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sr. member
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September 22, 2016, 06:36:08 AM
#72
You don't need a crystal ball to know that trading begins in October Cheesy

if everyone knows it, won't happen. Welcome to the market my friend. Trading already begun long time ago on nxt  Wink

What do you mean trading won't happen in October? Smiley

I am talking about trading of Ardor token, it will be available for trading on October 12th on the NXT asset exchange.

You keep talking about NXT price. We're talking about different things, my friend Smiley
hero member
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September 22, 2016, 05:35:12 AM
#71
You don't need a crystal ball to know that trading begins in October Cheesy

if everyone knows it, won't happen. Welcome to the market my friend. Trading already begun long time ago on nxt  Wink
hero member
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September 21, 2016, 03:17:38 PM
#70
…wait, I'm confused. How are you able to get Ardor if you don't hold your NXT to the very end? I thought only those holding NXT at oct. 14th get Ardor?

Where did you read this? The Ardor announcement thread is the official information source for Ardor, don't read the Poloniex trollbox.

We have 3 weeks of Ardor snapshots left to flow into balances until trading of Ardor starts. Wow, I just realized this, 3 weeks only. Soon it will be a healthy bit less boring, Ardor speculation will be fun to play till Q3 2017.
1 Ardor should easily be >= 1 NXT.

I can't really remember, where I read this. I guess, I just assumed… Dunno how I got to that conclusion, though.
sr. member
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September 21, 2016, 12:16:22 PM
#69
You don't need a crystal ball to know that trading begins in October Cheesy
hero member
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September 21, 2016, 11:57:56 AM
#68
…wait, I'm confused. How are you able to get Ardor if you don't hold your NXT to the very end? I thought only those holding NXT at oct. 14th get Ardor?

Where did you read this? The Ardor announcement thread is the official information source for Ardor, don't read the Poloniex trollbox.

We have 3 weeks of Ardor snapshots left to flow into balances until trading of Ardor starts. Wow, I just realized this, 3 weeks only. Soon it will be a healthy bit less boring, Ardor speculation will be fun to play till Q3 2017.
1 Ardor should easily be >= 1 NXT.

Could you care to elaborate the bold sentence ? this has no meaning unless you state the price of one NXT

Ardor will be traded on the NXT asset exchange, prices will be in NXT.
One or few centralized exchanges may or may not add trading of Ardor priced in satoshi.

Initially to buy Ardor you will need NXT. I don't care what price of NXT will be, I am talking what price of Ardor in NXT can easily be because it's so important to the future 2.0 platform. I don't see why it shouldn't be >= 1 NXT. Now since you obviously only care about satoshi price, I'll let you do math on it, since my concern is the long play that the 2.0 platform promises vs short term satoshi gains.

Great, another asset that will create the ponzi we've seen for all valuable asset of nxt (which imo are not that valuable). When nxt pump, they pump, when next sink, they sink...
Fiat or at least BTC integration is the goal here my friend.

You ought to wait for the top price and sell all of your Ardor if you hold any and don't believe it will be useful in the future. The opportunity presents itself as early as October. Only a 3 week wait, my friend, be patient and you'll be able to offload it all very soon.

Please sell me your crystal ball  Roll Eyes
sr. member
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September 21, 2016, 11:14:17 AM
#67
…wait, I'm confused. How are you able to get Ardor if you don't hold your NXT to the very end? I thought only those holding NXT at oct. 14th get Ardor?

Where did you read this? The Ardor announcement thread is the official information source for Ardor, don't read the Poloniex trollbox.

We have 3 weeks of Ardor snapshots left to flow into balances until trading of Ardor starts. Wow, I just realized this, 3 weeks only. Soon it will be a healthy bit less boring, Ardor speculation will be fun to play till Q3 2017.
1 Ardor should easily be >= 1 NXT.

Could you care to elaborate the bold sentence ? this has no meaning unless you state the price of one NXT

Ardor will be traded on the NXT asset exchange, prices will be in NXT.
One or few centralized exchanges may or may not add trading of Ardor priced in satoshi.

Initially to buy Ardor you will need NXT. I don't care what price of NXT will be, I am talking what price of Ardor in NXT can easily be because it's so important to the future 2.0 platform. I don't see why it shouldn't be >= 1 NXT. Now since you obviously only care about satoshi price, I'll let you do math on it, since my concern is the long play that the 2.0 platform promises vs short term satoshi gains.

