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I have problem with Cryptsy API i think. No data for benchmark and often failed get data from crryptsy (see log)
Where is the problem ? Cryptsy ?

2014-21-02 11:05:55.052   |TRACKER_INFO|   Reading of Cryptsy failed, retrying....
2014-21-02 11:05:56.097   |TRACKER_INFO|   Reading of Cryptsy failed, next retry on next update.
2014-21-02 11:05:56.097   |ERROR|   Cannot access child value on Newtonsoft.Json.Linq.JValue.
2014-21-02 11:05:56.097   |TRACKER_INFO|   Cannot access child value on Newtonsoft.Json.Linq.JValue.
2014-21-02 11:05:57.252   |ERROR|   MAX is not a supported currency.

The biggest coins are cached from the webserver, not all the alt-coins. It would be a impossible job to do. Smiley

What you see here is a 2 times try to get a response from Cryptsy and both tries have failed. So its very safe to conclude this is related to Cryptsy. (i see them too sometimes)

Its not about different prices, they are fine. If I did not miss something, candles consists of summaries of prices of fulfilled trades per time period (in this case 15 minutes on both haasbot and Bitcoinwisdom). Even if the candle collection time was not synced, difference should be max half of they time, so 7.5 minutes in this case, so no big deal. But prices are quite the same, what is not is MACD histogram. So basically I mean input is same, but there is huge difference in output. Or does hassbot collect data different way than usually?

Right on. We collect our prices differently. We do not make use of the fixed prices. This gives us the advantage of being unique (even per users of this software) and just be before or just behind all the other trade-bots.

BTW Most of the indicators will never look to a candle, indicators will only look at the current buy price. That is where the math is based upon.

Of course I don´t want to trade at the same times as others do. My point was to try to feed same data to both Bitcoinwisdom and Haasbot and see if the results match each other, because if not, there is something wrong.. Then I can´t fully rely on hassbots logic and find out good strategy. Its like asking two people how many is 2+3 and hearing different results. Or more like asking whats the time - if someone reply with +/-half a hour accuracy, I can get past that, but if its more than 3 hours difference, its useless info.

There is nothing wrong, its almost impossible to say there is anything wrong because pure mathematics are used. It will just respond the same, if the base is the same to. But if it is not then the effect of the differences will grow in the math. Especially on a EMA, in that math we use a exponential for the moving average.

I will be able to prove this to you (and anybody else who want this) later on. At the moment the backtest/benchmark uses its own prices, but in the future it will be possible to import information from the API of bitcoincharts. In here the so called fixed prices will becomes available all the others use too and then i can show it.
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18.02.2014 16:46   Buy   0.00008407         0.0         0.00006725600000000      
18.02.2014 20:10   Sell      0.00008719   0.00008407      0.00124800   0.00124800   0.00006975200000000   0.00013700800000000   0.00111099200000000
18.02.2014 21:41   Buy   0.00008562         0.00008719         0.00006849600000000      
19.02.2014 00:58   Sell      0.00008968   0.00008562      0.00162400   0.00287200   0.00007174400000000   0.00027724800000000   0.00259475200000000
19.02.2014 04:26   Buy   0.00008999         0.00008968         0.00007199200000000      
19.02.2014 07:52   Sell      0.00009066   0.00008999      0.00026800   0.00314000   0.00007252800000000   0.00042176800000000   0.00271823200000000
19.02.2014 10:22   Buy   0.00008799         0.00009066         0.00007039200000000   





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I have problem with Cryptsy API i think. No data for benchmark and often failed get data from crryptsy (see log)
Where is the problem ? Cryptsy ?

2014-21-02 11:05:55.052   |TRACKER_INFO|   Reading of Cryptsy failed, retrying....
2014-21-02 11:05:56.097   |TRACKER_INFO|   Reading of Cryptsy failed, next retry on next update.
2014-21-02 11:05:56.097   |ERROR|   Cannot access child value on Newtonsoft.Json.Linq.JValue.
2014-21-02 11:05:56.097   |TRACKER_INFO|   Cannot access child value on Newtonsoft.Json.Linq.JValue.
2014-21-02 11:05:57.252   |ERROR|   MAX is not a supported currency.
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Doge Ltc:

2/19/2014 10:10 PM   Sell      0.00008546   0.0      0.0   0.0   0.00341840000000000   0.00341840000000000   -0.00341840000000000
2/20/2014 12:11 AM   Buy   0.00008594         0.00008546         0.00343760000000000      
2/20/2014 12:49 AM   Sell      0.00008614   0.00008594      0.00400000   0.00400000   0.00344560000000000   0.01030160000000000   -0.00630160000000000
2/20/2014 1:31 AM   Buy   0.00008549         0.00008614         0.00341960000000000      
2/20/2014 4:21 AM   Sell      0.00008575   0.00008549      0.00520000   0.00920000   0.00343000000000000   0.01715120000000000   -0.00795120000000000
2/20/2014 4:56 AM   Buy   0.00008515         0.00008575         0.00340600000000000      
2/20/2014 5:41 AM   Sell      0.00008541   0.00008515      0.00520000   0.01440000   0.00341640000000000   0.02397360000000000   -0.00957360000000000
2/20/2014 8:02 AM   Buy   0.00008406         0.00008541         0.00336240000000000      
2/20/2014 8:16 AM   Sell      0.00008410   0.00008406      0.00080000   0.01520000   0.00336400000000000   0.03070000000000000   -0.01550000000000000
2/20/2014 10:31 AM   Buy   0.00008412         0.00008410         0.00336480000000000      
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I´ve got a picture! Haha!
bitcoinwisdom updates the macd in a different way; time   the bot macd is not wrong

Can You please be more specific, as I can´t imagine how and why should one indicatro be shown two ways? Furthermore when one of them force You to lose money?

