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Topic: Grin Observer - GRN/BTC - Price Movement and Discussion - page 48. (Read 19694 times)

legendary
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Here’s what you need to know about security token offerings (STOs)

They're similar to ICOs, but they will abide by all regulations. The hope is to tokenize shares of stock, bonds, etc.
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
I didn't even know what the fuck an STO was, i'm so far behind the curve!
legendary
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Shitcoin Minimalist
Ravencoin is dependent on others using it as a platform for it to have value (like ETH).  I don’t know any projects building on Raven and don’t know the incentives for doing so. Saying it is a Bitcoin fork doesn’t mean much.

Grin is a currency - it’s not dependent on other projects.  

Totally different imho.  

Raven depends on people storing assets on the chain. The value is purely speculative at this point. There's hope that Ravencoin will be the Ethereum of STOs. Also, Patrick Byrne (overstock.com CEO) has been shilling Raven, overstock.com's Medici Ventures funds most of Raven's development, and there's speculation that the Tzero STO trading platform (mostly owned by overstock.com) will use the Ravencoin blockchain.

It's a shitcoin for now, but buying some would be a smart bet if you believe that the STO boom, that many are predicting, will come. Some speculate that as the last bull run was fueled by ICOs, the next will be fueled by STOs.

That's getting OT, so I'll try to tie that into this thread. As speculative assets go, RVN is a pioneering coin in a new space. Grin is stepping into an already-crowded space and doesn't offer much over XMR, IMO. With that said, some also predict that privacy coins will be a driver of the next big bull run. Even if Grin is playing 2nd or 3rd fiddle in the privacy space in a few years, it would still go parabolic in a privacy coin boom.


*I hold positions in RVN, GRIN, and XMR.
legendary
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full member
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What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger
Pump & Dump?

maybe after Binance listing

There is no one to pay the $2 million listing fee, so will take much longer. 

Grin will pay the same listing fee as Ravencoin paid.  Cool


I don't know what listing fee Ravencoin might have paid, but for community driven projects which take a lot of attention, it makes sense for exchanges to list them for free or with big discounts.
When the community is big, the exchanges want to grab customers from that community.
I don't think anyone ever paid for BTC or ETH to be listed anywhere!
member
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Still a manic miner
Pump & Dump?

maybe after Binance listing

There is no one to pay the $2 million listing fee, so will take much longer. 

Grin will pay the same listing fee as Ravencoin paid.  Cool
full member
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What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger
will/can people do that kind of thing with grin?

Value your privacy and fungibility? Get the hat !




Alice? Nani?
hero member
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
If miners are selling (and most industrial miners have to sell) then US$432,000 is required every day to keep the price at its present level.  This is what people are mindful of.  

Not only that, exchanges 'force' not so experienced miners to withdraw their minted coins to an exchange.
Taking also into account the 'difficulty' in handling Grin, as well as the shift to wallet listeners that require port forwarding to get your funds (but not to send them), it can only mean one thing until the dust has settled down.

Happy New Year!

legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
If miners are selling (and most industrial miners have to sell) then US$432,000 is required every day to keep the price at its present level.  This is what people are mindful of. 
hero member
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Hmmm the total supply is not even 2M there hence i believe the coins might be easier to be push upward than downward especially holders will hold and deduct the overall supply from the market

But i have one issue there, if people are hoping for getting regulations and transparency, wouldn't GRN moves backward here?
It has no address, no transactions, wipe transactions after it is unnecessary
Is that really good there?
I agree that it is scale-able and solve problems like big blocks issue
But in the long run, if trading volume goes off, i believe the price would eventually collapse tho 
legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
Decred Listing Fee: 0 BNB


Decred listing fee - first charitable donation by Binance Foundation?
legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
will/can people do that kind of thing with grin?

Value your privacy and fungibility? Get the hat !


legendary
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An executed order by definition does not add liquidity, it takes liquidity off the books.

However, they also provide the liquidity in the orderbook. In the creation of the market, it might be true that the volumes are fake because the market makers are trading largely with each other's orders depending where the market is going.

We cannot expect that only users to start the market.

hero member
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Pump & Dump?

maybe after Binance listing

There is no one to pay the $2 million listing fee, so will take much longer.  

They could listing a coin without the fee payment. I am not sure if Decred has paid anything to be listed.

https://support.binance.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018572891-Binance-Will-List-Decred-DCR-on-2018-10-24
Fellow Binancians,

Binance will open trading for DCR/BNB and DCR/BTC trading pairs at 2018/10/24 04:00 AM (UTC). Users can now start depositing DCR in preparation for trading.

Decred Listing Fee: 0 BNB
legendary
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Be a bank
you can buy all sorts of plastic stuff that says ravencoin on it with rvn https://www.ravencoin.shop/
and there's games https://www.ravencointalk.org/post/luckygames-provably-fair-ravencoin-online-casino-9888899?trail=20#13
meh seems to be it for now
#dyor no idea if these are rip offs or not

will/can people do that kind of thing with grin?
legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
Pump & Dump?

maybe after Binance listing

There is no one to pay the $2 million listing fee, so will take much longer. 
legendary
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Merit: 2174
Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
Ravencoin is dependent on others using it as a platform for it to have value (like ETH).  I don’t know any projects building on Raven and don’t know the incentives for doing so. Saying it is a Bitcoin fork doesn’t mean much.

Grin is a currency - it’s not dependent on other projects. 

Totally different imho.  
hero member
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
Pump & Dump?
maybe after Binance listing

Funny you should say that.
Combined with the new year, would make an excellent party. Grin



No evidence of course, just feeling dope.
Either way, it won't be too long I imagine.
jr. member
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Beam has 20% Dev tax IIRC.
That is why many people are choosing Grin instead of Beam because this makes Beam quite centralized and nobody wants centralization here, right?



It is very scammy to pay %20 of your mining rewards. Actually sounds a lot like a ponzi scheme. You work to make the devs rich.

Most bitcoin people don't like to get taxed neither. Then why should we switch from one shit currency which the govs tax (FIAT) to another shitcoin Beam where your income gets taxed instantly by %20? No thanks, fuck Beam and fuck its devs.

Beam can suck my fat cock, those greedy fucking jews. NEVER SUPPORT A COIN WITH A FOUNDERS TAX< THIS IS BULLLLLSHIT.
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