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Here is the only settings I've been able to get working.  I've tried to save the log but that does not work.  Copy to clip board or save to txt file.  

On a 600sec (10min) interval I use one indicator with standard advance settings.

MACD-MA set at 9-11 with a 40 interval

Start the logging near a low in price helps

Looking at the setting it just snipes every 'up and down' piling many small gains while holding onto a few runs making a few good gains.  
It does trigger fast, but stays course on steady moves thus keeping the bot rolling more often then other cases.  In otherwords it has performed best for me.  

I cleared everything last night and will run it again see how it does for a few more days

This only works because of the min drop/raise

Adding any other indicator to this the bot gets stuck  Undecided

Part of the problem is all of his indicators are short term.  They all measure momentum in different ways.  

sr. member
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ok i see.

but when i set the update timer on 5m it updates every 5 minutes right? so how does it comply with ROC or RSI indicators? i thought for that it would be good to have shorter interval updates to get a better momentum.

Bitcoinwisdom shows the time charts i ask for but also updates every 5 sec. the candles.
Personally i look for EMA 2hr. short=4 long=7 setup for the bot and cant do that.

For the pump my bot was selling high (hurra) based on the ROC. The price dropped and catched up, triggered a buy,executed a buy, fell all the way back and came into drop loss protection, sent sell signal. sell signal came to late price dropped further.Sell order was placed. Couldn't buy back in because of drop loss protection and un-executed sell order. At the end the bot was stuck on a high sell and the later price was way below.
That why i ask for checking for open order and in case cancel and resell before you come under your buy price. otherwise you will be stuck and experience bad losses.

When we all get a better idea how the indicators are relatad and working according to updates then we can improve.
Tips like buy low high low we have in trollbox and dont really need.  Grin

i still think and fell we can get an working bot as far as we paid or and bought.

thanks for your previous reply.
newbie
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[quoteHow are the MACD indicators set that i can adjust 1/3/5/15/1hr and 2hr charts and still update every 20seconds?][/quote]

Are you asking how to view different time charts?  I don't think that's a capability within the bot itself...  The interval you set is the interval that will show in the charts and it will also be the base interval used by your indicators.

If you just want to be able to monitor different chart times, you're best off using a website like bitcoinwisdom, or something similar.  Just set your updates on the bot to whatever is most profitable for your indicator set up.  Word of advice though, 20s refresh is almost never profitable.  I've found that going with 300s or higher is where you see more consistent trading and less chance of having sold right before a pump.
sr. member
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After further testing with the bot:

i was able to change the + and - on the ROC. Sometimes it switches on the indicator chart but now not no more. In the window where to adjust the ROC rate it show buy = -0.005 and sell=0.005 ( i guess this is what we need). In the chart it says green (buy on 0.005) and sell (red) on -0.005. This really sucks...

How are the MACD indicators set that i can adjust 1/3/5/15/1hr and 2hr charts and still update every 20seconds?

Further there is no option when a trade order is placed and not filled. There has to be a cancellation automatically when the price goes up or down close the the buy/sale price initially executed to avoid high losses on pumps.


In backtrading (benchmark) when i load a file it changes the indicators on the trading page and changes the previous adjustment.
As well a benchmark that i have to run for days to get graphs to check settings is funny as well.

Stephan,
I think paid a lot of money in relation to to what i have received. And clearly no  it is not that i want a trading software and expect it to make profit of the box, but i can expect that the software works and for no additional money the bugs are in there have to be fixed. No its not lack of knowledge or knowing how to set up a trading bot.

Now all people that say the software works post your benchmark results and prove. and not only 2 trades, longterm pls.!

For Stephan,

we are all willed to pay for what we get but keep it right, fix the version you have provided and we all bought and provide the fixes to us for free.
Upgrade your option 1 + 2 and take your charge which i am willed to pay once the version i have works fine. But stay right and i am sure the bot will take off with the support of the community.

But for now i am very dissapointed as a customer.



sr. member
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Can someone explain hot to have the bot react on 3/15/30 and specially on 2hr. candles?

The ROC is flipped so i guess we have to change + and minus. i asked for that earlier but go no satisfying anser...

thx
hero member
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Ok been working on this ROC for a long time.  I think these numbers are backwards.

Edit Rate of Change Window:
Buy at Value +0.005
Sell at Value -0.005

Those values always gets bot to buy high and sell low.  If i switch them it just causes strange stuff.

Please shed some light on this cause I'm really tired of trying to Cry



gets bot to buy high and sell low.
that is a best trading strategy  Grin
But seriously - I changed the plus and minus
member
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Was just wondering more about these indicators in STB

Why is the PPO included in the list?   The PPO is exactly the same as a standard MACD.