I can explain this... if you compare the prices shown at bitcoinwisdom and the prices in the software then you will see a difference, this is the cause of the difference in the readings. The software reads the prices on its own moment. As you know the price is never the same, this changes every nanosecond. So here is the base of the difference in output.

Its not about different prices, they are fine. If I did not miss something, candles consists of summaries of prices of fulfilled trades per time period (in this case 15 minutes on both haasbot and Bitcoinwisdom). Even if the candle collection time was not synced, difference should be max half of they time, so 7.5 minutes in this case, so no big deal. But prices are quite the same, what is not is MACD histogram. So basically I mean input is same, but there is huge difference in output. Or does hassbot collect data different way than usually?

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I do not understand the focus on re-creating those charts. Personally i do not want this because i do not want to trade at the same time as all the other bots that use those prices. And besides this... what is this software really about? Yes, getting some good trades from it so why not focus on a good strategy?

I know what comes next... who do you find a good strategy? I was just working on a response explaining this better.

Of course I don´t want to trade at the same times as others do. My point was to try to feed same data to both Bitcoinwisdom and Haasbot and see if the results match each other, because if not, there is something wrong.. Then I can´t fully rely on hassbots logic and find out good strategy. Its like asking two people how many is 2+3 and hearing different results. Or more like asking whats the time - if someone reply with +/-half a hour accuracy, I can get past that, but if its more than 3 hours difference, its useless info.
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What should I expect by investing 2 BTC? 2% per day?
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bitcoinwisdom updates the macd in a different way; time   the bot macd is not wrong

Can You please be more specific, as I can´t imagine how and why should one indicatro be shown two ways? Furthermore when one of them force You to lose money?

I can explain this... if you compare the prices shown at bitcoinwisdom and the prices in the software then you will see a difference, this is the cause of the difference in the readings. The software reads the prices on its own moment. As you know the price is never the same, this changes every nanosecond. So here is the base of the difference in output.

I do not understand the focus on re-creating those charts. Personally i do not want this because i do not want to trade at the same time as all the other bots that use those prices. And besides this... what is this software really about? Yes, getting some good trades from it so why not focus on a good strategy?

I know what comes next... who do you find a good strategy? I was just working on a response explaining this better.

strange:
Sell      0.00000214
Buy   0.00000217
Sell      0.00000215
Buy   0.00000215
Sell      0.00000214
Buy   0.00000213
Sell      0.00000213

why bot sell under buy price or same price ? it;s backtest with MACD indicator but why Smiley

If you read this kind of values then it means the response is to fast. You need to slow it down to get some better readings, there are several ways to make this happen.

1. You can increase the update timer of the indicator. (its 2min by default for MACD, so you can have a try to see how 4min preforms)
2. You can slow down the moving averages, for example increase the short moving average by +2. (by default its 12, try 14 for example)
3. You can slow down the signal line of the MACD, for example increase it by +2. (by default its 12, try 14 for example)

Trying these things and watching the effect (and learning) from it is very useful. There is even a way to do this more easy. I had a little hard time to describe it, so i will explain this with a image.



As you see i have setup a trade-bot with a lot of the same indicators to it. But all those indicators have a slight difference. When i now benchmark/backtest this trade-bot it will not do good in trading of course. This is true overkill. But it gives me (and you) the output of all the indicator data and i am now able to really see the effect of the changes. The only thing i need to do is compare the response charts at the "Edit indicator" -page and i am able to make conclusions. (aka improve my strategy)



I really recommend to do these kind of test setups because it just make things more clear.

Of course the general recommendation remains standing: to avoid losses use the "FeeOvercome" insurance.

BTW: The backtest is designed to be pessimistic. If you did a 1 tot 1 compare to a bot that has run then the bot that has run will have made more profitable trades. This is because market orders are used and because real sell prices are used instead of static ones. We will shave this down a bit in the next update. But this concept itself remains standing, the end-benefit of having an pessimistic backtest/benchmark is to large. (to explain this easy: the exacter the backtest would be, the more can go wrong)
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SmokedMolex

My HTS 0.9.7.0 has no "Backtest Tradebot"
in Config / Basic settings
only Acticate >< Clear last buy  >< Clear statistics

and no Auto setup

With the normal automatic update it chance on my PC only the version but not enable the new features
May be i have do download the SW and install it new.


after manualy extraction the update.RAR in the same directory
I have the features
thers is something wrong with the automatic update


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bitcoinwisdom updates the macd in a different way; time   the bot macd is not wrong

Can You please be more specific, as I can´t imagine how and why should one indicatro be shown two ways? Furthermore when one of them force You to lose money?
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bitcoinwisdom updates the macd in a different way; time   the bot macd is not wrong
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strange:
Sell      0.00000214
Buy   0.00000217
Sell      0.00000215
Buy   0.00000215
Sell      0.00000214
Buy   0.00000213
Sell      0.00000213

why bot sell under buy price or same price ? it;s backtest with MACD indicator but why Smiley
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@g0re79:
the trades posted are from Cryptsy, not from the bot. But the bot was doing the trades.
Just look at the buy sell positions and you can see buy low sell high on doge ltc/ doge btc and some buy high sell low on tips ltc for my fault miss adjusting. but in overall my bots are running through 24/7 since a couple weeks and I made profit. little by little every day... of course I had to take some loss as well.

