he should at least pay back the active people on this thread
yeah, seriously. if we have to wait until everybody on the list confirms i think we'll be dealing with this ad infinitum. 
Topic: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! - page 13. (Read 150659 times)
October 14, 2013, 04:05:35 PM
October 14, 2013, 03:55:59 PM
John I sent you a pretty good tip as part of this buy, can you please drop us all an update here?
October 13, 2013, 11:11:46 PM
My refund address: 1Ky1TKDV2cvHiNxE45sY4CfKyzkst8P4me
PM in just a sec.
PM in just a sec.
October 13, 2013, 08:51:20 PM
he should at least pay back the active people on this thread
October 13, 2013, 07:52:01 PM
I think it should be easy to send the minimum refund to all confirmed addresses, and then wait for additional confirmations as they occur. However, John K. holds the btc so we really need him to weigh in on all of this.
I have PM'd JohnK asking him to check in and weigh in on this thread.
scotjam
October 13, 2013, 03:59:01 PM
John K is around, he answered my pm about an unrelated escrow on Friday.
October 13, 2013, 01:36:07 PM
Any word of when John K might be back? Is he still in the process of moving or?
October 12, 2013, 08:39:34 PM
Also PM'd to (re?)confirm my address
Do we need 100% for refund? Or could it be issued to say, 75% that has confirmed it/etc and the other 25% thereafter? I'm not sure if the logistics make this impossible or risky?
Do we need 100% for refund? Or could it be issued to say, 75% that has confirmed it/etc and the other 25% thereafter? I'm not sure if the logistics make this impossible or risky?
I think it should be easy to send the minimum refund to all confirmed addresses, and then wait for additional confirmations as they occur. However, John K. holds the btc so we really need him to weigh in on all of this.
October 12, 2013, 08:38:48 PM
thanks a ton, but we really need John K to earn his money and deal with us as soon as he can
since he got paid for this, he should deal with us all directly to confirm. Not sure what he is doing but seems like we are scammed. It is half way to Oct soon
since he got paid for this, he should deal with us all directly to confirm. Not sure what he is doing but seems like we are scammed. It is half way to Oct soon
I agree. John K. has been absent for a few and it's making me a little anxious; but I've participated in other group buys that John K escrowed and never had a problem. I don't think we are scammed, if John K has announced that we received a refund.
John K. probably should confirm individually, but since he's not here now, I'm just doing what I can to A) try to move things along and B) pass the time waiting for my refund.
October 12, 2013, 06:30:57 PM
Also PM'd to (re?)confirm my address
Do we need 100% for refund? Or could it be issued to say, 75% that has confirmed it/etc and the other 25% thereafter? I'm not sure if the logistics make this impossible or risky?
Do we need 100% for refund? Or could it be issued to say, 75% that has confirmed it/etc and the other 25% thereafter? I'm not sure if the logistics make this impossible or risky?
October 12, 2013, 05:43:10 PM
I have now PM'd my info to both bigben and sent it to OP's google form.
October 12, 2013, 03:44:51 PM
thanks a ton, but we really need John K to earn his money and deal with us as soon as he can
since he got paid for this, he should deal with us all directly to confirm. Not sure what he is doing but seems like we are scammed. It is half way to Oct soon
since he got paid for this, he should deal with us all directly to confirm. Not sure what he is doing but seems like we are scammed. It is half way to Oct soon
I think most folks who have seen JohnK in action before have no doubt that our coins are safe as long as he has them.
The issue here is that there are a number of folks who have not confirmed their refund addresses. Once they have done so, it should be no problem to get JohnK to process the refunds - I for one would be happy to chase him up if we had all of the addresses.
The question is should we chase him when we can't even tell him where to send all of the coins? Are we at the stage where we draw a line in the sand and say that refunds for addresses provided and confirmed so far should be processed, and we leave the rest in JohnK's hands? Personally, I think we're getting there...
