Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s - page 465. (Read 880461 times)
Actually I was wrong. The sale contract does discuss 'Guaranteed Delivery Dates'.
Lets be clear, there were no guaranteed delivery dates. There were implied delivery dates of shipping batch 1 to start 20th October, batch 2 mid November.
Dates related to when a refund would be available if machines were not shipped.
Dates related to when a refund would be available if machines were not shipped.
Yes and it is against U.S. law to deny a refund if you haven't shipped an item when there are no guaranteed delivery dates.
So how to find a lawyer to against the HashSLOW?
Working on contacting different consumer lawyers in California. You should too.
Also, make a complaint with the FTC
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/GettingStarted?NextQID=203&Url=%23%26panel1-6
Failfast had enough time to try to make things right. They clearly don't want to.
IceDrill IceDrill, where are you my loved IceDrill?
Why am i starting to believe that i will get an useful update today anyway? Stockholm's sindrome is taking over me.
Why am i starting to believe that i will get an useful update today anyway? Stockholm's sindrome is taking over me.
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Are you retarded?
No, it's just his job. Yes and it is against U.S. law to deny a refund if you haven't shipped an item when there are no guaranteed delivery dates.
That's nice. Good thing there are guaranteed delivery dates, such as Dec 31 for Batch One.
You keep ignoring the fact in which that particular date was not mentioned in their original Terms of Service.
Are you retarded?
Lets be clear, there were no guaranteed delivery dates. There were implied delivery dates of shipping batch 1 to start 20th October, batch 2 mid November.
Dates related to when a refund would be available if machines were not shipped.
Dates related to when a refund would be available if machines were not shipped.
Yes and it is against U.S. law to deny a refund if you haven't shipped an item when there are no guaranteed delivery dates.
So how to find a lawyer to against the HashSLOW?
Yes and it is against U.S. law to deny a refund if you haven't shipped an item when there are no guaranteed delivery dates.
That's nice. Good thing there are guaranteed delivery dates, such as Dec 31 for Batch One.
Number Two isn't an option until after Dec 31, the guaranteed delivery date, and only if HashFast then refuses to issue refunds.
The windows for THE ANTICIPATED BEGINNING OF shipping was October 20th-30th.
This isn't rocket science; you just want to manufacture an artificial legalistic-sounding reason to complain.
No reasonable person expected Batch One to be done shipping 10 days after the earliest possible date.
I fixed it for you anyway.
Now Icebreaker, lets see if you remember correctly... which one of the following was on Hashfasts website?
a) Shipping starts October 20th -30th.
b) We anticipate shipping to start October 20th to 30th. Hueueueue.
You won't get anything but legalese talk about how you agreed on the 31 Dec date, and that they are in line with that date.
I speak fluent legalese. It's my mother tongue.
This is plain English, not legalese:
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https://hashfast.com/checkout/terms-of-sale/
3. DELIVERY AND QUANTITIES.
Guaranteed Baby Jet Delivery Dates – Batch 1.
All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast’s first production batch are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013.
3. DELIVERY AND QUANTITIES.
Guaranteed Baby Jet Delivery Dates – Batch 1.
All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast’s first production batch are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013.
^^^This is a very simple sentence, easily comprehensible to even the thickest plank in the slow reader class.^^^
There is a subject (All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast’s first production batch) and a predicate (are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013).
Nothing is ambiguous; no parsing is required.
How stupid must one be to believe that "All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast’s first production batch are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013" is legalese?
It's not even written in a tiny font. There is no excuse for such misrepresentation. It's pure, fact-free FUD.
Except:
1) That text was NOT there when I made my order when HashFast first started selling BabyJets. It was added LATER when they added the mining protection program.
2) It conflicts with pretty much ALL their advertising and e-mails that claim a shipping date of between Oct 20 - 30.
3) I've talked to a lawyer that specializes in consumer issues. Since the shipping date is considered ambiguous (was it Oct 20-30 or Dec 31?) a judge would have to (legally) side with the customer and he would have to give him a refund.
Now that law may be hard to enforce without someone stepping up and suing HashFast, but the point is they CAN NOT deny a refund for a product they have not yet shipped.
Number Two isn't an option until after Dec 31, the guaranteed delivery date, and only if HashFast then refuses to issue refunds.
The windows for THE ANTICIPATED BEGINNING OF shipping was October 20th-30th.
This isn't rocket science; you just want to manufacture an artificial legalistic-sounding reason to complain.
No reasonable person expected Batch One to be done shipping 10 days after the earliest possible date.
I fixed it for you anyway.
Lets be clear, there were no guaranteed delivery dates. There were implied delivery dates of shipping batch 1 to start 20th October, batch 2 mid November.
Dates related to when a refund would be available if machines were not shipped.
Dates related to when a refund would be available if machines were not shipped.
Yes and it is against U.S. law to deny a refund if you haven't shipped an item when there are no guaranteed delivery dates.