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some trades on Cryptsy with the bot:
I don't see any issue... also Tips is in
....

So maybe I had bad luck with choosing markets.. Fire up some VTC/BTC or UNO/BTC bot and You´ll see. Even Stephan confirmed this issue, so are You sure that there are no ghost trades in haasbot logs? Its quite hard to link them together correctly, as they are listed upside down (maybe feature request to be able to switch trade logs from newest to oldest and vice versa). Anyway - Cryptsy updated API today, so we´ll see if it helps.

Quote from: papasmurph
pls. also don't forget we just came out of an funny sidewards / downtrend...

True, but nothing of what I was talking about - it was all about (mal)functionality

Quote from: papasmurph
bitcoinwisdom is updating the signals every 15 seconds

You get me wrong - both graps are based on exactly same values, INCLUDING candle time of 15 minutes. Speed of data updating does not have anything to do with historical data. What I am talking about is that MACD histo is somehow shifted 3 hours forward on haasbot graph (look at 6AM and use it as reference point). Beginning of haasbot graph is furthermore inaccurate, but IMHO its due to not enough of market data - if I get it right, at 16/26 of 15 minutes candles You need at least 6.5 hours of previous data. Its probably not a bug, but its bit confusing anyway and I am curious how bots are handling this while benchmarking..

Of course I may be wrong badly so every correction is wellcome.
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I am starting to feel like king of complainers about STB, but I spend decent amount of money compared to average income in my coutry on this BOT and still dont see any benefits of that.. I bought this BOT for trading on Cryptsy, (because other exchanges are overboted ATM and so is CEX.IO, the next on list of STB/ATB supported exchanges), which is due to ghost trade issue impossible. So I moved to BTCe and found out another easilly replicable flaw:



Maybe I am wrong, so can someone explain me what is happening here? Why there is so huge difference between STB and bitcoinwisdom, when all indicators are set EXACTLY same way?? It seems to be OK for first look, but look at it cloer and You´ll find out that its money loosing machine..

bitcoinwisdom is updating the signals every 15 seconds
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pls. also don't forget we just came out of an funny sidewards / downtrend...
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some trades on Cryptsy with the bot:
I don't see any issue... also Tips is in

