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citronick

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Quote from: rs1x on January 12, 2018, 11:16:05 AM

@cintronick - Help me understand how to choose a pool, please. You mention Nannopool, but for some silly reason I chose Flypool.

Is it generally better to look for pools that have LESS or MORE workers?

I use Nanopool for XMR and ZEC if I want to mine direct -- otherwise the farm will sell hash at NH.

Nanopool is quite good because its has global nodes and can select nodes closest to my rigs.

So far so good... and the interface and reporting is quite accurate too.

I am sure Flypool is ok too - tried it once but I didn't stay long -- maybe they were too new at that time.

Definitely go for pools that has MORE workers -- its sad to see good pools struggling to get blocks.

Need to maximize your hash power, so a good pool needs awesome pool hashpower and plenty of blocks.

rs1x

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@cintronick - Help me understand how to choose a pool, please. You mention Nannopool, but for some silly reason I chose Flypool.

Is it generally better to look for pools that have LESS or MORE workers?

R0mi

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Theranos Coin - IoT + micro-blood arrays = Moon!

Quote from: dragonmike on January 12, 2018, 10:47:09 AM

Quote from: citronick on January 12, 2018, 10:41:02 AM

Quote from: dragonmike on January 12, 2018, 10:08:12 AM

Guys, would like your opinion on the following please.

I'm going to help two work colleagues set up their first respective mining rigs next week (both identical 6x1080).
I'm struggling on what to set them up to mine, basically. As they have very little knowledge of the whole mining experience, the logical thing would be to get them an account on Nicehash and forget about it.

Unfortunately I don't like that option for 3 reasons:
- NH is taking massive fees
- They'd have to setup an account because mining to external addresses would just take ages for them to see their gains
- NH is not my friend anymore, generally, for well-known reasons

I could set them up with DSTM and mine ZEC, but they'd potentially be forfeiting 30-40% of potential earnings.

What do you reckon? Zpool equihash hub? Ahashpool Neoscrypt hub?

Why dont you mine direct to pools like nanapool -- send them to Bittrex and set the auto-sell on to convert to BTC automatically (or turn it off, and sell it when price is right).

NH do have steep charges for payouts but that's the price to pay to get BTC upfront and cut thru all the confirmation etc etc. NH is afterall a buyer/seller marketplace ... sometimes they will be very high payrates for certain hot coins etc. NH is not a mining pool....

No, NH isn't a mining pool per se. And I am likely going to avoid it.
Nanopool to Bittrex isn't a bad idea. What would you mine there?
Currently I'm leaning towards auto-switching algo on zpool or ahashpool (EDIT: or Miningpoolhub indeed).

A little off-topic, but has anyone tried out HiveOS? The unified pool/wallet template looks confusing at first, but the YouTube videos explain it. Very flexible, up to date on new miners. Just wondering how stable it is vs. SMOS.

R0mi

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Quote from: MagicSmoker on January 11, 2018, 05:47:53 AM

Quote from: VoskCoin on January 10, 2018, 06:45:18 PM

Hey guys sorry I've been so MIA lately T_T been trying to adjust after having my life/schedule flipped around last month (not a pity post, but seriously I miss being more active in this thread)

On a positive note I'm kind of impressed with the numbers the 1050 TI's put out for being old tech on equihash wi/ DSTM miner, these ASUS pulled ~190 sols @ 60 watts

I'm one of the many rooting for Tails!

The GTX 1050 Ti was my first mining GPU - because it was what was installed in my main desktop when I started. It didn't take me long to figure out that Equihash (and Neoscrypt - 460 H/s) are its strong points*. In fact, the Equihash performance - combined with not needing external PCIe power - makes it almost compelling. I would still be using it for Equihash except the fan went bad - new one on its way from China - and I have since bought an RX 570, (4) GTX 1060 3GB (chosen mainly because of availability), and a used GTX 1080 from a local store for the low-low price of MSRP... Roll Eyes

- Yes, I know Ethash is especially bad on the plain 1080, but it is an Equihash and Neoscrypt monster (it's churning out >1k H/s on the latter right now with just +300 on the memory clock).