What is the guranteed delivery date for batch#2?
You know what, the law said you must clearly show your return policy on your order, so this is the point we can have a lawyer to handle this BS!
Lets be clear, there were no guaranteed delivery dates. There were implied delivery dates of shipping batch 1 to start 20th October, batch 2 mid November.
Dates related to when a refund would be available if machines were not shipped.
Dates related to when a refund would be available if machines were not shipped.
You won't get anything but legalese talk about how you agreed on the 31 Dec date, and that they are in line with that date.
I speak fluent legalese. It's my mother tongue.
This is plain English, not legalese:
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https://hashfast.com/checkout/terms-of-sale/
3. DELIVERY AND QUANTITIES.
Guaranteed Baby Jet Delivery Dates – Batch 1.
All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast’s first production batch are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013.
3. DELIVERY AND QUANTITIES.
Guaranteed Baby Jet Delivery Dates – Batch 1.
All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast’s first production batch are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013.
^^^This is a very simple sentence, easily comprehensible to even the thickest plank in the slow reader class.^^^
There is a subject (All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast’s first production batch) and a predicate (are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013).
Nothing is ambiguous; no parsing is required.
How stupid must one be to believe that "All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast’s first production batch are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013" is legalese?
It's not even written in a tiny font. There is no excuse for such misrepresentation. It's pure, fact-free FUD.
Icebreaker, stop spreading this bullshit.
These terms were not on there on August 8th.
You're like hashfast's bitch version of Crumbs.
When I ordered my Baby jet, I expected that I would get it worst case Dec. 31st (low 500 order number). The wording was very clear. Obviously the sooner the better, but it was clear they hedging when they changed the wording to "anticpiated" ship date begining blah blah blah.
It was clear they were trying to hit the same window as Bitfury and KnC but would be late heck... they hadn't even taped out when they went on sale. I figured I would be getting 4 more hash modules 90-days later due to difficulty growth. So far everything looks to be going according to plan.
It was clear they were trying to hit the same window as Bitfury and KnC but would be late heck... they hadn't even taped out when they went on sale. I figured I would be getting 4 more hash modules 90-days later due to difficulty growth. So far everything looks to be going according to plan.
Number Two isn't an option until after Dec 31, the guaranteed delivery date, and only if HashFast then refuses to issue refunds.
The windows for shipping was October 20th-30th. They didn't add the December 31st date to their Terms of Sale until a week after they started taking preorders.
I and many people were lied to and have sufficient reason to complain. This is a U.S. company that is not above the law and must be held accountable for their wrong doing just like any other company that doesn't deliver.
It is not acceptable for a company to say everything is going to plan and then claim delays 2 days before they are supposed to start shipping.
It is not acceptable for a company to change their Terms of Sale and pretend like those revisions were made before the sales.
It is not acceptable for a company to be claimining to ship 3rd batch by December 15th so they can make new sales, while telling their 1st batch customers they'll get them sometime by December 31st.
It is not acceptable to promise frequent status updates and yet keep everyone in the dark.
To anyone looking into buying HF products: Don't do it.
Hashfast has fucked their customers. Plain and simple.
What is the guranteed delivery date for batch#2?
You won't get anything but legalese talk about how you agreed on the 31 Dec date, and that they are in line with that date.
I speak fluent legalese. It's my mother tongue.
This is plain English, not legalese:
Quote
https://hashfast.com/checkout/terms-of-sale/
3. DELIVERY AND QUANTITIES.
Guaranteed Baby Jet Delivery Dates – Batch 1.
All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast’s first production batch are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013.
3. DELIVERY AND QUANTITIES.
Guaranteed Baby Jet Delivery Dates – Batch 1.
All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast’s first production batch are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013.
^^^This is a very simple sentence, easily comprehensible to even the thickest plank in the slow reader class.^^^
There is a subject (All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast’s first production batch) and a predicate (are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013).
Nothing is ambiguous; no parsing is required.
How stupid must one be to believe that "All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast’s first production batch are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013" is legalese?
It's not even written in a tiny font. There is no excuse for such misrepresentation. It's pure, fact-free FUD.
So i am asking: Has anybody called them?
Many. You won't get anything but legalese talk about how you agreed on the 31 Dec date, and that they are in line with that date.If you tried to call before the delay to ask if they where on track, they would reply that everything was ok, blatantly lying.
So i am asking: Has anybody called them?
Many. You won't get anything but legalese talk about how you agreed on the 31 Dec date, and that they are in line with that date.If you tried to call before the delay to ask if they where on track, they would reply that everything was ok, blatantly lying.
OK, so that maybe translates to: Shipping at 31 Dec and MPP kicks in 1st April.
So i am asking: Has anybody called them?
Many. You won't get anything but legalese talk about how you agreed on the 31 Dec date, and that they are in line with that date.If you tried to call before the delay to ask if they where on track, they would reply that everything was ok, blatantly lying.
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