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Topic: [Group buy] Avalon chips Escrow John K / Please check refund list until Sunday - page 16. (Read 51168 times)
September 16, 2013, 01:23:49 PM
September 16, 2013, 12:01:17 PM
marto74,
Unfortunately I did not pay for the chips directly to you, I bought chips via dnaleor (groupbuy) and chips from souliouz.
Therefore it is kind of difficult for me to vote, however I want my 32 chips refunded!
Please refund the 32 chips to my address below:
1a7wnM5WWa1jUjSYvGkFc4FoS3BkQ2Suy
Below are the details used on technobit.eu for payment and assembly of the bitcoin miner.
If you placed multiple orders with different bitcoin addresses, enter all of them. :
20 chips (dnaleor groupbuy): 1DKaP1CCaEFBBZFMFKHey11SULgptSSdXU
12 chips (souliouz /no34):1a7wnM5WWa1jUjSYvGkFc4FoS3BkQ2Suy
Bitcointalk username : souspeed
Unfortunately I did not pay for the chips directly to you, I bought chips via dnaleor (groupbuy) and chips from souliouz.
Therefore it is kind of difficult for me to vote, however I want my 32 chips refunded!
Please refund the 32 chips to my address below:
1a7wnM5WWa1jUjSYvGkFc4FoS3BkQ2Suy
Below are the details used on technobit.eu for payment and assembly of the bitcoin miner.
If you placed multiple orders with different bitcoin addresses, enter all of them. :
20 chips (dnaleor groupbuy): 1DKaP1CCaEFBBZFMFKHey11SULgptSSdXU
12 chips (souliouz /no34):1a7wnM5WWa1jUjSYvGkFc4FoS3BkQ2Suy
Bitcointalk username : souspeed
if needed, I'll sign messages with the group buy address, don't worry
September 16, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Well like i said, just refund the chips, hold the board and refund that one at a later date when hex16 board can be used for gen2 chips (or if another buyer wants a gen1 board) I think that would be the best solution of most people with boards ordered. For me it will mean a chip refund of around 250 euro worth of BTC which is more then I could mine from a assembled board .
This is under the assumption that chips will actually get refunded by avalon. On the Bizwoo GB. GB2 has been refunded while GB1 has been waiting far longer and still doesn't have a refund.
.This is under the assumption that chips will actually get refunded by avalon. On the Bizwoo GB. GB2 has been refunded while GB1 has been waiting far longer and still doesn't have a refund.
+1
September 16, 2013, 11:22:38 AM
GB1;nitrox;32;2.76;1FD6Mq8PR2s3iS1w33WFD8gCsEBha2b5Px;Chips
September 16, 2013, 11:13:41 AM
Refund request:
Code:
GB1,nemercry,32,2.72,13niA2BjbXg3p3g6YvUy1RCm79AwB9tzgc,R
Signed message: Code:
HFfQEpDTv/OoeBDpv0dVcjaNmcBMiwgJ4GFCwlP9KNoa6QCBj7230Wj30XMXw2piheMPxh6PspwdMDTb6kbIAb8=
September 16, 2013, 11:06:07 AM
Code:
GB1,pajak666, 36 , 3.06 , 1P4J4Kcib7WEQGxtdcjEwXsDnDJ5BYkpPy, R
Code:
HCy/7QykWCBHThA2mAsTt9cBhxjJiHhsrwlhtuJINsAD/+RyemCqIydLcWuJUJjNgjYeDdFMqPFikyzh93sbWiQ=
Marto that is so lame, you are delaying refund in every possible way.
I belive all other Group Buyers did allow their participants to take refund and they done it really quick and smooth.
you are delaying the refund for the whole time.Monday, monday came now we have to vote lol.
Riddic signed messages voting just to get some more hours, just to receive that tracking info from Avalon.
Really I didn't expected that from you.
September 16, 2013, 10:53:21 AM
Well like i said, just refund the chips, hold the board and refund that one at a later date when hex16 board can be used for gen2 chips (or if another buyer wants a gen1 board) I think that would be the best solution of most people with boards ordered. For me it will mean a chip refund of around 250 euro worth of BTC which is more then I could mine from a assembled board .
This is under the assumption that chips will actually get refunded by avalon. On the Bizwoo GB. GB2 has been refunded while GB1 has been waiting far longer and still doesn't have a refund.
.This is under the assumption that chips will actually get refunded by avalon. On the Bizwoo GB. GB2 has been refunded while GB1 has been waiting far longer and still doesn't have a refund.