2014-02-19 18:29:28       Buy  DOGE/BTC 0.00000214 BTC 20000.00000000 DOGE 0.000085600 BTC 0.04288560 BTC
2014-02-19 14:27:58       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008860 LTC 2313.55513645 DOGE 0.000614940 LTC 0.20436605 LTC
2014-02-19 12:43:47       Buy  TIPS/LTC 0.00000043 LTC 10000.00000000 TIPS 0.000008600 LTC 0.00430860 LTC
2014-02-19 09:50:17       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008768 LTC 19823.69514272 DOGE 0.003476280 LTC 1.74161787 LTC
2014-02-19 09:50:17       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008730 LTC 176.30485728 DOGE 0.000030780 LTC 0.01542219 LTC
2014-02-19 09:14:21       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008750 LTC 20000.00000000 DOGE 0.005250000 LTC 1.74475000 LTC
2014-02-19 07:50:54       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008625 LTC 15762.59033032 DOGE 0.002719050 LTC 1.36224247 LTC
2014-02-19 07:48:03       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008625 LTC 4237.40966968 DOGE 0.000730950 LTC 0.36620753 LTC
2014-02-19 06:59:40       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008662 LTC 20000.00000000 DOGE 0.003464800 LTC 1.73586480 LTC
2014-02-19 06:28:17       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008860 LTC 14000.00000000 DOGE 0.003721200 LTC 1.23667880 LTC
2014-02-19 06:27:37       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008860 LTC 1063.96349513 DOGE 0.000282800 LTC 0.09398437 LTC
2014-02-19 06:26:21       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008860 LTC 2622.48136842 DOGE 0.000697060 LTC 0.23165479 LTC
2014-02-18 22:26:33       Sell  TIPS/LTC 0.00000045 LTC 10000.00000000 TIPS 0.000013500 LTC 0.00448650 LTC
2014-02-18 17:48:06       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008807 LTC 496.09970144 DOGE 0.000131070 LTC 0.04356043 LTC
2014-02-18 17:48:06       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008807 LTC 1000.00000000 DOGE 0.000264210 LTC 0.08780579 LTC
2014-02-18 17:48:05       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008809 LTC 18503.90029856 DOGE 0.004890030 LTC 1.62511855 LTC
2014-02-18 16:14:44       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008433 LTC 20000.00000000 DOGE 0.003373200 LTC 1.68997320 LTC
2014-02-18 15:45:35       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000195 BTC 170.36080400 STR 0.000000660 BTC 0.00033286 BTC
2014-02-18 15:44:47       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000195 BTC 235.11820300 STR 0.000000920 BTC 0.00045940 BTC
2014-02-18 15:30:01       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000195 BTC 100.40000000 STR 0.000000390 BTC 0.00019617 BTC
2014-02-18 15:28:33       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000195 BTC 137.17927500 STR 0.000000540 BTC 0.00026804 BTC
2014-02-18 15:25:18       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000195 BTC 103.71444700 STR 0.000000400 BTC 0.00020264 BTC
2014-02-18 15:19:03       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000195 BTC 117.75674400 STR 0.000000460 BTC 0.00023009 BTC
2014-02-18 15:16:28       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000195 BTC 100.01000000 STR 0.000000390 BTC 0.00019541 BTC
2014-02-18 15:12:33       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000195 BTC 200.06000000 STR 0.000000780 BTC 0.00039090 BTC
2014-02-18 15:11:23       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000195 BTC 107.96142900 STR 0.000000420 BTC 0.00021094 BTC
2014-02-18 15:10:28       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000195 BTC 786.08742000 STR 0.000003070 BTC 0.00153594 BTC
2014-02-18 15:08:46       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000195 BTC 800.20000000 STR 0.000003120 BTC 0.00156351 BTC
2014-02-18 15:08:46       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000195 BTC 141.15167800 STR 0.000000550 BTC 0.00027580 BTC
2014-02-18 13:21:15       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008597 LTC 2612.94267442 DOGE 0.000673900 LTC 0.22396078 LTC
2014-02-18 13:21:15       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008598 LTC 10455.00000000 DOGE 0.002696760 LTC 0.89622414 LTC
2014-02-18 13:21:15       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008523 LTC 6932.05732558 DOGE 0.001772460 LTC 0.58904679 LTC
2014-02-18 13:14:47       Sell  DOGE/BTC 0.00000215 BTC 20000.00000000 DOGE 0.000129000 BTC 0.04287100 BTC
2014-02-18 13:06:54       Sell  DOGE/BTC 0.00000215 BTC 20000.00000000 DOGE 0.000129000 BTC 0.04287100 BTC
2014-02-18 11:14:04       Sell  STR/BTC 0.00000199 BTC 3000.00000000 STR 0.000017910 BTC 0.00595209 BTC
2014-02-18 10:04:19       Sell  TIPS/LTC 0.00000045 LTC 10000.00000000 TIPS 0.000013500 LTC 0.00448650 LTC
2014-02-18 04:12:13       Buy  DOGE/BTC 0.00000210 BTC 11846.42223363 DOGE 0.000049750 BTC 0.02492724 BTC
2014-02-18 04:11:40       Buy  DOGE/BTC 0.00000210 BTC 2532.29299275 DOGE 0.000010640 BTC 0.00532846 BTC
2014-02-18 04:11:32       Buy  DOGE/BTC 0.00000210 BTC 498.36244820 DOGE 0.000002090 BTC 0.00104865 BTC
2014-02-18 04:11:02       Buy  DOGE/BTC 0.00000210 BTC 5122.92232542 DOGE 0.000021520 BTC 0.01077966 BTC
2014-02-18 03:14:56       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008518 LTC 3394.51755803 DOGE 0.000578290 LTC 0.28972330 LTC
2014-02-18 03:12:56       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008518 LTC 800.00000000 DOGE 0.000136290 LTC 0.06828029 LTC
2014-02-18 03:11:43       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008518 LTC 12561.43797880 DOGE 0.002139970 LTC 1.07212326 LTC
2014-02-18 03:11:38       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008490 LTC 3244.04446317 DOGE 0.000550840 LTC 0.27597021 LTC
2014-02-18 02:32:18       Buy  TIPS/LTC 0.00000044 LTC 10000.00000000 TIPS 0.000008800 LTC 0.00440880 LTC
2014-02-18 01:52:18       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008573 LTC 20000.00000000 DOGE 0.005143800 LTC 1.70945620 LTC
2014-02-18 01:28:38       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008579 LTC 20000.00000000 DOGE 0.005147400 LTC 1.71065260 LTC
2014-02-18 01:03:16       Buy  TIPS/LTC 0.00000043 LTC 10000.00000000 TIPS 0.000008600 LTC 0.00430860 LTC
2014-02-18 00:59:19       Sell  STR/BTC 0.00000198 BTC 201.68172188 STR 0.000001200 BTC 0.00039813 BTC
2014-02-18 00:48:50       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008559 LTC 19991.99188598 DOGE 0.003422230 LTC 1.71453682 LTC