* - Cryptonight performance, however, is especially terrible at around 385 H/s - my Ryzen 5 1600 is faster - while I could only manage about 13.4 MH/s with Ethash despite that this card has Samsung memory.

1050 Ti is nice if you are doing a 4U build and have one cramped slot, or simply want to place on the motherboard and space out your other cards up front.

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Quote from: rs1x on January 12, 2018, 10:12:06 AM

Quote from: dragonmike on January 12, 2018, 10:08:12 AM

Guys, would like your opinion on the following please.

I'm going to help two work colleagues set up their first respective mining rigs next week (both identical 6x1080).
I'm struggling on what to set them up to mine, basically. As they have very little knowledge of the whole mining experience, the logical thing would be to get them an account on Nicehash and forget about it.

Unfortunately I don't like that option for 3 reasons:
- NH is taking massive fees
- They'd have to setup an account because mining to external addresses would just take ages for them to see their gains
- NH is not my friend anymore, generally, for well-known reasons

I could set them up with DSTM and mine ZEC, but they'd potentially be forfeiting 30-40% of potential earnings.

What do you reckon? Zpool equihash hub? Ahashpool Neoscrypt hub?

What woold be the disadvantage in mining zcash on flypool and using smos. That would be very simple setup and when they decide they want to mine other equihash stuff they can ?

I agree. Dead simple, rock solid. Explore options in the meantime.

citronick

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Quote from: dragonmike on January 12, 2018, 10:47:09 AM

Quote from: citronick on January 12, 2018, 10:41:02 AM

Quote from: dragonmike on January 12, 2018, 10:08:12 AM

Guys, would like your opinion on the following please.

I'm going to help two work colleagues set up their first respective mining rigs next week (both identical 6x1080).
I'm struggling on what to set them up to mine, basically. As they have very little knowledge of the whole mining experience, the logical thing would be to get them an account on Nicehash and forget about it.

Unfortunately I don't like that option for 3 reasons:
- NH is taking massive fees
- They'd have to setup an account because mining to external addresses would just take ages for them to see their gains
- NH is not my friend anymore, generally, for well-known reasons

I could set them up with DSTM and mine ZEC, but they'd potentially be forfeiting 30-40% of potential earnings.

What do you reckon? Zpool equihash hub? Ahashpool Neoscrypt hub?

Why dont you mine direct to pools like nanapool -- send them to Bittrex and set the auto-sell on to convert to BTC automatically (or turn it off, and sell it when price is right).

NH do have steep charges for payouts but that's the price to pay to get BTC upfront and cut thru all the confirmation etc etc. NH is afterall a buyer/seller marketplace ... sometimes they will be very high payrates for certain hot coins etc. NH is not a mining pool....

No, NH isn't a mining pool per se. And I am likely going to avoid it.
Nanopool to Bittrex isn't a bad idea. What would you mine there?
Currently I'm leaning towards auto-switching algo on zpool or ahashpool (EDIT: or Miningpoolhub indeed).

During the NH hack downtime, MPH is a good alternative (although their mining interface needs work).

No further comment on zpool and ahashpool - tried them both didn't like the results so I went to MPH.

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Quote from: nsummy on January 12, 2018, 10:49:34 AM

Quote from: dragonmike on January 12, 2018, 10:08:12 AM

Guys, would like your opinion on the following please.

I'm going to help two work colleagues set up their first respective mining rigs next week (both identical 6x1080).
I'm struggling on what to set them up to mine, basically. As they have very little knowledge of the whole mining experience, the logical thing would be to get them an account on Nicehash and forget about it.

Unfortunately I don't like that option for 3 reasons:
- NH is taking massive fees
- They'd have to setup an account because mining to external addresses would just take ages for them to see their gains
- NH is not my friend anymore, generally, for well-known reasons

I could set them up with DSTM and mine ZEC, but they'd potentially be forfeiting 30-40% of potential earnings.

What do you reckon? Zpool equihash hub? Ahashpool Neoscrypt hub?