Great, another asset that will create the ponzi we've seen for all valuable asset of nxt (which imo are not that valuable). When nxt pump, they pump, when next sink, they sink...
Fiat or at least BTC integration is the goal here my friend.

You ought to wait for the top price and sell all of your Ardor if you hold any and don't believe it will be useful in the future. The opportunity presents itself as early as October. Only a 3 week wait, my friend, be patient and you'll be able to offload it all very soon.
hero member
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September 21, 2016, 11:09:16 AM
#66
…wait, I'm confused. How are you able to get Ardor if you don't hold your NXT to the very end? I thought only those holding NXT at oct. 14th get Ardor?

Where did you read this? The Ardor announcement thread is the official information source for Ardor, don't read the Poloniex trollbox.

We have 3 weeks of Ardor snapshots left to flow into balances until trading of Ardor starts. Wow, I just realized this, 3 weeks only. Soon it will be a healthy bit less boring, Ardor speculation will be fun to play till Q3 2017.
1 Ardor should easily be >= 1 NXT.

Could you care to elaborate the bold sentence ? this has no meaning unless you state the price of one NXT

Ardor will be traded on the NXT asset exchange, prices will be in NXT.
One or few centralized exchanges may or may not add trading of Ardor priced in satoshi.

Initially to buy Ardor you will need NXT. I don't care what price of NXT will be, I am talking what price of Ardor in NXT can easily be because it's so important to the future 2.0 platform. I don't see why it shouldn't be >= 1 NXT. Now since you obviously only care about satoshi price, I'll let you do math on it, since my concern is the long play that the 2.0 platform promises vs short term satoshi gains.

Great, another asset that will create the ponzi we've seen for all valuable asset of nxt (which imo are not that valuable). When nxt pump, they pump, when next sink, they sink...
Fiat or at least BTC integration is the goal here my friend.
sr. member
Activity: 406
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September 21, 2016, 10:46:05 AM
#65
…wait, I'm confused. How are you able to get Ardor if you don't hold your NXT to the very end? I thought only those holding NXT at oct. 14th get Ardor?

Where did you read this? The Ardor announcement thread is the official information source for Ardor, don't read the Poloniex trollbox.

We have 3 weeks of Ardor snapshots left to flow into balances until trading of Ardor starts. Wow, I just realized this, 3 weeks only. Soon it will be a healthy bit less boring, Ardor speculation will be fun to play till Q3 2017.
1 Ardor should easily be >= 1 NXT.

Could you care to elaborate the bold sentence ? this has no meaning unless you state the price of one NXT

Ardor will be traded on the NXT asset exchange, prices will be in NXT.
One or few centralized exchanges may or may not add trading of Ardor priced in satoshi.

Initially to buy Ardor you will need NXT. I don't care what price of NXT will be, I am talking what price of Ardor in NXT can easily be because it's so important to the future 2.0 platform. I don't see why it shouldn't be >= 1 NXT. Now since you obviously only care about satoshi price, I'll let you do math on it, since my concern is the long play that the 2.0 platform promises vs short term satoshi gains.
hero member
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September 21, 2016, 10:38:10 AM
#64
…wait, I'm confused. How are you able to get Ardor if you don't hold your NXT to the very end? I thought only those holding NXT at oct. 14th get Ardor?

Where did you read this? The Ardor announcement thread is the official information source for Ardor, don't read the Poloniex trollbox.

We have 3 weeks of Ardor snapshots left to flow into balances until trading of Ardor starts. Wow, I just realized this, 3 weeks only. Soon it will be a healthy bit less boring, Ardor speculation will be fun to play till Q3 2017.
1 Ardor should easily be >= 1 NXT.

Could you care to elaborate the bold sentence ? this has no meaning unless you state the price of one NXT
sr. member
Activity: 406
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September 21, 2016, 10:12:34 AM
#63
…wait, I'm confused. How are you able to get Ardor if you don't hold your NXT to the very end? I thought only those holding NXT at oct. 14th get Ardor?

Where did you read this? The Ardor announcement thread is the official information source for Ardor, don't read the Poloniex trollbox.

We have 3 weeks of Ardor snapshots left to flow into balances until trading of Ardor starts. Wow, I just realized this, 3 weeks only. Soon it will be a healthy bit less boring, Ardor speculation will be fun to play till Q3 2017.
1 Ardor should easily be >= 1 NXT.
hero member
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September 21, 2016, 08:44:35 AM
#62
Now you are just making up reasons thru your metaphors. But ok I will wait for that "NXT car" and let us see how it will go.

