Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s - page 453. (Read 880461 times)

Check out the latest blog post on the HashFast website: https://hashfast.com/silicon-in-silicon-valley/.

The most recent information on KnC and < 28nm is in the 5th paragraph of their latest news update.

Volume just means non-prototype.  The article I linked to was a month old.  There are plenty of similar ones only days old.  The number of 20nm designs for the entire year is a couple dozen.  Did KNC secure one of those coveted slots I doubt it given the number of industry giants who likely will be excluded from 20nm in 2014.  

Still your first claim was:

I think we can agree
a) KNC said nothing of the such
b) March isn't even a possibility for 20nm.
c) 2014 isn't even a possibility for 16nm.

I put money on 2015 at the earliest you may disagree but at least you admit than any 1620nm in March sometime in 2014 is your assumption not a statement by KNC.

Hi all!

Check out the latest blog post on the HashFast website: https://hashfast.com/silicon-in-silicon-valley/.

Cheers,

The HashFast Team

So what? I personally can't even find a lawyer!

One more lie, added to the books!  I will never understand why, with lots of legitimate complaints people have against BFL, some people feel the need to lie about it and make up information.  It's absolutely mind boggling.

that doesn't mean they couldn't be.

actually, bitcoin mining asics would be an ideal asic for them to prove their fab and processes, as the bitcoin asics are very yield tolerant.  most of the die surface is repeated hashing engines, and if one or more is knocked out due to a defect it doesn't take down the whole chip...  so its actually advantageous for them to try out their new 20 and 16nm processes...

-- Jez

Yeah, but none of those 20nm designs are bitcoin miners.

confirms customers are taping out 20nm designs now and they've done quite a few already, and will start 16nm in 2014.

Gen2 will be a better 28nm chip. Gen3 will be 20nm/16nm. Simple. There is no 20nm or better in March.

Gen2 sometime in march, altech/knc announcing work already underway on 16/20nm designs.

Yes it was an assumption on my part. It may not be 16nm (looking now - too early/costly) but I think knc will have something to announce soon for 2014. 20nm in march might be a stretch but nothing is impossible.

Aside from the terrible use of English and bad formatting of the update, the key area is of course the substrate information.

"We’ve made key improvements to the design that can be incorporated even into those substrates that are already in manufacturing"

You have substrate in manufacturing and now realise you have an issue with it? Regardless you think you can modify those substrates with the 'improved' design.

"Even so, the latest delivery estimates for the modified, improved substrate design are three weeks from today. This means that we would be shipping our first rigs mid-December."

And you didn't know this 2 days ago when I emailed asking for a shipping update. You didn't know this 2 weeks ago when you were 'on schedule' for October shipping.  

Most importantly you didn't know this 4 weeks ago when I placed a large order. But wait, what is this I see in your email?

"So for the last several weeks, we've been engaged with an additional team to work on an additional substrate"

Ahhh you did know! But knowingly lied to me about it.

So what it boils down to is this:

"Essentially, we now have two teams racing to produce the best and fastest substrate. As soon as that is done, we'll marry the substrates to the finished wafer and begin assembly of the rigs."

Where have I heard this before... that's right... 2 weeks ago.

In reality... you still have NO CONFIRMED SOLUTION and are allegedly working with two teams to try and save your ass and ship something before the end of December.

So the fact remains, you DO NOT have a working substrate and CAN NOT advise when you will thus have NO IDEA when you will ship.

But hey, at least you are building the best quality machine... that will be one hell of a paper weight by January.

Do we know that for a fact?

Official Update to the Miner Protection Program™

    Posted on October 14, 2013
    by John Skrodenis   
    in Uncategorized   

We have received such a  positive response to the added benefit that the MPP will provide full modules for batches 2 & 3, that we have officially decided to extend this benefit to everyone covered by the HashFast Miner Protection Program™ in Batch 1.

This means that full modules will be made available to cover any MPP obligation to Batch 1 Baby Jet customers.  At that time, Hashfast will make empty rigs available for sale at competitive prices.

The MPP comes as complete boards (not raw chips).

I'm starting to be scared by the fact that everyone will ask for a refund because they will be unable to ship by the end of this year.
If this happens (at this point i really hope not), they will go bankrupt. (again, this will result in the first open source 28nm bitcoin chip! ftw!).