September 16, 2013, 10:27:05 AM
Still i don't understand why we are forced to take the boards and chips when there are other options.
As Avalon has stated gen2 has the same footprint & pinout as the gen1 chips. As soon as those release people will want boards.
Why not just refund the chips and hold the boards for gen2? People that want gen2 chips can hold their order until the new chips are delivered. And people that don't want to the hold the board for themselves could wait for a new gen2 customer to buy a board @ technobit after which refunds can be made.
This option wouldn't hurt you in funds and could actually be of benefit since you now have boards in stock for quick assembly of gen2.
Sure, there is no garantuee all boards would be bought by new customers. But at least a good portion of this GB could get refunded eventually.
Everybody can get their chips refunded this way. I'd rather wait several months for a refund on the boards then having no chip refund at all. It beats having to wait three weeks for the boards to arrive lowering the ROI even further.
What exactly is your wish?As Avalon has stated gen2 has the same footprint & pinout as the gen1 chips. As soon as those release people will want boards.
Why not just refund the chips and hold the boards for gen2? People that want gen2 chips can hold their order until the new chips are delivered. And people that don't want to the hold the board for themselves could wait for a new gen2 customer to buy a board @ technobit after which refunds can be made.
This option wouldn't hurt you in funds and could actually be of benefit since you now have boards in stock for quick assembly of gen2.
Sure, there is no garantuee all boards would be bought by new customers. But at least a good portion of this GB could get refunded eventually.
Everybody can get their chips refunded this way. I'd rather wait several months for a refund on the boards then having no chip refund at all. It beats having to wait three weeks for the boards to arrive lowering the ROI even further.
September 16, 2013, 09:43:12 AM
Still i don't understand why we are forced to take the boards and chips when there are other options.
As Avalon has stated gen2 has the same footprint & pinout as the gen1 chips. As soon as those release people will want boards.
Why not just refund the chips and hold the boards for gen2? People that want gen2 chips can hold their order until the new chips are delivered. And people that don't want to the hold the board for themselves could wait for a new gen2 customer to buy a board @ technobit after which refunds can be made.
This option wouldn't hurt you in funds and could actually be of benefit since you now have boards in stock for quick assembly of gen2.
Sure, there is no garantuee all boards would be bought by new customers. But at least a good portion of this GB could get refunded eventually.
Everybody can get their chips refunded this way. I'd rather wait several months for a refund on the boards then having no chip refund at all. It beats having to wait three weeks for the boards to arrive lowering the ROI even further.
As Avalon has stated gen2 has the same footprint & pinout as the gen1 chips. As soon as those release people will want boards.
Why not just refund the chips and hold the boards for gen2? People that want gen2 chips can hold their order until the new chips are delivered. And people that don't want to the hold the board for themselves could wait for a new gen2 customer to buy a board @ technobit after which refunds can be made.
This option wouldn't hurt you in funds and could actually be of benefit since you now have boards in stock for quick assembly of gen2.
Sure, there is no garantuee all boards would be bought by new customers. But at least a good portion of this GB could get refunded eventually.
Everybody can get their chips refunded this way. I'd rather wait several months for a refund on the boards then having no chip refund at all. It beats having to wait three weeks for the boards to arrive lowering the ROI even further.
September 16, 2013, 08:59:20 AM
P.S.
The chips will be purchased from zefir on the original price
The chips will be purchased from zefir on the original price
September 16, 2013, 08:57:57 AM
Even with the news known that started this mess, marto ordered the PCBs. That really was a bad decision.Don't know what he was thinking. Now us people with orderded boards are basically screwed, forcing us to take the boards and chips.
Anyone know the price zefir is selling the chips? I seriously hope he doesn't get them at a reduced price without compensating us.
You are not wright.Anyone know the price zefir is selling the chips? I seriously hope he doesn't get them at a reduced price without compensating us.
The time for confirmation for the first batch of PCB's was 30 of August, everybody was free to walk out before that.
That is my statment from 28-th of August
Dear, Customers,
After populating the new double power suply design of HEX 16 in Friday, We started testing and the board is working @450 MHz .
@ the moment We are to make 72 hour burnin test. A few minor adjustments had to be made :
-New buffering algorithm in the PIC
-A few electrolyte capacitors added
We are working on CGMiner drivers for HEX16A @ the moment .
Also We are making new sample heat sinks for HEX16 in order to provide enough cooling for OC-ed boards
As far the PCB design is now tested and any changes would be only software ( firmware) We are going to place bare PCB order in Friday.
Until the moment We have paid orders for about 500 boards @ the moment and received 2500 customer chips, that have to be populated soon.