So from your final question you are clearly saying multi million dollar companies have no use for NXT. At least in that we both agree.

I can't wait myself to test the car prototype, understand your impatience Smiley

It would be utter nonsense to believe multi million dollar companies care about decentralized cryptocurrency. They will have their own custom centralized ledgers if their workflow requires them.

Decentralized cryptocurrency is for "we, the people" and for small companies, communities who can't afford to create and maintain their own ledgers. The latter is clientele of the Nxt 2.0 platform - they get help and outsource the need for a secure and reliable ledger to professionals. Similar to how they outsource other specialized jobs to contractors. The Nxt 2.0 "car" will carry much more than the Nxt 1.0 "motorcycle". Many of us love to have fun riding bicycles too, can't take that away.

That remains to be seen my friend. Until we see the day that the "NXT car" is being used effectively in the real world in a massive scale then it is all hype for now. Also the hype seems to be waning because look at the price of NXT it is going down. If you use that as a barometer it could mean that there is no interest in Ardor.

Also I advice everyone to look at this whole situation with care because it could be an exit strategy by the people behind NXT. So far it is not working because the price did not go up big.

I agree that it remains to be seen. As all serious investments this one is a long play. If it was fast, easy and surefire, there would be no honor in winning. The price is going down and it's not unexpected: a lot of people bought NXT for a short play to gain some Ardor and sell before the snapshot period is over. They will not get full amount of Ardor because they sell early, from their actions they probably don't care about the technology and it's alright, not everyone must or can. There are also investors who don't sell early, they need their full Ardor balance and then some after it starts trading on exchanges.

…wait, I'm confused. How are you able to get Ardor if you don't hold your NXT to the very end? I thought only those holding NXT at oct. 14th get Ardor?

exactly, well orchestrated pump. Made quite a few benefits on Nxt and now got free ardors. It may be worth it to jump in for ignis and another last pump, but for the moment I am not touching this falling knife.
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September 21, 2016, 08:38:04 AM
#61
Now you are just making up reasons thru your metaphors. But ok I will wait for that "NXT car" and let us see how it will go.

So from your final question you are clearly saying multi million dollar companies have no use for NXT. At least in that we both agree.

I can't wait myself to test the car prototype, understand your impatience Smiley

It would be utter nonsense to believe multi million dollar companies care about decentralized cryptocurrency. They will have their own custom centralized ledgers if their workflow requires them.

Decentralized cryptocurrency is for "we, the people" and for small companies, communities who can't afford to create and maintain their own ledgers. The latter is clientele of the Nxt 2.0 platform - they get help and outsource the need for a secure and reliable ledger to professionals. Similar to how they outsource other specialized jobs to contractors. The Nxt 2.0 "car" will carry much more than the Nxt 1.0 "motorcycle". Many of us love to have fun riding bicycles too, can't take that away.

That remains to be seen my friend. Until we see the day that the "NXT car" is being used effectively in the real world in a massive scale then it is all hype for now. Also the hype seems to be waning because look at the price of NXT it is going down. If you use that as a barometer it could mean that there is no interest in Ardor.

Also I advice everyone to look at this whole situation with care because it could be an exit strategy by the people behind NXT. So far it is not working because the price did not go up big.

I agree that it remains to be seen. As all serious investments this one is a long play. If it was fast, easy and surefire, there would be no honor in winning. The price is going down and it's not unexpected: a lot of people bought NXT for a short play to gain some Ardor and sell before the snapshot period is over. They will not get full amount of Ardor because they sell early, from their actions they probably don't care about the technology and it's alright, not everyone must or can. There are also investors who don't sell early, they need their full Ardor balance and then some after it starts trading on exchanges.

…wait, I'm confused. How are you able to get Ardor if you don't hold your NXT to the very end? I thought only those holding NXT at oct. 14th get Ardor?
sr. member
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September 21, 2016, 03:14:35 AM
#60
Now you are just making up reasons thru your metaphors. But ok I will wait for that "NXT car" and let us see how it will go.

So from your final question you are clearly saying multi million dollar companies have no use for NXT. At least in that we both agree.

I can't wait myself to test the car prototype, understand your impatience Smiley

It would be utter nonsense to believe multi million dollar companies care about decentralized cryptocurrency. They will have their own custom centralized ledgers if their workflow requires them.

