Have you notice how corporations took over the internet ?

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Quote from: HeRetiK on September 07, 2021, 11:29:57 AM

That the Internet used to be far more decentralized can't be denied tho.

No one would deny that. There used to be a time when Google, Twitter and Facebook didn't had the monopoly in the internet. But things started to change in a big way after Google acquired YouTube in 2006. They had tons of cash, and this helped them to go on a shopping spree and purchase whatever they want. And once they attained the monopoly, these corporations started getting involved in politics. The best example is Twitter flagging, and then banning Trump during his presidential campaign. Google has also behaved in a very biased manner recently.

Well it is what it is , that was the reality ...
those corporate bastards has very angelic vision at the first time they came in but then become greedy to own and acquire everything around the internet.. the goals is always to have a power to influence... and once they have got achieved what they want , nobody can touch them like what the world did to facebook and google in freely stealing our privacy...

not even law can fight against this giant corporate.

Big corporations are getting greedy to do whatever they think will benefit them and this is very unhealthy. Even with abundant finances some
giant corporations can break the law even if they commit violations, this sounds pathetic. But we as ordinary people can't do anything, our freedom
on the internet is getting less and less, because of the monopoly by giant companies. In the end, instead of worrying about it, I'd better focus on
using the internet for something positive, at least it can provide benefits for me.

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That’s normal. Anything good will always be scooped up. It also shows the value of bitcoin.

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Quote from: GubiMixa1292 on September 24, 2021, 05:36:13 PM

I think that makes sense, my friend, because the internet is getting more sophisticated and Bitcoin was never meant for smaller people either. .

Internet can only help for fast or rapid awareness of a something and from another perception, internet is like an information career or processor which enable thousands of people to get ride of it, everyone knows that's internet is like an engine block of technology from perspective. So emphasising on bitcoin is never meant to small people, i would say it's wrong idealogy from my views, bitcoin is everyone who can afford a specific denomination they need, because it's not stipulated anywhere that without this particular amount you can't purchase btc.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on September 25, 2021, 02:54:31 PM

I wouldn't say anyone or any corporation "took over" the internet. I think the internet is just the tool of natural evolution of how we exchange information as a evolving species. So basically anyone and everyone "took over" the internet gradually over a period of time. Im sure at some point the internet will become redundant and nobody will even remember it anymore. But taking over? Not even China can take over their own internet. People will find ways to break free.

I do believe the characterization that some companies have taken over the Internet is correct, before those giants came to the picture people used chat rooms to talk to each other and there were many back then, eventually social media appeared and people went from using hundreds of chat rooms to only using a few centralized services like Facebook, and the same is true for Google and other websites, so I do really think that the Internet is way less free than what it was decades ago.

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Have you notice how corporations took over the internet ?

I am a web dev and designer from 2008 ...i remember the internet being more human / person to person even chatting was fun back in '00 ...now the internet ...it's like a giant platform to do propaganda / advertise / spam and for narcissists to showoff on social networks like insta and fbook ...in my opinion we need to do something to get the vibe and freedom back ... else small businesses will have 0 chance against corporations and people will be continue to be programmed in to thinking the internet should be like it is now.

Not good for the economy not good for people.

It's similar to bitcoin when the movement started ... it was fun ,now di.ks with suits (fund managers ) started to hoard it...sure it is 50k now ,but you can't use it for the reason it was created... to be a currency...

Even youtube lost it's charm with does ads...

I honestly agree, back before the price of the bitcoin started going into the ten thousands people view bitcoin as a currency and as a way to send and receive transactions without taking thing way to seriously without thinking about the future of the price, but now everyone and i mean everyone who is using bitcoin is using it to make profit and investing in it just because the price is highly volatile in hopes that they will become millionaires because of it, keeping the same idea in their head and forgetting the true purpose of it and how it is a change for the corrupt system that we live in.

Although seeing it from the point of view of market speculation it is not bad for BTC, of course corporations take advantage of everything that has to do with human trafficking, in fact there is a lot of publicity at all times on social networks, and I prefer that whether it be from BTC than from anything else.

Although everything is headed towards investment and trading, in 2017 when it was on its way to $ 10k those who had more control of the market were the usual whales, currently there are many corporations that have bought BTC, and having more Holders , everyone will point in your favor and that influences the publicity. It should also be noted that due to the adoption of BTC in some countries such as "El Salvador", many countries are studying how to adopt it so that they can also make a profit, now BTC is being highly sought for its speculative market value.