I still think the logical thing to do would be to start them on Nicehash. Obviously you know that mining a specific coin isn't exactly set it and forget it. Price could crash, difficulty could skyrocket, etc. At least this way they could get an idea how different miners work and how different miners are better for certain coins. If you are new, Nicehash is a great learning tool. My advice probably wouldn't be the same if the person was starting with 1 or 2 cards, but 6 1080s seems like a big investment for knowing little to nothing.

Or I guess if you are deadset against Nicehash, I would consider using this: https://github.com/Sniffdog/Sniffdogminer/releases Its designed for 1080tis but I think its great for 1080s too

nsummy

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Quote from: dragonmike on January 12, 2018, 10:08:12 AM

Guys, would like your opinion on the following please.

I'm going to help two work colleagues set up their first respective mining rigs next week (both identical 6x1080).
I'm struggling on what to set them up to mine, basically. As they have very little knowledge of the whole mining experience, the logical thing would be to get them an account on Nicehash and forget about it.

Unfortunately I don't like that option for 3 reasons:
- NH is taking massive fees
- They'd have to setup an account because mining to external addresses would just take ages for them to see their gains
- NH is not my friend anymore, generally, for well-known reasons

I could set them up with DSTM and mine ZEC, but they'd potentially be forfeiting 30-40% of potential earnings.

What do you reckon? Zpool equihash hub? Ahashpool Neoscrypt hub?

I still think the logical thing to do would be to start them on Nicehash. Obviously you know that mining a specific coin isn't exactly set it and forget it. Price could crash, difficulty could skyrocket, etc. At least this way they could get an idea how different miners work and how different miners are better for certain coins. If you are new, Nicehash is a great learning tool. My advice probably wouldn't be the same if the person was starting with 1 or 2 cards, but 6 1080s seems like a big investment for knowing little to nothing.

dragonmike

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Quote from: citronick on January 12, 2018, 10:41:02 AM

Quote from: dragonmike on January 12, 2018, 10:08:12 AM

Guys, would like your opinion on the following please.

I'm going to help two work colleagues set up their first respective mining rigs next week (both identical 6x1080).
I'm struggling on what to set them up to mine, basically. As they have very little knowledge of the whole mining experience, the logical thing would be to get them an account on Nicehash and forget about it.

Unfortunately I don't like that option for 3 reasons:
- NH is taking massive fees
- They'd have to setup an account because mining to external addresses would just take ages for them to see their gains
- NH is not my friend anymore, generally, for well-known reasons

I could set them up with DSTM and mine ZEC, but they'd potentially be forfeiting 30-40% of potential earnings.

What do you reckon? Zpool equihash hub? Ahashpool Neoscrypt hub?

Why dont you mine direct to pools like nanapool -- send them to Bittrex and set the auto-sell on to convert to BTC automatically (or turn it off, and sell it when price is right).

NH do have steep charges for payouts but that's the price to pay to get BTC upfront and cut thru all the confirmation etc etc. NH is afterall a buyer/seller marketplace ... sometimes they will be very high payrates for certain hot coins etc. NH is not a mining pool....

No, NH isn't a mining pool per se. And I am likely going to avoid it.
Nanopool to Bittrex isn't a bad idea. What would you mine there?
Currently I'm leaning towards auto-switching algo on zpool or ahashpool (EDIT: or Miningpoolhub indeed).

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Quote from: dragonmike on January 12, 2018, 10:08:12 AM

Guys, would like your opinion on the following please.

I'm going to help two work colleagues set up their first respective mining rigs next week (both identical 6x1080).
I'm struggling on what to set them up to mine, basically. As they have very little knowledge of the whole mining experience, the logical thing would be to get them an account on Nicehash and forget about it.

Unfortunately I don't like that option for 3 reasons:
- NH is taking massive fees
- They'd have to setup an account because mining to external addresses would just take ages for them to see their gains
- NH is not my friend anymore, generally, for well-known reasons

I could set them up with DSTM and mine ZEC, but they'd potentially be forfeiting 30-40% of potential earnings.

What do you reckon? Zpool equihash hub? Ahashpool Neoscrypt hub?

If it were me, I'd set them up on Mining pool hub (MPH) to mine equihash.

Why?
1. MPH has low fees.
2. You can set auto exchange to any coin you want for your pay out. You can change this to a different coin anytime.
4. The auto exchange is convenient and costs very little.
3. You can check the dashboard, individual workers and especially graphs for the coins it's been mining to see how your rigs perform over time.