Decentralized cryptocurrency is for "we, the people" and for small companies, communities who can't afford to create and maintain their own ledgers. The latter is clientele of the Nxt 2.0 platform - they get help and outsource the need for a secure and reliable ledger to professionals. Similar to how they outsource other specialized jobs to contractors. The Nxt 2.0 "car" will carry much more than the Nxt 1.0 "motorcycle". Many of us love to have fun riding bicycles too, can't take that away.

That remains to be seen my friend. Until we see the day that the "NXT car" is being used effectively in the real world in a massive scale then it is all hype for now. Also the hype seems to be waning because look at the price of NXT it is going down. If you use that as a barometer it could mean that there is no interest in Ardor.

Also I advice everyone to look at this whole situation with care because it could be an exit strategy by the people behind NXT. So far it is not working because the price did not go up big.

I agree that it remains to be seen. As all serious investments this one is a long play. If it was fast, easy and surefire, there would be no honor in winning. The price is going down and it's not unexpected: a lot of people bought NXT for a short play to gain some Ardor and sell before the snapshot period is over. They will not get full amount of Ardor because they sell early, from their actions they probably don't care about the technology and it's alright, not everyone must or can. There are also investors who don't sell early, they need their full Ardor balance and then some after it starts trading on exchanges.
legendary
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September 21, 2016, 03:06:33 AM
#59
Now you are just making up reasons thru your metaphors. But ok I will wait for that "NXT car" and let us see how it will go.

So from your final question you are clearly saying multi million dollar companies have no use for NXT. At least in that we both agree.

I can't wait myself to test the car prototype, understand your impatience Smiley

It would be utter nonsense to believe multi million dollar companies care about decentralized cryptocurrency. They will have their own custom centralized ledgers if their workflow requires them.

Decentralized cryptocurrency is for "we, the people" and for small companies, communities who can't afford to create and maintain their own ledgers. The latter is clientele of the Nxt 2.0 platform - they get help and outsource the need for a secure and reliable ledger to professionals. Similar to how they outsource other specialized jobs to contractors. The Nxt 2.0 "car" will carry much more than the Nxt 1.0 "motorcycle". Many of us love to have fun riding bicycles too, can't take that away.

That remains to be seen my friend. Until we see the day that the "NXT car" is being used effectively in the real world in a massive scale then it is all hype for now. Also the hype seems to be waning because look at the price of NXT it is going down. If you use that as a barometer it could mean that there is no interest in Ardor.

Also I advice everyone to look at this whole situation with care because it could be an exit strategy by the people behind NXT. So far it is not working because the price did not go up big.
hero member
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September 20, 2016, 04:15:15 PM
#58
sfyl nxt holder.
sr. member
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September 20, 2016, 10:41:55 AM
#57
Now you are just making up reasons thru your metaphors. But ok I will wait for that "NXT car" and let us see how it will go.

So from your final question you are clearly saying multi million dollar companies have no use for NXT. At least in that we both agree.

I can't wait myself to test the car prototype, understand your impatience Smiley

It would be utter nonsense to believe multi million dollar companies care about decentralized cryptocurrency. They will have their own custom centralized ledgers if their workflow requires them.

Decentralized cryptocurrency is for "we, the people" and for small companies, communities who can't afford to create and maintain their own ledgers. The latter is clientele of the Nxt 2.0 platform - they get help and outsource the need for a secure and reliable ledger to professionals. Similar to how they outsource other specialized jobs to contractors. The Nxt 2.0 "car" will carry much more than the Nxt 1.0 "motorcycle". Many of us love to have fun riding bicycles too, can't take that away.
legendary
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September 20, 2016, 08:32:49 AM
#56
So NXT is a motorcycle. But is it really a good motorcycle? If it is then why is no one using it. The ones who are using the asset exchange are all amateurs and most of them are issued by anonymous people that cannot be trusted.

Let us face reality here. You say that NXT has the potential to be used by businesses and that it will change the world. I say that is all hype. Look at it nobody is using it and even with the news about Ardor the price of NXT is still falling right now. The interest in the platform is not enough from the people that matter. Why is this? Did it not occur to you that NXT might not be good enough for professional multi million dollar companies?

Nobody is using Nxt 1.0 because it seems few people need motorcycles, like in RL a car is preferred to a motorcycle, and in big cities bicycles can do the job almost just as well for distances are short (Bitcoin transfers value and this one trick pony is good enough for most people). Motorcycle is a hobbyist vehicle.