My vote is for the following procedure:
1) PM all users with outstanding refund addresses, alerting them that they only have [48 hours?] left to post their refund addresses in the forums [and confirm their addresses to bigbeninlondon by PM?], and thereby receive a refund (in this batch).
2) 48 hours later we chase JohnK and provide the updated spreadsheet with the refund addresses.
3) Those users who have provided addresses receive refunds; those who have not need to wait and/or request refunds individually from JohnK (who will probably not hold their individual requests as particularly high priority tasks given their lack of enthusiasm to respond)
4) Those of us who have received refunds tip bigbeninlondon, redphlegm, noitev, and JohnK (and anyone else who we feel was instrumental to the refunds process) an appropriate amount to show our gratitude for the work invested (above and beyond the call of duty).
bigbeninlondon - did you PM all outstanding and / or unconfirmed users to see what responses came back? Either way my vote would be to send a message (or if you've already messaged them, a chaser) to let them know they're running out of time and to give them a hard deadline.
Thoughts / comments?
scotjam
October 12, 2013, 12:42:12 PM
thanks a ton, but we really need John K to earn his money and deal with us as soon as he can
since he got paid for this, he should deal with us all directly to confirm. Not sure what he is doing but seems like we are scammed. It is half way to Oct soon
since he got paid for this, he should deal with us all directly to confirm. Not sure what he is doing but seems like we are scammed. It is half way to Oct soon
October 12, 2013, 11:49:21 AM
Daily Refund Address Consolidation Update
Here's the users who still haven't proclaimed any address anywhere that I can find:
Let me know if I missed your PM or post.
Here are the people who haven't confirmed with me here or via PM:
If you see your name here, I haven't confirmed your refund address.
We're at 64% confirmed now. Still haven't heard from John K.
Also, side note. I take security very seriously and I've been thinking about the best way to assure everyone involved that I haven't modified anyone's 'verified' address, and I believe the best way to do that is to post the entire list here (once the list is finished) and have another trusted user quote it so that it can't be changed once it's posted. I know that I'm trustworthy, but a dishonest person would say the same thing, so I want to make sure there are no questions about the validity of my list.
If anyone has a better method, let me know.
Here's the users who still haven't proclaimed any address anywhere that I can find:
Code:
alle.sello
tromacca' *not real nick*
AmpEater
magixx
Hiroaki
ZeroPAiN
nebiz
456191
sun
Let me know if I missed your PM or post.
Here are the people who haven't confirmed with me here or via PM:
Code:
Egon
flowdab
CoinHoarder
wrenchmonkey
dancrn
xbaby
davecoin
RayJay
ragmondo
fmerli
conv3rsion
Doomsby
salt
perseus
stannum
samurai1200
jordan314
If you see your name here, I haven't confirmed your refund address.
We're at 64% confirmed now. Still haven't heard from John K.
Also, side note. I take security very seriously and I've been thinking about the best way to assure everyone involved that I haven't modified anyone's 'verified' address, and I believe the best way to do that is to post the entire list here (once the list is finished) and have another trusted user quote it so that it can't be changed once it's posted. I know that I'm trustworthy, but a dishonest person would say the same thing, so I want to make sure there are no questions about the validity of my list.
If anyone has a better method, let me know.
October 12, 2013, 08:12:09 AM
Daily refund update:
The following users still haven't provided any refund address to me or redphlegm. As always, if you've already contacted John K. then you should be ok, but you won't show up on my refund list. To show up on my refund list, please PM me with your preferred refund address.
The following users have provided addresses, but have not confirmed with me via PM. We've already discovered one fraudulent entry in redphlegm's form (since anyone can fill it out), so please verify that your address is indeed correct on my spreadsheet as an extra security measure.
Also, anyone whose refund address I found on this thread in the last week were marked as "Posted" under the Confirm column. If you'd prefer to just post here, I'll pick that up too.