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I understand the nostalgic opinions but it is difficult to turn back time. From what OP says it's like a snowball that grows. What we can do is occupy those spaces and create our communities.
On the other hand, bitcoin could be taken as a means of payment by more people with the developments proposed by the lightning network.

I do not know if it is already available to send tip on twitter through the lightning network under the developer Jack Mallers founder of Strike. Because that's good news for bitcoin and opportunities for more people to join us.

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I wouldn't say anyone or any corporation "took over" the internet. I think the internet is just the tool of natural evolution of how we exchange information as a evolving species. So basically anyone and everyone "took over" the internet gradually over a period of time. Im sure at some point the internet will become redundant and nobody will even remember it anymore. But taking over? Not even China can take over their own internet. People will find ways to break free.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 21, 2021, 10:00:11 PM

Quote from: HeRetiK on September 07, 2021, 11:29:57 AM

That the Internet used to be far more decentralized can't be denied tho.

No one would deny that. There used to be a time when Google, Twitter and Facebook didn't had the monopoly in the internet. But things started to change in a big way after Google acquired YouTube in 2006. They had tons of cash, and this helped them to go on a shopping spree and purchase whatever they want. And once they attained the monopoly, these corporations started getting involved in politics. The best example is Twitter flagging, and then banning Trump during his presidential campaign. Google has also behaved in a very biased manner recently.

Well it is what it is , that was the reality ...
those corporate bastards has very angelic vision at the first time they came in but then become greedy to own and acquire everything around the internet.. the goals is always to have a power to influence... and once they have got achieved what they want , nobody can touch them like what the world did to facebook and google in freely stealing our privacy...

not even law can fight against this giant corporate.

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I think that makes sense, my friend, because the internet is getting more sophisticated and Bitcoin was never meant for smaller people either. Bitcoin is literally for everyone, so is the internet. The goal of the internet is that because the internet is a place for everyone there are really no boundaries here, the work of companies and advertisers everywhere is powerful and that is out of scope here. we also can not cast spells nor castrate because this is the right of everyone to use us including all companies, organizations or groups of gatherings.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 21, 2021, 10:00:11 PM

Quote from: HeRetiK on September 07, 2021, 11:29:57 AM

That the Internet used to be far more decentralized can't be denied tho.

No one would deny that. There used to be a time when Google, Twitter and Facebook didn't had the monopoly in the internet. But things started to change in a big way after Google acquired YouTube in 2006. They had tons of cash, and this helped them to go on a shopping spree and purchase whatever they want. And once they attained the monopoly, these corporations started getting involved in politics. The best example is Twitter flagging, and then banning Trump during his presidential campaign. Google has also behaved in a very biased manner recently.

It is impossible to deny at this point that those companies are monopolies and we have many laws that can deal with them and even force the owners to split apart the company in many others that are smaller, and we need to wonder why this doesn't happen? And the answer to that is very simple the governments do not want to do it, they love those companies because they receive all of that data and they can spy on their citizens almost every single hour of every single day, so both parties get what they want out of that deal while the population is the one that suffers.

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Quote from: HeRetiK on September 07, 2021, 11:29:57 AM

That the Internet used to be far more decentralized can't be denied tho.

No one would deny that. There used to be a time when Google, Twitter and Facebook didn't had the monopoly in the internet. But things started to change in a big way after Google acquired YouTube in 2006. They had tons of cash, and this helped them to go on a shopping spree and purchase whatever they want. And once they attained the monopoly, these corporations started getting involved in politics. The best example is Twitter flagging, and then banning Trump during his presidential campaign. Google has also behaved in a very biased manner recently.

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That shows that in deed, the future is internet because almost everyone now live with it. The days were we used to be lonely and depressed without having a partner but have changed already, I know quite people who will stay indoor in their home without coming outside if they have access to free Internet connection and good electricity.

I can still close and opens my eyes during days when bitcoin was trading below. $4k dollars, that was a big opportunity back then bough who knows it Wil be like this. Cry

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Quote from: dondonk on September 18, 2021, 02:18:54 PM

Not surprised , in the past only a few people could access the internet . so that the internet ecosystem remains peaceful and pleasant. now everyone understands and accesses the internet. Now the internet is almost more chaotic than the real world.

The "democratization" of communication was supposed to be a great thing for humanity, but giving everyone a voice just conditioned everyone to think that their opinion was the most important and that if things weren't happening the way they wanted then the government or the system or the world was broken. The internet created echo chambers that reinforced the notion that anyone who didn't agree with you was your enemy who had to be defeated.
In reality, the internet ushered in this era of extremism and vitriol we see in politics now, and it's not fixable. The internet and social media has ruined public discourse forever and turned everyone into intolerant trolls.