Both indicators are based on 2 moving averages - minus their differences.  The Macd is displayed as an interger, while the PPO is displayed as a percentage.
The PPO is used to compare 2 different securities to find out which one is moving stronger then the other.

 Huh


And while I'm on this subject why isn't a SMA/EMA indicator included?

Hoping for some good answers  Cool
member
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Ok been working on this ROC for a long time.  I think these numbers are backwards.

Edit Rate of Change Window:
Buy at Value +0.005
Sell at Value -0.005

Those values always gets bot to buy high and sell low.  If i switch them it just causes strange stuff.

Please shed some light on this cause I'm really tired of trying to Cry

member
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@papasmurph:

A word of advice:
- Setup a trade-bot with a lot of ROC indicators assigned to it.
- Edit each ROC and change the reference point. Give them all unique values.
> Leave it running or start the benchmark tool, as long as you collect some data then thats good.
- Now scroll though the charts produced by the ROC indicators, watch the differences at the charts. I am sure you will see a pattern you like.
- Once you have a pattern you may want adjust the min and max of the indicator to tune it a bit.
- Now setup 1 trade bot only with 1 ROC assigned to it, nothing more.
- Activate, wait and  Grin

If you tune the min and max properly then there is no more need for the fee-overcome safety. But by default i recommend to leave it the safety on, just to be sure.


Edit:
I am late with the mails, but if you are reading this already before i send the mail to you, please scroll up to my last post to see the details.

Thank you Stephan224 for your explaination and how to get it working on the ROC Indicator.  Just did some reading on ROC.  The Interval Length of the ROC Indicator is the close of #intervals ago.  

This bot is far from Simple !

Things just got more complicated lulz nightmare time
newbie
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Blah, Blah, Blah,

What's the price for NEW Customers ?
sr. member
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This was a thank you, then you edited the post to screw over your old customers. Along with insulting me by claiming that I wasn't a customer, instead of asking me directly. If you want new customers to pay your high prices, they better not think that there will be no future support and that you don't keep your promises. I have a lot of customers that I could refer to your software, but instead, I could be warning them to stay away.
sr. member
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You are totally right CryptoMaster, that is what i said before. I also said i was unsure. But i am happy to compensate you and a few other who i told before. Send me the proof and i will keep my end of the deal.

And to will be fair to you too: this is the first time i start a company. Its all new to me and it does not work the way i thought it would. Initially i wanted this update to be totally free. Why? Well, all the changes are based on the suggestions from the users. Giving back seems fair to me. But i was unable to make that work. This is the best what i could to.

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I assume in this option we will not get any of the new features, so is it hardly an option?

Why exactly? The software is running good and as long as the API is maintained there are no issues, or am i wrong here?


Edit:
You are all totally right. Alright, i will get back on this with a solution.


Edit/Update:
The 4th option is the same as the first option.

If you choose option 1, stay at the STBot then i will send you a update somewhere in the coming weeks. The update contains the new software. BUT it will be totally cut back to the functionality of the current Simple Trade Bot and the promises i have made. This way i keep my word on the update & changes.

I guess i am in luck i did not told to much before...


The new website will be online in a few hours, the first bulk of coupons have been send. Thank you very much!
newbie
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Hi Stephan,

I'm confused as well  Huh
Looks like we suddenly have to buy the huge update, this is not what you promised before.
I did go back in the posts and pasted some snippets of you.


i have a huge suprice in store for all the Simple Bot users. There will be a update, an update you have never seen before. Some of you know what i did before when we went from v0.8 to v0.9. Well this is what you can expect. I will not disclose more hits about this. But it will be big.

Secondly, i will give all the existing users of the Simple Trade Bot a huge update. I will be introducing lots new features and things to improve the trading in overall. Due this huge update i need to go up a little bit in price for the Simple Trade Bot. So new people who come in and after January 2014 will need to pay more for the same software. (Sorry, but it will be worth it. Take my word in that)

Please do not worry about a update because i will give every Simple Trade Bot user a update in January. For the advanced bot i will offer a discounted price fore the people how already own the simple bot.

It seems i was i little unclear about the offer. Let me first ensure you there is nothing to worry about, i will not ask you to buy the software again. From the beginning i promissed everybody will get updates and they are free of charge. This stays the same, its my power and i will stick behind it. However i was only talking about an offer in ways of a symbolic payment. So this is in the ranges of 1 euro or 1 dollar. The only reason why i must ask this is because of registration, no more no less. Its a side effect from my part of going legal with this software*.



sr. member
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You promised an update to the new version when we purchased the old one. I only bought it a few weeks ago, hardly used it because it was lacking a lot of features and I figured I would just learn the new system  when you released the update. $40 for something that should have been a free update isn't what you promised. Take care of your old customers, the people who made it possible for you to continue making new software. Make it .01, make it .005. Just don't lie about it.