I'd use DSTM on SMOS and a setting like this:

--server us-east.equihash-hub.miningpoolhub.com --user username.workername --pass x --port 17023

or

alternatively, they can check whattomine and manually switch from one equihash coin to another by simply changing the last two digits of this :

--server us-east.equihash-hub.miningpoolhub.com --user username.workername --pass x --port 20575

The second option is what I do because I find auto switching on any pool and any algo causes too much hash rate loss. I tested autoswithcing on multiple pools.

Most of the time, I'm mining on 20575 which is ZCL as it's the most profitable lately.

citronick

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Quote from: dragonmike on January 12, 2018, 10:08:12 AM

Guys, would like your opinion on the following please.

I'm going to help two work colleagues set up their first respective mining rigs next week (both identical 6x1080).
I'm struggling on what to set them up to mine, basically. As they have very little knowledge of the whole mining experience, the logical thing would be to get them an account on Nicehash and forget about it.

Unfortunately I don't like that option for 3 reasons:
- NH is taking massive fees
- They'd have to setup an account because mining to external addresses would just take ages for them to see their gains
- NH is not my friend anymore, generally, for well-known reasons

I could set them up with DSTM and mine ZEC, but they'd potentially be forfeiting 30-40% of potential earnings.

What do you reckon? Zpool equihash hub? Ahashpool Neoscrypt hub?

Why dont you mine direct to pools like nanopool -- send them to Bittrex and set the auto-sell on to convert to BTC automatically (or turn it off, and sell it when price is right).

NH do have steep charges for payouts but that's the price to pay to get BTC upfront and cut thru all the confirmation etc etc. NH is afterall a buyer/seller marketplace ... sometimes they will be very high payrates for certain hot coins etc. NH is not a mining pool....

rs1x

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Quote from: dragonmike on January 12, 2018, 10:08:12 AM

Guys, would like your opinion on the following please.

I'm going to help two work colleagues set up their first respective mining rigs next week (both identical 6x1080).
I'm struggling on what to set them up to mine, basically. As they have very little knowledge of the whole mining experience, the logical thing would be to get them an account on Nicehash and forget about it.

Unfortunately I don't like that option for 3 reasons:
- NH is taking massive fees
- They'd have to setup an account because mining to external addresses would just take ages for them to see their gains
- NH is not my friend anymore, generally, for well-known reasons

I could set them up with DSTM and mine ZEC, but they'd potentially be forfeiting 30-40% of potential earnings.

What do you reckon? Zpool equihash hub? Ahashpool Neoscrypt hub?

What woold be the disadvantage in mining zcash on flypool and using smos. That would be very simple setup and when they decide they want to mine other equihash stuff they can ?

dragonmike

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Guys, would like your opinion on the following please.

I'm going to help two work colleagues set up their first respective mining rigs next week (both identical 6x1080).
I'm struggling on what to set them up to mine, basically. As they have very little knowledge of the whole mining experience, the logical thing would be to get them an account on Nicehash and forget about it.

Unfortunately I don't like that option for 3 reasons:
- NH is taking massive fees
- They'd have to setup an account because mining to external addresses would just take ages for them to see their gains
- NH is not my friend anymore, generally, for well-known reasons

I could set them up with DSTM and mine ZEC, but they'd potentially be forfeiting 30-40% of potential earnings.

What do you reckon? Zpool equihash hub? Ahashpool Neoscrypt hub?

MarkSinn

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Quote from: QuintLeo on January 11, 2018, 03:14:50 PM

Quote from: MarkSinn on January 11, 2018, 07:45:30 AM

any news of custom vega 56 ?

MSI had one up on NewEgg for a VERY short while but it's out of stock again.
A few others have been anounced but haven't seen them actually for sale yet even when listed.

Thanks, yeah and this year there aren't any new vega GPU

MagicSmoker

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Quote from: QuintLeo on January 11, 2018, 03:20:44 PM

Quote from: MagicSmoker on January 11, 2018, 05:47:53 AM

* - Cryptonight performance, however, is especially terrible at around 385 H/s - my Ryzen 5 1600 is faster - while I could only manage about 13.4 MH/s with Ethash despite that this card has Samsung memory.