I agree, before the Internet people were exposed to all kinds of points of view and while they could find some people with similar thoughts there was enough diversity to force people to interact and consider the ideas of others, but now the Internet has created echo chambers in which if someone says something that you do not like then you can block them and never hear of them ever again, this means that many people only interact with other people that think like them and reinforce their thoughts, so even if that was not the intention at all the Internet has created a world in which anyone that does not think and has the same values as you is the enemy.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 06, 2021, 10:37:32 PM

That's the way things have gone, remember that Internet is for everyone to use so of course companies are going to use it so they can make more money, remember that where there's more people, you can be sure that these companies are also in that place too.

From my perspective, internet is like a way people get easier solution to problems, many companies used it for easier problem solver or for advertisement of product, so it's obvious today that internet is used only to make money but also security purposes and other contributions that elevate the development of mankind as well, so it's used for all ramifications of life.

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There is so much truth and what you have said, yes bad things were totally different than how it is now. Sometimes when I remember how I used to feel when I discovered Bitcoin in 2014 and how the community looked like then, I kind of like always wish that those years will come back and things will return to being as it was then. This time around things have really changed and some of them are just so weird, the Internet has become something else.

Social media are now very annoying, just like you said Instagram, Facebook, and even Twitter. Then Facebook used to be so fun and I can’t stay a day without going there, but now it's really annoying with the kind of posts and how people has really ruined it, plus adverts that are very annoying, now I hardly even go there any longer, I can even stay a whole month without even looking at it.

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Quote from: dondonk on September 18, 2021, 02:18:54 PM

Not surprised , in the past only a few people could access the internet . so that the internet ecosystem remains peaceful and pleasant. now everyone understands and accesses the internet. Now the internet is almost more chaotic than the real world.

The "democratization" of communication was supposed to be a great thing for humanity, but giving everyone a voice just conditioned everyone to think that their opinion was the most important and that if things weren't happening the way they wanted then the government or the system or the world was broken. The internet created echo chambers that reinforced the notion that anyone who didn't agree with you was your enemy who had to be defeated.
In reality, the internet ushered in this era of extremism and vitriol we see in politics now, and it's not fixable. The internet and social media has ruined public discourse forever and turned everyone into intolerant trolls.

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Quote from: dondonk on September 18, 2021, 02:18:54 PM

Now the internet is almost more chaotic than the real world.

The internet is not chaotic but progressive. It has accomodated series of opportunities for the people for information has broken the large number of community. The internet has been very helpful to the world not only corporation but also government. The government that tries to fight the internet also benefit from it because of its large coverage.

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Not surprised , in the past only a few people could access the internet . so that the internet ecosystem remains peaceful and pleasant. now everyone understands and accesses the internet. Now the internet is almost more chaotic than the real world.

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Quote from: AndySt on September 16, 2021, 08:11:51 PM

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Yes, advertisements are everywhere in Internet today especially at YouTube. You can hardly find film on line without built-in X-bet ad.
Moreover, I’ve read news that corporations want to launch ads even at the night sky: https://www.albawaba.com/business/spacex-create-billboard-shows-ads-sky-1442260 https://futurism.com/startrocket-giant-ads-night-sky-cubesats . So probably soon we won’t see stars in the night sky any more, only ads. Corporations took over the internet, over our everyday life (all these ads on shops, supermarkets, billboards, cars, etc) and even over the sky.
Sometimes even in mined BTC blocks were found hidden massages: https://decrypt.co/55642/the-5-best-secret-messages-hidden-on-the-bitcoin-blockchain . Once they probably will find ads there.

It's just that the Internet has broken into the daily life of every person from a little accessible and not understandable curiosity for everyone and has imperceptibly turned into the basis of the life of the absolute majority of people, entertainment and a place of work. It would be foolish to expect that this will escape the attention of business, and we ourselves know perfectly well that the most effective and most influential tool for doing business in modern conditions are corporations. Also, no business can do without advertising. We can only try to limit their influence so that their work is also for the benefit of the ordinary person and society, and not just for profit, but it will not be possible to simply do without them.

This, at the beginning the Internet was thought to be a fad, something that people would be interested for a time and then it would disappear, in fact if you take the time to look at articles from the early 90’s you will see that kind of attitude from people that thought themselves experts on the topic, and as such at that time the Internet was more free even if it took forever to download anything, but once most people began to use it then corporations found a new way to advertise themselves and that is what they have been doing ever since.

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It's no surprise, to be honest. I mean the internet is for everyone, and the internet has made our lives easier and more connected. No wonder companies are taking advantage of it.

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