BTW mandatory donations are just purchases. Calling it a donation changes nothing, when you didn't have the option to not make the payment.
newbie
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Option 2. Renew your license, get a copy of the Haasonline Trade Server, Simple license and enjoy 3 trade-bots instead of 2. This will cost 0.05 BTC.


Sorry but this is not what you had said before. You mentioned it would be an irrelevant amount just to go legal, you even mentioned something like 1€ if I remember correctly (I don't feel like going back in the posts to check). Now however it's around 40$. That's not quite the same that you had previously mentioned.

I also have a company and you can make the invoices for 1 cent, if you want to. So I find no real justification for that price, at least go openly and say 'I want to make profit in this update' and then I will still be pissed but at least it will be closer to the truth. Sorry if I sound harsh, I just feel like you have told us one thing and done another.


Option 1. You can stay at the Simple Trade Bot. I will keep it updated and running. This cost nothing. (only difference: you can not login, support & download goes by mail)


I assume in this option we will not get any of the new features, so is it hardly an option?
sr. member
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thx Stephan. let me check.
sr. member
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Software developer
@papasmurph:

A word of advice:
- Setup a trade-bot with a lot of ROC indicators assigned to it.
- Edit each ROC and change the reference point. Give them all unique values.
> Leave it running or start the benchmark tool, as long as you collect some data then thats good.
- Now scroll though the charts produced by the ROC indicators, watch the differences at the charts. I am sure you will see a pattern you like.
- Once you have a pattern you may want adjust the min and max of the indicator to tune it a bit.
- Now setup 1 trade bot only with 1 ROC assigned to it, nothing more.
- Activate, wait and  Grin

If you tune the min and max properly then there is no more need for the fee-overcome safety. But by default i recommend to leave it the safety on, just to be sure.


Edit:
I am late with the mails, but if you are reading this already before i send the mail to you, please scroll up to my last post to see the details.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Hello All,

can someone explain me the ROC relation?
I try to understand the indikator:
buy level > 0.005  sell level < -0.005 gives me the sell trigger (red) at - and the buy trigger (green) at +. After a while running on base settings with MACD,RSI and Stochastic it didn't do nothing. So i watched the signals and when all was on  on red (sell) ROC indikator was on green (buy) and vice versa. Should i change buy to - and sell to +?

So far the bot gave small profits and no significant losses.. Thats good.

Thx.
sr. member
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Software developer
@silverston:
A trial has not been planned, but maybe i will add it later on. Do not worry, there will be a lot of information available about the new software (including some reviews are to be expected very soon, its being reviewed as we speak now)

@drawingthesun:
You are pointing out a strong point of the software i make compared to others. This software runs locally at your computer, not mine. (its a local webserver, driven by a EXE) I do no see what you are doing, and i sure do not want to know. Thats your thing, thats private. All things you set will just remain at your computer, trade-bots, credentials nothing is send to me.

Yes the software connects to my server here, this is done for 3 reasons. First to validate your license, second to read the fetched prices and third to check for updates. All connections to my server are encrypted with SSL and the license information i store here is made anonymous.

You are of course free to analyse the webtraffic to my server, its encrypted but based on then length you can see i am not sending or receiving much. It really all very basic and all for the best.

Of course you could block the connecting to my webserver, but the license will fail and the software will not start.
legendary
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I am a little delayed... sorry. That is way i mentioned 2 dates, to have some additional time if needed.

But things are going well here, i just put a hold on the sales of the Simple Trade Bot to avoid getting a lot of sales on the last moment. I am very sure this would have happens if i posted this.

In short the mail i will be sending out will contain the following offer (and instructions):

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Because of legal reasons i can not give everybody an update for free, as some of you know already i am getting legal with this software and everything. So i made 3 offers.

Option 1. You can stay at the Simple Trade Bot. I will keep it updated and running. This cost nothing. (only difference: you can not login, support & download goes by mail)

Option 2. Renew your license, get a copy of the Haasonline Trade Server, Simple license and enjoy 3 trade-bots instead of 2. This will cost 0.05 BTC.

Option 3. Upgrade your license, get a copy of the Haasonline Trade Server, Advanced license and enjoy as may trade-bots as your hardware can handle. The will cost the price difference between the Simple and Advanced Licence.

For option 1 you do not have to do a thing. For option 2 and 3 i ask to respond per mail with your choose. We will be making a coupon for you so you can order the software normally but for the right price.

The offers remain valid till the end of February. So take your time and have a look first.

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On the 20th the new website will come online and everything will be disclosed.

BTW the new website will have a poll for submitting exchanges or features to be added.

Is the trade server a service that must always connect to you or is it a software we can run on our own computers without being watched?

I am not interested in another "service" where all my trades and progress is reported back to you.
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