2014-02-18 00:48:50       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008559 LTC 8.00811402 DOGE 0.000001370 LTC 0.00068678 LTC
2014-02-17 23:42:07       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000195 BTC 143.20038633 STR 0.000000560 BTC 0.00027980 BTC
2014-02-17 23:25:46       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000195 BTC 100.63535300 STR 0.000000390 BTC 0.00019663 BTC
2014-02-17 23:25:45       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000195 BTC 2756.16426067 STR 0.000010750 BTC 0.00538527 BTC
2014-02-17 23:25:45       Sell  STR/BTC 0.00000195 BTC 2756.16426067 STR 0.000016120 BTC 0.00535840 BTC
2014-02-17 23:11:20       Sell  STR/BTC 0.00000195 BTC 243.83573933 STR 0.000001430 BTC 0.00047405 BTC
2014-02-17 22:28:27       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008504 LTC 20000.00000000 DOGE 0.005102400 LTC 1.69569760 LTC
2014-02-17 22:24:39       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008499 LTC 80.10220996 DOGE 0.000013620 LTC 0.00682151 LTC
2014-02-17 22:21:11       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008499 LTC 197.36180000 DOGE 0.000033550 LTC 0.01680733 LTC
2014-02-17 22:19:13       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008499 LTC 11.00000000 DOGE 0.000001870 LTC 0.00093676 LTC
2014-02-17 22:19:03       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008499 LTC 135.90845070 DOGE 0.000023100 LTC 0.01157396 LTC
2014-02-17 22:17:40       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008499 LTC 503.13139596 DOGE 0.000085520 LTC 0.04284666 LTC
2014-02-17 22:17:40       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008499 LTC 482.94838894 DOGE 0.000082090 LTC 0.04112787 LTC
2014-02-17 22:17:40       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008499 LTC 18589.54775444 DOGE 0.003159850 LTC 1.58308551 LTC
2014-02-17 20:54:08       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000193 BTC 949.62345914 STR 0.000003670 BTC 0.00183644 BTC
2014-02-17 20:44:04       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000193 BTC 574.29608000 STR 0.000002220 BTC 0.00111061 BTC
2014-02-17 20:38:25       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000193 BTC 301.89034000 STR 0.000001170 BTC 0.00058382 BTC
2014-02-17 20:37:24       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000193 BTC 105.05758200 STR 0.000000410 BTC 0.00020317 BTC
2014-02-17 20:31:33       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000193 BTC 300.06000000 STR 0.000001160 BTC 0.00058028 BTC
2014-02-17 20:26:41       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000193 BTC 200.00000000 STR 0.000000770 BTC 0.00038677 BTC
2014-02-17 20:21:21       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000193 BTC 200.00000000 STR 0.000000770 BTC 0.00038677 BTC
2014-02-17 20:16:06       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000193 BTC 267.00000000 STR 0.000001030 BTC 0.00051634 BTC
2014-02-17 20:10:43       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000193 BTC 102.07253886 STR 0.000000390 BTC 0.00019739 BTC
2014-02-17 19:05:34       Sell  STR/BTC 0.00000198 BTC 2798.31827812 STR 0.000016620 BTC 0.00552405 BTC
2014-02-17 18:03:06       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008410 LTC 20000.00000000 DOGE 0.003364000 LTC 1.68536400 LTC
2014-02-17 18:01:13       Buy  DOGE/BTC 0.00000211 BTC 20000.00000000 DOGE 0.000084400 BTC 0.04228440 BTC
2014-02-17 16:51:32       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008660 LTC 20000.00000000 DOGE 0.005196000 LTC 1.72680400 LTC
2014-02-17 16:19:01       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008649 LTC 1835.96711340 DOGE 0.000317590 LTC 0.15911039 LTC
2014-02-17 16:17:39       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008649 LTC 18164.03288660 DOGE 0.003142010 LTC 1.57414921 LTC
2014-02-17 16:15:35       Sell  TIPS/LTC 0.00000045 LTC 10000.00000000 TIPS 0.000013500 LTC 0.00448650 LTC
2014-02-17 15:10:22       Sell  STR/BTC 0.00000195 BTC 3000.00000000 STR 0.000017550 BTC 0.00583245 BTC
2014-02-17 14:32:11       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000194 BTC 188.31479519 STR 0.000000730 BTC 0.00036606 BTC
2014-02-17 14:28:22       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008677 LTC 20000.00000000 DOGE 0.005206200 LTC 1.73019380 LTC
2014-02-17 14:19:09       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000194 BTC 400.00000000 STR 0.000001550 BTC 0.00077755 BTC
2014-02-17 14:09:13       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000194 BTC 1692.46801100 STR 0.000006570 BTC 0.00328996 BTC
2014-02-17 14:07:04       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000194 BTC 719.21719381 STR 0.000002790 BTC 0.00139807 BTC
2014-02-17 10:25:39       Sell  DOGE/BTC 0.00000210 BTC 19762.00000000 DOGE 0.000124500 BTC 0.04137570 BTC
2014-02-17 10:25:39       Sell  DOGE/BTC 0.00000210 BTC 238.00000000 DOGE 0.000001500 BTC 0.00049830 BTC
2014-02-17 10:24:38       Buy  TIPS/LTC 0.00000046 LTC 10000.00000000 TIPS 0.000009200 LTC 0.00460920 LTC
2014-02-17 07:30:04       Sell  TIPS/LTC 0.00000047 LTC 10000.00000000 TIPS 0.000014100 LTC 0.00468590 LTC
2014-02-17 06:55:39       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00009100 LTC 4752.84853373 DOGE 0.000865020 LTC 0.43337424 LTC
2014-02-17 06:55:08       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00009100 LTC 893.39629999 DOGE 0.000162600 LTC 0.08146166 LTC
2014-02-17 06:55:04       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00009100 LTC 1.00000000 DOGE 0.000000180 LTC 0.00009118 LTC
2014-02-17 06:55:04       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00009100 LTC 136.24931593 DOGE 0.000024800 LTC 0.01242349 LTC
2014-02-17 06:55:03       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00009100 LTC 2104.66290423 DOGE 0.000383050 LTC 0.19190737 LTC
2014-02-17 06:55:03       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00009100 LTC 2957.16298342 DOGE 0.000538200 LTC 0.26964003 LTC
2014-02-17 06:55:03       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00009100 LTC 9154.67996270 DOGE 0.001666150 LTC 0.83474203 LTC
2014-02-17 05:41:06       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00009105 LTC 20000.00000000 DOGE 0.005463000 LTC 1.81553700 LTC
2014-02-17 05:28:58       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00009083 LTC 20000.00000000 DOGE 0.005449800 LTC 1.81115020 LTC