Edit: Posting the URL to the refund sheet again just in case:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApT7WUJuJCwMdEhFX2UxbF9Nd0xydmhnUUJiZVBLVlE&usp=drive_web#gid=3
Edit2: Just went back a bit further and found some additional refund addresses posted in this thread. List updated.
The following users still haven't provided any refund address to me or redphlegm. As always, if you've already contacted John K. then you should be ok, but you won't show up on my refund list. To show up on my refund list, please PM me with your preferred refund address.
Code:
alle.sello
tromacca' *not real nick*
AmpEater
magixx
Hiroaki
shep80
ZeroPAiN
nebiz
456191
sun
strombom
bitrocket
The following users have provided addresses, but have not confirmed with me via PM. We've already discovered one fraudulent entry in redphlegm's form (since anyone can fill it out), so please verify that your address is indeed correct on my spreadsheet as an extra security measure.
Code:
Egon
Kushedout
purplesquid
flowdab
CoinHoarder
wrenchmonkey
pierrejo
dancrn
Wesly
xbaby
davecoin
RayJay
ragmondo
BitHav
redphlegm
volosator
hugoooo
fmerli
tastycat
conv3rsion
Doomsby
salt
perseus
dgarrett
stannum
samurai1200
jordan314
zamazama
Also, anyone whose refund address I found on this thread in the last week were marked as "Posted" under the Confirm column. If you'd prefer to just post here, I'll pick that up too.
Edit: Posting the URL to the refund sheet again just in case:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApT7WUJuJCwMdEhFX2UxbF9Nd0xydmhnUUJiZVBLVlE&usp=drive_web#gid=3
Edit2: Just went back a bit further and found some additional refund addresses posted in this thread. List updated.
I just sent you a PM confirming my refund address
October 11, 2013, 09:08:24 PM
bigbeninlondon:
I confirm my refund address: 1MjJkJ7NbufTKoD3o9UcDDaZKcYMP6Ra5n
PM also sent.
I confirm my refund address: 1MjJkJ7NbufTKoD3o9UcDDaZKcYMP6Ra5n
PM also sent.
October 11, 2013, 07:02:10 PM
I can confirm the address that bigbeninlondon has for my refund: 17RXcRMUiXqsQkCqqYKXJkP1B4Lqm47hFB
October 11, 2013, 02:06:36 PM
bigben, I pm'd my refund address for batch 1. thank you
I gotcha.
October 11, 2013, 01:44:43 PM
bigben, I pm'd my refund address for batch 1. thank you
October 11, 2013, 05:05:30 AM
Thanks for your work bigben. I sent an address confirmation PM to John K a while back. (I am in the "2nd list.") Is that all that is required?
It should be. I'm not actually in communication with John K. right now, so I don't know what he has. I'm just trying to keep us moving forward and try to provide a central point of documentation. Hopefully my spreadsheet will assist John K with his refund task. But it may be that he already has other plans. Again, I don't know. I just want to consolidate as much information as I can until we hear from John K.
If you have sent your address to JohnK, please also send it to BigBen - that way we all know once all addresses have been confirmed as they will be in the spreadsheet. PMs to JohnK may get lost in the noise, and will make it impossible for us to have one central confirmed spreadsheet, and JohnK definitely does not want to be putting together a separate refund spreadsheet.
I would be happy to chase JohnK to process our refunds, but it's hard to justify that when we don't even have a full list of users and their refund addresses on our side.
Therefore everyone who has not already done so should please confirm their refund address to bigbeninlondon via PM asap.
bigbeninlondon - have you considered PMing each of the people who have not yet confirmed their addresses individually? If you don't want to do this, would you like me to do it on your behalf?
scotjam
I had thought about it, but figured it'd be premature to PM people before John K has stopped by to weigh in. I figured maybe a good portion of people would confirm this weekend when they have a chance to log in. I guess it wouldn't hurt to PM everyone who hasn't confirmed; I'll put something together today.
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