50% better than the 750 ti that it replaced - and similar power usage if I remember correctly from postings folks have made about it.

But yes, quite a few of the Ryzen CPUs can do better - abet generally at same-to-HIGHER power usage.

HWInfo says my Ryzen 5 1600 draws an extra 52W while mining Cryptonight at ~400 H/s, while the TDP of the 1050 Ti is 75W, so the Ryzen wins in the hashes/W department as well.

But my point was more that the 1050 Ti really excels at Equihash so why use it on an algo it's only mediocre at like Cryptonight or Ethash?

Oh, I forgot, it's also relatively good at Lyra2v2 - my spreadsheet of benchmarks shows 14.8 ?H/s at 1860 core, 3800 mem, using ccminer-klausT (the ? is because I don't know what the correct units are - k, M, none at all?)

***

On a separate note, can someone give me the dimensions of the 6 slot D1800? I want to get started on a rack and I suspect the dimensions on the Alibaba listing are not even remotely correct (at least I hope that's the case - a "plate size" of 195mm x 374mm is smaller than Micro-ATX).

wolf_miner

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Hi, thanks a lot for your previous help.
Do you know if this case 4W-6O (waikey/ENFOLD - 4U 6 GPU Mining Rig Case for Onda D1800-BTC Motherboard) is available somewhere in Europe?

Cheers W_M

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Quote from: MagicSmoker on January 11, 2018, 05:47:53 AM

* - Cryptonight performance, however, is especially terrible at around 385 H/s - my Ryzen 5 1600 is faster - while I could only manage about 13.4 MH/s with Ethash despite that this card has Samsung memory.

50% better than the 750 ti that it replaced - and similar power usage if I remember correctly from postings folks have made about it.

But yes, quite a few of the Ryzen CPUs can do better - abet generally at same-to-HIGHER power usage.

QuintLeo

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Quote from: timeshifter on January 11, 2018, 03:09:43 AM

My gear is set up in my unfinished basement, about 28 feet away from the breakers. It's just where they ended up, near a workbench and where I had some portable shelving.

As I look to add new outlet(s) I was thinking I'd just put it next to the panel for now because it's easier. I saw someone mention EMI and other interference when you travel some distance, and I'll be pulling about 4400 watts, so it might be nice not to have all that right over my desk (my desk is between the panel and my shelving / workbench.

Is it a good idea to locate your mining rigs and power outlets right next to the breaker panel?

EMI is a non-factor. 60 hz doesn't generate enough EMI for computer gear to notice.

Close to a panel makes for shorter runs and slightly less IIR losses in the power feeds - it's not enough to be a big deal but it probably would save you a FEW watt-hours a month.

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Quote from: MarkSinn on January 11, 2018, 07:45:30 AM

any news of custom vega 56 ?

MSI had one up on NewEgg for a VERY short while but it's out of stock again.
A few others have been anounced but haven't seen them actually for sale yet even when listed.

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Quote from: VoskCoin on January 10, 2018, 06:45:18 PM

Hey guys sorry I've been so MIA lately T_T been trying to adjust after having my life/schedule flipped around last month (not a pity post, but seriously I miss being more active in this thread)

On a positive note I'm kind of impressed with the numbers the 1050 TI's put out for being old tech on equihash wi/ DSTM miner, these ASUS pulled ~190 sols @ 60 watts

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1050-ti-best-budget-gpu-or-bust-8x-gpu-rig-build-w-nvidia-1050-ti-zec-zen-zcl-2724055
my full post on it

Here's the video if any of you guys are interested

https://youtu.be/574KpZdpaVE

Anyone else using 1050 TI's? they are one of the only cards that's actually available lately. . lol

I bought one a couple of months ago for $120 from EVGA Wednesday deals. For its price its an absolute beast. Generally my 1070s only outperform it by 2.5x, making it probably the best bang for buck that you can get. And powering it from the mobo is another benefit. As someone else mentioned though, rig density is the bigger issue. I honestly don't know why they aren't discussed more often.

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