If you have placed order and did not paid it yet , please do it until Friday if you want to get in the first batch PCB's
Again this is for HEX16 design only. The K16 design is not tested in full yet so these orders are on hold for now.
DO HAVE IN MIND THAT DELIVERY OF THE AVALON QFN48 CHIPS IS UP TO AVALON!!
But in any case these chips get here we have to be prepared to populate boards ASAP
Regards: Martin
After populating the new double power suply design of HEX 16 in Friday, We started testing and the board is working @450 MHz .
@ the moment We are to make 72 hour burnin test. A few minor adjustments had to be made :
-New buffering algorithm in the PIC
-A few electrolyte capacitors added
We are working on CGMiner drivers for HEX16A @ the moment .
Also We are making new sample heat sinks for HEX16 in order to provide enough cooling for OC-ed boards
As far the PCB design is now tested and any changes would be only software ( firmware) We are going to place bare PCB order in Friday.
Until the moment We have paid orders for about 500 boards @ the moment and received 2500 customer chips, that have to be populated soon.
If you have placed order and did not paid it yet , please do it until Friday if you want to get in the first batch PCB's
Again this is for HEX16 design only. The K16 design is not tested in full yet so these orders are on hold for now.
DO HAVE IN MIND THAT DELIVERY OF THE AVALON QFN48 CHIPS IS UP TO AVALON!!
But in any case these chips get here we have to be prepared to populate boards ASAP
Regards: Martin
The messy part of this Avalon Saga was officially announced same day from Zefir
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3029465
Also after 28-th of August I have more than 100 orders for HEX16.
I do understand your anger . Believe me I'm angry to Avalon team too. I've tried to contact them many times since GB1 delivery time had come with no success.
On top of the ordered PCB's I have paid and delivered components for more than 1000 boards, and also significant amount spent on components for the failed for now Klondike project.
What I promised is that every order with me will be shiped in up to 4 weeks after delivery of Avalon chips . I'll now do it in 2 weeks.
So You are accusing me in what crime?
Peace
Martin
September 16, 2013, 08:35:49 AM
Even with the news known that started this mess, marto ordered the PCBs. That really was a bad decision.Don't know what he was thinking. Now us people with orderded boards are basically screwed, forcing us to take the boards and chips.
Anyone know the price zefir is selling the chips? I seriously hope he doesn't get them at a reduced price without compensating us.
Anyone know the price zefir is selling the chips? I seriously hope he doesn't get them at a reduced price without compensating us.
September 16, 2013, 07:56:06 AM
After running some calculations I vote for a refund 
even tough I already paid for PCBs
Signature with 19bKGxRDdQzxZCiomBQTCJdTuY9hY8MaAG
even tough I already paid for PCBsCode:
GB1,fex,48,4.2,19bKGxRDdQzxZCiomBQTCJdTuY9hY8MaAG,R
Signature with 19bKGxRDdQzxZCiomBQTCJdTuY9hY8MaAG
Code:
ICaYQSUBujFApev8mMqJvo6x07Vqmh6cS5NTzJDmKH6AkzTcrFbtGtcDP2KZUkwoVnfK6JgtdvyKlu7AUgnnO2c=
For the ordered boards they are scheduled for populating in wednesday.
So no refund there except if somebody takes your place. The needed chips for this will be bought from zefir
I'll send a message to jhon.K to do refund now.
Everybody that ordered and paid PCB's will get them no refund there.
Everybody that wants chips will get them too.
This is efective for both GB1 and GB2
So no refund there except if somebody takes your place. The needed chips for this will be bought from zefir
I'll send a message to jhon.K to do refund now.
Everybody that ordered and paid PCB's will get them no refund there.
Everybody that wants chips will get them too.
This is efective for both GB1 and GB2
Further clarification needed: I'm in GB1 and ordered three boards - will those be populated this week?
If yes:
Great!
If no:
As GB1-chips did not arrive, please REFUND my chips and keep the boards as a gift. However, please return the 30€ for shipping.
Martin
September 16, 2013, 07:55:23 AM
Why cant you refund the shippings costs of the hardware if we dont want it shipped ?
September 16, 2013, 07:51:26 AM
After running some calculations I vote for a refund even tough I already paid for PCBs
Signature with 19bKGxRDdQzxZCiomBQTCJdTuY9hY8MaAG
even tough I already paid for PCBsCode:
GB1,fex,48,4.2,19bKGxRDdQzxZCiomBQTCJdTuY9hY8MaAG,R
Signature with 19bKGxRDdQzxZCiomBQTCJdTuY9hY8MaAG
Code:
ICaYQSUBujFApev8mMqJvo6x07Vqmh6cS5NTzJDmKH6AkzTcrFbtGtcDP2KZUkwoVnfK6JgtdvyKlu7AUgnnO2c=
For the ordered boards they are scheduled for populating in wednesday.
