Topic: [Group buy] Avalon chips Escrow John K / Please check refund list until Sunday - page 21. (Read 50958 times)
September 06, 2013, 12:09:35 PM
If we get more then 50%(in chip) that want a refund marto wil request for a refund.
September 06, 2013, 05:31:31 AM
I would like a refund too. And after a little wait we can buy the same chips for discounted price. So a refund doesn't necessarily mean less HEX sales, perhaps even more in the long run..?
September 06, 2013, 05:27:06 AM
@Marto74 would you be kind enough to tell us what you think about this...
#Case no.1: there is no point of waiting any further when we are well aware of Yifu and his legendary team shipping chips (only GOD knows).
#Case no.2 (meanwhile): still other Group Buy owners are filling up refund form (I heard Sebastian has been refunded for his batch from AM) which shifts our position upwards.
so are you planning to wait some more time like 2-3 weeks to see if they ship out Batch 1 Chips??
#Case no.1: there is no point of waiting any further when we are well aware of Yifu and his legendary team shipping chips (only GOD knows).
#Case no.2 (meanwhile): still other Group Buy owners are filling up refund form (I heard Sebastian has been refunded for his batch from AM) which shifts our position upwards.
so are you planning to wait some more time like 2-3 weeks to see if they ship out Batch 1 Chips??
September 06, 2013, 03:20:42 AM
there is no reason for keeping those chips except if you are an assembler and have buyed material ...
September 05, 2013, 05:04:46 PM
i also vote for refund (http://bitcoindifficulty.com)
September 05, 2013, 03:35:23 PM
Sebastian received refund from Avalon and already sent it to customers, fast and clean! Lets think again is the waiting is right strategy at moment...
i vote for a refund .... if some one is interested in my chips ... im selling em for a good prices ... 32 ...
PM ...
September 05, 2013, 11:32:34 AM
What about the first batch. Will it be delivered soon?
best regards,
ilpirata79
best regards,
ilpirata79
September 05, 2013, 10:37:26 AM
Sebastian received refund from Avalon and already sent it to customers, fast and clean! Lets think again is the waiting is right strategy at moment...
September 03, 2013, 02:17:06 PM
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I sold 64 of my 1108 chips to Strannik http://bitcoinbg.eu/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=78 link to trade offer http://bitcoinbg.eu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=241 buyer BTC address is 1EMwTpfzsR6xyYBrMB7o4T2bM5pKbeVzFN
I sold 32 of my 1108 chips to crab http://bitcoinbg.eu/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=207 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=146986 link to trade offer http://bitcoinbg.eu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=241 buyer BTC address is 18h6cnCNQAPG2jfniNPav3E6kCRRPc66cC
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September 02, 2013, 07:43:26 PM
If on 16-th of September 06:00 EET (GMT+2) there is not @ least shipping info I'll ask everybody in the group to vote with signed message to go for refund or not. But @the present state about 6500 chip orders , become miner boards orders so for now most of the group voted with their wallets to go for the chips.
I think that most probably the refund if any will be done with the second batch and 1-st batch will be delivered, combining users with different wishes between both batches .
But It is 2 weeks early for that
Is there any kind of "refund window" and when it closes? I think that most probably the refund if any will be done with the second batch and 1-st batch will be delivered, combining users with different wishes between both batches .
But It is 2 weeks early for that
September 02, 2013, 07:07:43 PM
Also I am planning to have you ship my chip order directly to me and have not heard word of setting up a payment option or shipping address. I think I PMed you once with an address but need to edit the address now. I am moving and will be hosting Baby Jets and Terrahashes while I build with the chips being sent to you.
Thanks for the hard work marto74
Thanks for the hard work marto74
September 02, 2013, 04:25:15 AM
Hello marto74,
i sent you a mail regarding chips which will probably be sent on on wednesday. I just want you confirmation, that if i dont refund them and let them ship to your location, that you can put them together in a short time. If so i would start to set the Order immediatly and pay for it.
If you think there will be a big delay (more than one week after receiving the chips ?), i need to think about a refund. (I dont hope so).
Regards
i sent you a mail regarding chips which will probably be sent on on wednesday. I just want you confirmation, that if i dont refund them and let them ship to your location, that you can put them together in a short time. If so i would start to set the Order immediatly and pay for it.
If you think there will be a big delay (more than one week after receiving the chips ?), i need to think about a refund. (I dont hope so).
Regards
September 01, 2013, 03:36:08 PM
Other groups start process for full refund. There are groups with more then 60 days delay. With current difficulty trend any delay just killing the ROI. My suggestion is to go for refund after 2 weeks of delay there is no reason to wait more!
If on 16-th of September 06:00 EET (GMT+2) there is not @ least shipping info I'll ask everybody in the group to vote with signed message to go for refund or not. But @the present state about 6500 chip orders , become miner boards orders so for now most of the group voted with their wallets to go for the chips.I think that most probably the refund if any will be done with the second batch and 1-st batch will be delivered, combining users with different wishes between both batches .
But It is 2 weeks early for that
I for my 32 chips i ordred ... vote for refund ... as soon as possible ...
I don't understand anyone who still want to have chips which will do no ROI ... at all ... but it's not my thing to understand everybody ...
Miner builders have a different point of view, as they probably have bought some material for the assembly ... but at this point we
only ordred chips so far ... and better then getting them at the end of the year ... is a refund now as long Yifu is doing it
marto74 I hope you are in contact with zefir and sebastianJu and all the other GB organizers ... to evaluate best solutions ...
... if some one wanna buy my chips ....
order#32 chips 32 for 2.72 BTC !
