwards again.

hero member
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
Tic toc, the Grin Sun in the Land of the Rising Sun is coming. Cool

~1h
newbie
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And no windows wallet  https://www.coingecko.com/buzz/grin-frequently-asked-questions yet do people already know what they are doing?
hero member
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
Is it Monday morning in China? Lips sealed

hero member
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
Can anyone tell me what the fuck is grin ,and why you think it is worth to buy?



It's not a matter of what we think. Wink
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