So no refund there except if somebody takes your place. The needed chips for this will be bought from zefir
I'll send a message to jhon.K to do refund now.
Everybody that ordered and paid PCB's will get them no refund there.
Everybody that wants chips will get them too.
This is efective for both GB1 and GB2
So no refund there except if somebody takes your place. The needed chips for this will be bought from zefir
I'll send a message to jhon.K to do refund now.
Everybody that ordered and paid PCB's will get them no refund there.
Everybody that wants chips will get them too.
This is efective for both GB1 and GB2
Further clarification needed: I'm in GB1 and ordered three boards - will those be populated this week?
If yes:
Great!
If no:
As GB1-chips did not arrive, please REFUND my chips and keep the boards as a gift. However, please return the 30€ for shipping.
September 16, 2013, 07:38:00 AM
Code:
GB2, BenTuras, 400, 34, 1CbgVtZu64sBvWH5JSUfm1vMNZyTPJnJFV, R
Code:
IDW3fGVF8sddEfHiKOLFaTT17Hr/dUiCoNldIYsxLP8xvQb5TfjeEOeXVRL2b9Wbd6JQxYpEKz1bVt1esDtQGT4=
For the ordered boards they are scheduled for populating in wednesday.
So no refund there except if somebody takes your place. The needed chips for this will be bought from zefir
I'll send a message to jhon.K to do refund now.
Everybody that ordered and paid PCB's will get them no refund there.
Everybody that wants chips will get them too.
This is efective for both GB1 and GB2
Martin
September 16, 2013, 07:33:27 AM
So I'm totally confused with all this... I was expecting some clarification regarding ordered boards. Do you have all the chips needed for all the ordered boards to be populated? I'm trying to figure when I'll receive my boards (even though if I had the chance I would ask for refund for both chips and boards). Do you have in mind any other option besides refund for the boards (i.e exchanging our orders with S-boards)?
September 16, 2013, 07:19:51 AM
Hi,
John,
In order there is no shiping info from Avalon I put a vote in the group buy and more than 50% of the participants want to go for refund. Please fill in the refund form for our order ASAP and post a copy in the tread.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3165672
Best Regards : Martin
John,
In order there is no shiping info from Avalon I put a vote in the group buy and more than 50% of the participants want to go for refund. Please fill in the refund form for our order ASAP and post a copy in the tread.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3165672
Best Regards : Martin
September 16, 2013, 07:15:54 AM
Code:
GB2, BenTuras, 400, 34, 1CbgVtZu64sBvWH5JSUfm1vMNZyTPJnJFV, R
Code:
IDW3fGVF8sddEfHiKOLFaTT17Hr/dUiCoNldIYsxLP8xvQb5TfjeEOeXVRL2b9Wbd6JQxYpEKz1bVt1esDtQGT4=
For the ordered boards they are scheduled for populating in wednesday.
So no refund there except if somebody takes your place. The needed chips for this will be bought from zefir
I'll send a message to jhon.K to do refund now.
Everybody that ordered and paid PCB's will get them no refund there.
Everybody that wants chips will get them too.
This is efective for both GB1 and GB2
Martin
September 16, 2013, 07:14:25 AM
GB1 Refund requests
- SIGNED
32 ... darkfriend77 ... refund LINK
2112 ... dimomit ... refund LINK
188 ... Min€r ... refund LINK
320 ... patica ... refund LINK
1320 ... hacko.bg ... refund LINK
66 ... mbd4 ... refund LINK
48 ... fex ... refund LINK
980 ... jkminkov ... refund LINK
214 ... mitty ... refund LINK
...
...
Refund requests reached more then 50% for GB1!
Please do the appropriated steps to request a refund asap ... !
- SIGNED
32 ... darkfriend77 ... refund LINK
2112 ... dimomit ... refund LINK
188 ... Min€r ... refund LINK
320 ... patica ... refund LINK
1320 ... hacko.bg ... refund LINK
66 ... mbd4 ... refund LINK
48 ... fex ... refund LINK
980 ... jkminkov ... refund LINK
214 ... mitty ... refund LINK
...
...
Refund requests reached more then 50% for GB1!
Please do the appropriated steps to request a refund asap ... !
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