Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s - page 510. (Read 880461 times)

Have you seen any real PCB for the chips? Nobody saw. I think the case shouldn't concern you, but the lack of proof of any other equipments should.

Btw, i'm still waiting for the pics of the finished BJ cases promised a week ago,

and,

For the now promised shipping date, that no one wants to give me. Firsts days of november? We got a problem.

Exhausts on the side doesn't make any sense in any way you look at it. Datacenter racks are death easy: cold air on the front, warm on the back; there is no side intake or bs like that, there are other servers on the side.
Just flip the psu 180 degrees and you have a working design.

I can't believe i bought from you guys.

You're acting like that's somehow an asset.  It's not.

p.s.  5 posts eh?  How'd you get out of your cage?

@Cypherdoc:  Know anything about how the IceDrill contract is going?  If Hashfast chips are on schedule, and DeadTerra didn't fib, Hashfast already delivered their chips?

Lol, you <3 your BFL pre-order so much, you didn't want to break the losing streak & signed up for moar surprise butsecs.

They missed their Oct 17th chip delivery date. Since that's part of the critical path, that is going to affect further deadlines down the road.

And thats a reason to relax? Lol, the sheer fact not even the case design is final (or even makes any sense) on the first day they anticipated shipping could start, should be cause for alarm.

Deep breath, people.  Relax.  

Hashfast never finalized a case design and hasn't missed any dates yet.

There are strong indications are that they will hit their end of the month promise, or come very very close.  

Don't start beating the crap out of them before they've had a chance to deliver, it hurts your credibility if you need to seek compensation later, as you come across as being the kind of person that will bitch and moan no matter what happens.

Save the hysterics and vitriol for when they really deserve it.  But right now, we're still 10 days from the end of their projected shipping window.

And yes, I was a BFL customer, and yes, I am a batch one customer.

That's putting it mildly.  As a result of this design stupidity, it sounds to me like anyone who's already leased or built cabinet colocation for their Sierras has to:

1) Build some kind of duct into the side of the cabinets, to mate up firmly to the side of those cases and carry the exhaust heat to the back of the cabinet,

2) If not #1, then at least some apparatus to "block off" the space between the vertical rack rails and the side of the cabinet, and generally vacuum the entire space through a series of fans,

3) Forego most of the real estate on both sides of the vertical rack rails, which would normally be free and clear to tie down cables, and instead only run cabling subordinate to the construction of apparatus 1 or 2 above,

3a) In either scenario, blocking the front of the cabinet with blanking plates, will be key in most datacenter environments.  If the boxes sucked at the front and blew at the back, exclusively, then blanking plates would be less of an issue.

4) Ditch the cabinets entirely and switch to 2 or 4-post racks.  In leased colo space, this has tremendous implications, as the only way to properly and securely run equipment in those kinds of racks is in a caged space, which probably whacks out the economics of the whole thing.  Aside from that, what if a customer had already paid installation NRCs to a datacenter, thinking they'd need xx KW per cabinet, only to find out that Hashfast has pulled the rug out from underneath them with this re-design to 4U, and thus the quantity of power is halved and some of those already-paid monies are wasted.


Further, since there are apparently no engineering drawings of any of this stuff, as DeathForTaxes and others have called for, it's STILL subject to change.  For a company that holds themselves out as a group of experts, Hashfast seems to be acting like anything but.  It seems to me this could be easily resolved if Hashfast would simply sell what DeathForTaxes is calling "naked" boards.  No need to stop selling the all-in-one solutions, vis a vis the Sierras, but don't handcuff the customers who are trying to put food on their tables and yours.

More importantly, a far more costly delay than KnC, which is supposedly pumping out 400 units per day.
NOt that I think many KnC customers will break even, but I dont expect any current HF customer will have even the slightest chance of that. Every next delay will just add insult to injury.

Ok just to clarify something. KnC had chips available at the end of September when promissed. They also were just a few days (2-3) late for their first shipments. Of course some of the Day 2 customers occurred a longer delay, but overall they weren't late by a lot. HF already has a longer delay than KnC. Grats on that!

Sounds like utter bullshit to me.  But if you could make a case for requiring custom power supplies (all the commercially-available PSs have intake there), or voiding the PS warranty by disassembling it & flipping the fan, you go right ahead -- i'm waiting

PS:  Flipping the fan would also kill its efficiency -- similar to flipping the fan on a downdraft CPU cooler.

You've never seen the inside of a datacenter, have you?

No. Simon and I have talked specifically about this. Those are exhaust openings in the sides. In fact, one has to make provisions for this in their rack selection.

Looo!!  Cypher, have you opened a 'puter box open IRL?  Not only is that an intake, but reversing teh fan would only make things worse, with PS sucking in the hot exhaust.  If the intake on the side is blocked off by rack walls (it isn't, most racks don't block the sides), so would the exhaust  

The back is out of reach?

Those are psu exhaust openings on the side.

At least they conveniently put the on/off switch somewhere... out of reach.

*The "optimistic date" was not contested until it was blown.  Either Edwardo the CEO has lied to you, or you get confused when trying to distinguish "earliest" from "latest."
Either way, GTF under the bus!