The next evolutionary step is a car. A car can transfer more people, it can be re-purposed for transportation of cargo, it can be turned into much more than a two-wheel vehicle (bicycle and motorcycle) can. But you can't go straight to a car, you invent an internal combustion engine, and it happened that the engine was attached to a motorcycle as a simpler first step. Nxt 2.0 engineers are designing a four-wheel vehicle with a modernized engine.

Why will professional established multi million dollar companies use cryptocurrency, any cryptocurrency but perhaps their own, again?

Now you are just making up reasons thru your metaphors. But ok I will wait for that "NXT car" and let us see how it will go.

So from your final question you are clearly saying multi million dollar companies have no use for NXT. At least in that we both agree.
sr. member
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September 20, 2016, 03:29:13 AM
#55
So NXT is a motorcycle. But is it really a good motorcycle? If it is then why is no one using it. The ones who are using the asset exchange are all amateurs and most of them are issued by anonymous people that cannot be trusted.

Let us face reality here. You say that NXT has the potential to be used by businesses and that it will change the world. I say that is all hype. Look at it nobody is using it and even with the news about Ardor the price of NXT is still falling right now. The interest in the platform is not enough from the people that matter. Why is this? Did it not occur to you that NXT might not be good enough for professional multi million dollar companies?

Nobody is using Nxt 1.0 because it seems few people need motorcycles, like in RL a car is preferred to a motorcycle, and in big cities bicycles can do the job almost just as well for distances are short (Bitcoin transfers value and this one trick pony is good enough for most people). Motorcycle is a hobbyist vehicle.

The next evolutionary step is a car. A car can transfer more people, it can be re-purposed for transportation of cargo, it can be turned into much more than a two-wheel vehicle (bicycle and motorcycle) can. But you can't go straight to a car, you invent an internal combustion engine, and it happened that the engine was attached to a motorcycle as a simpler first step. Nxt 2.0 engineers are designing a four-wheel vehicle with a modernized engine.

Why will professional established multi million dollar companies use cryptocurrency, any cryptocurrency but perhaps their own, again?
legendary
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September 20, 2016, 01:52:40 AM
#54
If we use your definition of legitimacy which is based purely on how many people use the technology today ignoring the potential of technology, NXT is less legit, few people use it compared to Bitcoin.

My definition of legitimacy is different.

But even in your definition in the eyes of most people in the world Bitcoin is not legit, because they don't use it. As I said 1 million is 1/7000th of the world population. 6999 out of 7000 don't care and don't think cryptocurrencies are legit. Now I'll let you go figure if your definition of what is legit holds any water.

So what are you saying? In your definition of "legit", bitcoin will not be really "legit" in your eyes and the eyes of the world? Because it has nothing "potentially new" to offer?

Remember my friend, what you brand as "potential" in the cryptosphere is also branded as hype by others. We have seen this happen many times here. In my research almost all of the platforms have no real world use cases. Even the powerful Ethereum has no real world use case.

I am also curious. Does your definition of legit make NXT more legit than bitcoin? Please explain.

I am saying that your definition of legit is very narrow.

Bitcoin is legit in my eyes because I use it quite often, but I am 1 of 7000 of world population.
The other 6999 out of 7000 people don't use it, they don't believe it's legit.

I use Bitcoin like I use a bicycle. It's good for some use but the potential is limited. Now NXT already has a motorcycle and is working on designing a car. Bicycle will always be with us and it's legit. Motorcycle is here and legit, but I like to invest in the potential of NXT engineers and designers to make a car because I know from their past work that they can. Will it be used I don't know, but I like to invest in technology.

So NXT is a motorcycle. But is it really a good motorcycle? If it is then why is no one using it. The ones who are using the asset exchange are all amateurs and most of them are issued by anonymous people that cannot be trusted.

Let us face reality here. You say that NXT has the potential to be used by businesses and that it will change the world. I say that is all hype. Look at it nobody is using it and even with the news about Ardor the price of NXT is still falling right now. The interest in the platform is not enough from the people that matter. Why is this? Did it not occur to you that NXT might not be good enough for professional multi million dollar companies?
hero member
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September 19, 2016, 04:34:56 PM
#53
#Ubuntu #PPA for Nxt:
https://launchpad.net/~nxtcrypto/+archive/ubuntu/nxt
#nomoreclicks : automated deployment for Ubuntu nodes
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