2014-02-17 05:10:02       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00009001 LTC 20000.00000000 DOGE 0.003600400 LTC 1.80380040 LTC
2014-02-17 04:31:50       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00009002 LTC 11709.99662217 DOGE 0.002108270 LTC 1.05624217 LTC
2014-02-17 04:31:45       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00009002 LTC 2048.61194236 DOGE 0.000368830 LTC 0.18478488 LTC
2014-02-17 04:15:53       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00009002 LTC 5021.44980000 DOGE 0.000904060 LTC 0.45293497 LTC
2014-02-17 04:13:08       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00009002 LTC 1219.94163547 DOGE 0.000219640 LTC 0.11003879 LTC
2014-02-17 03:45:43       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00009019 LTC 19909.77025115 DOGE 0.005386990 LTC 1.79027519 LTC
2014-02-17 03:45:16       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00009019 LTC 90.22974885 DOGE 0.000024410 LTC 0.00811341 LTC
2014-02-17 03:02:47       Buy  TIPS/LTC 0.00000046 LTC 10000.00000000 TIPS 0.000009200 LTC 0.00460920 LTC
2014-02-17 02:35:07       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008980 LTC 16902.69095217 DOGE 0.004553580 LTC 1.51330807 LTC
2014-02-17 01:59:15       Buy  DOGE/BTC 0.00000226 BTC 20000.00000000 DOGE 0.000090400 BTC 0.04529040 BTC
2014-02-17 00:10:46       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008930 LTC 15002.84896219 DOGE 0.002679510 LTC 1.34243392 LTC
2014-02-17 00:10:43       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008926 LTC 4997.15103781 DOGE 0.000892090 LTC 0.44693779 LTC
2014-02-17 00:05:40       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008980 LTC 383.00000000 DOGE 0.000103180 LTC 0.03429022 LTC
2014-02-16 23:56:20       Sell  TIPS/LTC 0.00000047 LTC 10000.00000000 TIPS 0.000014100 LTC 0.00468590 LTC
2014-02-16 23:55:57       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008980 LTC 539.00000000 DOGE 0.000145210 LTC 0.04825699 LTC
2014-02-16 23:54:24       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008980 LTC 2175.30904783 DOGE 0.000586030 LTC 0.19475672 LTC
2014-02-16 23:20:10       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008940 LTC 1183.49229597 DOGE 0.000211610 LTC 0.10601582 LTC
2014-02-16 23:17:32       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008940 LTC 1672.87436000 DOGE 0.000299110 LTC 0.14985408 LTC
2014-02-16 23:13:34       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008940 LTC 1307.00344100 DOGE 0.000233690 LTC 0.11707980 LTC
2014-02-16 23:12:32       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008940 LTC 12857.00898419 DOGE 0.002298830 LTC 1.15171543 LTC
2014-02-16 23:11:26       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00008940 LTC 2979.62091884 DOGE 0.000532760 LTC 0.26691087 LTC
2014-02-16 22:41:26       Sell  DOGE/BTC 0.00000227 BTC 20000.00000000 DOGE 0.000136200 BTC 0.04526380 BTC
2014-02-16 21:01:55       Buy  TIPS/LTC 0.00000046 LTC 10000.00000000 TIPS 0.000009200 LTC 0.00460920 LTC
2014-02-16 20:25:51       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008969 LTC 7925.52926549 DOGE 0.002132520 LTC 0.70870820 LTC
2014-02-16 20:25:21       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008969 LTC 707.76820759 DOGE 0.000190440 LTC 0.06328929 LTC
2014-02-16 20:20:36       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008969 LTC 9894.04432009 DOGE 0.002662190 LTC 0.88473465 LTC
2014-02-16 20:19:53       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008969 LTC 500.00000000 DOGE 0.000134540 LTC 0.04471046 LTC
2014-02-16 20:19:07       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00008969 LTC 972.65820683 DOGE 0.000261710 LTC 0.08697600 LTC
2014-02-16 08:44:18       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00009314 LTC 10000.00000000 DOGE 0.001862800 LTC 0.93326280 LTC
2014-02-16 08:12:41       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00009420 LTC 10000.00000000 DOGE 0.002826000 LTC 0.93917400 LTC
2014-02-16 08:06:25       Sell  TIPS/LTC 0.00000046 LTC 10000.00000000 TIPS 0.000013800 LTC 0.00458620 LTC
2014-02-16 05:39:25       Buy  GDC/BTC 0.00000086 BTC 1000.00000000 GDC 0.000001720 BTC 0.00086172 BTC
2014-02-16 04:43:33       Buy  DOGE/BTC 0.00000227 BTC 10000.00000000 DOGE 0.000045400 BTC 0.02274540 BTC
2014-02-16 03:31:28       Sell  DOGE/BTC 0.00000233 BTC 10000.00000000 DOGE 0.000069900 BTC 0.02323010 BTC
2014-02-16 03:09:41       Sell  DOGE/BTC 0.00000227 BTC 10000.00000000 DOGE 0.000068100 BTC 0.02263190 BTC
2014-02-16 02:20:41       Sell  GDC/BTC 0.00000086 BTC 1000.00000000 GDC 0.000002580 BTC 0.00085742 BTC
2014-02-16 01:53:19       Buy  TIPS/LTC 0.00000046 LTC 10000.00000000 TIPS 0.000009200 LTC 0.00460920 LTC
2014-02-16 00:51:59       Buy  DOGE/BTC 0.00000226 BTC 10000.00000000 DOGE 0.000045200 BTC 0.02264520 BTC
2014-02-15 20:06:01       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00009306 LTC 4552.11515223 DOGE 0.001270860 LTC 0.42234898 LTC
2014-02-15 20:00:44       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00009306 LTC 5447.88484777 DOGE 0.001520940 LTC 0.50545922 LTC
2014-02-15 19:18:06       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00009301 LTC 144.18571540 DOGE 0.000026820 LTC 0.01343753 LTC
2014-02-15 19:18:06       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00009301 LTC 9855.81428460 DOGE 0.001833380 LTC 0.91852267 LTC
2014-02-15 16:27:49       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000235 BTC 3000.00000000 STR 0.000014100 BTC 0.00706410 BTC
2014-02-15 16:16:32       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00009487 LTC 1000.00000000 DOGE 0.000284610 LTC 0.09458539 LTC
2014-02-15 16:15:13       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000265 BTC 25.19245885 STR 0.000000130 BTC 0.00006689 BTC
2014-02-15 16:06:12       Sell  STR/BTC 0.00000440 BTC 2526.98670446 STR 0.000033360 BTC 0.01108538 BTC
2014-02-15 16:06:12       Sell  STR/BTC 0.00000450 BTC 473.01329554 STR 0.000006390 BTC 0.00212217 BTC
2014-02-15 15:43:37       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000250 BTC 2927.00000000 STR 0.000014640 BTC 0.00733214 BTC
2014-02-15 15:43:36       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000244 BTC 47.80754115 STR 0.000000230 BTC 0.00011688 BTC
2014-02-15 15:01:49       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00009510 LTC 1000.00000000 DOGE 0.000190200 LTC 0.09529020 LTC