I agree. I hope that we can receive a refund soon. Difficulty is increasing at a high rate :-|
September 01, 2013, 02:45:35 PM
Is it correct that marto74 purchased through the sebastianJu group buys? I saw his name on an order for batch 6 of his buys.
Sebastian is currently refunding batches 2-5 of his group buys I believe. Keeping 1 and 6 in hopes they will be delivered quickly after all of the refunds.
Well "avalon" left him no choice on batch 6 order... he can't get a refund on those dates at this time.
Sebastian is currently refunding batches 2-5 of his group buys I believe. Keeping 1 and 6 in hopes they will be delivered quickly after all of the refunds.
Well "avalon" left him no choice on batch 6 order... he can't get a refund on those dates at this time.
September 01, 2013, 10:14:08 AM
Other groups start process for full refund. There are groups with more then 60 days delay. With current difficulty trend any delay just killing the ROI. My suggestion is to go for refund after 2 weeks of delay there is no reason to wait more!
If on 16-th of September 06:00 EET (GMT+2) there is not @ least shipping info I'll ask everybody in the group to vote with signed message to go for refund or not. But @the present state about 6500 chip orders , become miner boards orders so for now most of the group voted with their wallets to go for the chips.I think that most probably the refund if any will be done with the second batch and 1-st batch will be delivered, combining users with different wishes between both batches .
But It is 2 weeks early for that
I for my 32 chips i ordred ... vote for refund ... as soon as possible ...
I don't understand anyone who still want to have chips which will do no ROI ... at all ... but it's not my thing to understand everybody ...
Miner builders have a different point of view, as they probably have bought some material for the assembly ... but at this point we
only ordred chips so far ... and better then getting them at the end of the year ... is a refund now as long Yifu is doing it
marto74 I hope you are in contact with zefir and sebastianJu and all the other GB organizers ... to evaluate best solutions ...
... if some one wanna buy my chips ....
order#32 chips 32 for 2.72 BTC !
September 01, 2013, 06:50:13 AM
I was on batch 2 with only 8 chip order. In case any of you on batch 1 want to refund, then i want to switch position to batch 1. Please reply in this thread 
Hello,
I am one of the Batch 1 members with an order of 16 chips. I already paid for 16 chips (0.085 * 16 = 1.36BTC) + 0.04BTC for the developer.
I am willing to sell my position of 16 chips to anyone with any offers greater then what I already paid (1.40BTC).
send me a PM or reply here.
Marto74 can confirm that I have paid for 16 chips in Batch 1.
Regards,
September 01, 2013, 04:57:29 AM
NEWS(LETTER)!!
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Avalon ASIC
Chips Delivery Update, September Edition
Due to events outside of our control, the delivery of chips have been delayed so far. While the situation are improving and chips are shipping, we have ultimately decided to revert our policy on no refunds and offer the option for customers to request a full refund(in bitcoin) if so desired.
The link to the request form is below, please note this only applies to orders made earlier than June 1st.
In other news, for those who decided to wait or wish to know more about delivery schedule will be glad to note we are receiving a batch of 400,000+ chips on Wednesday, with that we expect to be in good shape for meeting the upcoming deadlines of chip deliveries for orders made in June and later.
In addition, we hope to wrap up generation one, finish shipping the chips, construct the modules and build the 2 module Avalon mini, put this pre-order mess behind us in general and switch gear into 55nm production, tape out generation 3, and start work on improving chip design for generation 4. Only sell what we can produce in a day on the assembly line, and only what's in stock.
Chips Delivery Update, September Edition
Due to events outside of our control, the delivery of chips have been delayed so far. While the situation are improving and chips are shipping, we have ultimately decided to revert our policy on no refunds and offer the option for customers to request a full refund(in bitcoin) if so desired.
The link to the request form is below, please note this only applies to orders made earlier than June 1st.
In other news, for those who decided to wait or wish to know more about delivery schedule will be glad to note we are receiving a batch of 400,000+ chips on Wednesday, with that we expect to be in good shape for meeting the upcoming deadlines of chip deliveries for orders made in June and later.
In addition, we hope to wrap up generation one, finish shipping the chips, construct the modules and build the 2 module Avalon mini, put this pre-order mess behind us in general and switch gear into 55nm production, tape out generation 3, and start work on improving chip design for generation 4. Only sell what we can produce in a day on the assembly line, and only what's in stock.
August 30, 2013, 09:31:54 PM
Marto, i am fear that our batch 2 will be refunded if other group choose to refund
Let's wait and see where is this going ...For now I'm puting an order for the first batch of PCB's
Most of the components are already paid and reserved.
@the moment there is too much heat around here
Thanks for the update marto74... I am with your decision either way.
August 30, 2013, 04:30:53 PM
Other groups start process for full refund. There are groups with more then 60 days delay. With current difficulty trend any delay just killing the ROI. My suggestion is to go for refund after 2 weeks of delay there is no reason to wait more!
don't forget: if others get refunds, our chips will be delivered sooner!
Yes, but definitely no roi when you receive the miner. Refund is the best option.
August 30, 2013, 04:20:59 PM
Other groups start process for full refund. There are groups with more then 60 days delay. With current difficulty trend any delay just killing the ROI. My suggestion is to go for refund after 2 weeks of delay there is no reason to wait more!
If on 16-th of September 06:00 EET (GMT+2) there is not @ least shipping info I'll ask everybody in the group to vote with signed message to go for refund or not. But @the present state about 6500 chip orders , become miner boards orders so for now most of the group voted with their wallets to go for the chips.I think that most probably the refund if any will be done with the second batch and 1-st batch will be delivered, combining users with different wishes between both batches .
But It is 2 weeks early for that
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