2014-02-15 14:16:03       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00009600 LTC 1000.00000000 DOGE 0.000288000 LTC 0.09571200 LTC
2014-02-15 12:43:28       Sell  STR/BTC 0.00000210 BTC 1241.40476192 STR 0.000007820 BTC 0.00259913 BTC
2014-02-15 12:43:15       Sell  STR/BTC 0.00000210 BTC 1758.59523808 STR 0.000011080 BTC 0.00368197 BTC
2014-02-14 20:08:17       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00009467 LTC 1000.00000000 DOGE 0.000189340 LTC 0.09485934 LTC
2014-02-14 14:47:22       Buy  GDC/BTC 0.00000084 BTC 1000.00000000 GDC 0.000001680 BTC 0.00084168 BTC
2014-02-14 07:56:57       Buy  DOGE/BTC 0.00000256 BTC 1000.00000000 DOGE 0.000005120 BTC 0.00256512 BTC
2014-02-14 03:29:20       Sell  GDC/BTC 0.00000086 BTC 1000.00000000 GDC 0.000002580 BTC 0.00085742 BTC
2014-02-14 00:47:12       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00010248 LTC 997.93348510 DOGE 0.000306800 LTC 0.10196142 LTC
2014-02-14 00:46:36       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00010248 LTC 2.06651490 DOGE 0.000000640 LTC 0.00021114 LTC
2014-02-14 00:42:09       Sell  DOGE/BTC 0.00000264 BTC 1000.00000000 DOGE 0.000007920 BTC 0.00263208 BTC
2014-02-13 22:26:21       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000183 BTC 632.94550886 STR 0.000002320 BTC 0.00116061 BTC
2014-02-13 22:26:08       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000183 BTC 600.00000000 STR 0.000002200 BTC 0.00110020 BTC
2014-02-13 22:25:52       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000183 BTC 520.00000000 STR 0.000001900 BTC 0.00095350 BTC
2014-02-13 22:19:33       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000183 BTC 1247.05449114 STR 0.000004560 BTC 0.00228667 BTC
2014-02-13 21:40:54       Sell  STR/BTC 0.00000183 BTC 3000.00000000 STR 0.000016470 BTC 0.00547353 BTC
2014-02-13 20:25:52       Sell  DOGE/BTC 0.00000248 BTC 30000.00000000 DOGE 0.000223200 BTC 0.07417680 BTC
2014-02-13 10:02:58       Buy  DOGE/BTC 0.00000271 BTC 30000.00000000 DOGE 0.000162600 BTC 0.08146260 BTC
2014-02-13 05:06:39       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00010439 LTC 15592.86882634 DOGE 0.003255480 LTC 1.63099506 LTC
2014-02-13 05:06:39       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00010430 LTC 9720.93124568 DOGE 0.002027790 LTC 1.01592092 LTC
2014-02-13 05:06:39       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00010411 LTC 2717.54959793 DOGE 0.000565850 LTC 0.28348994 LTC
2014-02-13 05:06:39       Buy  DOGE/LTC 0.00010410 LTC 1968.65033005 DOGE 0.000409870 LTC 0.20534637 LTC
2014-02-13 00:13:52       Sell  DOGE/BTC 0.00000277 BTC 30000.00000000 DOGE 0.000249300 BTC 0.08285070 BTC
2014-02-12 23:05:57       Buy  DOGE/BTC 0.00000276 BTC 30000.00000000 DOGE 0.000165600 BTC 0.08296560 BTC
2014-02-12 21:46:00       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00010843 LTC 10000.00000000 DOGE 0.003252900 LTC 1.08104710 LTC
2014-02-12 19:56:13       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00011054 LTC 859.17778856 DOGE 0.000284920 LTC 0.09468859 LTC
2014-02-12 19:56:00       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00011054 LTC 2962.42015518 DOGE 0.000982400 LTC 0.32648352 LTC
2014-02-12 19:55:24       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00011054 LTC 6178.40205626 DOGE 0.002048880 LTC 0.68091168 LTC
2014-02-12 19:24:12       Sell  DOGE/BTC 0.00000282 BTC 10000.00000000 DOGE 0.000084600 BTC 0.02811540 BTC
2014-02-12 03:42:12       Buy  GDC/BTC 0.00000088 BTC 40.94392434 GDC 0.000000070 BTC 0.00003610 BTC
2014-02-12 03:36:03       Buy  GDC/BTC 0.00000088 BTC 959.05607566 GDC 0.000001690 BTC 0.00084566 BTC
2014-02-12 01:56:55       Sell  GDC/BTC 0.00000087 BTC 1000.00000000 GDC 0.000002610 BTC 0.00086739 BTC
2014-02-11 21:04:09       Sell  DOGE/BTC 0.00000291 BTC 10000.00000000 DOGE 0.000087300 BTC 0.02901270 BTC
2014-02-11 20:36:45       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00010995 LTC 1401.32834333 DOGE 0.000462230 LTC 0.15361382 LTC
2014-02-11 20:36:45       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00010995 LTC 3286.58144611 DOGE 0.001084080 LTC 0.36027555 LTC
2014-02-11 20:36:44       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00010995 LTC 3286.58144611 DOGE 0.001084080 LTC 0.36027555 LTC
2014-02-11 20:36:42       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00010995 LTC 3286.58144611 DOGE 0.001084080 LTC 0.36027555 LTC
2014-02-11 20:36:41       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00010995 LTC 3286.58144611 DOGE 0.001084080 LTC 0.36027555 LTC
2014-02-11 20:36:25       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00010995 LTC 113.84142278 DOGE 0.000037550 LTC 0.01247931 LTC
2014-02-11 20:36:04       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00010995 LTC 5338.50444945 DOGE 0.001760910 LTC 0.58520765 LTC
2014-02-11 20:03:09       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00010630 LTC 8670.05018636 DOGE 0.002764880 LTC 0.91886145 LTC
2014-02-11 20:03:08       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00010645 LTC 60.73817607 DOGE 0.000019400 LTC 0.00644618 LTC
2014-02-11 20:03:05       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00010645 LTC 3393.42855801 DOGE 0.001083690 LTC 0.36014678 LTC
2014-02-11 20:03:05       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00010645 LTC 3393.29948333 DOGE 0.001083650 LTC 0.36013308 LTC
2014-02-11 20:03:05       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00010645 LTC 3393.29948333 DOGE 0.001083650 LTC 0.36013308 LTC
2014-02-11 20:03:04       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00010645 LTC 1089.18411290 DOGE 0.000347830 LTC 0.11559582 LTC
2014-02-11 19:04:38       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00010348 LTC 1000.00000000 DOGE 0.000310440 LTC 0.10316956 LTC
2014-02-11 19:04:24       Sell  DOGE/LTC 0.00010348 LTC 29000.00000000 DOGE 0.009002760 LTC 2.99191724 LTC
2014-02-11 19:00:31       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000190 BTC 2900.00000000 STR 0.000011020 BTC 0.00552102 BTC
2014-02-11 18:48:50       Buy  STR/BTC 0.00000190 BTC 100.00000000 STR 0.000000380 BTC 0.00019038 BTC
2014-02-11 18:34:58       Sell  STR/BTC 0.00000188 BTC 3000.00000000 STR 0.000016920 BTC 0.00562308 BTC
2014-02-11 18:31:20       Buy  GDC/BTC 0.00000083 BTC 595.15204760 GDC 0.000000990 BTC 0.00049497 BTC

newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
where is a benchmark/backtest tool on 0.9.7.0 Huh
I only loose money so far  Sad
but may be due to not known prameters in config
MACD 23 / 43 and 4 min and ROC with Cryptsy LTC/Btc  is not so  good


The benchmark tool is on the main bot configuration page where it says "Backtest Tradebot"

The back test seems to show reliable but I've not enabled the trading.  I'm just watching it right now since this software has already cost me several hundreds of dollars in last update.
newbie
Activity: 38
Merit: 0
where is a benchmark/backtest tool on 0.9.7.0 Huh
I only loose money so far  Sad
but may be due to not known prameters in config
MACD 23 / 43 and 4 min and ROC with Cryptsy LTC/Btc  is not so  good
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0


Maybe I am wrong, so can someone explain me what is happening here? Why there is so huge difference between STB and bitcoinwisdom, when all indicators are set EXACTLY same way?? It seems to be OK for first look, but look at it cloer and You´ll find out that its money loosing machine..

Yeah welcome to my hell.  This software will trade you 180 degrees out of your position.  

I'm not quite sure wtf these developers are thinking with this garbage.  This has been my main complaint the whole time.

To be fair, since I am only just now getting the update for whatever reason, I will have a look at it again.

Personally I kinda feel fucked over here on this software.  That may or may not change depending on this update.


THE EDIT INDICATOR PAGE SHOULD SHOW WHICH TRADE BOT YOU ARE EDITING!  BREADCRUMBS? TITLETAG?


sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
I´ve got a picture! Haha!
Hi g0re79 ,
In order for me to try to recreate could you tell us what exchange you are using for the pictures?
I dont see one in the pictures, I guess btc-e ?

Thanks for PM info, really appreciated that. Mea culpa I did not screenshot full picture, but its wrote on upper right corner - BTCe BTC/USD based on 15 min intervals (right as STB is set).
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